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Colonel Cornbread Minmatar 37th Capital Fleet Screaming Eagles Gang Bang Theory	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:13:00 - [1] Edited by: Colonel Cornbread on 03/05/2009 21:13:08 So... I was a guest on an operation over in Providence. I was tagging along with Garmon / Genos Occidere, to test our their corporation (and to see if I could keep up with them despite my deafness / hearing impairment). Died once, came back in a new Rifter, blah blah blah... to get to the point... I'm not sure what was said over vent but our fleet were going somewhere. We were previously camping a gate and as I warped out (one of the last) I noticed a large 15-25 man fleet coming through the gate and I was typing 'GTFO HUGE ENEMY FLEET HEADING TO US' and once we warped to the other gate - they were heading to the gate (so either they were already on the way to the gate or I just saved their ships)... for some reason, I landed in a warp disruption field 72 km away from the gate. Funny, I warped to the gate at 0. Anyways, burning it and trying to get to the gate before they could arrive.... hah, I knew I was a dead man and was going to be podded for the second time today. An Onyx and Manticore caught up with me and promptly had me webbed and scrammed. I was about to give up until I realized that they were both in my optimal range... I was laughing like a madman (thank god my roommate wasn't in the room). I let loose my high rack, web, scram, armor rep and turned off AB to save cap in order to use it on the armor rep. By the time I popped the Manticore, I was at 50% armor with the entire fleet next to me (but 6 people were on the lossmail)... If the others didn't come, there is a slight chance I could've gotten the Onyx since he was using heavy missiles. It was probably the closest I've gotten to having an adrenaline rush due to EVE. It was so fun and exciting to take down a 46 mil ship compared to them taking down a 1 mil ship. EDIT: Post your stories! ~~~ Usual Gamer Alias: NakieoN ~~~
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.04 00:37:00 - [2] Originally by: Colonel Cornbread for some reason, I landed in a warp disruption field 72 km away from the gate. Funny, I warped to the gate at 0. fyi bubbles will drag you out of warp when set up on the opposite side of the gate directionally to the celestial object from where you want to catch people, they are called drag bubbles.
Colonel Cornbread Minmatar 37th Capital Fleet Screaming Eagles Gang Bang Theory	Posted - 2009.05.04 01:02:00 - [3] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Colonel Cornbread for some reason, I landed in a warp disruption field 72 km away from the gate. Funny, I warped to the gate at 0. fyi bubbles will drag you out of warp when set up on the opposite side of the gate directionally to the celestial object from where you want to catch people, they are called drag bubbles. I learned something new. ~~~ Usual Gamer Alias: NakieoN ~~~
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.05.04 01:14:00 - [4] Originally by: Colonel Cornbread Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Colonel Cornbread for some reason, I landed in a warp disruption field 72 km away from the gate. Funny, I warped to the gate at 0. fyi bubbles will drag you out of warp when set up on the opposite side of the gate directionally to the celestial object from where you want to catch people, they are called drag bubbles. I learned something new. And it was from C&P as well! I usually just learn new swear words from here, yours seems much more useful!
Misanth The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.05.04 01:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Colonel Cornbread If the others didn't come, there is a slight chance I could've gotten the Onyx since he was using heavy missiles. Not in a Rifter. There's a couple of other things to learn from your post, but you'll get there in time. Good start. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Colonel Cornbread Minmatar 37th Capital Fleet Screaming Eagles Gang Bang Theory	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:07:00 - [6] Edited by: Colonel Cornbread on 04/05/2009 04:08:08 Originally by: Misanth There's a couple of other things to learn from your post, but you'll get there in time. Good start. Please do tell me what other things I should've learned from my mistakes. ~~~ Usual Gamer Alias: NakieoN ~~~
Cyrdax Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:11:00 - [7] you couldn't kill an afk onyx in a rifter nothing personal, i'm about one skill tick away from having all related skills maxxed and i couldn't do it either --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Colonel Cornbread Minmatar 37th Capital Fleet Screaming Eagles Gang Bang Theory	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Cyrdax you couldn't kill an afk onyx in a rifter nothing personal, i'm about one skill tick away from having all related skills maxxed and i couldn't do it either Anything's possible in EVE, however. Some people thought BOB was an impenetrable fortress and would never fall... ~~~ Usual Gamer Alias: NakieoN ~~~
Cyrdax Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:22:00 - [9] hurf blurf **** talking blah blah blah you won't do enough damage in a rifter, not even with 3x 200 autos and 3x gyros shooting true sansha ammo overheated, to break the passive recharge on an onyx --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Colonel Cornbread Minmatar 37th Capital Fleet Screaming Eagles Gang Bang Theory	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Cyrdax hurf blurf ** talking blah blah blah you won't do enough damage in a rifter, not even with 3x 200 autos and 3x gyros shooting true sansha ammo overheated, to break the passive recharge on an onyx Seriously? It's only a T2 cruiser though... unless I've underestimated it greatly. ~~~ Usual Gamer Alias: NakieoN** ~~~
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:36:00 - [11] Originally by: Colonel Cornbread Originally by: Cyrdax hurf blurf **** talking blah blah blah you won't do enough damage in a rifter, not even with 3x 200 autos and 3x gyros shooting true sansha ammo overheated, to break the passive recharge on an onyx Seriously? It's only a T2 cruiser though... unless I've underestimated it greatly. Yes.. Yes you have.
CHED Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Cyrdax hurf blurf **** talking blah blah blah you won't do enough damage in a rifter, not even with 3x 200 autos and 3x gyros shooting true sansha ammo overheated, to break the passive recharge on an onyx This is providence we are talking about. Killing an onyx in a rifter wouldnt shock me.
Cyrdax Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:42:00 - [13] well, providence aside... it's a t2 cruiser with a bonus to shield resistances (and sporting the already powerful caldari t2 resistances) that is almost exclusively passive tanked by people who know what the **** they are doing even active tanked onyxes would be able to passive tank a rifter pretty easily --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Mickey Simon Noir.	Posted - 2009.05.04 05:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Cyrdax that is almost exclusively passive tanked by people who know what the **** they are doing It's providence yo. Common sense can go out the window for a little bit.
Cyrdax Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 05:33:00 - [15] thats true but when are you going to see an onyx anywhere alone in providence --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.05.04 05:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Cyrdax thats true but when are you going to see an onyx anywhere alone in providence Its providence yo.... Logic holds no place within these gates..
Cyrdax Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 05:39:00 - [17] i know i've been there, i was on their kos list in early 08 and got hotdropped by them multiple times in empire they're not the sharpest tools in the shed but i can't think of any reason ever anyone would ever be alone in an onyx, except for the obvious "i was moving it, and i saw one hostile alone and i thought i could take him and then like 50 guys came out of nowhere" oh right, that --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.05.04 06:05:00 - [18] Originally by: Cyrdax i know i've been there, i was on their kos list in early 08 and got hotdropped by them multiple times in empire they're not the sharpest tools in the shed but i can't think of any reason ever anyone would ever be alone in an onyx, except for the obvious "i was moving it, and i saw one hostile alone and i thought i could take him and then like 50 guys came out of nowhere" oh right, that "I was with a gang but I had to go bio and the gang jumped out and didn't notice I wasn't there, so I went solo trying to catch up with them." I can think of a few more reasons too.. Inappropriate content in signature, please change. -Weatherman
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.05.04 07:45:00 - [19] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 04/05/2009 07:46:55 We kill solo Hictors on gates with what seems like fair frequency. If they aren't already pointed in the general direction of a celestial object they may not be able to align fast enough to escape being locked by a gang coming through a gate who already had the Hictor scouted. But they tank long enough to escape through the gate sometimes too. They're definitely pretty tough. Not sure what the hostility towards solo Hictors is, except in the sense that camping anything with anything solo in low sec is a bad idea in principle.
Cyrdax Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 07:59:00 - [20] the main problem i have is that they lack dps entirely --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Sator deHarak Caldari Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.05.04 08:51:00 - [21] I think one of the funniest fights I've ever had was when I was solo-camping a pipe during a contract (in a somewhat ganked out broadsword), and a hostile phobos jumps through. So, we start going at it. and at it. and at it. I call for people, who are about 25 jumps away. They're like: "we'll never make it in time." "Yes you will" wait 20 minutes "Told you so." Pop goes the phobos Morale of the story. Don't bother shooting hictors in other hictors, it'll probably cost you more in ammo then it's worth.
CrimsonLobo Caldari Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.05.04 08:56:00 - [22] If only my Broadsword has some DPS =(
Sator deHarak Caldari Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.05.04 09:01:00 - [23] 3xgyrostabs>3xSPR
CrimsonLobo Caldari Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.05.04 09:04:00 - [24] Nah i have decided that might as well go all out tank, trying to put some gank on it is just pointless.
kor anon Amarr Five-Killers	Posted - 2009.05.04 09:16:00 - [25] Gz, i saw you do it You have balls.
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Cyrdax hurf blurf ** talking blah blah blah you won't do enough damage in a rifter, not even with 3x 200 autos and 3x gyros shooting true sansha ammo** overheated, to break the passive recharge on an onyx I think I found why you can't do it Not saying it can be done, but you may want to use the correct ammo for them autocannons. A Pirates Perspective
Kai86 Phantom Ops Tactical Assault Force	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:31:00 - [27] you are ******ed if you think that any frig AF or otherwise could kill an onyx. i am not sure if you could do it if the pilot barely had the skills to fly it and had all t1 gear on it as well TBH the things will tank out a battleship any day. they have the second best sub-capitol tank in the game next to the vulture, you cannot beat it sorry Roll The Dice...
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Kai86 you are ******ed if you think that any frig AF or otherwise could kill an onyx. i am not sure if you could do it if the pilot barely had the skills to fly it and had all t1 gear on it as well TBH the things will tank out a battleship any day. they have the second best sub-capitol tank in the game next to the vulture, you cannot beat it sorry I think you over estimate them tbh, A neut or two will ruin a HICs day and the majority of HICs in lowsec are already tanking sentries, it only takes an extra 100 odd DPS to put it over the top. No ship is invincible and there are a lot of idiots out there flying ships they have no business even owning. A Pirates Perspective
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:42:00 - [29] With sentrys on your side then you can probably break an Onyx, although it will take awhile, unless he's in a Shield Power relay fit (Which will cap out pretty quickly while he is running the point) ~~~ Join Genos Occidere. Full of the best PvPers, Forum posters and CHEDs. Recruitment Thread
Kai86 Phantom Ops Tactical Assault Force	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:44:00 - [30] ok you sir are wrong first off look at an onyx base resists 1 and 2 look at the passive recharge rate (not cap dependent) unless you are talking about the one invul that most fit then yes a neut ship will turn it off but no it wont have the dps in low sec with gate guns (collected 300 dps) and if you actually would read this topic the engagement took place in nullsec meaning no gate guns SO you are again wrong Roll The Dice...
Benedikt Miloslav	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:50:00 - [31] Originally by: Kai86 low sec with gate guns (collected 300 dps) Gate guns do 350 DPS. A well skilled standard fit rifter will do between 80 and 100 DPS. An Onyx that actually wants to kill something in low sec will not have SPRs, will be fitted for buffer and most likely will have defense below 300. So in this case, breaking his tank would take time, but it's possible. In 0.0 it's an entirely different matter, as they will either be fitted with a huge buffer (to tackle for fleets) or a huge passive tank (to tackle for small gangs).
Captain Gardak Caldari Ihatalo Navy Ihatalo Cartel Navy	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:54:00 - [32] Just so you know a Onyx has a better passive tank then a drake. I have a drake thar can tank 3 BS's with pretty low SP needed. So there is no way a rifter can break a passivly tanked onyx of a 40+mill toon. Nice story to spite the fact that it could have never happened.
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:55:00 - [33] People who fit SPRs to drakes need to die. ~~~ Join Genos Occidere. Full of the best PvPers, Forum posters and CHEDs. Recruitment Thread
Captain Gardak Caldari Ihatalo Navy Ihatalo Cartel Navy	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:57:00 - [34] Well he got stopped by a bubble 70 somthing off the gate so it was in fact 0.0 (You cant use them in low sec.) But from what I got from the story he was 50% armor by the time he killed the first ship and there wasnt even time to dent his tank. Nice try buddy.
Captain Gardak Caldari Ihatalo Navy Ihatalo Cartel Navy	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:59:00 - [35] He wasnt fighting a drake I was mearly using it as a simalar ship to compare it to.
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2009.05.04 12:20:00 - [36] Originally by: Kai86 ok you sir are wrong first off look at an onyx base resists 1 and 2 look at the passive recharge rate (not cap dependent) unless you are talking about the one invul that most fit then yes a neut ship will turn it off but no it wont have the dps in low sec with gate guns (collected 300 dps) and if you actually would read this topic the engagement took place in nullsec meaning no gate guns SO you are again wrong And you sir are ******ed, I was responding to someone saying an AF/Frigate could never kill an Onyx, I was pointing out that in a scenarios in lowsec in which a HIC is tanking sentries it is very possible. I've seen people brag about their EFT Drake/Onyx/Vulture/Nighthawk tanks that could tank the zombie apocolypse but have seen them die all the same because the pilots are total muppets. Nullsec is a total different kettle of fish, there may not be sentries but there are blobs and no matter how awesome your tank is, a gang of frigates will kill you. A Pirates Perspective
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2009.05.04 12:21:00 - [37] Edited by: Kane Rizzel on 04/05/2009 12:21:38 Meh, double post A Pirates Perspective
Tzest0r	Posted - 2009.05.04 12:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Colonel Cornbread for some reason, I landed in a warp disruption field 72 km away from the gate. Funny, I warped to the gate at 0. fyi bubbles will drag you out of warp when set up on the opposite side of the gate directionally to the celestial object from where you want to catch people, they are called drag bubbles. i had this question in my head for quite some time : if it's possible near gates , can it be done in the middle of the route at full warp speed ?
Bazman Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2009.05.04 12:54:00 - [39] Funny, my geddons/Mega's have no problem killing an Onyx when I stuff them with a heavy neut :pro: -----
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.04 14:33:00 - [40] Originally by: Tzest0r Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Colonel Cornbread for some reason, I landed in a warp disruption field 72 km away from the gate. Funny, I warped to the gate at 0. fyi bubbles will drag you out of warp when set up on the opposite side of the gate directionally to the celestial object from where you want to catch people, they are called drag bubbles. i had this question in my head for quite some time : if it's possible near gates , can it be done in the middle of the route at full warp speed ? no, it only works on the grid on which the target ship is dropping out of warp (like gate/belt/pos) dropping one in a safe spot does nothing
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.05.11 03:32:00 - [41] I learned about drag bubbles the hard way...although they were ally bubbles so I didn't lose a ship over it.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.05.11 03:34:00 - [42] Originally by: Agent Known I learned about drag bubbles the hard way...although they were ally bubbles so I didn't lose a ship over it. I think I learned about them the same way, except mine was hostile.
Cyrdax Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.05.11 03:40:00 - [43] i learned about drag bubbles the easy way (agony unleashed pvp class in 06 back before capital blobbing lol) --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.05.11 04:10:00 - [44] Originally by: Cyrdax i learned about drag bubbles the easy way (agony unleashed pvp class in 06 back before capital blobbing lol) yeah.. coming out of warp and being pulled 70km from the gate is a ****ing shock the first time it happens.. Having about 30 ships between you and the gate after it happens was actually less scary. Fortunately it was on my PvP toon, so no Lana corpse!
Cyrdax Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.05.11 04:15:00 - [45] Originally by: Lana Torrin yeah.. coming out of warp and being pulled 70km from the gate is a **ing shock the first time it happens.. Having about 30 ships between you and the gate after it happens was actually less scary. Fortunately it was on my PvP toon, so no Lana corpse! cheers on the no corpse part imagine coming out of warp into a drag bubble 100k behind a gate and your overview fills up completely... and then you're like oh it's just frigates. man, that's a lot of frigates. **. --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Dzil Caldari Second Quadrant Ice Division	Posted - 2009.05.11 17:44:00 - [46] Originally by: Gneeznow fyi bubbles will drag you out of warp when set up on the opposite side of the gate directionally to the celestial object from where you want to catch people, they are called drag bubbles. I learned this from C&P :)
Master Chaz	Posted - 2009.05.11 20:07:00 - [47] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: Cyrdax i learned about drag bubbles the easy way (agony unleashed pvp class in 06 back before capital blobbing lol) yeah.. coming out of warp and being pulled 70km from the gate is a ****ing shock the first time it happens.. Having about 30 ships between you and the gate after it happens was actually less scary. Fortunately it was on my PvP toon, so no Lana corpse! i want a lana corpse mommy everbody has one pleaseeeeee... p.s i have absolutely nothing to add to this post........
MrChook THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2009.05.12 04:09:00 - [48] Originally by: Colonel Cornbread I was tagging along with Garmon / Genos Occidere, to test our their corporation (and to see if I could keep up with them despite my deafness / hearing impairment). Honestly, being hearing impaired is probably a good thing in this case, I can only ever understand half the things Garmon says on vent anyway.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.05.12 04:15:00 - [49] Originally by: MrChook Originally by: Colonel Cornbread I was tagging along with Garmon / Genos Occidere, to test our their corporation (and to see if I could keep up with them despite my deafness / hearing impairment). Honestly, being hearing impaired is probably a good thing in this case, I can only ever understand half the things Garmon says on vent anyway. You understand him half the time? Whats the trick?
MrChook THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2009.05.12 04:34:00 - [50] Originally by: Lana Torrin You understand him half the time? Whats the trick? Farmyard animal nickname...
Ranik Sandaris Caldari The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.12 07:36:00 - [51] i read this thread title as taking somone down on you. Also, why do people sign theyr posts with their GOD DAMM CHARACTER NAME. WE CAN ALL SEE WHO IS POSTING. from now on i will be signing my posts with random names. - Donald Trecondiarias the second Zoom Zoom
Morel Nova z3r0 Gravity	Posted - 2009.05.12 09:50:00 - [52] Edited by: Morel Nova on 12/05/2009 09:52:12 Many HIC pilots get really **y and think they can tank anything :D We killed one that was mouthing off in local the other day for much lulz. First he was going on about how we couldn't catch him in our rifters because he kept warping in at moons etc, then we catch him and he starts bragging how we cant break his tank and hes just going to log off and disappear, we broke him pretty quick because I had a cane docked in a station in system, but i regret picking it up now because I think we could have popped him almost as quick with just the frigs for more laughs :( also, about taking someone down with you. My best fights are when I die, but kill more expensive ** before popping :D (rifter vs blob including stealth bombers... stealth bombers pricey paper bags >:-D) Put in space whales!
Kale Kold Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.12 15:35:00 - [53] Edited by: Kale Kold on 12/05/2009 15:35:45 I have flown Onyx's since they were introduced and have all related skills on 5. I once tanked a typhoon and cerb together indefinitely. They can have insane tanks, well over 1000dps. Criminal Record
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.05.12 15:42:00 - [54] Dont know why people have trouble understanding everyone's fav. welshman Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Imperium Forces	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:03:00 - [55] Originally by: CrimsonLobo If only my Broadsword has some DPS =( the broadsword to? yay, phobos isnt the only one \0/ ( i just finished training for heavy interdictors, lol) Sig removed, the file size image is 24000 bytes and it lacks EVE-related content - Mitnal
Neacail	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:05:00 - [56] Originally by: Ranik Sandaris i read this thread title as taking somone down on you. Also, why do people sign theyr posts with their GOD DAMM CHARACTER NAME. WE CAN ALL SEE WHO IS POSTING. from now on i will be signing my posts with random names. - Donald Trecondiarias the second That is a great idea. - Niccol= di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.
Colonel Cornbread Minmatar Subnet Syndicate Binary Brotherhood	Posted - 2009.05.12 22:27:00 - [57] Originally by: Neacail Originally by: Ranik Sandaris i read this thread title as taking somone down on you. Also, why do people sign theyr posts with their GOD DAMM CHARACTER NAME. WE CAN ALL SEE WHO IS POSTING. from now on i will be signing my posts with random names. - Donald Trecondiarias the second That is a great idea. - Niccol= di Bernardo dei Machiavelli. Seconded. - Private Pineapple
Cyrdax Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.05.13 00:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Colonel Cornbread Originally by: Neacail Originally by: Ranik Sandaris i read this thread title as taking somone down on you. Also, why do people sign theyr posts with their GOD DAMM CHARACTER NAME. WE CAN ALL SEE WHO IS POSTING. from now on i will be signing my posts with random names. - Donald Trecondiarias the second That is a great idea. - Niccol= di Bernardo dei Machiavelli. Seconded. - Private Pineapple your idea confuses and infuriates me - requiescat --- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that?
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.05.13 01:48:00 - [59] Originally by: RedSplat Dont know why people have trouble understanding everyone's fav. welshman Hes welsh?! Holy **** I thought he was like Eastern European or something.. I'll keep then in mind next time he sends me a love letter.

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