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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.08 05:13:00 -
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why can't people without arms play this game
i demand voice recognition
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
771
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Posted - 2012.05.08 05:15:00 -
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EVE Does Nothing to Protect My Sanity From masternerdguy Forum Posts |
Josef Djugashvilis
152
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Posted - 2012.05.08 06:46:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:TRIATHALONS DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE SUFFERERS OF LOCKED IN SYNDROME!
RABBLERABBLERABBLE I was not aware that many in the prison population wanted to take part in triathlons. Stroke victims actuallyalso
MY poor jokes are just wasted....
You want fries with that? |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
184
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Posted - 2012.05.08 06:53:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:EVE is 9 years old. It is a mature project that is late in the life cycle, so it is surprising that no accessibility features have been added.
While UI scaling has helped a bit, there are still no options to play EVE in a minimalistic, text oriented, mode. This mode already exists, it is called the thin client and is used by CCP to mass test without wasting computing time on rendering. With some adjustments the thin client could be made compatible with devices such as Braille displays and text to speech systems.
CCP has written EVE in such a way that is is completely incompatible with Braille displays. EVE lacks any sort of color blind mode and has no high contrast mode. Finally, EVE is moving away from text and towards lots of icons which make it even more difficult for visually impaired people to play.
Instead of fixing these problems CCP has been adding additional graphical updates such as the new missile effects, as if they do not consider accessibility to be a priority. This begs a very simple question: CCP, why u no like blind people?
J
Discuss.
well I guess you should have left it - alone.
EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.05.08 09:26:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote: This begs a very simple question: CCP, why u no like bots?
ftfy.
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Blade M Howser
0........0
-Silicon Heaven-
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Posted - 2012.05.09 15:55:00 -
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jason hill wrote:i wear hearing aids in both ears .... wait ....eve has sound ? ! .... my corpies despair that i never get on T/S .... or any other voice comms .... can i have special treatment ...no i dont think so .... what makes you so special ?.
im certain that sound is not needed to play eve i play daily without sound turned on
hearing problems are not as bad as having vision problems..
try this blind fold yourself and try pissing in toilet without missing and hitting the floor or wall.. ill do same with my ears and see if i still have perfect aim
eve devs could give visually impaired players option to change text color and message background color
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evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2012.05.09 16:05:00 -
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in an agent smith voice
We would you play eve..if...you ..cannot see...
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Blade M Howser
0........0
-Silicon Heaven-
2
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Posted - 2012.05.09 16:15:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:in an agent smith voice
We would you play eve..if...you ..cannot see...
no one said we were blind only that some of us are color blind, or loss of vision and have difficulty reading text adding option to change text and background color could be done with a few small lines of code in a small patch that we get several times per week
game play i can see and shoot rats or any ship its the text that we have trouble reading |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
121
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Posted - 2012.05.09 16:34:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:CCP needs to add color to EVE for the color blind.
I am colour blind (Like literally 8% of males) and I can play eve fine.
If it was genuinely a problem, it would be brought up by more people than just forum trolls. |
FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc.
189
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Posted - 2012.05.09 16:39:00 -
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Theres a reason they call them video games. It isn't because they can be played in a minimalistic, text oriented, mode. Also I don't think the thin client works the way OP thinks it does.
I personally have to deal with a decreased ability to see color. While I have a lot of praise for game devs who go out of their way to accomodate for this I also think it is unfair to demand this of them. It costs money for them to add things in like this. If its such a big deal unsub and give them your reasons as to why. Money talks louder than the daily rant on the forums.
Saying all that is pointless though because OP is a known troll. Maybe he should spend his time whining to the devs of BF3 in order to make their game compatible with Braille displays and slander them as not liking blind people as well. Lifes not fair. We can't always do everything we want to in life. |
Van Rivor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.09 16:59:00 -
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EVE Does Nothing to Assist the Poor or Employment Impaired
I should be able to play for free. |
MortisLegati
Caldari War Materiel
2
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Posted - 2012.05.09 20:49:00 -
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Van Rivor wrote:EVE Does Nothing to Assist the Poor or Employment Impaired
I should be able to play for free.
/thread |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
306
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Posted - 2012.05.09 20:54:00 -
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Van Rivor wrote:EVE Does Nothing to Assist the Poor or Employment Impaired
I should be able to play for free.
You can. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
947
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Posted - 2012.05.09 20:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:why can't people without arms play this game
i demand voice recognition
They can. They can go to the forums and roll their face on your keyboard. They'll fit right in with everyone else.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
134
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:09:00 -
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Blade M Howser wrote:evereplicant wrote:in an agent smith voice
We would you play eve..if...you ..cannot see...
no one said we were blind
Sir, I direct your attention to the thread title
There should be a rather awesome pic here |
AureoBroker
Natural Inventions
38
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:31:00 -
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2/10
would not read again |
Citizen Smif
DarK IntenTionZ
Stop Exploding You Cowards
94
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:45:00 -
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Your trolling is rather.. impressive. |
Alan Tissant
Exiter Corp
JINN.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:38:00 -
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As the Vice-President of the local chapter of the National Federation of the Blind and someone that is legally blind, I don't know whither to be more offended that someone would use my disability to simply stir up a random bit of anarchy, or to applaud your attempt (though it be ridiculous and borderline usable as grounds for committing you indefinitely for the safety of those around you) at trying to get a large corporation to find alternatives for the visually impaired.
In many ways, being limited as I am, Eve is one of the few games that I can play without much in the way of an issue. The graphics meet the rather considerable requirements that my vision does require, and the audio channels have been nice as well.
Here is the thing though:
If you cannot see, then you can't play. Common sense. Something that you seem to be lacking.
If you really are as insensitive, and narrow-minded enough to use one of the most prevelent disabilities in the world in an offhanded attempt to be a bigger forum troll than someone else, then I pity you.In the way that I pity a kitten with a broken limb, or a deer with a bullet through it's spine.
I pity you because you are far more damaged than I am.
I will be following this posting up with an email to the CCP CSGM department . Perhaps I can make a suggestion to them that will make sense to them regarding a forum troll that creats potential liability for them. |
Velator Lover
Velator 4TW
0
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:22:00 -
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Blind people can play Eve if they hire homeless people to tell them what is happening on the screen and where to put there hands. I do this sometimes when I need to rest my eyes. |
Shaampoo
Epidemic.
F0RCEFUL ENTRY
19
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:48:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Dear CCP;
I demand you make silly, pointless, and useless changes to the way you write your game, even if such changes are hideously impractical, ruinously expensive, and /or impossible.
In fact, the less plausible the possible change, the more I demand you make it.
Fail in this, and I shall waggle my finger at you and ***** impotently.
(s)
Thank you,
Whinging Loser. As a blind person upon reading this i could barely believe my eyes. What was this before me. Such a insult i had to recall in horror. I was unable to even look at the screen for few minutes. After crying the corner for a bit i look up to see my deaf wife standing over me. " I can hear your sobs from the kitchen" she exclaimed " What has offend so much that you fill my ears with your sobbing". I look at the computer screen and said
" I can hardly believe it but this man is typing insults on the internet"
She was taken back.
She looked like she was about to cry. I Quickly sighted her Favorited stuffed animal. and then I realised I was blind and could not see anything. |
Velator Lover
Velator 4TW
0
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:55:00 -
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Shaampoo wrote:silens vesica wrote:Dear CCP;
I demand you make silly, pointless, and useless changes to the way you write your game, even if such changes are hideously impractical, ruinously expensive, and /or impossible.
In fact, the less plausible the possible change, the more I demand you make it.
Fail in this, and I shall waggle my finger at you and ***** impotently.
(s)
Thank you,
Whinging Loser. As a blind person upon reading this i could barely believe my eyes. What was this before me. Such a insult i had to recall in horror. I was unable to even look at the screen for few minutes. After crying the corner for a bit i look up to see my deaf wife standing over me. " I can hear your sobs from the kitchen" she exclaimed " What has offend so much that you fill my ears with your sobbing". I look at the computer screen and said " I can hardly believe it but this man is typing insults on the internet" She was taken back. She looked like she was about to cry. I Quickly sighted her Favorited stuffed animal. and then I realised I was blind and could not see anything.
 On behalf of "seeing" people everywhere, I apologize for silens vesica. The commments were insensitive. No one should have to log on to the internet and read insults. |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures
Surely You're Joking
186
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:57:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:EVE is 9 years old. It is a mature project that is late in the life cycle, so it is surprising that no accessibility features have been added.
While UI scaling has helped a bit, there are still no options to play EVE in a minimalistic, text oriented, mode. This mode already exists, it is called the thin client and is used by CCP to mass test without wasting computing time on rendering. With some adjustments the thin client could be made compatible with devices such as Braille displays and text to speech systems.
CCP has written EVE in such a way that is is completely incompatible with Braille displays. EVE lacks any sort of color blind mode and has no high contrast mode. Finally, EVE is moving away from text and towards lots of icons which make it even more difficult for visually impaired people to play.
Instead of fixing these problems CCP has been adding additional graphical updates such as the new missile effects, as if they do not consider accessibility to be a priority. This begs a very simple question: CCP, why u no like blind people?
Discuss.
considering legally blind people amke up less than 1% of the gamer market, and even then, i doubt more then a handful have even CONSIDERED trying eve, i can udnerstadn how its low on their priority list trying to add braile to eve over 12 months of developmetn time.
you think incarna was bad? imagine the rage whent heys pend 1-2 years developing an expansion just to unveil its only feature is allowing blind people to play. |
Gonada
Dark Club
3
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Posted - 2012.05.10 04:26:00 -
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Designing a visually challenging game to be accessible by the visually impaired is akin to designing a challenging game for the mentally challenged.
Hmm WoW, guess that has been done after all. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
60
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Posted - 2012.05.10 05:24:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:silens vesica wrote:Dear CCP;
I demand you make silly, pointless, and useless changes to the way you write your game, even if such changes are hideously impractical, ruinously expensive, and /or impossible.
In fact, the less plausible the possible change, the more I demand you make it.
Fail in this, and I shall waggle my finger at you and ***** impotently.
(s)
Thank you,
Whinging Loser. Not only a strawman, but your sarcasm belittles the plight of the blind. If I were a GM I'd ban you from the forums for insensitivity! Trolling the blind?!?
Wow. If cluelessness were an olympic event, you'd take the Bronze, Silver, and Gold in one sweep.
It's folks like you that force me to think like a Goon.
Or have I just been 'whooshed' by epically subtle sarcasm?
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae
ROMANIAN-LEGION
170
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Posted - 2012.05.10 05:27:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I actually mused on this the other day. What games could I play if I found myself blind?
It's a short list, and Eve ain't on it.
Hmm... minesweeper and anything by EA? |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
60
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Posted - 2012.05.10 05:38:00 -
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Velator Lover wrote:Shaampoo wrote:silens vesica wrote:Dear CCP;
I demand you make silly, pointless, and useless changes to the way you write your game, even if such changes are hideously impractical, ruinously expensive, and /or impossible.
In fact, the less plausible the possible change, the more I demand you make it.
Fail in this, and I shall waggle my finger at you and ***** impotently.
(s)
Thank you,
Whinging Loser. As a blind person upon reading this i could barely believe my eyes. What was this before me. Such a insult i had to recall in horror. I was unable to even look at the screen for few minutes. After crying the corner for a bit i look up to see my deaf wife standing over me. " I can hear your sobs from the kitchen" she exclaimed " What has offend so much that you fill my ears with your sobbing". I look at the computer screen and said " I can hardly believe it but this man is typing insults on the internet" She was taken back. She looked like she was about to cry. I Quickly sighted her Favorited stuffed animal. and then I realised I was blind and could not see anything. On behalf of "seeing" people everywhere, I apologize for silens vesica. The commments were insensitive. No one should have to log on to the internet and read insults.
Of course not. 4Chan does not melt your mind. SA is the fevered imagination of a demented mind. And no one would EVER troll a forum by demanding hideously impractical design changes to a game from a company hard-pressed to keep up with its main revenue stream. Nor would anyone *ever* mock such trolling as mercilessly as it deserves.
Nope. It's all sweetness and bunnies here in the interwebs.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
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