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Micheal Dietrich Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.08 16:52:00 - [31] Originally by: Xelios Sadly I can't go see it in theaters without it sounding like this. Sigh... Ryker and Wesley sounded like they were playing with the helium.
AlleyKat The Unwanted.	Posted - 2009.05.08 16:53:00 - [32] Originally by: Nigel Sheldon you are missing the point - all films no matter what the subject material HAVE to have at the heart of them some basic conflict (wether it be emotional or physical. i quote Quote: "THERE ARE ONLY EIGHT BASIC STORIES" how many stories do you think have been told on screen? Thousands? More? In fact the answer is EIGHT. They are listed below together with examples. 1.ACHILLES The fatal flaw that leads to the destruction of the previously flawless individual (Samson and Delilahm superman, fatal attraction and ALL film noir) This is the cornerstone of the crime drama - the flaw not to the hero, but the villian (coloumbo, CSI, Murder she wrote, inspector morse) 2.CANDIDE The innocent abroad, naive optimism triumphant; the hero (good man) who cannot be kept down (Chariots of fire, forrest gump, indiana jones and james bond films, mr bean, billy elliot, erin brockovich, amelie, a beautiful mind) 3. CINDERELLA The dream come true; unrecognized virtue recognized at last; goodness triumphant after initally despised; rewards achieved through transformed circumstances (pretty woman, rocky, strictly ballroom, star wars, my big fat greek wedding, shrek, erin brockovich) 4. CIRCLE The chase; the spider and the fly; the innocent and the victim; mostly the temptress ensnaring the love-struck male (godfather 1, othello, double indemnity, body heat, 9 and half weeks, ALL Film Noir) amelie, insomnia, dangerous liaisons) 5. FAUST Selling your soul to the devil may bring rewards, but eventually there is a price to be paid; the long term debt; the uncovered secret that catches up with us sooner or later and damns us; the inescapablity of fate (wall street, the seventh seal, the skulls, boiler room, the devils advocate, traffic, the red shoes, ALL horror, ALL speaghetti western genres) 6 ORPHEUS The gift taken away, the loss of something personal. Either about the tragedy of the loss itself or the searcgh which follows the loss. (Dr Zhivago, rain man, signs, jason and the argonauts) 7. ROMEO AND JULIET Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy finds/does not find girl - it doesn't matter which (west side story, when harry met sally, the graduate, sleepless in seattle, notting hill, titanic, shakespeare in love) 8 TRISTAN Triangles (eternal or otherwise); man loves woman and unfortunately, one or both are already spoken for (fatal attracation, the graduate, jules et jim, pennies from heaven, remains of the day, dangerous liasisons) Quote: null There only 3 basic stories, whoever you are quoting is wrong. Seriously wrong. AK EVE-ONLINE VIDEO-MAKING TUTORIALS
Zarda Sulan Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.08 17:40:00 - [33] New Star Trek movie changes entire star Trek universe - go watch it- basically wiped the slate clean. Very imppresive movie loved every minute of it. Huh?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.05.08 18:23:00 - [34] Originally by: Nigel Sheldon name a movie that doesn't have a comflict that needs resolving where the odds are pushed to the limits before a stroke of either luck or genius resolves the matter - it's the base of which all movies are made, otherwise you have one very very very boring movie... The Empire strikes back. Luke comes up with a brilliant plan with tow cables and they still get their arses wiped out. Then followed by an unlucky streak from han solo.
Bullageddon Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.08 18:55:00 - [35] http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-escapist-presents/721-MovieBob-Reviews-Star-Trek === This Space For Lease or Sale.
nails Caldari Ota Corps	Posted - 2009.05.08 19:03:00 - [36] I want the new warp affect for our ships in EVE.. like lag the camera and..... BOOOM!!!! then the camera can catch up mid warp. -------------- http://nails.otaku.jp/ota-corps/
Odile Deraie Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.08 23:38:00 - [37] Edited by: Odile Deraie on 08/05/2009 23:39:32 Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Nigel Sheldon name a movie that doesn't have a comflict that needs resolving where the odds are pushed to the limits before a stroke of either luck or genius resolves the matter - it's the base of which all movies are made, otherwise you have one very very very boring movie... The Empire strikes back. Luke comes up with a brilliant plan with tow cables and they still get their arses wiped out. Then followed by an unlucky streak from han solo. Bit of a poor choice to use as an example, seeing as it isn't a standalone film... The whole star wars saga, does follow the common movie style - Your are just in a sense, you are basically making a conclusion from 'one' scene in a film. p.s - I just got back from the movie, got me wanting to play eve all the way through, but I was also thinking of the Minmatar when Romulans came on, should make a feature length eve film, theirs definetly enough fluff to make a story from.
goodby4u Valor Inc. Psychotic Tendencies.	Posted - 2009.05.08 23:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Xelios Sadly I can't go see it in theaters without it sounding like this. Sigh... Ryker and Wesley sounded like they were playing with the helium. Startrek TNG isnt worth watching if it doesnt have patrick stewart's accent.... I mean they couldnt even try to sound like him?
IVeige	Posted - 2009.05.09 04:41:00 - [39] lots of minmatar looking stuff in that movie. Warp sound is cool. Look more like an eve movie but with the enterprise, kirk and spook in it to be honest. Still a nice movie.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.09 05:59:00 - [40] I'm going to have to see it by myself... can't let the friends know I'm such a massive dork Pomp FTW!!!

Quaristice	Posted - 2009.05.09 06:27:00 - [41] Saw it tonight and it was incredible. Definately heard hands clapping at the end. New warp effect was great and will make your clothes shake. Phasers were great, new weapons systems were great!! I love the way the ships phasers work (without spoiling anything) and the music was awesome. So much homage to TOS without being overdone and campy..the actors played their parts so well. And the opening scene with the Kelvin was dramatic as ****! Hit me much much harder than when "Data" was killed off....meh to that. If you dont like this movie in one way, shape or form then you are just a tard. Fact...not opinion.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.05.09 12:22:00 - [42] Originally by: Tiny Tove Originally by: Akita T ViewersAreMorons A delicious read. Yeah, well, I have wasted many more hours than I'd usually care to admit browsing this wiki EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Mercurye Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.09 12:54:00 - [43] I think I need to see the movie ^^ Oh well "Rachel Getting Married" and "Il Papa di Giovanna" can wait for my next cinema visit --~--~--~--~ ~NOTE: Freak~
Madame Capitalist	Posted - 2009.05.09 14:07:00 - [44] Originally by: Intense Thinker I'm going to have to see it by myself... can't let the friends know I'm such a massive dork I wouldnt be worried about that, we went as a group. It was the only decent thing on apparently, out of 8 of us, I seamed to be the only one who really wanted to watch it... Everyone came out saying it was good/great, and glad they went. Its alot more contemporary than the other movies, less geeky, but still geeky. It isn't usual star trek humour, but does have some inside jokes still (which front row Trekkie's made very clear laughs to be sure everyone knew, that they knew, what the joke was.) When it has Sylar from Heroes in it, Cho from American Pie and Harold and Kumar (The Asian guy)it suggests its a bit lighter.
Esme Westenn	Posted - 2009.05.10 01:55:00 - [45] I was really impressed. Spoiler below. I couldn't believe they did an entire reboot of the storyline. Ironically though Kirk still found Spock, Scotty, etc. Perhaps even though things have changed theirs a force in the universe there that will still make Jean'Luc Picard find his way to the Enterprise, Sisko to DS9, Janeway to the Delta Quadrant, etc. They made it realistic but still kept the traits that made it Star Trek. I look forward to more films.
Bullageddon Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.10 07:00:00 - [46] watched it, hated it. my childhood's butt is very hurt. bones, spock, and scotty were great.. other than that... === This Space For Lease or Sale.
Quaristice	Posted - 2009.05.10 17:18:00 - [47] Originally by: Bullageddon watched it, hated it. my childhood's butt is very hurt. bones, spock, and scotty were great.. other than that... You must be one of those stuck-up snoody Trekies that believe TOS is "their" show and no one else should touch it or even think about it. Let me guess? You wanted the Enterprise to look like they ripped it right out of TOS 30 years ago with the strings still attached and all? Did you just not understand the story and idea of an "alternate" universe and believe TOS is the be all end all? Why exactly did you not like it? The acting was great...everyone played their parts so well. The special effects were ace (loved the space battles and the lense flare). I loved the fact that the ships phasers were turrets that came up out of the ship (awesome idea). The music was dramatic and fit the film nicely (I loved the TOS theme for the closing credits). And its definately left open for more films to come....I cant wait! So would you like to elaborate why you didnt like it?
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.05.10 18:04:00 - [48] Edited by: Whitehound on 10/05/2009 18:04:56 Originally by: Tiny Tove Did the good guys win? I'm guessing yes. No. Dumbazz Kirk and his teenage freedom fighters had to save the friggin' world. You need to lobotomise the part of your brain that contains all definitions of Good, to believe what Kirk and his half-adult gang is doing is not bad. That's how bad it is. Or imagine to be peeing out of the highest window of a skyscr4per and you actually manage to hit a toilet, because the toilet is in a house a half mile away from you and because someone left the window open, and including a swarm of butterflies in China, which allowed for your urine to fly through the air and to end in one perfect stream in said toilet. And without any splashes to the toilet seat, making the entire act a Good Thing(TM). That's how bad it is. Or when you are a white, horny male and cannot get a black woman to have sex with you, you therefore choose a woman whose skin colour is ... neither black nor white. I will not say what colour it was but if sex is not sick enough already then this has made it worse. That's how bad it is. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while.
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2009.05.10 18:52:00 - [49] Good movie... but I guess all the series since TOS didn't happen. Do we need brand new versions on TOS, Next Generation, Deep Space Nine an Voyager? I think we do, cause no way after such a huge change is the galaxy going to turn out the same. And will all the characters be played by sexy sexy teens? I think they will.
Esme Westenn	Posted - 2009.05.10 19:14:00 - [50] I disagree. All that happened DID happen. Just that at some point in that future, Spock got sent to the past, so did Neeroy, and things were changed. So everything did happen, it's just that the present came into the past and now the past is the present. It's hard to understand but fundamentally this doesn't erase anything.

Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.05.10 19:18:00 - [51] Prior to seeing this movie, my knowledge of Star Trek came almost entirely from pop culture references. Amazingly this allowed me to go through the whole film without ever being confused once. And Simon Pegg as Scotty is
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2009.05.10 19:24:00 - [52] Originally by: Esme Westenn I disagree. All that happened DID happen. Just that at some point in that future, Spock got sent to the past, so did Neeroy, and things were changed. So everything did happen, it's just that the present came into the past and now the past is the present. It's hard to understand but fundamentally this doesn't erase anything. I disagree. The events in this movie changed history. All the ST episodes, after Enterprise, can't have happened the way they were originally depicted. So everything must be revisited unless we are gonna use the cheap out that it's an alternate time line.
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2009.05.10 19:30:00 - [53] Originally by: Dirk Magnum And Simon Pegg as Scotty is Yes. This was the best bit of casting in the whole movie. I want to see him get his own Star Trek series. I just hope when they make the next one we don't see anybody that's ever been in any other Star Trek tv show or movie. Star Trek does that all the time and it sucks. I think Capn Jim was the only original cast member not to appear in TNG.
Xen Gin Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.10 22:41:00 - [54] Originally by: Mr Reeth Originally by: Esme Westenn I disagree. All that happened DID happen. Just that at some point in that future, Spock got sent to the past, so did Neeroy, and things were changed. So everything did happen, it's just that the present came into the past and now the past is the present. It's hard to understand but fundamentally this doesn't erase anything. I disagree. The events in this movie changed history. All the ST episodes, after Enterprise, can't have happened the way they were originally depicted. So everything must be revisited unless we are gonna use the cheap out that it's an alternate time line. I agree, that film cannot have the same roots as any Star Trek, its was a badly written generic sci-fi, with ST references and names added in to "sell it". It's not Star Trek, its like on of those bad (high qualtiy production) fan films, that have no basis in what they're supposed to be based on.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.10 22:53:00 - [55] I just saw it... since when is around 6 ships considered a fleet? Pomp FTW!!!
Xen Gin Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.10 22:57:00 - [56] Originally by: Intense Thinker I just saw it... since when is around 6 ships considered a fleet? About the time when they considered that having a warehouse for Engineering was appropriate.
Roddy Piper	Posted - 2009.05.10 23:42:00 - [57] http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/05/trekkers-take-illogical-new-star-trek-warps-coherency/ http://coedmagazine.com/2009/05/07/6-things-that-suck-about-the-new-star-trek-movie-spoiler-alert/ I'm in agreement with these reviews. I did enjoy it but had to leave me brain at the door. 6/10 At least now I see that anyone can make movies these days. All you need is silly half baked script, lots of action, shaky cam, nice boobs and boom boom explosions and CGI overload and fans will fill in the blanks in silly story and plotholes themselves and think that the movie as making them think. Done.
Malvaceae Veri	Posted - 2009.05.10 23:57:00 - [58] Why on Khales's name did they have to make another "continuity"-raping prequel. Here is a radical thought: Make a movie set after the dominios wars. I rembmer that time being referred to as a turbulent one. Klingon Empire licking its wounds, Cardassia slwoly transforming from a dictatorship into something else, the Federation trying to play the white knight, and the Rumulans being sneeky bastarsd. How about a group within the Fed that actually is not all doo-goodery and does some uncvanny things in Cardassia. Maybe the Cardassian dont want Fed style "democracy" just yet. maybe they are helped by the romulans. Maybe this time, the Federation could actually be playing the role of the meddling bad guys. Would still fit within ST "canon" (after all, we know from DS9 that the Federation does have its ratrher shady black ops parts), and we could see some screentime from the only DS9 character worth it: garak.
Xen Gin Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.11 13:17:00 - [59] Originally by: Malvaceae Veri Why on Khales's name did they have to make another "continuity"-raping prequel. Here is a radical thought: Make a movie set after the dominios wars. I rembmer that time being referred to as a turbulent one. Klingon Empire licking its wounds, Cardassia slwoly transforming from a dictatorship into something else, the Federation trying to play the white knight, and the Rumulans being sneeky bastarsd. How about a group within the Fed that actually is not all doo-goodery and does some uncvanny things in Cardassia. Maybe the Cardassian dont want Fed style "democracy" just yet. maybe they are helped by the romulans. Maybe this time, the Federation could actually be playing the role of the meddling bad guys. Would still fit within ST "canon" (after all, we know from DS9 that the Federation does have its ratrher shady black ops parts), and we could see some screentime from the only DS9 character worth it: garak. Because you couldn't product place, introduce deadly bridge screens, and it couldn't be remade into Star Wars.
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.05.11 13:43:00 - [60] Originally by: Nigel Sheldon Making stuff up to win arguments Very simple procedure. 1. Scroll back. 2. Read what you put. 3. Read what you changed it to when you got showed up. 4. Stop being such a sad little boy pretending to be an adult.



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