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Olleybear
I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:12:00 -
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Freggan wrote:Very easily understood and that means more people who play eve will get it 
Thanks for pointing that out.
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Precisely why I had an objection to Issler's raving about in game = IRL. Its crap
Issler is pointing out specifically what happened out of game. Now, if both what happens in game and out of game appear to be the same, it looks like solid proof of what Issler is claiming to me. Looks cut and dry to me.
When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
Shian Yang
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:15:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Precisely why I had an objection to Issler's raving about in game = IRL. Its crap
Greetings capsuleer,
What happened to the red bars?
Regards,
Shian Yang
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Shian Yang
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:18:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Looks cut and dry to me.
Greetings capsuleer Olleybear,
It would be reasonably cut and dry to say some capsuleers may be sociopathic and exhibit those tendencies in New Eden. It would be foolish to say a capsuleer acts like a sociopath in New Eden and therefore they are a sociopath outside of it.
Regards,
Shian Yang
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Olleybear
I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:19:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote: It would be foolish to say a capsuleer acts like a sociopath in New Eden and therefore they are a sociopath outside of it.
Which is exactly what I said previously. Glad we agree.
When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:11:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Nobody is saying that sociopaths don't play eve, but there are quite a few people insinuating exactly what you say here, that everyone who shoots another player is a sociopath.
Thats good we can agree on this. Now just one little step further.
Wait a Goon agrees that anyone that shoots anyone is a sociopath?[/quote]
No, I said that
Quote:there are quite a few people insinuating exactly what you say here, that everyone who shoots another player is a sociopath.
This part i just quoted is a fact. I'm willing to bet that there are only a handful of people who are RL sociopaths in EVE.
Like was mentioned earlier in the thread, would it be okay to insist that those people who cosplay as Stormtroopers and other Imperial officers are real life fascists? |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:12:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Shian Yang wrote: It would be foolish to say a capsuleer acts like a sociopath in New Eden and therefore they are a sociopath outside of it.
Which is exactly what I said previously. Glad we agree.
If this is what you were saying all along, then you might want to take some lessons on how to better get your point across through text. |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:24:00 -
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Andrey Wartooth wrote:
If this is what you were saying all along, then you might want to take some lessons on how to better get your point across through text.
olleybear wrote:Does this mean that everyone who pirates in game waits at the exit of a grocery store to beat up old ladies and take their groceries? Of course not.
That is from my very first post in this thread which was even copied by another pilot and reposted again in its entirety. Perhaps its not the text I am typing but your reading comprehension.
When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:32:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
If this is what you were saying all along, then you might want to take some lessons on how to better get your point across through text.
olleybear wrote:Does this mean that everyone who pirates in game waits at the exit of a grocery store to beat up old ladies and take their groceries? Of course not. That is from my very first post in this thread which was even copied by another pilot and reposted again in its entirety. Perhaps its not the text I am typing but your reading comprehension.
Quote:Take away consequences for a persons actions and they will become who they really are.
You also said this though, which to me at least, means that while a person may not actually kill people in real life, if they do it in game, they must at least *want* to do it IRL. |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:36:00 -
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Andrey Wartooth wrote:
You also said this though, which to me at least, means that while a person may not actually kill people in real life, if they do it in game, they must at least *want* to do it IRL.
And if you want to single out individual sentences and not read the entire post, you can make it look like a person is saying the exact opposite of what they mean. The real life media does it to people all the time too.
When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
Mythrandier
Dracos Dozen
Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:16:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Malkavians are my second favourite race... I agree they are pretty awesome... But sometime I feel like ripping stuff to shreds and I love Gangrels for it. Ill go for a Caitiff :) I played one who had Vicissutide, Potence, Celerity I think she was. I just remember the first one. I had FUN with that.
Assamite all the way for me  |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:09:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:
Issler is pointing out specifically what happened out of game. Now, if both what happens in game and out of game appear to be the same, it looks like solid proof of what Issler is claiming to me. Looks cut and dry to me.
look at the first part of the quote not the political BS thats the rest
Quote:I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well.
So youre willing to admit youre a psychopath in real life because you shoot people in a video game then we can discount you, but I know thats not true for me or most other ppl here
Shian Yang wrote:
Greetings capsuleer,
What happened to the red bars?
Regards,
Shian Yang
They all got reset today.. I dont know why but Ill be fixing that again
Olleybear wrote:Shian Yang wrote: It would be foolish to say a capsuleer acts like a sociopath in New Eden and therefore they are a sociopath outside of it.
Which is exactly what I said previously. Glad we agree.
ah cool then you agree that Issler is foolish for having said that
Glad we agree.
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1
Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.05.11 07:34:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Malkavians are my second favourite race... I agree they are pretty awesome... But sometime I feel like ripping stuff to shreds and I love Gangrels for it. Ill go for a Caitiff :) I played one who had Vicissutide, Potence, Celerity I think she was. I just remember the first one. I had FUN with that. Assamite all the way for me
They were fun too. Man, this makes me long for WoD tho htats years off yet, I hope they dont go with the pay real money to unlock abilities thing they were talking about in that CCP pamphlet. That would be stupid
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1
Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Vulix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:21:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Yes, we've seen this thread hundreds of times but dunno how many ppl know this came from an elected CSM Issler Dainze wrote:
Issler
No offense... well a little.. but you also said the rather insane quote of how what you do in game show what you are IRL. I think ppl should listen to you when you get less crazy. Or help. Quote:I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well. Never has that been demonstrated so successfully in the alliance panel this year at Fanfest.
When the truth lube is applied in large quantities folks show you who they really are.
Issler I pointed this out, a few posts later, got this reply: Issler Dainze wrote:
I believe that and I think we've seen some recent events to make my case.
So not only IS there insanity, its still there and we voted this insanity in? Yeah the CSM system TOTALLY works guys. We just put a person that believes the stuff you do in game reflects who you are in real life (IE One of those "EVE is full of sociopaths" ppl) and put them at the same table as CCP. Thats worrying to me.
Actually, Issler is right. A lot of social psychology literature points towards people extending their real-world personalities into the virtual world. Some exploration occurs online that doesn't in real life, but it is within the boundaries of an individual's real-world conscious thoughts. Look up Sherry Turkle for more
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
Reckless Ambition
321
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:25:00 -
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Please keep your personal grudges with individual CSM member/s private.
Or, if you absolutely must, then post on your main, so you can get the trolling you deserve.
("Ppl" is not a word, by the way.)
There is no Dana Goon, there is only BoB. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
2529
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Posted - 2012.08.05 01:59:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:Please keep your personal grudges with individual CSM member/s private.
Or, if you absolutely must, then post on your main, so you can get the trolling you deserve.
("Ppl" is not a word, by the way.)
Just like how you keep your own personal grudges private on the forums rite? Pathetic.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:26:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Olleybear wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: We just put a person that believes the stuff you do in game reflects who you are in real life (IE One of those "EVE is full of sociopaths" ppl) and put them at the same table as CCP.
Something for you to ponder. Give someone power and/or money and they will become who they really are. More to the point. Take away consequences for a persons actions and they will become who they really are. I have seen enough in game, on internet forums, and in real life to know just how true the above things are. Does this mean that everyone who pirates in game waits at the exit of a grocery store to beat up old ladies and take their groceries? Of course not. Yet you can watch news anywhere in the world and see all of the nasty stuff people do to one another daily and how sociopathic behavior is the norm in real life. Is it really a stretch to think more than a few sociopaths in real life play Eve? No, and to deny this is to deny logic, common sense, and what is happening in real life daily. People are nasty creatures. So are you also the type of person who believes that sandbox games like Grand Theft Auto turn people in murderous psychopaths?
There is a difference there, in GTA you know you are playing against NPC's, in EVE you know you are pissing in another persons corn flakes. I've had some pretty weird conversations with some of these mission crashers, they don't seem to be all there. Lots of desperate attention seeking and need to **** someone off, sort of like they get their head stuck in the toilet daily and have a need to get back at the world online from their anonymous safety. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2012.08.09 06:10:00 -
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yes... Issler is a worthy Malkavian.
Lyrrashae wrote:Please keep your personal grudges with individual CSM member/s private.
Or, if you absolutely must, then post on your main, so you can get the trolling you deserve.
("Ppl" is not a word, by the way.)
This is my main, get over yourself
But I followed the polotice for years before joined.... yeah Ill pretend thayts my story.
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2012.08.09 06:13:00 -
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Vulix wrote:
Actually, Issler is right. A lot of social psychology literature points towards people extending their real-world personalities into the virtual world. Some exploration occurs online that doesn't in real life, but it is within the boundaries of an individual's real-world conscious thoughts. Look up Sherry Turkle for more
So youre saying EVE isa theraputic place for ppl with ASPD?
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation
Deadly Unknown
415
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Posted - 2012.08.09 06:15:00 -
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Most sociopaths in real life end up in politics or law. And politics draws heavily from the legal profession.
Et tu CSM?
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2012.08.09 06:25:00 -
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This thread has just earned Issler Dainze my vote in the next election. Thanks! |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Of Mordor
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Posted - 2012.08.09 06:27:00 -
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To know how good you are you must know your dark side, by role-playing evil you can understand the thinking of the dark side. We all have it, you can not deny it. As a warrior of light in real life I like to exercise my mind by being as evil as I can in social game like EVE. Its fun and it doesn't hurt anyone, just remember its a game. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8960
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Posted - 2012.08.09 06:36:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Does anonymity and zero consequences allow people to become who they really are? There's a vast yawning chasm between Gǣallow to becomeGǥ and GǣtellGǥ. The problem is that a lot of nutters are adamant that the latter must be the caseGǪ
There is also an equally yawning chasm between GÇ£allow to becomeGÇ¥ and simply GÇ£becomeGÇ¥, and the inability to distinguish between the two is in and of itself a pathology of some sort.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2012.08.09 06:42:00 -
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Merovee wrote:To know how good you are you must know your dark side, by role-playing evil you can understand the thinking of the dark side. We all have it, you can not deny it. As a warrior of light in real life I like to exercise my mind by being as evil as I can in social game like EVE. Its fun and it doesn't hurt anyone, just remember its a game.
you proved my point that Issler is crazy because her concerns are completely wrong. Thanks.
By her definions how you asct in game is how yuod act out of it.
Tippia wrote:Olleybear wrote:Does anonymity and zero consequences allow people to become who they really are? There's a vast yawning chasm between Gǣallow to becomeGǥ and GǣtellGǥ. The problem is that a lot of nutters are adamant that the latter must be the caseGǪ There is also an equally yawning chasm between Gǣallow to becomeGǥ and simply GǣbecomeGǥ, and the inability to distinguish between the two is in and of itself a pathology of some sort.
Theres an even more vast yawning chasm between real life and video game and sone nutters cant see that either
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
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