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Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.05.09 20:58:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Politeness loses an argument that I am not actually having? ... I fear for your safety. I fear you have lost the topic.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6515
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:01:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:No. You state your opinion and opinions cannot be argued. GǪexcept that the post he asked you to respond to was not a matter of opinion, but of fact. Granted, you can't really argue facts either, even though you are prone to doing that anyway, but at least get your answer straight.
Quote:People cannot refuse someone their right to voice a complaint here on the forum. GǪwhich no-one is doing. Well, you kind of are, but I'm talking about the rest of us.
Quote:It is the exact opposite You mean aside from the fact that saying that a request is unreasonable isn't the same thing as saying that a request is GÇ£illegalGÇ¥. So no, it's not the exact opposite.
Quote:And I am not your dear chap. You lose your argument right on the opening line of your comment. No, he doesn't, because the opening line does not change the facts in the post GÇö facts that you are unable to refute, as always. This is why you constantly have to inject your strawmen, your red herrings, your abuse, and why you have to resort to call people trolls when they prove you completely wrong in everything you say.
So yes, please stop trolling and start responding to the arguments and the facts.
The simple fact remains: there is no reason for the OP to get his SP back. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace n Quiet
75
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:02:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Politeness loses an argument that I am not actually having? ... I fear for your safety. I fear you have lost the topic.
You would make an excellent politician sir. Your skill at obfuscation, double talk and the ability to converse without ever saying anything of value is of a fairly high standard. It is also a sign of a weak mind.
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:10:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Politeness loses an argument that I am not actually having? ... I fear for your safety. I fear you have lost the topic.
When dumb whine threads go to 14 pages, everybody loses.
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Whitehound
265
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Whitehound wrote:People cannot refuse someone their right to voice a complaint here on the forum. GǪwhich no-one is doing. Well, you kind of are, but I'm talking about the rest of us. And you are no longer talking about the topic.
I will check the thread tomorrow if any of you fools have more to say on the topic.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:14:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:No. You state your opinion and opinions cannot be argued. I do not argue out of sympathies or antipathies, which is why I guess someone would ask a question like who am I or if I am the same person as the OP. Do you have anything in particular you want to know? People cannot refuse someone their right to voice a complaint here on the forum. Only a moderator can. So you and others do what you can without having a delete button and try to trash the thread with every comment. It is the exact opposite... Believe me, if you could delete the thread you would have done so before it had reached the second page and you would not have a doubt about it. Cutter Isaacson wrote:My dear chap ... And I am not your dear chap. You lose your argument right on the opening line of your comment. Everything else thereafter is only rant, because you fail to put actual thought into your comment. I could now say that "perhaps you should cease your trolling", but I rather ask, can you stop?
These are not opinions.
Quote:See, this could be a valid observation, but people in this thread have repeated stated that they would be MORE sympathetic to the OP if she were trying to scam with contracts and was having difficulty.
Instead the OP insists that her contract dealings are totally legit, which makes her complaints very odd, considering the fact that nothing major has changed as far as her ability to sell faction mods.
You know what? Never mind. You aren't going to get it, either because you can't or, more likely, you don't want to because you would be admitting to being wrong. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace n Quiet
75
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:15:00 -
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I think he's given up Tippia, it seems he ran out of illogical statements at last. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6516
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:18:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:And you are no longer talking about the topic. I'm trying to, but you keep refusing to respond to the points being made about the topic because they prove you as wrong as you always are about everything you ever say, and you refuse to admit this embarrassing truth. So how about you do that, or at least try (and ultimately fail) to argue the case instead of being evasive and spewing fallacies all over the place?
The simple fact remains: there is no reason for the OP to get his SP back. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Gay Mafia Princess
Pyramid Celestial
5
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Posted - 2012.05.10 05:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Whitehound wrote:And you are no longer talking about the topic. I'm trying to, but you keep refusing to respond to the points being made about the topic because they prove you as wrong as you always are about everything you ever say, and you refuse to admit this embarrassing truth. So how about you do that, or at least try (and ultimately fail) to argue the case instead of being evasive and spewing fallacies all over the place? Oh andGǪ Quote:I will check the thread tomorrow if any of you fools have more to say on the topic. No more needs to be said until you start addressing what has already been brought up. Until you do, the facts remain the same: there is no reason for the OP to get his SP back.
One very good reason, called good customer service!! Everyone seems to miss this point. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.10 05:54:00 -
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Gay Mafia Princess wrote:Tippia wrote:Whitehound wrote:And you are no longer talking about the topic. I'm trying to, but you keep refusing to respond to the points being made about the topic because they prove you as wrong as you always are about everything you ever say, and you refuse to admit this embarrassing truth. So how about you do that, or at least try (and ultimately fail) to argue the case instead of being evasive and spewing fallacies all over the place? Oh andGǪ Quote:I will check the thread tomorrow if any of you fools have more to say on the topic. No more needs to be said until you start addressing what has already been brought up. Until you do, the facts remain the same: there is no reason for the OP to get his SP back. One very good reason, called good customer service!! Everyone seems to miss this point.
Good customer service doesn't mean giving the customer everything they want. |
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Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.05.10 05:56:00 -
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Princess, why don't you tell everyone why exactly the addition of faction items to the market causes problems for you. I bet then we could figure out what the problem is and CCP might be more willing to help you. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6526
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Posted - 2012.05.10 05:56:00 -
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Gay Mafia Princess wrote:One very good reason, called good customer service! Except that you're not asking for customer service GÇö you're asking to be allowed to bypass game mechanics. That's something normally labelled GÇ£an exploitGÇ¥, and makes for pretty much the most awful customer disservice imaginable.
You have given absolutely no reason why any such service should be rendered to you. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
887
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Posted - 2012.05.10 05:57:00 -
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ADAPT OR CRY |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:10:00 -
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Princess, what are you going to do if CCP doesn't give you back your SP that you don't need? |
Whitehound
265
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:... No more needs to be said until you start addressing what has already been brought up. ... You were given reasons and they were explained to you. You understand them, you only do not like them. Whose problem is this?
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
Whitehound
265
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:34:00 -
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Andrey Wartooth wrote:Princess, what are you going to do if CCP doesn't give you back your SP that you don't need? She becomes a Goon and burns Jita.
Seriously though, it is not her problem but CCP's. They need to be careful with how they change the game. If they do decide to make every item exchangeable over the market including blueprints and copies (and show their PE/ME levels), then contracts will become obsolete for more players. CCP will either have to introduce new purposes for contracts or burn players.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:36:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Tippia wrote:... No more needs to be said until you start addressing what has already been brought up. ... You were given reasons and they were explained to you. You understand them, you only do not like them. Whose problem is this?
What were those reasons? I didn't see any reasons when I skimmed through this thread. I saw a lot of whining and moaning about a supposed contract change. But I don't recall seeing any actual reasons other than "contracts".
I think OP is just trolling and you are just here to push it along, just like you do in every thread you post in.
Whitehound wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:Princess, what are you going to do if CCP doesn't give you back your SP that you don't need? She becomes a Goon and burns Jita ...
And this is fu-u-u-u-u-nny. Are you trying to imply that we burned Jita because of a beneficial addition to the game that made us adapt when we didn't want to?
You people are going to keep going on about this Jita thing despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, aren't you? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6526
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:39:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:You were given reasons and they were explained to you. GǪand were quickly shown to be nonsensical. Now it's your turn to argue the points being made, which you can't do because you know they're correct.
The fact remains: there is no reason to give the OP his SP back.
Quote:Whose problem is this? Yours. The ball is entirely in your court and you refuse to even swing at it, so you choose to troll instead as you always do when you can't actually come up with any kind of argument to support your case.
So would you like to actually discuss the matter at hand, or just keep going off topic in your failed evasion attempts? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Whitehound
265
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:46:00 -
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Andrey Wartooth wrote:And this is fu-u-u-u-u-nny. Are you trying to imply that we burned Jita because of a beneficial addition to the game that made us adapt when we didn't want to? No, because your boss did not get his way.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
Whitehound
265
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪand were quickly shown to be nonsensical. .. No. Again, you only do not like them. Not my problem.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
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Shian Yang
97
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:51:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪand were quickly shown to be nonsensical. .. No. Again, you only do not like them. Not my problem.
Greetings capsuleer Whitehound,
If you are correct why are you not being supported in your arguments by all the traders that have been allegedly put out by this?
And why is the contract market still so very, very active?
Could it perhaps be that, as the noble capsuleer Tippia has said, your entire point is nonsensical. I think this is a likely explanation.
Regards,
Shian Yang |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6526
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:54:00 -
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Incorrect, as always. Everything the OP has said has been proven false, ill-informed, unsupported, or otherwise without any basis. Ok, so you have no arguments to counter the points and facts presented and you have no wish to try to argue against them. We already know this. It's nice of you to finally admit it.
So the fact remains: there is no reason why the OP should get his SP back. Would you like to actually argue the topic or just keep failing at evading it? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
112
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Incorrect, as always. Everything the OP has said has been proven false, ill-informed, unsupported, or otherwise without any basis. Ok, so you have no arguments to counter the points and facts presented and you have no wish to try to argue against them. We already know this. It's nice of you to finally admit it. Quote:If they do decide to make every item exchangeable over the market including blueprints and copies (and show their PE/ME levels), then contracts will become obsolete for more players. CCP will either have to introduce new purposes for contracts or burn players. Good thing that they're not doing that for a number of technical reasons, then. Should that ever happen, then maybe they will offer a universal SP reimbursement, but that's not what's happening here. All that's going on here is that the OP no longer wishes to use a couple of the skills he has trained for no adequately explained reason. GÇ£I wantGÇ¥ is not a reason to let players ignore the game mechanics. So the fact remains: there is no reason why the OP should get his SP back.
More Tippia lies. I will tell my corp mate to ignore you. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
888
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:03:00 -
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whitehound humiliated in another thread |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6526
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:06:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:More Tippia lies. Well, that exhaustive list and detailed breakdown sure shut me upGǪ
GǪoh wait, here I am still writing things. Something must be amiss!
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Whitehound
265
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:...nag nag nag... Just no.
If CCP ever implements a method to untrain and reimburse skills after a change then it becomes entirely your own choice. You would be the only person who out of an infantile logic will refuse to take advantage of it. It would be your right to do so and nobody's problem but yours.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
Whitehound
265
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:43:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:whitehound humiliated in another thread Is that so?
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6527
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:50:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Just no. Not good enough. You need an actual argument as well.
Quote:If CCP ever implements a method to untrain and reimburse skills after a change GǪthen they might as well remove skills altogether. Fortunately, they're not going to do that due to the damage it will do to the game.
Quote:You would be the only person who out of an infantile logic will refuse to take advantage of it. That's an interesting strawman argument. What logic are you talking about? Where does any of this come from?
Why can't you discuss the topic at hand and argue the points being made? The simple fact remains: there is no reason to give the OP his SP back. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1453
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:56:00 -
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Gay Mafia Princess wrote:CCP really needs to address this issue ASAP. With upcoming changes to FW and datacores that is going to wipe out another useful avenue of revenue I had. IF they keep this up I am going to be ruined.
Refunding your SP will open up new revenue streams for you .... how exactly? |
Whitehound
265
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Posted - 2012.05.10 08:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Not good enough. You need an actual argument as well. You are not the judge here so shut up now.
Quote:GǪthen they might as well remove skills altogether. Fortunately, they're not going to do that due to the damage it will do to the game. And why would this be?
Quote:Why can't you discuss the topic at hand and argue the points being made? I told you a few times. Your dislikes are not a problem of mine.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
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