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Kingnuts
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Posted - 2009.05.05 04:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kingnuts on 05/05/2009 04:51:19
Originally by: Cyrdax
Originally by: hackzor nstuff crying
some stuff
if it's such a small thing as a game why can't you take it in stride and be the bigger man? is it too much for your honor backbone to take?
Back what? Curse words are not allowed on the forums, sir. 
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Absalom Marathon
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.05.05 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrdax
Originally by: hackzor nstuff you miss the point entirely he was a rl friend who used his rl friends then kicked them aside for some 1's and 0's some friend he turned out to be
if it's such a small thing as a game why can't you take it in stride and be the bigger man? is it too much for your honor backbone to take?
It's not about if it's 1's and 0's, or if it's a car. The trust is broken. The 'friend' would have to work really hard to get my trust back after something like that.
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Kingnuts
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Posted - 2009.05.05 05:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kingnuts on 05/05/2009 05:13:52
Originally by: Absalom Marathon
Originally by: Cyrdax
Originally by: hackzor nstuff stuff
even more stuff
It's not about if it's 1's and 0's, or if it's a car. The trust is broken. The 'friend' would have to work really hard to get my trust back after something like that.
Then he wasn't your friend and you're a chump.
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Hot Lotto
Minmatar Eve Hot Lotto
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Posted - 2009.05.05 05:41:00 -
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Wow, that is one lucky employee that all you did was fire him. I would have probably turned him in. ___________________________________
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LittleBar
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Posted - 2009.05.05 07:54:00 -
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Real Life is made up of time, so is this crazy game. I find it really hopeful that so many people act like moral, civilized people despite the evolution by CCP of EVE into an unrealistic playpen for sociopathic behavior. What you spend a lot of time doing, does effect the way you think and your assumptions on how the world works. You can control those responses, but you are effected. I still play this game after so many years only because I found a corp that is honorable and creates. If the game mechanics didn't prevent us, the carebears which support the EVE economy would organize to exterminate in empire piracy just like societies did on the frontiers. Yet, I still play. I've been ganked, scammed, cheated, and also helped out and backed up. It was those last two behaviors that is the reason I still play all these accounts. While the game is only 1 and 0, the time is RL people, and despite people playing at being evil, I can't let down those who are not. So, I still play.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.05.05 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrdax
Originally by: hackzor nstuff you miss the point entirely he was a rl friend who used his rl friends then kicked them aside for some 1's and 0's some friend he turned out to be
which is worse, the friend who jacked your imaginary internet forehead fortress, or you, the friends who got their panties all in a bunch over some 1's and 0's?
if it's such a small thing as a game why can't you take it in stride and be the bigger man? is it too much for your honor backbone to take?
EVE is a serious time investment. If some jerk in the same corp as me AND my IRL friend, who obviously knew the time commitment to making an internet spaceship, and who knows the even though it is "just a game" it is something that I find very enjoyable and which is an important part of my leisure time is willing to rip me off he is not a friend.
Seriously, what sort of people do you associate with where ripping eachother off is something you "be a bigger man" about. My friends are the people that support me and make me feel good, they are not supposed to be the ones to **** me off and put me in "be the bigger man" situations constantly.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.05 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jimer Lins To be honest, I'm surprised you let him stick around. It would have been a more effective lesson had you 1) fired him and 2) filed a police report for the hacking.
This tbh. If he can steal virtual stuff like that imagine when he's talked into grabbing stuff from your store whatever.
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Ludi Tomina
Gallente tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.05.05 08:48:00 -
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I think you did the right thing not to press charges. No real damage was done, and that ex-employee will realize what he's done when he gets m0ron for boss at his next job. I mean, his (ex)boss plays EVE and you can talk about it during boring days at work!!! And he ruins it! St00pid!
Anyway, 2 thumbs up for you m8, for being human! *********** WTB: RL |

Future Mutant
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Posted - 2009.05.05 10:37:00 -
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You could have pressed charges on not only the employee but also the ppl who helped him- at the very least the one who sent him the software to do it.
If i oversaw a banks operation and gave someone the information needed to rob it-if they did rob it i would also be guilty.
It would be one thing if he screwed you over in game- eh then its "only a game" But when you use illegal rl tactics then it becomes more then a d move- he crossed the line If hes capable of doing this to impress friends on the internet- what do you think hes capable of doing in the future.. One more thing- your wife still has your password?? Thats a bad OP!! a very bad OP
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ImRedYoureDead
The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.05.05 11:14:00 -
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He's just sorry he got caught, not sorry he stole from you.
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omgdutch2005
Gallente Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2009.05.05 11:34:00 -
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if he had done this, he had better used a better tool to erase ALL data, like DBAN - Darik's Boot And Nuke | Hard Drive Disk Wipe ^^ we use it at my work to perma erase sensitive data, that are on the drives at the prison facility i work at.
heck, it has FBI/CIA methods on the tool to make sure its gone ;-)
so i guess he wasn't that smart :P, DBAN+wreck the disk :P lol [url=http://apeocorp.com/alliance/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39011] [/url] |

Vaden Khale
Amarr Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.05.05 11:50:00 -
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Some people can't comprehend that this is a game, and that RL > Eve.
Two of my friends also play Eve, one of them is a current roommate, another is a former roommate. We're all really tight. My current roommate, Inara Subaka, and I left the united a month ago. Our friend, who was still in the united, started getting **** from one of their directors, who even went so far as to tell him to no longer hang out with us IRL if he 'truly loved the united.' I think he also mentioned driving to our house and breaking our arms and legs. Fun times.
People that can't get that this is a game, and risk RL for it, need to grow up and get over themselves. On that note, I prolly wouldn't have pressed charges on the employee, but I would have fired him. If he messed with a customer's comp though...police charges, here we come.
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Aesheera
Amarr The Voyage of the beagle
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Posted - 2009.05.05 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: ImRedYoureDead He's just sorry he got caught, not sorry he stole from you.
Out of all replies read by me, this one is the simplest yet most true. If you never foud out, he would have never been 'close to tears'.
He stole from you AND denied it the first time. If he truly WAS feeling bad for what he did, he would have come to you prior to you investigating the affair.
Youre trying to be a good guy, no shame in that, but you let him slip too easy. Fire him, police charge him, and wish him good luck with w/e he will do with his life.
These types of people should get it as hard as possible to actually be tought something. -- Project Damage. Running missions the improved way. Curious? Contact me. |

Lola Fang
Space Assassination Service
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Posted - 2009.05.05 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Cornbread Edited by: Colonel Cornbread on 05/05/2009 03:06:54 If the employee was caring and intelligent, why did he not know that it was very easy for a hacker to get caught and plus, even easier for CCP to notice if a hacking incident is taking place and know where the items/ISK are going?...
Like jeez, the employee may be caring, but he most certainly is not intelligent.
Caring in sense that he cared what Alliance Jackasses though of him. Stupid to think backstabbing a friend earns respect.
Welcome to the Goons.
---------------- "You lost your eye to a seagull dropping?," "Well," said the pirate, "it was my first day with my hook"
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Cornelius Augustinus
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.05 12:02:00 -
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Quote: unreadable Stuff
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Colonel Cornbread
Minmatar 37th Capital Fleet Screaming Eagles Gang Bang Theory
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Posted - 2009.05.05 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lola Fang
Originally by: Colonel Cornbread Edited by: Colonel Cornbread on 05/05/2009 03:06:54 If the employee was caring and intelligent, why did he not know that it was very easy for a hacker to get caught and plus, even easier for CCP to notice if a hacking incident is taking place and know where the items/ISK are going?...
Like jeez, the employee may be caring, but he most certainly is not intelligent.
Caring in sense that he cared what Alliance Jackasses though of him. Stupid to think backstabbing a friend earns respect.
Welcome to the Goons.
Backstabbing a friend can earn me some respect...
~~~ Usual Gamer Alias: NakieoN ~~~
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Kage Toshimado
Gallente The Logistical Nightmare
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Posted - 2009.05.05 13:26:00 -
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Arciadian - First off, I congratulate you for being able to track down and catch the culprit red handed. It is a shame that is was someone so close to you. When you trust a person especially in real life and in game and have that trust broken, you're absolutely right, you can't ever really trust that person again.
As much as this has affected you, it has affected him I am sure of it. Hopefully he will learn from this and never do such a thing again.
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Dannerkongen
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Posted - 2009.05.05 13:52:00 -
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4chan /b/
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.05 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: TraininVain on 05/05/2009 14:04:17 Fire him. He's not trustworthy.
Not because he scammed you ingame but because he messed with your computer and put a keylogger on there. That crosses a line.
His plan involved a fair degree of premeditation too. He was actively out to deceive you.
If nothing else I don't think you can, in good conscience, let this guy near your customers PCs. If he's happy to mess with you, his employer (and you sound like a nice guy tbh) how reluctant do you think he'd be to stick keyloggers on your customers computers?
This will come back to bite you in the ass eventually.
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Beldaws
Gallente Maniac Miners
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Posted - 2009.05.05 14:42:00 -
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Ouch, that sucks!
Hmm, I'll have to admit that I'd love to get hold of your assets too. 
You hiring? 
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Yukinagoto
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Posted - 2009.05.05 15:09:00 -
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It's quite funny how eve is a game that can jeopardize real friendships. I think in the eyes of the community and average player the most ridiculous thing you can do in eve is to treat it like a video game.
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Belkadan
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Posted - 2009.05.05 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N regardless of the proof, it is an elaborate scheme by your wife to dissuade you from playing eve.
win
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FOl2TY8
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.05.05 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Cornbread 4chan
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Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.05 16:43:00 -
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If I had wanted to see a goddamn Great Wall, sir, I would have travelled to China on the next clipper. This is the kind of literary artifice that has no place on these fora, and I, for one, hope your computer shop explodes in sympathy with my poor eyes (ingame).
Please contract any and all remaining assets to this character forthwith, and the matter shall be considered closed.
Thank you.
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Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.05 16:45:00 -
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Additionally, I am considering billing you for the eyestrain incurred during the attempt to read your missive!
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Matrix Skye
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.05 16:45:00 -
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Interesting read. Arciadian, you are a good man. This is a perfect example of someone who was incapable of drawing the line between virtual wrong-doing and RL wrong-doing. As much as I love Eve, I think it tends to push "anonymity" factor far beyond an acceptable social boundary.
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Feilamya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.05 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrdax he stole your imaginary internet spaceship so now you're not friends anymore?
No, he hacked his account. Internet spaceships are imaginary, EVE accounts are real.
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Jane Bennet
Caldari Alloyed Tritanium Bar And Grill
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Posted - 2009.05.05 17:59:00 -
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Let's see if I get this straight: He works in your computer store, and installed a keylogger to a computer there? And now he still works there, repairing the computers of your customers?
My advice would be to fire him before the local law enforcement kicks in your door after a customer finds a keylogger on their computer.
Srsly. You're now risking your entire company on a guy you already know to be dishonest.
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Benedikt Miloslav
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Posted - 2009.05.05 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Feilamya
Originally by: Cyrdax he stole your imaginary internet spaceship so now you're not friends anymore?
No, he hacked his account. Internet spaceships are imaginary, EVE accounts are real.
He was referring to another poster who indeed had their ship stolen by a friend.
Originally by: Jane Bennet Let's see if I get this straight: He works in your computer store, and installed a keylogger to a computer there? And now he still works there, repairing the computers of your customers?
My advice would be to fire him before the local law enforcement kicks in your door after a customer finds a keylogger on their computer.
Srsly. You're now risking your entire company on a guy you already know to be dishonest.
Come on people! Read the goddamn thread!
He said he fired the guy but decided to not press charges.
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Ard UnjiiGo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.05.05 18:23:00 -
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You sound like a very compassionate and forgiving individual. Props for that.
However, if you do want to help him and be compassionate towards any future employers he may have, turn his ass in.
All that happened is that he got it reinforced that if he cries enough crocodile tears he can minimize natural consequences once he's caught doing something selfish and illegal.
May be hard to hear, but you didn't do him a favor.
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