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testickleme	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:31:00 - [1] how do i go to jove space? i cant seem to find a route to any of the stations with agents
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:32:00 - [2] The jove blew up all of the stargates to their space decades ago.
hackzor nstuff	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:38:00 - [3] so then there is no way to enter there space at all? and if that is so why keep it on the map its taking up space that could be better used for game development
steveid Killed In Action The Firm.	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:42:00 - [4] because the idea is it is brought into the game some time in the future. It probably never will since jove ships are ****ing uber, it would imbalance the game too much. More likely would be some jove related events run by CCP in the old manner that they used to run concord.
Nadiim Zilch	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:45:00 - [5] If you'll notice, there is some use of those unconnected systems. do a search for the "Polaris" system for example.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:49:00 - [6] You might also notice that CCP actually seems to give a damn about backstory, and put a lot of effort into things which seem to have no significant impact on gameplay. Like regions of space where the average player will never, ever go. Why is it there? Because the background says it is. Posts by Ruze Ahkor'Murkon and Ruze
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:51:00 - [7] Jove empire is Dev space. It's their playground.
Doctor Penguin Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.04.29 22:00:00 - [8] The Providence Block say they're the only truly neutral power block. But then there is CCP Engineering Alliance. ________________________________________________ http://eve.drome.nl/CaodCleaner/ Help make CAOD readable.
Hesperius	Posted - 2009.04.29 22:34:00 - [9] From someone who has done research. There are currently no known routes into Jove space. There are two sections of Jove space, as well as two isolated systems. One of the isolated systems is where the alliance tournament took place, the other is for developer showboating or something. One of the major sections of Jove that is isolated from the other is for the quality assurance team to test and check for bugs. Finally, there is one section of Jove space, which remains 100% isolated. This is the space that should interest you. The fact is there is no KNOWN way into that Jove space. That is not to say that there is not a way in, it simply may not have been discovered by anyone. Prior to wormholes everyone thought that the only way around space was through jump gates. For all we know some day someone might strike that lucky 1/100,000,000,000,000 chance of an exploration site that will grant them temporary access to Jove. The history of exploration for Jove: At one point in the history of Eve, people were able to set their clones to stations that they had never been to. Some people set their clones to stations in Jove space. CCP put an end to this. There was also the ability through scanning to hard navigate you way across systems, I believe by scanning for cosmic anomalies. There was a pair of individuals who made it to Jove space, but since the game is bound by programming, they faced the hard realities of there being no session change and there was nothing there. CCP then made anomalies spawn within 4 au of planets so this would not happen again. Keep your eyes peeled for clues because you never know what could actually be in the game that you are unaware of.
Soi Mala	Posted - 2009.04.29 23:28:00 - [10] Originally by: hackzor nstuff so then there is no way to enter there space at all? and if that is so why keep it on the map its taking up space that could be better used for game development It is used for game developement... it is owned by TANIS. alliance (CCP). I guess its where they test sov mechanics among other bits and bobs.

Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.29 23:29:00 - [11] Originally by: Hesperius For all we know some day someone might strike that lucky 1/100,000,000,000,000 chance of an exploration site that will grant them temporary access to Jove. I honestly dont think CCp is that clever. I wish they were though.

CCP Dropbear	Posted - 2009.04.29 23:38:00 - [12] Edited by: CCP Dropbear on 29/04/2009 23:44:42 Originally by: Hesperius At one point in the history of Eve, people were able to set their clones to stations that they had never been to. Some people set their clones to stations in Jove space. CCP put an end to this. It was more cunning, actually, as befits the EVE playerbase. People would get themselves stuck, file petitions, and then ask to be moved to "the system they were just in, I think it was called <name>" which was, of course, a Jovian system they'd never laid eyes upon before. Quote: There was also the ability through scanning to hard navigate you way across systems, I believe by scanning for cosmic anomalies. There was a pair of individuals who made it to Jove space, but since the game is bound by programming, they faced the hard realities of there being no session change and there was nothing there. Again, sort of right. They didn't use scanning to get their bearings, the map itself shows you where you are going with the "you are here" dot. What they did, was simply travel very, very, very far in one direction towards Jove space from inside the known system closest to it. Technically, as you say, they never left the system. Without a stargate activation, there was never any session change. On the map however, the "you are here" circle was placed over a Jovian system, since the map cursor was just tracking the distance traveled inside the system and then calculating where that would be according to the scale of the map. Really (and sadly), it was just a graphical map bug. This was made possible because, back then, you could fit more than one MWD, and could quite easily cover the vast distances that were needed to get the map to look like it did. I believe the 4au range on planets was an unrelated thing, but I could be wrong. I often am. Originally by: Neo Omni Originally by: Hesperius For all we know some day someone might strike that lucky 1/100,000,000,000,000 chance of an exploration site that will grant them temporary access to Jove. I honestly dont think CCp is that clever. I wish they were though. To be honest, if we were to develop Jove space, a project that would need a lot of resources to do it justice, it would be a "questionable" move to limit to it to that sort of degree. It would make an equally insanely awesome story, of course, but there would be uproar, no doubt about it.

Hesperius	Posted - 2009.04.29 23:43:00 - [13] Thank you for giving some better information on the subject CCP Dropbear. Very interesting.
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.29 23:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Hesperius Thank you for giving some better information on the subject CCP Dropbear. Very interesting. +2 Seriously, Thank you. I wish Devs would interact more with us.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.29 23:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Neo Omni Originally by: Hesperius Thank you for giving some better information on the subject CCP Dropbear. Very interesting. +2 Seriously, Thank you. I wish Devs would interact more with us. I'm kinda glad they don't. We don't need more lazy bums surfin' the forums all day Posts by Ruze Ahkor'Murkon and Ruze
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.04.29 23:54:00 - [16] Originally by: CCP Dropbear Quote: There was also the ability through scanning to hard navigate you way across systems, I believe by scanning for cosmic anomalies. There was a pair of individuals who made it to Jove space, but since the game is bound by programming, they faced the hard realities of there being no session change and there was nothing there. Again, sort of right. They didn't use scanning to get their bearings, the map itself shows you where you are going with the "you are here" dot. What they did, was simply travel very, very, very far in one direction towards Jove space from inside the known system closest to it. Technically, as you say, they never left the system. Without a stargate activation, there was never any session change. I hate to say this, but you are wrong. A few (two or three, i cannot remember) pilots, used the scan probe mechanics, deliberately warping to inaccurate results of each others ships, essentially slingshotting past each other, or leap-frogging, whatever, this would gradually get them further an further out of the system. It took them a long time, but they eventually got to the point where the map showed them as being in Jove Space. Whilst they had not session changed, so nothing actually loaded. They posted it on the forums along with a small video depicting this (I remember it well). It was quite some feat considering how long it took, 2 or 3 weeks, maybe more. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.29 23:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: Neo Omni Originally by: Hesperius Thank you for giving some better information on the subject CCP Dropbear. Very interesting. +2 Seriously, Thank you. I wish Devs would interact more with us. I'm kinda glad they don't. We don't need more lazy bums surfin' the forums all day Yeah, but they are getting paid for it..right? But seriously, some threads are just post after post of speculation...then a Dev posts and it clears up all kinds of things. Now I know not to waste my time looking for that magic 1:10000000 (9:999999999 for all you scammers) wormhole that may lead to jove space.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.30 00:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Neo Omni Edited by: Neo Omni on 29/04/2009 23:58:21 Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: Neo Omni Originally by: Hesperius Thank you for giving some better information on the subject CCP Dropbear. Very interesting. +2 Seriously, Thank you. I wish Devs would interact more with us. I'm kinda glad they don't. We don't need more lazy bums surfin' the forums all day Yeah, but they are getting paid for it..right? But seriously, some threads are just post after post of speculation...then a Dev posts and it clears up all kinds of things. Now I know not to waste my time looking for that magic 1:10000000 (9:999999999 for all you scammers) wormhole that may lead to jove space. Originally by: Blane Xero I hate to say this, but you are wrong. A few (two or three, i cannot remember) pilots, used the scan probe mechanics, deliberately warping to inaccurate results of each others ships, essentially slingshotting past each other, or leap-frogging, whatever, this would gradually get them further an further out of the system. It took them a long time, but they eventually got to the point where the map showed them as being in Jove Space. Whilst they had not session changed, so nothing actually loaded. They posted it on the forums along with a small video depicting this (I remember it well). It was quite some feat considering how long it took, 2 or 3 weeks, maybe more. I have to admit that is pretty cool. Maybe Jove space isn't in normal space but another dimension..like WH space. Hahahah ... it's all facts and figures to you, ain't it? So what if you search for that extra dimension wormhole to nowhere? It's the exploration of it all. Personally, I hate a game that's all numbers and hard lines. I like it to have mystery and possibilities. But, hey, that's just me. Posts by Ruze Ahkor'Murkon and Ruze
F90OEX F9X Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.04.30 00:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Hesperius From someone who has done research. There are currently no known routes into Jove space. The fact is there is no KNOWN way into that Jove space. . There is a way.... But just not the normal way

CCP Dropbear	Posted - 2009.04.30 00:08:00 - [20] I stand corrected! Had a feeling that was coming, actually. (This is why we don't interact by the way, you all know too much, you don't need us anymore. Our little birdies have left the nest! ) The event I remember was a Multi-MWD Scorpion traveling tirelessly in a straight line for weeks and weeks, but I confess, it was probably not the first time someone "made it". I love that scanning story though, hadn't heard of that before. Emergent gameplay at its best.


Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.04.30 00:09:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Dropbear I stand corrected! Had a feeling that was coming, actually. (This is why we don't interact by the way, you all know too much, you don't need us anymore. Our little birdies have left the nest! ) The event I remember was a Multi-MWD Scorpion traveling tirelessly in a straight line for weeks and weeks, but I confess, it was probably not the first time someone "made it". I love that scanning story though, hadn't heard of that before. Emergent gameplay at its best. Its K. It was prolly the first time, just not the one the guy you quoted was talkin bout. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
MR trun	Posted - 2009.04.30 01:04:00 - [22] Originally by: CCP Dropbear Again, sort of right. They didn't use scanning to get their bearings, the map itself shows you where you are going with the "you are here" dot. What they did, was simply travel very, very, very far in one direction towards Jove space from inside the known system closest to it. Technically, as you say, they never left the system. Without a stargate activation, there was never any session change. On the map however, the "you are here" circle was placed over a Jovian system, since the map cursor was just tracking the distance traveled inside the system and then calculating where that would be according to the scale of the map. Really (and sadly), it was just a graphical map bug. This was made possible because, back then, you could fit more than one MWD, and could quite easily cover the vast distances that were needed to get the map to look like it did. I believe the 4au range on planets was an unrelated thing, but I could be wrong. I often am. ok question what would have happend if you have jumped a carrier into there would you end up in jove spave or in the last system. i know there was more then likely no caps back them but just wondering.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.04.30 01:08:00 - [23] Originally by: MR trun Originally by: CCP Dropbear Again, sort of right. They didn't use scanning to get their bearings, the map itself shows you where you are going with the "you are here" dot. What they did, was simply travel very, very, very far in one direction towards Jove space from inside the known system closest to it. Technically, as you say, they never left the system. Without a stargate activation, there was never any session change. On the map however, the "you are here" circle was placed over a Jovian system, since the map cursor was just tracking the distance traveled inside the system and then calculating where that would be according to the scale of the map. Really (and sadly), it was just a graphical map bug. This was made possible because, back then, you could fit more than one MWD, and could quite easily cover the vast distances that were needed to get the map to look like it did. I believe the 4au range on planets was an unrelated thing, but I could be wrong. I often am. ok question what would have happend if you have jumped a carrier into there would you end up in jove spave or in the last system. i know there was more then likely no caps back them but just wondering. It would be in the same place the ship(s) were. But because they had not session changed into the jove system, the carrier would not either. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2009.04.30 02:16:00 - [24] Personally I think they should just have a wormhole, 1 in 9,000 or more randomly pop up that connects to Jove space, throw a few stations in there and some ships and let people just have their fill. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.30 02:22:00 - [25] if my memory serves the allaince torns where held there, at least were, if that is the case then iv been there :D i know someone found a way to clone jump there along time ago, setting there clone to a station there or somthing along those lines
Nathanial Victor Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.30 02:34:00 - [26] let players become jove at 100mil SP (at the cost of those 100mil SP) ? turn in your skill points, start out with the bare essentials, jove frigate cruiser and bs level 1 in your skill que (no sold skillbooks) and a jove frigate (with jump drive) in jove space. seed the ships on the market, (all have jump drives) but only people born with the needed skills can pilot them. "one more spam thread will get you a warning. - Thanks Hutch. " isn't a warning of a warning a warning? or just a warning of a warning? didnt he just get 'the warning'? my head hurts
Tag Heuer Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.30 02:36:00 - [27] Originally by: Nathanial Victor let players become jove at 100mil SP (at the cost of those 100mil SP) ? .... This. Or at least a Death Knight.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2009.04.30 02:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Tag Heuer Originally by: Nathanial Victor let players become jove at 100mil SP (at the cost of those 100mil SP) ? .... This. Or at least a Death Knight. So basicly if I get 100 million SP I too can join a race of lethally depressed individuals who reproduce by having a kid grow from a tube and are glorified bookworms. Yay? -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
testickleme	Posted - 2009.04.30 04:26:00 - [29] im honored ty dev dropbear for peeking in and saying hi btw if any of your team has a moment is there a forum to post item suggestions?
hackzor nstuff	Posted - 2009.04.30 04:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Tag Heuer Originally by: Nathanial Victor let players become jove at 100mil SP (at the cost of those 100mil SP) ? .... This. Or at least a Death Knight. L...OO...LLLL

feffrey	Posted - 2009.04.30 04:38:00 - [31] With the new 3d item viewer panel "thingy" one can view the jov ships if you know the info sheets links. Some of those ships look frigging sweet. Wish they would some how make it into the game.
Angelos Reach Life	Posted - 2009.04.30 05:07:00 - [32] I invented the Jovians. And pants.
Mrsticks Minmatar RNCGM Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.30 05:17:00 - [33] Originally by: Angelos I invented the Jovians. And pants. Thats a Damn Dirty Lie. You Know there arnt even Waists In eve Never Mind pants. Not till almost 2010 anyways Long Live TEXAS! Texans join the Texas channel in game plz.
Angelos Reach Life	Posted - 2009.04.30 05:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Mrsticks Originally by: Angelos I invented the Jovians. And pants. Thats a Damn Dirty Lie. You Know there arnt even Waists In eve Never Mind pants. Not till almost 2010 anyways I also invented belts for you waistless monsters.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2009.04.30 06:16:00 - [35] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 30/04/2009 06:17:31 Originally by: hackzor nstuff Originally by: Tag Heuer Originally by: Nathanial Victor let players become jove at 100mil SP (at the cost of those 100mil SP) ? .... This. Or at least a Death Knight. L...OO...LLLL I would have gladly sacrificed a 100 mill SP character for a 10.000 SP jove character. And right now Niccolado is close to 60 mill SP. Ofcource that requires that the Jove are keeping their mysticism and style, and not turned into a another massproduced jedi as it happend with the NGE in SWG. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Tuttomenui II Gallente BUDAPIG LTD	Posted - 2009.04.30 06:20:00 - [36] Originally by: feffrey With the new 3d item viewer panel "thingy" one can view the jov ships if you know the info sheets links. Some of those ships look frigging sweet. Wish they would some how make it into the game. A dev made a comment in another thread a while back durring quantum rise, that there are no jove models currently in the game. you can see some of them with that nifty tri exporter program but if you were to see a jove ship in game, Unless they added models this last patch for apocrapha, you would see nothing. It would be as though it were cloaked. unless of course that dev was mistaken, But I am sure 'SHE' wasn't. ^^ My Signiture is an actual Signiture WOW!!!^^
olzi Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.04.30 07:00:00 - [37] A while ago in the test server, one of our corp members was for some reason transferred to the Polaris system by an ISD. We managed to buy an office there, before the ISD realised his mistake and booted him off. Couple of days from that, with the benefit of the office we clone jumped back, bought ships from the local market, sieged it and captured the Game Master Health Spa for Space Perverts: http://koti.mbnet.fi/oltzi/polaris/polaris1.jpg After that we revoked all the clones from the station: http://koti.mbnet.fi/oltzi/polaris/polaris2.jpg Some of us went to explore the system, here's a special bughunter cargo ship in scan, I couldn't unfortunately probe it down. Notice the now newly renamed 'kingdom of lolis' station and the alliance tournament beacon's 10k au away. http://koti.mbnet.fi/oltzi/polaris/polaris3.jpg This rifter was found from planet 1, I think it was left there by the devs from some previous alliance tournament. It had a really nice smartbomb fitted, but since it required a polaris skill, we couldn't activate it :( http://koti.mbnet.fi/oltzi/polaris/polaris4.jpg We also thought of flipping the sov for us, and set up some posses, but since you need an alliance for that, we gave up on the idea. Everytime an ISD or a CCP member would come by the system and boot us off, we just clone jumped back.
Olga Mokroff School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.30 07:01:00 - [38] Originally by: Blane Xero I hate to say this, but you are wrong. A few (two or three, i cannot remember) pilots, used the scan probe mechanics, deliberately warping to inaccurate results of each others ships, essentially slingshotting past each other, or leap-frogging, whatever, this would gradually get them further an further out of the system. It took them a long time, but they eventually got to the point where the map showed them as being in Jove Space. Whilst they had not session changed, so nothing actually loaded. They posted it on the forums along with a small video depicting this (I remember it well). It was quite some feat considering how long it took, 2 or 3 weeks, maybe more. Pilot's name was Not Identified. link to movie for some reason the original thread was deleted and the OP edited.
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.30 09:18:00 - [39] Edited by: Durzel on 30/04/2009 09:20:18 Originally by: olzi A while ago in the test server, one of our corp members was for some reason transferred to the Polaris system by an ISD. We managed to buy an office there, before the ISD realised his mistake and booted him off. Great story & pics. I assume your office was eventually removed - did you ever get punished for any of this? Also, what were the specs on the GM Shield Extender? I assume that needed Polaris too? EDIT: Found it. Haha 400k shield bonus.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.04.30 09:46:00 - [40] Edited by: Pottsey on 30/04/2009 09:46:51 Tuttomenui II said ôIt would be as though it were cloaked. unless of course that dev was mistaken, But I am sure 'SHE' wasn't.ö She was mistaken you can view the Jove ships and I think buildings with the new ingame ship preview button. Join us on the Jove channel and we will show you how to do it.

Jovoich Kleinrock Heavy Industries The Kadeshi	Posted - 2009.04.30 10:13:00 - [41] I can't bloody believe it.... you've all forgotten the one time each year that CCP allow some of us dirty pod pilots into Jovian space. Alliance Tourny!!! YARR I call 'Bull****' CCP. Isn't it great that the alchemy process was introduced & can 'take up the slack?'

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2009.04.30 10:29:00 - [42] Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 30/04/2009 09:46:51 Tuttomenui II said ôIt would be as though it were cloaked. unless of course that dev was mistaken, But I am sure 'SHE' wasn't.ö She was mistaken you can view the Jove ships and I think buildings with the new ingame ship preview button. Join us on the Jove channel and we will show you how to do it. During Apocrypha development, all the Jove ships were renovated. This was actually picked up by some players when they saw the resDX9JoveSentryDrydock.stuff file appear during the patching process. This and other stuff files contained the newer Jove models, and this is why it's now possible to view them with the Preview tool, where as previously, they would essentially be invisible (no model)

Macmuelli Gallente Meltd0wn Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.04.30 21:03:00 - [43] Edited by: Macmuelli on 30/04/2009 21:04:03 Would be nice seeing them one day within the game. Entering there terretory should requiere a player improvment. Some Jove npc s could be seeded out, which helps in this, via special jobs. They could be teachers and trainee u, for what will come within there space. (whatever this could be, must be much heavier then sleepers ^^) Probally they could start recruiting soldiers, to conquere there terretory back, and only take the strongest? For this they, could share there knowlegde temporary, and parts of it will stay in memory, when the job was done, or a timer has finished. A smal Chance to extract little "stayed" informations like the ancient relicts via reverse engineering. Like restoring Memory , via a brain scan. Intorduce A new tech level? The game has endless possibiltys. eve since 2003
MrWild	Posted - 2009.04.30 21:22:00 - [44] i'm still waiting to get my 1 piece of trit from M-FDTD 1 - Material Institute. I got there when it was possible for starter corp members to set there medical clone to jove space. Hopefully some day i may get to retrieve it.
Anubis Assassin Caldari Three 6 MaFiA Dark Crystal Empire	Posted - 2009.04.30 23:00:00 - [45] So why exactly are the Jove ships renovated if they're never shown? Or have I missed something? XD --------------------------- I have to make my own sig break? WTF? These forums suck CCP, fix 'em or get something better... I'm tired of reading Khraunus' sig every single time I read one of his
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.01 00:19:00 - [46] Originally by: Anubis Assassin So why exactly are the Jove ships renovated if they're never shown? Or have I missed something? XD Preview feature, devs to fly in. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Angelos Reach Life	Posted - 2009.05.01 02:40:00 - [47] Originally by: Anubis Assassin So why exactly are the Jove ships renovated if they're never shown? Or have I missed something? XD They are shown all the ti... oh wait, you aren't invited to those parties.
Qual Gallente Cornexant Research	Posted - 2009.05.01 06:28:00 - [48] You dont want to be Jove. The Joves are sick. Really! They are! I once wanted to help them. BUt nothing really came of it. Actaully I once spoke to a Jove offering my help, but I was rudely turned down as beeing to inferior to understand the problem. So I have been reading up on my science ever since... "The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf


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