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Chi Quan
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.05.13 17:39:00 -
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interesting read ---- Ceterum censeo blasters need some tracking love |
Arushia
Nova Labs New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.05.15 08:31:00 -
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No love in the Apocrypha 1.2 patch?
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Zostera
Minmatar Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.15 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Zostera on 15/05/2009 08:56:30 Edited by: Zostera on 15/05/2009 08:55:32
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 08/05/2009 22:49:05
Originally by: Arushia
The ones getting rich from all this are probaly the same people who figured out how to run 10/10s with two people and some alts.
This may in fact be part of the problem. A few people have mentioned that it isn't the gas etc that is an issue, it is the component drops from high high level sleepers needed for reverse engineering.
As a PvP player I want to spend as little time as possible lurking around in PvE content, and maximise my time lurking about in a Recon. The way I currently achieve this is by running plex's with a small group of other players. We divide ourselves and all scout a couple of constellations, mark the 7/10 and higher, come back and run them all. Doing this one weekend out of the month covers my PvP losses and leaves my with a good margin of profit. It also has several advantages...
Nobody is going to collapse the stargate and leave us searching for a route out 40 jumps from home. We don't need to deploy a pos and live there. We usually have a safe alliance pos in system or 1 maybe 2 jumps away. We don't need to worry about local. The items we collect are of a stable market value and income is predictable. We can clear 10/10's using just 4 ships max in a little under an hour.
Wormholes from a 0.0 PvP focused players(ok my)point of view just don't offer a significant increase in the time, risk and reward equation. The only reason I would want to run them is to gather materials myself to construct a T3 ship "cheaply", but I don't have/won't have any skills to do it because I am a PvP player. So if I want a T3 ship, I can run 10/10's and buy one.
I know the above isn't everyones point of view that lives in 0.0 as a PvP'er, but I hope it adds another perspective to the argument.
Zos
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Halycon Gamma
Caldari The Flying Tigers United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.15 11:07:00 -
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Why does everyone always assume the market will fix everything?
I mean sure, for most problems the market will self adjust and fix itself. Thats sort of the entire reason for having a market in the first place.
But if influences out of the control of the playerbase have an effect on the market, its not going to fix itself. It will get as close to balanced as it can, but it will still never get to where everyone thinks it should be.
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Arushia
Nova Labs New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.05.22 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Arushia on 22/05/2009 10:31:35 Would a dev saying "we are/are not satisfied with the current state of T3 production" be too much to hope for?
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ollobrains
Caldari State Inc. People for Organised Peace
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Posted - 2009.05.23 11:04:00 -
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once u find and get into a class 5 system they never connect to 00 or anywhere lese just other class 5 systems ive been stuck for 4 days collapsed 8 class 5 but i shant give up as far as the drops ccp likes grind put up with it
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DukeJoost1
The Last Solution Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.25 16:20:00 -
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I agree fully with OP. As this site shows http://www.katsucorporation.de/tools/tech3.htm building a T3 ship requires 52 NIM and 40 MN, significantly more than the single of any of the other w-space cruiser loot. They are therefore in high demand and lower supply, so the price rises significantly.
Similar with the w-space datacores and relics, they need to cheaper, so more need to spawn. Why would we need 3 w-space datacores for each, why not just ONE ?
And of course we need selection of the BPC to RE, just as with invention.
ONLY after these issues have been addressed by CCP, can the T3 market be interesting, profitable and fun.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2009.05.25 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: DukeJoost1 ... Why would we need 3 w-space datacores for each, why not just ONE ? ...
T3 as it was announced a year ago was supposed to be available as frigs, cruisers and battleships, once it's commenced. So Tac-Cruiser need 3 DCs per job.. that would imply that Tac-Frigs then use 1 DC per job and Tac-BS 6 DC per job..
On a site note here to (I mentioned it 2 weeks ago in the T3 sticky thread over in Sci&Indu forums).. CCP already did tweak Reverse Engineering somewhat as it increased the chance of one of the skills needed for RE by 100% in the Apoc 1.3 patch.
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