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Daedalus II	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:37:00 - [1] I'm sure this have been brought up several times ;) I'm not australian, but have many australian friends that say that DT occurs right in the middle of their normal game time. While I understand that the current DT is pretty good considering the servers are in London and that no one else takes a serious hit, I still think it could be modified somewhat? I would like to know what people would think of moving DT 2-3 hours earlier. This would mean a less intrusive DT for australians that work. For europeans it means that it's moved from mid day to morning (I see this as positive). For americans it would mean that it's moved from morning to night (shouldn't do much difference). Is there anyone else that would get it worse if it was moved? 2-3 hours earlier would also mean that it's still during normal work time in London, and that's the only thing I can see that CCP is interested of.
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:40:00 - [2] This would mean messing it up for the Kiwi's. Horse is dead, and well tenderized. Cant make everyone happy. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:40:00 - [3] Idc much as long as it isn't moved 2-3 hours later ^^ Right now I'm at work when DT strikes.
LA RUCA CyberDyne Industries	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:41:00 - [4] 2-3 hours would ruin US Pacific/hawaii numpty so instead of making up a bull**** solution how about make a solution like DT for a few hours once a week. Everyone is happy then.
Grez Minmatar Core Contingency	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:42:00 - [5] DT will always upset someone. The Aussies will need to learn to live with it. --- Grez: I shot the sheriff Kalazar: But I could not lock the Deputy BECAUSE OF FALCON
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:45:00 - [6] Originally by: LA RUCA 2-3 hours would ruin US Pacific/hawaii numpty so instead of making up a bull**** solution how about make a solution like DT for a few hours once a week. Everyone is happy then. Not me, since it will inevitably be on one of the few days when I can play a lot. …or anyone else, for that matter, since the server will be slow as molasses for 85% of the week. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:45:00 - [7] Edited by: Abrazzar on 06/05/2009 11:45:47 It'd be more convenient for CCP to move Australia a couple timezones than moving downtime a couple hours. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Weight What	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:51:00 - [8] Originally by: Abrazzar Edited by: Abrazzar on 06/05/2009 11:45:47 It'd be more convenient for CCP to move Australia a couple timezones than moving downtime a couple hours. I suggest just giving Australia to Lex Luthor as he demanded and letting him run his own EVE server, problem solved. ----------------------------------------------- Annonymous, trading as "Weight What".
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:53:00 - [9] The Aussies will have to adapt or die. Anyway, We shouldn't give perks to the penal colonies. They are there for a reason.
Franga NQX Innovations	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:54:00 - [10] Deal with it. I've whinged about this many a time. Particularly when CCP starts a patch on Friday night here. Good for everyone else because it's their Thursday, but totally stuffs us up. But never gonna change. I've tried. _____________________________
Joe Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:55:00 - [11] DT is currently 8:30-9:30 pm for me in Adelaide... Gives me time to make a Late Dinner, and eat it without loosing ships due to lack of attention
Dressy	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Grez DT will always upset someone. The Aussies will need to learn to live with it. What a nice little attitude. I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot? The fact is there could be a bigger market down this way if the time was rotated around. Is there a council member willing to run with this issue? I will vote for them plus all the other Aussies!
Grez Minmatar Core Contingency	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Dressy Originally by: Grez DT will always upset someone. The Aussies will need to learn to live with it. What a nice little attitude. I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot? The fact is there could be a bigger market down this way if the time was rotated around. Is there a council member willing to run with this issue? I will vote for them plus all the other Aussies! They ARE minimising the effect. In all other time zones they effect bigger audiences. Not to mention that no-one at CCP WORKS during the hours you want the DT to occur. Common sense lad, it goes a long way. --- Grez: I shot the sheriff Kalazar: But I could not lock the Deputy BECAUSE OF FALCON
Daedalus II	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:17:00 - [14] Originally by: LA RUCA 2-3 hours would ruin US Pacific/hawaii numpty so instead of making up a bull**** solution how about make a solution like DT for a few hours once a week. Everyone is happy then. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't there a lot less EVE players in Hawaii than in Australia? As people say, whichever time we take someone is affected, so why not take it some time where the absolute minimum are affected? Right now it's reasonably good, but it could be better. There is the possibility of rotating the time too, but I personally think that's too complicated.
Vitae	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:20:00 - [15] Originally by: Dressy Originally by: Grez DT will always upset someone. The Aussies will need to learn to live with it. What a nice little attitude. I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot? The fact is there could be a bigger market down this way if the time was rotated around. Is there a council member willing to run with this issue? I will vote for them plus all the other Aussies! Has nothing to do with attitude. The issue has been debated a gazillion times and everytime, like a bunch of self-important gradeschool kids, there are people like yourself running around going "me,me,me,me,me,me,me,me" Instead of thinking WHY Downtime occurs when it does. I'll give you a hint: Tranquility Timezone: GMT 0 Downtime Resources: Manual Labour Figure the rest out yourself. If you can't..tough beans buddy, I tried.
Kaivos Pyydys	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:22:00 - [16] they should ****ing ban people who start these threads for an like a week or so.
Daedalus II	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Kaivos they should ****ing ban people who start these threads for an like a week or so. If it annoys you so much don't read it :p I just came with a suggestion that I feel minimize the impact on as many timezones as possible. I'm not saying we should move DT to perfectly fit australians, I'm saying we could move it just a little in a way that doesn't really affect anyone (positively or negatively) but australians (for whom it's mostly positive). Can anyone who have posted in here say that moving DT 2-3 hours earlier would negatively affect their game time (well besides La Ruca that is)? Yes it's sad that this modification affects those in Hawaii, but it's really a very small place compared to australia.
Noa Fuyu Amarr Black Eclipse Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:30:00 - [18] You get used to it eventually. Just find something else to do in the mean time. Play a different game. Have a shower. Do some self maintenance. Whatever takes your fancy. -------------------------- I would throw a hundred ships into the void just to see you crushed.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance Blackguard Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Vitae I'll give you a hint: Tranquility Timezone: GMT 0 Downtime Resources: Manual Labour Figure the rest out yourself. If you can't..tough beans buddy, I tried.
Kaivos Pyydys	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Daedalus II If it annoys you so much don't read it :p I just came with a suggestion that I feel minimize the impact on as many timezones as possible. I'm not saying we should move DT to perfectly fit australians, I'm saying we could move it just a little in a way that doesn't really affect anyone (positively or negatively) but australians (for whom it's mostly positive). Can anyone who have posted in here say that moving DT 2-3 hours earlier would negatively affect their game time (well besides La Ruca that is)? Yes it's sad that this modification affects those in Hawaii, but it's really a very small place compared to australia. you are just one of those "mememememe meme and me" persons.
Sun Clausewitz	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:44:00 - [21] I could go for a rotating DT, move it +/- 2~3 hours each day around the current one. Would like to see it a little more random to keep the log in right after DT to hit up a plex crowd on their toes. ///my vote is for sale, he who sends the most iskies gets it\\\
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:50:00 - [22] Just the other day I was thinking it had been a while since we saw one of these threads.
Sjobba	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:51:00 - [23] Look on the bright side. High-sec belts are filled with Veld every day, right in the middle of your game time!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:52:00 - [24] Originally by: Weight What Originally by: Abrazzar Edited by: Abrazzar on 06/05/2009 11:45:47 It'd be more convenient for CCP to move Australia a couple timezones than moving downtime a couple hours. I suggest just giving Australia to Lex Luthor as he demanded and letting him run his own EVE server, problem solved. This solution has the additional benifit of having someone who at least admits that he's a lying thief run Australia. Also: Lex has some financial competence. +1 approved
Joe Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2009.05.06 13:21:00 - [25] Originally by: Dressy Is there a council member willing to run with this issue? I will vote for them plus all the other Aussies! I'll be running in 2010, but no, this won't be an issue I'll be representing
ColdChimera Gallente New Eden World Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.06 13:37:00 - [26] We have two members in our corp that have that (or similar) time zone; one in Japan and one in Australia. They have never complained, nor brought it up even. So, whats your problem? For one thing, changing the DT schedule would be very uneconomical for CCP; being that the servers are in EU time zone, they set the current DT for a specific reason, Im pretty sure they thought about everyone who might play around the world. They set it to what would be beneficial to there team. Theyre not gunna have people work ungodly hours just because a few Australians got their panties in a bunch.
Daedalus II	Posted - 2009.05.06 13:49:00 - [27] Originally by: ColdChimera We have two members in our corp that have that (or similar) time zone; one in Japan and one in Australia. They have never complained, nor brought it up even. So, whats your problem? For one thing, changing the DT schedule would be very uneconomical for CCP; being that the servers are in EU time zone, they set the current DT for a specific reason, Im pretty sure they thought about everyone who might play around the world. They set it to what would be beneficial to there team. Theyre not gunna have people work ungodly hours just because a few Australians got their panties in a bunch. I don't know why no one ever read the whole proposition but only the subject and then fantasizes together what the OP says. I'm not saying we should grab the earth and spin it backwards or killing every european and eat their brainz. I'm merely suggesting moving DT 2-3 hours earlier. What is so terribly catastrophic with that idea? It's still during normal London work time. Almost no one except the australians will get affected. Why can't anyone argue with or against the actual idea instead of assuming I want to move DT 12 hours???
Tunmarr	Posted - 2009.05.06 14:03:00 - [28] I work nights in the UK, and play eve right in the middle of the day, therefore, DT is right in the middle of my play time too. do you see me whinging about it? You see me demanding it be moved, just for me? No, you dont. I use the time to write emails, do some work, eat,have a **** shower and shave. Just adjust your style. It aint difficult to live with.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.05.06 14:34:00 - [29] I bet you there are alot of people in hawaii that play eve, they're call US military we're big fans of boredom. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 19Apr09
Daedalus II	Posted - 2009.05.06 14:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Nova Fox I bet you there are alot of people in hawaii that play eve, they're call US military we're big fans of boredom. I understand. But I assume (maybe incorrectly) that they (you) are bored at many different times? not just during evening time (which is where DT would be moved with the 2-3 hours shift)? So technically it wouldn't make any difference when DT occurs for you because you would be bored at that time anyway
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.05.06 14:52:00 - [31] better than Wow DT, everytime I get on that game the server starts screaming DT in 15 minutes... Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 19Apr09
Sanguis Sanies Amarr	Posted - 2009.05.06 15:45:00 - [32] I'm Australian and I don't care, DT has to be sometime, Australia lucks out, no biggy, just get the bigger roids when I log on and get safer runs through low/null-sec
Issaries Valran Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:30:00 - [33] Aussies should just play on the Chines servers I'm sure the down time for those servers would be more in line to what they want. Of course you would have to learn how to read Chines, but nothing is perfect.
Flavan Gallente The Brotherhood of Mars	Posted - 2009.05.06 23:04:00 - [34] While DT being from 9pm to 10pm local (Sydney/Canberra) time, it's a little inconvenient, but it's not a big problem - I just have dinner then. I do think that the DT being when it is does hinder EVE's potential development in AUS, but it has to be sometime, and that's just how it works. Flavan Ardene System Blog
Cat Molina Minmatar Intransigent	Posted - 2009.05.06 23:27:00 - [35] I seem to remember reading (years ago) that Australia's population was curious in that they had more females than males... Most of them blond... With a hot accent... By what right do you attempt to win at downtime too?
Selia Evrion Gallente Night-Stalkerz Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2009.05.06 23:31:00 - [36] I know where you're coming from, but unfortunately, it's not going to change. We have to learn to put up with it and find something else to do. Me, I usually go and play something else like TF2 (an hour on 24 hour CTF instaspawn goes FAST :P) or do a bit more study/assignment work. If I'm home alone, it probably means dinner time. However, I have to agree with the "what if the shoe was on the other foot?" question. All these non australians love to come into threads like these (and I admit, there are too many of them) just to say a big f*** off to all the Australian players. I think it would be amazing to see how they'd react if CCP moved downtime to their primetime for once :) Not economically viable, nor even a smart idea if they did. But it would be the epitome of hilarity to watch all these people scream on the forums, particularly because there would also be all the complaints about "favouring australians". Ahh, I can dream desusigs
Cat Molina Minmatar Intransigent	Posted - 2009.05.06 23:42:00 - [37] Originally by: Selia Evrion All these non australians love to come into threads like these (and I admit, there are too many of them) just to say a big f*** off to all the Australian players. I think it would be amazing to see how they'd react if CCP moved downtime to their primetime for once :) It would not disturb me in the least if downtime coincided with my 'prime time' (EST). I'd work around it. You know... eat dinner, clean house, throw ball/frisbee/kittens with kids. Talk to wife. Go to store. Fix house. Laundry. That sort of stuff.
ThaDollaGenerale The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.07 01:41:00 - [38] I live in Japan, essentially the same TZ as Australia and I get so tired of people *****ing about this. Get over it, Australia only has 25 million people, whereas the rest of the world is pushing 5 billion. Unfortunately, you just don't count for much and should get over it. I've found that during DT I can do stuff with my girlfriend to keep her happy like playing board games and then go back to eve once the server is up.
pius Fabrica	Posted - 2009.05.07 01:45:00 - [39] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale I've found that during DT I can do stuff with my girlfriend to keep her happy like playing board games and then go back to eve once the server is up. Is that a euphamisum? /Kidding... But seriously, Downtime for me is 12-1, and every day for the last week I've woken up (unusual work hours), gone to play eve and realised its downtime imminent. Big who gives a crap.... plenty of fun to be had without intarnet spaceships....
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.05.07 01:57:00 - [40] Originally by: Cat Molina Originally by: Selia Evrion All these non australians love to come into threads like these (and I admit, there are too many of them) just to say a big f*** off to all the Australian players. I think it would be amazing to see how they'd react if CCP moved downtime to their primetime for once :) It would not disturb me in the least if downtime coincided with my 'prime time' (EST). I'd work around it. You know... eat dinner, clean house, throw ball/frisbee/kittens with kids. Talk to wife. Go to store. Fix house. Laundry. That sort of stuff. Please! Think of the kittens!
DigitalCommunist November Corporation	Posted - 2009.05.07 02:47:00 - [41] Have you noticed how EVE downtime is in the middle of an Icelandic work day? If they cared about fairness they could have a rolling DT that got shifted forward one hour every day, but it's set up for practical reasons.
Imhothar Xarodit Minmatar Wolverine Solutions Dead Mans Hand	Posted - 2009.05.07 03:20:00 - [42] Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 07/05/2009 03:21:36 This will never happen. The server staff and the devs in Iceland work at GMT+0, meaning downtime is from 11:00 to 12:00. This gives the people there enough time to prepare for downtime and do anything required after downtime. Moving the downtime around is extremely impractical for CCP. Three hours earlier? That is 8:00 to 9:00, I assume most Devs get to work in this time or aren't even there yet. Three hours later? 14:00 to 15:00, that is not the time you want to do such a crucial task everyday when closing time is approaching and you have been working since morning. In the end it is the devs who do the downtime maintenance who matter. And no matter when you do it, someone will always be affected.
Micia Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.07 03:26:00 - [43] The Aussies need that hour to make sure their dropbear defenses are working correctly, before going to bed.
Mickey Simon Noir.	Posted - 2009.05.07 03:27:00 - [44] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Have you noticed how EVE downtime is in the middle of an Icelandic work day? If they cared about fairness they could have a rolling DT that got shifted forward one hour every day, but it's set up for practical reasons. This. As an Australian myself, your friends need to htfu and use the hour they get to spend some time doing something different tbh It's not like one hour where you can't play computer games ever killed anyone.
Myrkala Minmatar Aurora Acclivitous	Posted - 2009.05.07 03:42:00 - [45] Originally by: Issaries Valran Aussies should just play on the Chines servers I'm sure the down time for those servers would be more in line to what they want. Of course you would have to learn how to read Chines, but nothing is perfect. Not a terrible idea actually. "Ruppie ain't no puppie."
Deathvoucher EnTech MARS WARFARE CENTRE	Posted - 2009.05.07 04:45:00 - [46] I have a solution to all your problems, 1st all of the aussies move to america (but not west coast, no offense, i hate their accent) then, DT gets moved back 1 hour, then it will hit at 2 am for me, and then for all the british people (i dont hate their accent as much, i just hate all teh words they say that i cant understand) DT will occur mid morning i beleive, then im happy, and everyone else should be happy DV, your extremly biased troll
John Blazez	Posted - 2009.05.07 05:52:00 - [47] As an Aussie player, It happens for me at 7pm (GMT +8) which is essentially prime time for us West Aussies. I maybe get time to play for 30 minutes before DT and usually play for an hour or so when it's back up. All in all, it only happens for an hour and isn't that disruptive. I mean, look at WoW (yes I compared :)) it's down for 8 hours or whatever and it takes up the entire of our primetime on a Tuesday night... TBH, it's ONE hour... i'm sure most players can do other stuff in the middle of DT. My CORP has a very active set of forums so even if it's just spamming your life away. Either that, or get up and move around :) The only real issue is when it's patch night... and they take the extra to get the servers up... Pretty much means I miss out on playing for that particular night but I can live with it... Core players will disagree probs :)
Nigel Sheldon Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.07 06:29:00 - [48] it's an hour a day - sometimes less get over it...jeez
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2009.05.07 07:22:00 - [49] The EVE downtime placesment is fine! Honestly it is... and I live on East Coast Australia. It takes a while to figure out that it is fine, but once you do you love it. Honestly... the time arround DT is DEAD TIME. that's why CCP puts it there. It allows long patches to run into the most dead of deadtime. The peak eve time, esp in Euro areas of EVE, is 1800 to 2200 ET. This is when you want to play anyway... Playing in deadtime is only good for afk mining anyway, moving some goods around, that sort of thing. To play EVE in Australia, do the following: Get on at 6-7pm. Do your housekeeping stuff, posses, hauling, some mining, all the boring stuff. At DT, turn off the PC. Seriously. DT will run long and cheese you off. And there will be nobody on after DT anyway. You are wasting your time. Go to bed. It's DT, the best place is bed. Take the gf for an early night. Whatever. You do more good sleeping coz its DEADTIME anyway. Get up at 3-4am. 6 hours sleep is heaps. Gamers don't need sleep, and they can nap at work anyway if they have a job. You play till 7am 0r 8am... or however late you can squeeze in before work... And it makes getting up for work way easier. PLay eve. Dude. 4am in EVE is peak time and it's all happening. This is the real EVE. there are actually PEOPLE there... makes PVP a lot easier. And if you don't work, have a day off, it's a weekend, you can catch the US timezone later in the day or have a nap, ready for tomorow. Play EVE the way it was meant to be played.. In PEAKtime, not deadtime :P
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.05.07 08:16:00 - [50] Earth is round. Whenever they pick is going to affect someone.
Ben Derindar Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.05.07 08:36:00 - [51] Originally by: Daedalus II I'm sure this have been brought up several times ;) You're right, this has been debated already. Nothing will change. Bad luck you. /Ben
Dibsi Dei Salamyhkaisten kilta	Posted - 2009.05.07 08:47:00 - [52] Isn't this game too violent for the Australians anyway?
Clinically Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.07 10:07:00 - [53] DT in au prime time really does suck ________________ ANZAC Recruitment - NOW OPEN!
Endel Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.05.07 11:01:00 - [54] DT is at this time because CCP staff likes to have lunch break at this time. The whole server and database maintenance is just made up. Office speakers: DING Server crew: ah, DT notice press 1 hour countdown button Eve Client: Dear players. etc... [1 hour later] Office speakers: DING DING DING Server crew: power off Employees: Lunch time! Eve Client: Disconnected from server Aussies: #@%&!!@# Me at work: gives not a damn dum di da dum
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.07 11:06:00 - [55] Thread bookmarked for the next time some aussie talks about "whinging poms".
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.07 11:14:00 - [56] DT is the punishment you Oz get for inflicting Paul Hogan upon the world. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Rachel Silverside Caldari K Directorate	Posted - 2009.05.07 12:25:00 - [57] Originally by: Zeba DT is the punishment you Oz get for inflicting Paul Hogan upon the world. fair enough, what do americans get for scientology, death cults (like heavens gate) and paris hilton? -------------------- i play momorpugers
Lonzo Kincaid Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.05.07 12:30:00 - [58] Edited by: Lonzo Kincaid on 07/05/2009 12:32:07 i have an idea, i think NASA have looked into it before. We fill the sky with a giant mirror satellite or two, and it projects the sun down onto the earth so it's day time everywhere at the same time, and at night they flip them selves around to block the sun so it's night time the same time everywhere. Just about the only thing that would save you guys. If you can survive the terrible weather effects that would occur. ---------------------- Quote: The rule of thumb is you have to outnumber them 2:1 before you even think about engaging them
Retsil Evad Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.05.07 12:49:00 - [59] Edited by: Retsil Evad on 07/05/2009 12:49:27 Meh. It's only Australians. I mean, who really cares about them? ============== Office use ONLY ============== BRING BACK EVE TV!!!!!!!
Cat Molina Minmatar Intransigent	Posted - 2009.05.07 13:17:00 - [60] Originally by: Zeba DT is the punishment you Oz get for inflicting Paul Hogan upon the world. 'Twas the movies that shifted Paul Hogan into annoying. Back in the day, the Benny Hill Show, Paul Hogan show, and Dave Allen At Large was our holy trinity.
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.05.07 13:17:00 - [61] Edited by: Typhado3 on 07/05/2009 13:23:00 Originally by: Abrazzar It'd be more convenient for CCP to move Australia a couple timezones than moving downtime a couple hours. allright my Aussie brothers, get out your paddles we've got some work to do. tbh though I've learned to work around it, you'd be suprised how easy it is to sneak stuff through low sec on a weekday around down time. ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Akura kawanaka	Posted - 2009.05.07 13:27:00 - [62] Edited by: Akura kawanaka on 07/05/2009 13:26:55 http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/australia.shtml this ^^^
Chereadenine Zakalwe Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.07 13:41:00 - [63] Cant see any changes happening, and cant be bothered reading the counter arguments,etc.. Moved from the UK to Aus a couple of years ago tho... And yeah, i really do feel the DT break.It cuts in right in the middle of what was my UK Peak play time.So if it could be put back to when most Aus folk are having dinner,beers/whatever..and most Euros are in bed or at work,WIN..but i doubt CCP give in to that kind of player crying.. P.S pls nerf.. nano,falcun*,bumpgeddon,passive drakes.. ô您&# Telling somebody you love them is like firing first in a dual. If you miss them, your screwed.
Esu Nahalas The Night Corporation	Posted - 2009.05.07 14:50:00 - [64] If CCP wanted to be fair, it should make DT appear at a random time every day. /runs
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.07 16:30:00 - [65] file a stuck petition and have them moved to a real continent. --
Lymitz	Posted - 2009.05.08 14:37:00 - [66] I don't really find it an issue, but thats probably because its been years and im used to it now.
Kel Nissa	Posted - 2009.05.13 23:54:00 - [67] I wonder if eve players got a job ... When i read your posts it seems like you are all students which do not care about a predictable sensefull work time. Did you ever considered, that there needs to be personal available during such a time frames? How about: "Lets block all australians" as solution? They are to far away and as such they got a high tendency to cause lag in fleet fights. Would this be a propper solution suiting your taste? Its not always black and white. Everything has its benefits and its drawbacks. The current solution balances most of this influences well enough.

CCP Dropbear	Posted - 2009.05.13 23:58:00 - [68] Originally by: Akura kawanaka http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/australia.shtml this ^^^

Allaera Caldari Kisogo research group	Posted - 2009.05.14 00:14:00 - [69] Edited by: Allaera on 14/05/2009 00:22:33 Originally by: syphurous This would mean messing it up for the Kiwi's. Horse is dead, and well tenderized. Cant make everyone happy. But all the kiwis live over here. Don't they? Just kidding m8. Time honoured tradition of Aussies and UnZuds bagging each other out......oops, did again To OP, in the 2 1/2 years I've been playing I have not once read or heard an Aussie/Kiwi complain about the DT time over here. Sure it sucks but we live with it. Be it dinner, shower....whatever, theres always something else to do. It's only an hour of game time and we realise it is necessary. So tell your mates to stop acting like bloody kids and find something to do at DT. Tell 'em another aussie said that edited for spelleling
Babanu The Accursed	Posted - 2009.05.14 00:51:00 - [70] Got to look on the bright side. Solo pvp is alive and well just before and after DT, way less blobtards.
Lilla Kharn Amarr	Posted - 2009.05.14 00:57:00 - [71] Totally unnecessary. The downtime lets addicted Aussie's get some food. And we all know Aussie's are weak. So they get addicted more than anyone else. Therefore they need downtime in the middle of the day. /Thread. On a serious note, let's let an Aussie make the thread. ------------------------------- "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato
ThaDollaGenerale The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.14 01:09:00 - [72] For those of thus that living in Asia/Australia/NZ, DT = Dinner Time
Selia Evrion Gallente Night-Stalkerz Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2009.05.14 01:11:00 - [73] Originally by: Faife file a stuck petition and have them moved to a real continent. What like the continent full of infectious diseases? Or the continent covered in nuclear radiation? Or the continent that has a rampant and dangerous drug trade? Or the continent that runs its entire foreign policy on the bible belt? I'll stick with my continent full of the most deadly animals on earth thanks. desusigs
Maverick 52 Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.05.14 03:59:00 - [74] Originally by: Daedalus II Can anyone who have posted in here say that moving DT 2-3 hours earlier would negatively affect their game time (well besides La Ruca that is)? Yes it's sad that this modification affects those in Hawaii, but it's really a very small place compared to australia. Australia: Fck Hawaii, they're smaller than us. The rest of the world:* Fck Australia, they're smaller than us. Hawaii:* Haha, noobs.
Lei Merdeau Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.14 12:32:00 - [75] I live with it, patch nights (like now) are the worst. I appreciate CCP not Daylight Saving on the server end, a 2 hour shift every six months would be much worse. Upside, I get to jump back on right after DT.
Darius silverbolt Rukongai Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.05.14 12:48:00 - [76] I suggest just giving Australia to Lex Luthor as he demanded and letting him run his own EVE server, problem solved. ^ The winner of the Day ..Pew Pew for me..
E villMonkeigh SPORADIC MOVEMENT	Posted - 2009.05.14 12:50:00 - [77] I wish Australia did get shifted to Euro TZ; my corpies who stay awake til 2am into Euro/American TZ bag truckloads of kills; due to all the idiots flying about at that time :-)
Parkuras	Posted - 2009.05.14 13:17:00 - [78] [Aussie Player] If you look at the "players online" Grpah, you'll see that the players online is 0 between 1100-1200 (DT) - THATS why CCP picked that hour. =P
Parkuras	Posted - 2009.05.14 13:19:00 - [79] Originally by: Selia Evrion Originally by: Faife file a stuck petition and have them moved to a real continent. What like the continent full of infectious diseases? Or the continent covered in nuclear radiation? Or the continent that has a rampant and dangerous drug trade? Or the continent that runs its entire foreign policy on the bible belt? I'll stick with my continent full of the most deadly animals on earth thanks. Also ^^ This
dr meathammer	Posted - 2009.06.07 11:28:00 - [80] Originally by: Captain Megadeath The Aussies will have to adapt or die. Anyway, We shouldn't give perks to the penal colonies. They are there for a reason. :O but like most contries Our settlers were rejects from England. take america for an example. just another bunch of people england didnt want so you got shippedo ff to what you now know as america. Same with australia. were all a bunch of Criminals. So watch local in 0.0 for when us aussies come rolling thru. :D
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.06.07 11:30:00 - [81] Originally by: Selia Evrion Originally by: Faife file a stuck petition and have them moved to a real continent. What like the continent full of infectious diseases? Or the continent covered in nuclear radiation? Or the continent that has a rampant and dangerous drug trade? Or the continent that runs its entire foreign policy on the bible belt? I'll stick with my continent full of the most deadly animals on earth thanks. Given your government's "Make the people pretend that sex and violence and political dissent dont exist" policy on the internet, you might want to reconsider that last.
Astal Tilkus	Posted - 2009.06.07 11:40:00 - [82] I have recently moved from UK to Oz. As mentioned above Aus players can exploit a few of their own timezone advantages - I regularly send convoys of trade through low sec when there are low numbers of players around. - In fact it is quite interesting mapping out the intel of various risky routs and seeing how regular pirate parties disapear in the early hours of european/us morning time..... On the down time side it actually means I spend time with the wife once the kids are in bed and don't get it in the neck for being on that blasted game all evening!!....
Nigel Sheldon Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.07 14:28:00 - [83] oh look another DT in aus sucks thread, really when will you people realize that it ain't gonna change and STOP GRIPPING! it's ONE hour or maybe less a day....if you can't cope with that then maybe you should just get lost instead of moaning endlessly about it.
StationSpinner	Posted - 2009.06.07 16:04:00 - [84] Originally by: Nigel Sheldon STOP GRIPPING! "Hey, hey! You said you wouldn't GRIP me!" ... "I lied." [lets the weaselly man from Commando drop to his death]

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