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SencneS
Amarr Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.04.30 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Umm you do realize that you sorta need a POS for the polymer reaction right?
That sorta throws a kink into the whole build it yourself like a T1 project.
And to get the BPC, AND to build the components.. The production chain is VERY long, my guess is CCP listened to us all when we begged for... More in depth production chains, each requiring their own skills and multiple components :)
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SencneS
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Posted - 2009.04.30 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: SencneS on 30/04/2009 19:03:41
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Umm you do realize that you sorta need a POS for the polymer reaction right?
That sorta throws a kink into the whole build it yourself like a T1 project.
And to get the BPC, AND to build the components.. The production chain is VERY long, my guess is CCP listened to us all when we begged for... More in depth production chains, each requiring their own skills and multiple components :)
I think this sums it up nicely that T3 production chain is no laughing matter
I've been working on a Visio Sheet with a much better path and encompasses everything and what you can do with what etc.
It's half done. But here is another one.
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SencneS
Amarr Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.05.06 12:50:00 -
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Being a supplier of T3 materials I've deliberately pulled all our orders and halted selling T3 salvage.
Find the reason why and you'll win too :)
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SencneS
Amarr Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Arushia
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Ergo, gas clouds are going to be the choke point for anything T3
The ever-increasing prices of Neurovisual Input Matrix and Melted Nanoribbons say otherwise.
its still a drop rate item, something that can be farmed with more effort put into it.
Only so many gas clouds will spawn in any given location at any given time.
Duel POSTING :)
While your assessment is true the Gas Clouds spawn rate is much higher then say Mag/Radar sites. We've come across a total of 4 systems now in the last 2 weeks in which there were between 11 and 17 Gas sites. Each system we enter has at least 2 Gas sites. Where as the Grav site is on the decline, not surprising though, with 180 asteroids in a single belt representing tens of million of meters in size, and valued at multiple billions. Where as the general gas site is worth maybe 100mil at current market price.
In relationship to the above post, the value of the sites are in reverse order compaired to normal exploration in known space.
Grav has the most value, but worse logistics. Encounters are by far the second most valuable with very easy logistics. LADAR sites are next, no doubt about it, and reasonable hauler logistics. RADAR Sites would probably due to the Datacores value. Mag sites which are the hardest to scan down (Smallest sig) and contain the wrecks in which it'll be impossible to have T3 without some sort of BPC are the lowest value.
The Mag sites also are some of the more difficult to run because of sleeper spawns. Mag sites in Basic W-Space are mostly worthless, however in Dangerous or Deadly you need some serious firepower and tanking ability to withstand the assault from the sleepers.
What is ironic is the salvage and loot from those sleepers is by far worth more then the items you'll collect from the cans, go figure
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SencneS
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Interesting SencneS, goes to show what getting your information third party can change. I don't run em at all, just process the materials at this point.
I'll now go eat my shoe
With an organized fleet though you can farm a single Mag site in about 10 minutes, they are never very large even in Deadly space, so your source may be considering their size.
Some sites spawn maybe 1500 units of gas, which when converted turns into 100 units of polymers. It's down sampled rather then up sampled like T2 and Complex reactions.
100 units of Moon goo from two moons, makes 200 units of simple reaction, which when mixed with another 200 units of another simple reaction makes 10,000 units of complex reaction.
Gas and Polymers are down sampled, but I know you already know that. :)
For the rest of people and for the sake of information,
Some Polymers eat a lot of gas and produce a small quantity of polymers. For example, I believe one uses 400 units of gas and produces 60 units of Polymers. This means Gas should always be of high value because of it's consumption rate.
We just need to get people to want T3 ships :)
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