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Ken Senpai
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Posted - 2009.04.24 23:26:00 -
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I just escaped with only 15% of my hull out of this damned mission.
I tried to run it in my raven, and its just impossible. I mean, I'm not a total noob and I also dont have all L5 in engeenering, but is it normal to have 2 jammers, 1 webifier, 1 WARP SCRAMBLER (!!!) and 6-7 BS shooting at just one raven ??
Another problem is that those raven enemies regenerate their shields so freakin fast, I barely manage to destroy them, even with the help of drones.
Is this mission really so hard or was it easier before, or my skills are just too low (I can post fitting and skills too if needed, for now I'll just say that I had about 70% resistance for damage, and also very good shield boosting - while the capacitor lasted).
It was just so hard to actually lock target and kill that tiny scrambler while 2 jammers are almost perma jamming my sensors.
thanx for all info about this.
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Tauranon
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.04.25 00:13:00 -
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Most recon 1's have an unlocked first gate, and flying straight to it, warping out, finishes the mission. If you hang around to let the pocket spawn up, then yes it can hurt.
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Shadow Reapers
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.04.25 00:15:00 -
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Ah, Recon 1/3, one of the greatest missions for presenting you with nice tasty ISK in quick succession.
You're unlucky in that you're running it against Guristas so the racial EWAR thing is about 7000% more problematic than any of the other races, but essentially what you need to do is kill the ships as quickly as possible to limit incoming DPS so that you don't get overwhelmed by the waves piling on.
Either that, or completely ignore the ships, fit and AB and rush to the gate, use light drones and whatever other weapons you can to take out any web/scram frigates and activate the warp gate when you get there 
Also, it has come to my attention that I'm really in need of a proper signature. |
Tagami Wasp
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Posted - 2009.04.25 00:32:00 -
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Try to get the Raven you fly to perma-run the Shield booster(s) and you should be fine. Hint: even if you don't tank 1200dps, not micromanaging the capacitor will give you time and the presence of mind to take out the scramblers first.
Ah, also, don't aggro the whole room.
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Shadow Reapers
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.04.25 00:37:00 -
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I'm fairly sure you can't avoid aggro in Recon 1/3.
I'll also maintain that tank alone won't save you, DPS is more important, maybe try torps, that'll let you kill the BS and BC's fairly quickly, so you'd only have to contend with the HACs for any length of time, and TBH you can leave them and just use the warp gate, they aren't worth the ammo for the time it takes to kill them
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Ken Senpai
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Posted - 2009.04.25 00:53:00 -
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no, you cant avoid aggro. and I think one man alone cant be so quick to clean one pocket before next arrives.
but, is it just in that particular mission that enemy ravens are regenerating shields so fast or is it common in L4 ?
it was really hard for me alone to kill those damn jammers, while losing targets every minute or so, and needing 20 sec to retarget.
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Fourty Niner
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Posted - 2009.04.25 01:27:00 -
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Lol
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Recon
Its doable in a shuttle
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Bloody Rabbit
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Posted - 2009.04.25 01:29:00 -
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Recon 1/3
Run it in a shuttle or golem to clean the BS spawns.
And yes you don't have to fight, you just need to get to the second pocket and then the mission is done.
Eve-Survival
I use a golem that is boosted from a BC that is running shield gang mod and shield mindlink implant.
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Funtclaps
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Posted - 2009.04.25 02:13:00 -
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Yeah, best ship for this costs less than 10K isk in most stations, and OP - read the mission instructions carefully, they are there for a reason.
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Shatner19
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Posted - 2009.04.25 02:56:00 -
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i agree with the consensus, just blitz the mission, the loot and salvage is worth the hassle. (other pirate recons are def. worth the effort)
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Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ken Senpai
Edited by: Ken Senpai on 24/04/2009 23:43:34
I just escaped with only 15% of my hull out of this damned mission.
I tried to run it in my raven, and its just impossible. I mean, I'm not a total noob and I also dont have all L5 in engineering, but is it normal to have 2 jammers, 1 webifier, 1 WARP SCRAMBLER (!!!) and 6-7 BS shooting at just one raven ??
Another problem is that those raven enemies regenerate their shields so freakin fast, I barely manage to destroy them, even with the help of drones.
Is this mission really so hard or was it easier before, or my skills are just too low (I can post fitting and skills too if needed, for now I'll just say that I had about 70% resistance for damage, and also very good shield boosting - while the capacitor lasted).
It was just so hard to actually lock target and kill that tiny scrambler while 2 jammers are almost perma jamming my sensors.
thanx for all info about this.
You just have really crappy engineering and missile skills is all. You shouldn't have any problems doing a full clear on theis mission in a Raven. I do it routinely in my Drake. Improve your skills, get better mods, and get a better ship fitting, and you'll be OK.
Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help. |
Ken Senpai
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:55:00 -
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perhaps they made it harder with new patches. you should try it now and then make comments like that.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2009.04.25 05:17:00 -
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No it is still same old mission (actually recon changed once than it was nerfed ) ,Problem is jamming at this mission if you are unlucky they can keep you jammed non-stop .I kill pithum nullifer/annihilitors first .
If you are having problem to kill pith usurpers train your missile skills , put a heavy cap booster (with 800 charges) to your ship if you want to stay and kill ships
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.04.25 05:20:00 -
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Train FoF missiles.
Use them.
Or just turn in the mission if your skills are so awful you can't kill everything...
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.04.25 06:15:00 -
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I go in with an ishtar and wait for everything to spawn then go afk, launch some vespa IIs and well it is great for the sec increase 
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.04.25 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Funtclaps
Yeah, best ship for this costs less than 10K isk in most stations, and OP - read the mission instructions carefully, they are there for a reason.
and turn down 7 or 8 of the best bounty battleships?!?!
you people are crazy.
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IVeige
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Posted - 2009.04.25 06:46:00 -
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i just park my nighwawawk , start the fireworks, love that mission. Well if your doing it in galente space ill come help. But for some reasons im not exactly very welcome in ammar and caldari systems 
Doesnt matter, i didnt like them anyway 
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.04.25 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ken Senpai
I had about 70% resistance for damage
Something wrong with your setup then. If you're fighting guristas, you'd be fitting at least 2 kinetic hardeners which puts your resist over 85% to the primary damage type...
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lol thx
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Posted - 2009.04.25 11:11:00 -
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lol troll this mission is stupidly easy
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Ken Senpai
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Posted - 2009.04.25 11:51:00 -
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AS I said, Im not so specialized in combat skills; my shield and missile skills are mostly L3 or so.
But even on L5, the damage on cruises wouldnt be big enough to kill those ravens fast enough, and there was too much of jamming after that, new waves arrive very quickly.
Its just not so easy for one man alone in a regular raven without maxed skills.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.25 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ken Senpai
Its just not so easy for one man alone in a regular raven without maxed skills.
So don't fight them. Just fly through and come back when you've skilled up to start farming the thing. It's designed the way it is for a reason.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.25 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Terminus Vindictus on 25/04/2009 13:50:34
Originally by: Ken Senpai
AS I said, Im not so specialized in combat skills; my shield and missile skills are mostly L3 or so.
But even on L5, the damage on cruises wouldnt be big enough to kill those ravens fast enough, and there was too much of jamming after that, new waves arrive very quickly.
Its just not so easy for one man alone in a regular raven without maxed skills.
No, seriously, it's YOU - your skills, your loadouts, your mods - you said so yourself. You don't need maxed-out skills to be able to do this in a Raven, just better skills and mods than what you currently have. And, no, it's not a more difficult mission since the patch (LOL!) - I still run it routinely in my active Drake and the rats still don't even dent my shielding.
If you don't already use EFT and Battleclinic, I'd strongly suggest doing so. In a Raven, you should be looking at roughly 500 rat-specific defense, and at least 500 DPS. If you can't achieve those two figures (you should be aiming for roughly 1000+ combined Defense+DPS in EFT for L4's), then consider going back to a passive Drake. It has tougher shielding for low-skilled pilots than a Raven, so you'll at least survive missions like Recon 1/3 until you get your skills higher on your Raven.
P.S. - why are your T2 drones not attacking those jamming cruisers?!?
Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help. |
Tal Kjelthorne
Kjelthorne Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.25 15:12:00 -
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EVE Survival Guide
It's all you need to know.
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I reserve the right to be wrong.
We the Unwilling
Led by the Unknowing... |
Katabrok First
Caldari
g guild
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.04.25 16:22:00 -
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I've done this mission before it was nerfed in a Rokh. Now I can do it easyly in a Kronos. It used to be harder then you see now.
Kata
Uma vez flamengo, sempre flamengo. |
Ken Senpai
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Posted - 2009.04.25 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
P.S. - why are your T2 drones not attacking those jamming cruisers?!?
I dont have so much money to buy anything T2 so I mostly use T1 alternatives. Perhaps that may be big problem too.
Anyway, I had all drones attacking them, but they couldnt do much. I guess I should specialize more :/
And spend more time in EFT :/
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Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.25 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ken Senpai
I dont have so much money to buy anything T2 so I mostly use T1 alternatives. Perhaps that may be big problem too.
...then you're definitely NOT ready to fly a Raven anywhere near L4 missions. No wonder you're getting killed running Recon 1/3. No T2 drones, no T2 of anything... Trust me you'll be MUCH better off sticking with a Drake in the short run until you improve your skills and get some cash. If you Drake can't run L4's either, go back to L3's until it can, and until you have enough cash to buy the stuff you really need.
You're proving the point that just because you can technically climb into a BS doesn't mean you should actually take it out of hangar to do anything useful with it. At least train for some decent Engineering skills so you can put on some T2 mods in your mids, get some T2 BCUs, and train your drones so you can equip T2s. You don't need T2 launchers until later, but definitely train your other launcher skills to at least 4.
Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help. |
Ken Senpai
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Posted - 2009.04.25 23:28:00 -
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ok, thanks very much for info and help. unfortunately, those damn jammers and scramblers killed my (uninsured) drake too.
Gonna have to buy another one and do some more L3 then. :/
or better yet, gonna mine until my skillz are more adequate for the tasks of L4.
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Lui Kai
Logistics Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.04.26 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ken Senpai
ok, thanks very much for info and help. unfortunately, those damn jammers and scramblers killed my (uninsured) drake too.
Gonna have to buy another one and do some more L3 then. :/
or better yet, gonna mine until my skillz are more adequate for the tasks of L4.
You're really missing what people are telling you. You don't have to kill or tank anything in this mission, if your skills can't handle it yet. Just grab a cheap, fast ship (frig with an afterburner, or even a shuttle) - and dash through the gates as quickly as possible.
When you're able to kill the spawns in this mission, by all means do - they're great bounties - but until you hit that point, you can still just blast through the gates in any fast ship without shooting a thing.
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Ken Senpai
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Posted - 2009.04.26 08:47:00 -
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its too late for that, I canceled that mission before creating this thread. Reward wasnt too good neway
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MIRAMIRA
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.26 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ken Senpai
its too late for that, I canceled that mission before creating this thread. Reward wasnt too good neway
damn bloody NOOB!!!!!!!!!! 
Really, older players love this mission. I just park my passive tank nighthawk in it and kill them all. With a nighthawk it is fairly easy. The key is, to kill the BS fast before all have spawned and put the drones on the frigates/cruisers. Guristas might be a little difficult, because of hte jamming. But a Raven has in opposite to other races good resists against kinetic damage. Take 2 t2 hardeners against it and admitted - you might need some skills for it ...
Also remember next time, you get the best isk per 20min, if you do missions with lots of BS NPCs - quick. That's why I am always happy, if I get the Recon misson. It is a piece of cake for me. 
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