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Thalene
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Posted - 2009.04.29 02:48:00 -
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Why?: There is no true armor tanking missile battleship currently so it wouldn't be overshadowing anything else and it would bring something unique to the table. And... Khanid ships are gorgeous.
Something like this:
8/5/7 Bonuses - 5% siege launcher RoF and 10% armor hp per level of Amarr battleship
Is this prioritary? Of course not. But it would be a nice thing to have at some point down the road. :)
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.04.29 02:52:00 -
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If they ever implement a third T2 battleship, I assume it'll be Khanid, since Carthum and Viziam have theirs already. That said, don't expect it at T1 - missiles as primary weapons in ships other than half the Caldari and a third of the Minmatar is a thing of T2 ships, not T1.
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Thalene
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Posted - 2009.04.29 02:55:00 -
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Or it could be introduced as a new faction battleship. I remember Greyscale talking about adding the Khanid arbitrator as faction cruiser (this was a while ago) but that never happened.
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Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.04.29 03:48:00 -
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Oh yes.... sweet idea. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
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Lelouch DeGilead
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.04.29 04:44:00 -
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I would LOVE to see a T2 Abaddon. We already have T2 'Geddon and a T2 Apoc. Why not a T2 Abaddon?
What would we call the T2 Abaddon if it ever comes out though?
/signed.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.04.29 11:59:00 -
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Khanid ships rock. I don't fly battleships but I totally support this. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Tesseract d'Urberville
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.04.29 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Khanid ships rock.
Very ditto. I'd love to see this, but admittedly it's pretty low-priority. --------------------------------- Thomas Hardy is going to eat your brains. |
TimMc
Brutal Deliverance Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.04.29 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: TimMc on 29/04/2009 17:23:32 Would have to be a faction ship or a teir 4 bs. Never going to get CCP to give a t2 khanid bs.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.04.29 18:08:00 -
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+1
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Elliott Manchild
omen. Gay4Life
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Posted - 2009.04.29 18:58:00 -
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hi
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.05.01 12:14:00 -
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I really like the idea of a truly passive armor faction torp boat.
8-5-7 seems pretty overkill in my opinion.
Essentially make it like an overtanked abaddon with less dps. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
Efrim Black
Gallente Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.05.01 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Thalene Why?: There is no true armor tanking missile battleship currently so it wouldn't be overshadowing anything else and it would bring something unique to the table. And... Khanid ships are gorgeous.
Something like this:
8/5/7 Bonuses - 5% siege launcher RoF and 10% armor hp per level of Amarr battleship
Is this prioritary? Of course not. But it would be a nice thing to have at some point down the road. :)
Would this do? http://itemdb.eve-benelux.be/index.php?id=22426
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.05.01 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards I really like the idea of a truly passive armor faction torp boat.
8-5-7 seems pretty overkill in my opinion.
Essentially make it like an overtanked abaddon with less dps.
maybe a raven like slot layout would do. with swapped low/mid slots
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.01 15:16:00 -
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As long as I get my Sansha Mothership.
But yes personally I would like to see a Gallente/Amarr Hybrid ship line up or a special Khanid fleet lineup in conjunction with other sub factions gettgin thier own expensive but different line of faction ships. ---
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Deldrac
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.02 11:25:00 -
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Supporting a 'moar proper ships' thread.
None of this t3/faction bull****. Moar proper ships kthx.
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Meeogi
Lone Star Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.02 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Meeogi on 02/05/2009 12:02:39 Hell's yes,... I take my ships like I take my Coffee and my Minmatar!!
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Another Forum'Alt
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.05.02 14:59:00 -
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If you mean as a faction BS, only if there are Thukker and Intaki ones (not sure what one caldari could have as an equivalent. Achura maybe?)
Unless ofc, it is a T2 bs, then definitely, just make the khanid one the amarr one. BECAUSE OF FALCON. Guide to forum posting |
Incantare
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Posted - 2009.05.03 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone As long as I get my Sansha Mothership.
But yes personally I would like to see a Gallente/Amarr Hybrid ship line up or a special Khanid fleet lineup in conjunction with other sub factions gettgin thier own expensive but different line of faction ships.
There's also Caldari/Minmatar missing as a faction. I wonder if they'll ever implement them along with Gallente/Amarr. They'd have to get their own space like the other pirate factions.
Some Mordus ships would be cool too.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.03 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Thalene Why?: There is no true armor tanking missile battleship currently so it wouldn't be overshadowing anything else and it would bring something unique to the table. And... Khanid ships are gorgeous.
Something like this:
8/5/7 Bonuses - 5% siege launcher RoF and 10% armor hp per level of Amarr battleship
Is this prioritary? Of course not. But it would be a nice thing to have at some point down the road. :)
Might be just a teeeeeny bit OP as you describe it, but yeah, missile using armour BS plx.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.03 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Incantare
Originally by: Heartstone As long as I get my Sansha Mothership.
But yes personally I would like to see a Gallente/Amarr Hybrid ship line up or a special Khanid fleet lineup in conjunction with other sub factions gettgin thier own expensive but different line of faction ships.
There's also Caldari/Minmatar missing as a faction. I wonder if they'll ever implement them along with Gallente/Amarr. They'd have to get their own space like the other pirate factions.
Some Mordus ships would be cool too.
EoM ships please!
We need more NPC 0.0 space anyway.
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Ausser
Cybertech Industrials Agency
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Posted - 2009.05.03 19:36:00 -
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Nice, supported.
Originally by: Malcanis EoM ships please!
They look cool. The models are ingame, maybe some day we get these shiny black amarr hulls.
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Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.05.04 04:29:00 -
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I don't really understand what you're proposing here tbh.
Are you asking there to be a Khanid faction battleship? Therefore becoming the 6th "race" of faction battleships, alongside the ones that are currently in the game (Machariel, Rattlesnake, Nightmare, Vindicator and Bhaalgorn.
Or are you asking for there to be another t2 battleship in the game, but "built" by Khanid Innovations? Just like in the ship descriptions of many t2 ships, they state which corporation (developer) built the ship - for example the Curse and Vengeance are Khanid ships.
If you are asking for the former, then your proposal should state the need to add a Khanid cruiser and frigate as well. I think that would be a nice idea, as i've noticed Khanid appear to be the 6th pirate faction, but not really, heh. It would also be good to see some more original hulls and shiptypes for the faction ship users, as well as seeing what bonuses or role they could fill.
If you're suggesting the want or need for another t2 battleship, then again, you need to think about the other races. Firstly what role would this t2 battleship fill? Is it neccessary? How would it affect the dynamics of PvP and PvE?
It sounds to me like you would just like to see a cool looking black amarr battleship, which isn't a good enough reason to introduce a new ship class.
The armour tanking missile boat would be decent, but how is it much different from the numerous shield tanking missile ships, aside from variety?
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Shadow Devourer
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Posted - 2009.05.04 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Thresh Avery
The armour tanking missile boat would be decent, but how is it much different from the numerous shield tanking missile ships, aside from variety?
Look at the nightmare and the amarr battleships, they function very differently.
+1 for more faction ships.
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eliminator2
Annihilate. Shock Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.04 12:05:00 -
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i like idea but there wil only bring this if they can bring a new t2/faction bs for all races not just amarr/caldari
but othernews i support as it may make em do the other faction
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Jaffnar Borg
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Posted - 2009.05.04 13:20:00 -
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Khanid Faction Geddon with Torp and maybe also Cruise RoF bonus please.
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Lyra Keiko
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.04 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Thresh Avery I don't really understand what you're proposing here tbh.
Are you asking there to be a Khanid faction battleship? Therefore becoming the 6th "race" of faction battleships, alongside the ones that are currently in the game (Machariel, Rattlesnake, Nightmare, Vindicator and Bhaalgorn.
Or are you asking for there to be another t2 battleship in the game, but "built" by Khanid Innovations? Just like in the ship descriptions of many t2 ships, they state which corporation (developer) built the ship - for example the Curse and Vengeance are Khanid ships.
If you are asking for the former, then your proposal should state the need to add a Khanid cruiser and frigate as well. I think that would be a nice idea, as i've noticed Khanid appear to be the 6th pirate faction, but not really, heh. It would also be good to see some more original hulls and shiptypes for the faction ship users, as well as seeing what bonuses or role they could fill.
If you're suggesting the want or need for another t2 battleship, then again, you need to think about the other races. Firstly what role would this t2 battleship fill? Is it neccessary? How would it affect the dynamics of PvP and PvE?
It sounds to me like you would just like to see a cool looking black amarr battleship, which isn't a good enough reason to introduce a new ship class.
The armour tanking missile boat would be decent, but how is it much different from the numerous shield tanking missile ships, aside from variety?
This.
None of you are considering the bigger picture.....What would the caldari, minmatar, gallente get?
This isnt an eve ship wishlist.....Thalane you need to expand on the topic
Thumbs down from me, sorry.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.05.04 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lyra Keiko
None of you are considering the bigger picture.....What would the caldari, minmatar, gallente get?
Booo hoooo... it wouldn't be FAAIIR!
Does Ford check in with Honda to make sure Honda has a new model comming out at the same time as Ford's next model? Ship makers should be in competition. Nowhere is it written that everyone has to get cookies at the same time.
(note: I don't actually care very much if this proposal ever happens as I just don't like the "if I can't have a cookie nobody can have a cookie" positions) ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Jaffnar Borg
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Posted - 2009.05.04 17:16:00 -
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It's already unbalanced because of Sansha ships, so who cares? But I wouldn't mind a Faction Drone Battleship for Gallentes. :)
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.04 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jaffnar Borg It's already unbalanced because of Sansha ships, so who cares? But I wouldn't mind a Faction Drone Battleship for Gallentes. :)
Infested tentacle-domi plx!
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Lyra Keiko
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.04 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri
Originally by: Lyra Keiko
None of you are considering the bigger picture.....What would the caldari, minmatar, gallente get?
Booo hoooo... it wouldn't be FAAIIR!
Does Ford check in with Honda to make sure Honda has a new model comming out at the same time as Ford's next model? Ship makers should be in competition. Nowhere is it written that everyone has to get cookies at the same time.
(note: I don't actually care very much if this proposal ever happens as I just don't like the "if I can't have a cookie nobody can have a cookie" positions)
My point here is that if you're going to ask for a new tech 2 bs, you cant say "CCP we'd like a new tech 2 amarr battleship pls because i like black ships but dont bother making ones for the caldari, gallente or minmatar, because i dont care about them".....You have to give thought to balance issues and follow the trend the game currently takes. And im not saying that Thalane has this attitude but she obviously hasnt thought her proposal through.
At the moment for every tech 2 ship that comes out every race has one and they are balanced somewhat fairly.....Please state an example of when a tech 2 ship has been released and there has been no counterpart for the other races? Struggling? That's because there isnt such a case.....So i am not saying "if I can't have a cookie nobody can have a cookie" like you seem to think.
Also your statement about ship makers being in competition is invalid.....In this game, ship makers are limited to what CCP allow them to make. There is no scope for us to build something unique therefore it does not follow the RL example you have given.....That "competition" for ship makers comes at the market where there are price wars.
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