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Delphi Grendalus
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:47:00 -
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It requires way to much time for too little rewards, it is also a lot more risky then ANY OTHER profession in EVE. If just one of the people who mails me death threats decides to carry through, I could be made literally DEAD IRL and although I have a twin brother I definitely do not have any clones!
I propose the following changes to this, the most noblest and hardest of all professions:
1. New Skill: Scamming. Training them lets you hide one decimal per level on a contract. This would let my 950k invul field 2's really look like 950k, but actually still be 950M.
2. New Skill: Scam Projection. Training this allows your contract to pop up, maximised across the screen of 100 people per level. I'm sick of being blocked in local, let me THROW my contract into peoples faces so they get the message that they should be buying MY goods.
3. New Skill: Wallet Syphon. Let me slowly drain the wallets of everyone in local, say 1000isk per person per second. I mean their money is just going to be mine eventually anyway right? This would also help cure the local scam spam and help to ensure people spread out across the galaxy more.
When will CCP finally give us hardworking scammers the break we so rightfully deserve? Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK. |

IncognitoX23
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:48:00 -
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Are you an idiot?
Or do you just play one in EVE? Signature locked. |

Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:49:00 -
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Nothing wrong with scamming, it is the players that are the problem!
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011001100110000101100111
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:49:00 -
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This has to be a troll, no one would be this dumb.
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Delphi Grendalus
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:50:00 -
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4. New Skill: Scam Shield. Scammers should be allowed to flag hecklers with a GCC once per hour per level of this skill. We scammers have to deal with so much more then the regular player and subsequently we should be given more tools to deal with it. Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK. |

OV Marius
Gallente Core Antum
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:51:00 -
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Time to troll again now you can't spam local?  |

Gen Ackbar
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: 011001100110000101100111 This has to be a troll, no one would be this dumb.
Confirming OP must be a goon.
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Delphi Grendalus
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gen Ackbar
Originally by: 011001100110000101100111 This has to be a troll, no one would be this dumb.
Confirming OP must be a goon.
I am always called this, but I have no idea wtf it means. A goon where I come from is a supporter of a certain football team. I have no idea what that has to do with my heart-felt scamming proposals. Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK. |

General Newbold
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:54:00 -
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people dont like jokes round here when they cant play there game!
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Fossil Wolf
omen. Gay4Life
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Posted - 2009.05.08 10:54:00 -
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would you really call this a troll? Its not like they even tried 
Furthermore by continuing this discussion we detract from the real issue many of us are having with eve online, the lack of break between signature and post content. |
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Delphi Grendalus
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fossil Wolf would you really call this a troll? Its not like they even tried 
Sorry, you must be new, but there are no trolls in this game, only humans.
I certainly have tried hard with this topic, I spent the best part of last night in tears from some of the nasty stuff people have said about me and I came up with these ideas to put some excitement back into scamming. Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK. |

Bodrul
Caldari Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Bodrul on 08/05/2009 11:16:51 if you scammed someone in real life you would have a foot up your rear or something worse
people say eve is like the real world harsh
Scammers are just at the bottom of the foodchain and worst then Goons
only thing CCP should do is make things harder for scammers to many idiots are jumping on the 999 and 101 bandwagon and then spamming like mad
PS, nothing like wasting a time of a scammer and getting them to waste their isk on crap that wont work.
............................... You Don't Need No Reason Or A Three Piece Suit To Argue The Truth ............................... |

General Newbold
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:19:00 -
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i dont scam, i cant be arsed, i would love to scam, but it does seem too much effort!
but the only people who moan about scammers are people who are scammed
people need to learn to read
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Bodrul
Caldari Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: General Newbold i dont scam, i cant be arsed, i would love to scam, but it does seem too much effort!
but the only people who moan about scammers are people who are scammed
people need to learn to read
people who are ****ed off are those people who are forced with line after line of crap thrown at them in every trade channel, trade local
no ones complaing about the fools who fall for it but the volume of crap we have to put up with,
makes normal trading harder or more time consuming
............................... You Don't Need No Reason Or A Three Piece Suit To Argue The Truth ............................... |

Delphi Grendalus
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Delphi Grendalus on 08/05/2009 11:24:59
Originally by: General Newbold i dont scam, i cant be arsed, i would love to scam, but it does seem too much effort!
Thank you, it is always nice to see someone who understands the sheer dedication we scammers have to apply to make next to nothing. According to one person who was assualting me in local he makes a billion every morning in under an hour! It takes me roughly 7 hours worth of spamming to make a billion. If I put the effort and (if CCP listens to me) skills into scamming then I should be rewarded at least as well as this guy, 1B an hour.
Do you even realise how many times I have to reset my egg timer an hour? Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK. |

David Caldera
Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:24:00 -
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I'd rather have CCP give us some much needed communication skills before giving scamming attention. First of all, they should put in these skills:
- Idiocy - High speed trolling - Smacktalk (Allows the operation of smacktalk generators, broadcasting obscenities about your target and his relatives in local) - Smackships David Caldera |

General Newbold
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:30:00 -
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send me some scamming tips! i havent even seen a billion and i need it in my life!
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EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus It requires way to much time for too little rewards, it is also a lot more risky then ANY OTHER profession in EVE. If just one of the people who mails me death threats decides to carry through, I could be made literally DEAD IRL and although I have a twin brother I definitely do not have any clones!
I propose the following changes to this, the most noblest and hardest of all professions:
1. New Skill: Scamming. Training them lets you hide one decimal per level on a contract. This would let my 950k invul field 2's really look like 950k, but actually still be 950M.
2. New Skill: Scam Projection. Training this allows your contract to pop up, maximised across the screen of 100 people per level. I'm sick of being blocked in local, let me THROW my contract into peoples faces so they get the message that they should be buying MY goods.
3. New Skill: Wallet Syphon. Let me slowly drain the wallets of everyone in local, say 1000isk per person per second. I mean their money is just going to be mine eventually anyway right? This would also help cure the local scam spam and help to ensure people spread out across the galaxy more.
When will CCP finally give us hardworking scammers the break we so rightfully deserve?
I endorse this product and/or service.
This is an issue the PMS (those grouchy people who fly to iceland) really need to raise, preferably before *that time of the month*.
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EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: David Caldera - High speed trolling
Also, GROUND FLOOR IN AN EPIC SUGGESTION THREAD.
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Sjobba
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:34:00 -
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I suggest the OP be confined to Jita 4-4, the local channel permanently pinned fullscreen, her abilities to block, chat and make contracts removed.
That would be about as fair to her as any of her original suggestions would be to the rest of us.
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General Newbold
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:35:00 -
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also the 1 thing i have forgot to mention is this, and a answer would be fab!
lets say i did the 1mill as 999,999,999 trick! (not sure if there should be 1 less 0)
how many people with that much isk are there.........as surely most people wouldnt have the isk to do the transaction......and the people with this isk, surely cant fall for it........do they!
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Sjobba
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: General Newbold also the 1 thing i have forgot to mention is this, and a answer would be fab!
lets say i did the 1mill as 999,999,999 trick! (not sure if there should be 1 less 0)
how many people with that much isk are there.........as surely most people wouldnt have the isk to do the transaction......and the people with this isk, surely cant fall for it........do they!
Stupid people buy ISK. Stupid people fall for scams. That is why these scams keep working.
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David Caldera
Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: General Newbold also the 1 thing i have forgot to mention is this, and a answer would be fab!
lets say i did the 1mill as 999,999,999 trick! (not sure if there should be 1 less 0)
how many people with that much isk are there.........as surely most people wouldnt have the isk to do the transaction......and the people with this isk, surely cant fall for it........do they!
Unfortunately the general consensus amongst people is that they do. The real problem isn't the scams, it's the fact that everyone does it and spams local with them, effectively flooding all honest contracts and bringing the contract system every minute to being a platform nobody but the scammers will use.
Ofcourse there are people that fall for those scams, be it by accident or stupidity, but that is not the real problem. David Caldera |

Delphi Grendalus
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: David Caldera
Originally by: General Newbold also the 1 thing i have forgot to mention is this, and a answer would be fab!
lets say i did the 1mill as 999,999,999 trick! (not sure if there should be 1 less 0)
how many people with that much isk are there.........as surely most people wouldnt have the isk to do the transaction......and the people with this isk, surely cant fall for it........do they!
Unfortunately the general consensus amongst people is that they do. The real problem isn't the scams, it's the fact that everyone does it and spams local with them, effectively flooding all honest contracts and bringing the contract system every minute to being a platform nobody but the scammers will use.
Ofcourse there are people that fall for those scams, be it by accident or stupidity, but that is not the real problem.
I've made many suggestions on fixing this issue, but everyone just thinks I'm trolling. That's just the cross I have to carry for having such a brilliant mind I guess. Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK. |

Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:41:00 -
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I would like to point out there is a difference to real scamming and contract spamming. Its not 'scamming' so much as it is..... And I just realised who posted this... Damn you Delphi!! Damn you!!!!
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Alphina DeAmmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:43:00 -
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The infamous Delphi Grendalus. You should be careful with all the death-threats you get, I'd honestly get in touch with my local law enforcement if I were you.
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cartmanjr
Amarr Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:44:00 -
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don't forget about the anti-scamming skills which will need to be made 
i can't think of any names for what the skills could be called ^^ maybe some of you can?
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:45:00 -
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Thread has potential.
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Abyss Wraith
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:46:00 -
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I thought everyone knew that your not suppose to trust anyone in EvE. Does that mean their alot of stupid ppl that play?
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.05.08 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Abyss Wraith Does that mean their alot of stupid ppl that play?
I'm gonna go with yes.
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