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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.04.28 07:07:00 -
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OK, I haven't seen a Navy Mega in lowsec PvP in forever.. Seriously its been ages since I've seen any faction gear.. Over the weekend I saw 4 (and got my ass handed to me by 2 of them at the same time). Have Navy Megas suddenly dropped in price or something?! Is this the new FOTM? Does anyone have one they can loan me so I can have my revenge?
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Kaidem
Minmatar Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.28 07:21:00 -
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I saw a Navy Mega when travelling through losec yesterday when I was on my way to Amamake, he was alone . On my way back I saw a Legion T3 cruiser also alone in lowsec. I just think people have too much isk. .
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.04.28 07:25:00 -
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I think we need to start a register of people who have to much isk..
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Cyrdax
Incura
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Posted - 2009.04.28 08:04:00 -
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everyone flies navy megas, ever since the lp store patch. with slaves you can get them above 100k armor pretty easily, it's a no brainer to fly one if you can afford one
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Kale Kold
Caldari Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrdax everyone flies navy megas, ever since the lp store patch. with slaves you can get them above 100k armor pretty easily, it's a no brainer to fly one if you can afford one
EFT fit or STFU
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Cyrdax
Incura
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Posted - 2009.04.28 08:28:00 -
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5 plates, full slaves, 3 trimarks and armored warfare 5
no mindlink or gang links required, 105k hp
--- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that? |

Kale Kold
Caldari Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrdax 5 plates, full slaves, 3 trimarks and armored warfare 5
no mindlink or gang links required, 105k hp
105k hp? Effective HP or Armor HP?
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Cyrdax
Incura
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Posted - 2009.04.28 09:09:00 -
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armor hp, millions and jillions of ehp, i don't care, it's not an eft fit it's a darknesss fit
--- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that? |

Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2009.04.28 09:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vrabac on 28/04/2009 09:23:37 Navy BS went up in price recently, but not so long ago they were about 250-300 mil per piece, which is really not that much more than tier 3. In case of navy mega, you get a mega with extra low slot and more base HP - which is awesome. I'd fly navy mega if I could, this way I need to be happy with Fleet Pest. 
Edit: My EFT says that with 2 plates, 2 faction eanms, dc, trimarks, HG slaves and 10% gang armor bonus EHP is actually over 250k total. 
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Shariska
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Posted - 2009.04.28 11:01:00 -
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I think this gang needs to be up on the list of people with to much isk tbh
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Kaidem
Minmatar Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.28 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shariska I think this gang needs to be up on the list of people with to much isk tbh
A few bombs and that could have been pretty tragic I think. By tragic I mean lol worthy. .
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.04.28 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vrabac Edited by: Vrabac on 28/04/2009 09:23:37 Navy BS went up in price recently, but not so long ago they were about 250-300 mil per piece, which is really not that much more than tier 3. In case of navy mega, you get a mega with extra low slot and more base HP - which is awesome. I'd fly navy mega if I could, this way I need to be happy with Fleet Pest. 
Edit: My EFT says that with 2 plates, 2 faction eanms, dc, trimarks, HG slaves and 10% gang armor bonus EHP is actually over 250k total. 
Armor HP, not EHP. EHP is np with quite alot of ships..
But yah, the extra buffer and the low price on them makes it a no-brainer to use if you got semi-decent amount of isks. If you got a main/alt that lives anywhere but in lowsec it's not very hard to make isk.
It's a balance issue tho, as much as I'd love to see CCP nerf the incomes, it's alot of other aspects playing in. No player with half a brain would sell a navy ship that cheap for example; look at the cost in LP store. Basicly you're giving away your LP and hard work for nothing, unless you got a macro miner and go the BPC route.. *coughs* *coughs* *coughs* and perhaps macro-run lowsec courier missions which is pretty risk-free and a nice LP-hoarding method *coughs* *coughs* *coughs*.
Either case, that's not what this thread is about. We'll see prices of Navy ships this low until the farmers realise they're giving us players stuff for free. Whent hey do, they might actually cooperate to increase the price shedloads instead, but who knows.. they probably got their own competition in their own markets as well.  - This space for rent |

Versipellis
Caldari ETERNAL LUX
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Posted - 2009.04.28 11:17:00 -
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Quote: (and got my ass handed to me by 2 of them at the same time).
ROFLMAOBBQ!
Quote: Does anyone have one they can loan me so I can have my revenge?
i can assure you can't find someone that wants to give away, loan or even give you the keys just to get his mega washed ..
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Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2009.04.28 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth We'll see prices of Navy ships this low until the farmers realise they're giving us players stuff for free. Whent hey do, they might actually cooperate to increase the price shedloads instead, but who knows.. they probably got their own competition in their own markets as well. 
Pretty much the case. 
However as for low sec and income, it's not really like that. 
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RedSplat
RennTech
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Posted - 2009.04.28 12:05:00 -
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Stylish Carrier Gank
2 Nightmares, Vindy, lots of Navy Throns.
As to Why faction BS are suddenly coming out of the woodwork, that's all down to t2 prices- people are flying fewer T2 cruisers and all the isk is going to better use elsewhere. Secretly MirrorGod. Apparently
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.04.28 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shariska I think this gang needs to be up on the list of people with to much isk tbh
lol I love VETO.
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Seetesh
Caldari Hoshi's Mining and Logistics
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Posted - 2009.04.28 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Stylish Carrier Gank
2 Nightmares, Vindy, lots of Navy Throns.
As to Why faction BS are suddenly coming out of the woodwork, that's all down to t2 prices- people are flying fewer T2 cruisers and all the isk is going to better use elsewhere.
Loving the pimpage on the KM 
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vrabac However as for low sec and income, it's not really like that. 
For the average pilots. There's ways to make great isk in lowsec but the majority who lives there fulltime.. well it's the same in Empire/0.0. There's always few that makes alot more than others. Just that the lower income in high-/nullsec is better than the lower income in lowsec. That was my point.
I love Veto too. And got a crush on Verone, he makes my pants..  - This space for rent |

Katy Karkinoff
Minmatar Psycho Chicks
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Shariska I think this gang needs to be up on the list of people with to much isk tbh
I have never been so aroused by a screen shot before in my life. Except maybe the one with lana's corpse... But that's a different story.
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Karo Tsakkatoa
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Stylish Carrier Gank
2 Nightmares, Vindy, lots of Navy Throns.
As to Why faction BS are suddenly coming out of the woodwork, that's all down to t2 prices- people are flying fewer T2 cruisers and all the isk is going to better use elsewhere.
Seen it done better ____________________
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RedSplat
RennTech
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Karo Tsakkatoa
Originally by: RedSplat Stylish Carrier Gank
2 Nightmares, Vindy, lots of Navy Throns.
As to Why faction BS are suddenly coming out of the woodwork, that's all down to t2 prices- people are flying fewer T2 cruisers and all the isk is going to better use elsewhere.
Seen it done better
Go smartbomb a gate about it Secretly MirrorGod. Apparently
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:18:00 -
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There was a time when Navy Megas dropped to the 300 million ISK area. Maybe even lower. Not sure where they're at now. But we see them on scan around Verge Vendor reasonably frequently. I tried to filter out Navy Mega kills on our alliance board but I guess that feature doesn't exist. I know we've nabbed at least a couple though. Probably on par with the number of Navy Ravens or just about.
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:00:00 -
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Navy mega's are pretty common in pvp even with the price increase. I know a fair number of pirates who use them and anti-pies as well. It's a very cost effective ship to use in pvp if you know what you are doing. For better or worse I'm amarr spec'd and the navy apoc isn't nearly as appealing for pvp. 
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Mystafyre
Caldari Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.28 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Mystafyre on 28/04/2009 21:44:28
Originally by: Cyrdax 5 plates, full slaves, 3 trimarks and armored warfare 5
no mindlink or gang links required, 105k hp
actually its morelike 250k ehp with those...
[Megathron Navy Issue, Buffer Tanked with Slave Set] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Internal Force Field Array I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Faint Warp Disruptor I F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Prototype ECCM I Omni Sensor Cluster
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L [empty high slot]
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Garde II x5
Drop Gardes, burn pulse mwd, point, start shooting, cap lasts for 6 mins.
244k EHP
1110 DPS
65k armor...
49 sensor strength (can be switched to web)
190 scan res
That's with HG Slave set... Of course it goes over 300k ehp if you drop the dmg mods.. 
I had that with my old gallente main, and I had only LG Slaves in lowsec clone.. Everyone should try it out.. It's just madness.
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mystafyre 105k hp
actually its morelike 250k ehp
Look what you did wrong. It's already been pointed out several times, and several people made same mistake.. I'll spell it out once again (just cuz I'm a nice guy); 
eHP vs (armor) HP = not same thing - This space for rent |

Mystafyre
Caldari Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Mystafyre 105k hp
actually its morelike 250k ehp
Look what you did wrong. It's already been pointed out several times, and several people made same mistake.. I'll spell it out once again (just cuz I'm a nice guy); 
eHP vs (armor) HP = not same thing Real men fight even with the hull! 60% hull resistance! 
But really, youre right, but still, it's awesome.
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mystafyre But really, youre right, but still, it's awesome.
And we both fail quoted, I guess we need spanking. (I know I do)
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar OVERLOAD. Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:37:00 -
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Killed one in lowsec yesterday, dropped nice loot.
Didnt pay the ransom, killed pod.
The End.
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Cyrdax
Incura
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:40:00 -
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no one fits iffas on megas
and not once in my posts did i say ehp, not even once, until someone asked me (because they were confused about their gender or something) and i pointed out that i said armor hp
the eft is strong in this thread
--- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that? |

Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.04.29 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrdax no one fits iffas on megas
and not once in my posts did i say ehp, not even once, until someone asked me (because they were confused about their gender or something) and i pointed out that i said armor hp
the eft is strong in this thread
EFT needs a new feature.. It needs to detect when you are about to fit a fail fit and remind you to test it on sisi first.
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