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QBall
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Posted - 2003.06.21 03:05:00 -
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As far as I'm aware, GM's warped m0o corp members to the Obe/p3en-e Solar Systems. So far from reports in the system m0o pummeled 2 cruisers right after the GM's warped them there.
Shortly after that everyone in those systems disappeared in fear of m0o. So not only did the GM's mess up the game for the 2 pilots that m0o destroyed as a result of their moving m0o.
But I was also hurt because all my prospective targets ran away. Now how am I suposed to Demand money from locked down ships when they are all gone because m0o showed up.
Seriously this special Anti-m0o stuff against m0o has to stop. I mean come on, first battleships, now "wormholing" them to another system, why don't you warmhole me some money.
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.06.21 03:22:00 -
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Yep i totally agree, i know 3 people lost cruisers without even knowing we came in, thanks to GM Regius moving all of m0o corp there, even the ones asleep in the station!
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.21 03:29:00 -
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Hi,
I liked the GM BS action against you, but this is just crazy.
Would like to hear GM's roleplaying explaination of this.
Bye...
Edited by: Molly on 21/06/2003 03:32:08
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Lola
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Posted - 2003.06.21 03:30:00 -
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I think this kinda of sucks if it's true. No matter how much you hate m0o wormholing them across the galaxy with no explaination for lack of a better term sucks. I don't play a pirate but if I did I certainly wouldn't want to be warped across the galaxy because the powers that be felt like it. If CCP and the GMs feel what m0o is doing is wrong they need to fix the problem with in-game mechanics. I've been the target of m0o in the past and I didn't like it but I certainly didn't want the GMs to teleport them away. That just isn't fun or 'realistic'. There need to be rules and it seems like there aren't any right now. How can we play if the rules are constantly changing? This reminds me of kid games where the older kid changes the rules to win. I'd like to hear a dev's thoughts on this one or maybe Pann.
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j0rt
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Posted - 2003.06.21 03:45:00 -
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hehe its true. I wouldnt have minded if i had anything to do with it, but i was afk and had been helping a mate haul some gear and help him mine for his battleship. When i came back to the pc after sleeping i found myself in the middle of nowhere with 6 mining lasers and 7 cargo expanders on. How i am supposed to make the trip back across high sec space with a spanking top speed of 60m/s i dont know :)
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2003.06.21 03:47:00 -
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ok, that is ***, stop it ccp.
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Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2003.06.21 03:51:00 -
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I'm really getting to the point where I want to seek membership in M0o, hell they the only people having any real fun if you ask me.
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
QBall
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Posted - 2003.06.21 03:51:00 -
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I'm sorry to say it but for some reason I think the next thing the GM's are going to do is just /kill m0o Corp I mean this is rediculous.
It's one thing to roleplay bringing in battleships, but it's another thing to warp them accross the galaxy, for no good reason.
How about you just knock it off already GM's. This is after all a PVP game.
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-QBall
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:02:00 -
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worrying and lame...
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Commissar Gaunt
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:16:00 -
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does nobody else see this as a chance to have a go at that battleship? he must want us too he told us he was unarmed! lol
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:16:00 -
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CCP is definitely handling this wrong... I'm getting ****ed off now :/ Unless they magically provide some really good ingame explanation for this bullcrap, ARRGHH. I'm not in m0o, I've never been attacked by them... But this is just ridiculous.. The guys in m0o paid for the game and now they just get transported across space just for playing it?
Oh and of course all their stuff in hangars etc just got left behind... No warning. Just all of a sudden lots of different people get teleported across space.. Gee I wonder if it was superaliens at work ?
If I want to go around slaughtering other players then CCP shouldn't be the ones stopping me.. At least not stupidly. The least they can do is provide an event.. Making it part of the eve world. Stupid Stupid Stupid.
-****ed off customer
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L33L00
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:29:00 -
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Another ****ed off customer:
I am not in M0o or do I like what they do to the noob population in general, however I feel that this was handled in the worst sort of way. To arbitrarily wormhole evey member of that corp into an unsuspecting sector was disruptive, un-predictable and short sighted. For the GMs to interfere in the normal operations of the game in this fashion is sending a signal to the user population in general that if you get too good, you will get kicked down by the GMs and to hell with the consequences that it may have on the rest of the players.
*grumpy*
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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:32:00 -
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You know they may have been doing you a favor.
I have heard that they are fixing to finish turning on the sec rating and putting in the rest of the guns on all the gates. In certan regions even the 0.0 gates had (they were removed last patch) guns.
What this means is that even in 0.0 systems you would be constantly attacked by any NPC factions you have a neg rating too. This also means that you would no long be able to dock at any base who you have a neg rating too, and that the base guns would fire on you.
By moving you out of danger they have infact done you a a service.
The have given you a fresh start. Personally I wonder why they are being so nice too you.
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:43:00 -
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Ok, so they change rules in the middle of the game, but don't return our faction to 0 so we can play with the new rules? You must be one of the gms saying that, however i play on test, and I haven't seen anything like that. But hey, we can all dream.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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SOHAIL
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:44:00 -
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I got a question here, DO GM HAVE RIGHT TO SPOIL OUR GAME???
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Wil Rufus
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:51:00 -
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Although I don't like moos style of play, and have some reservations about how 'honest' their gameplay is I have some major reservations about the GM's interfering.
The GM's should decide one or the other:
a. that moo is cheating in the game, and remove them.
b. that they may be unsporting in their gameplay, but everything they do is within the 'rules' and then leave the hell alone to do their thing and let players resolve the situation.
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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2003.06.21 04:53:00 -
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Read the game info or the FAQ, they are not changing anything thay are applying what has been stated from day one.
This is not new, eveyone has know about this happing for months.
Some people just choose to ignore it and fubared their Avatars.
Oh I agree with you, the GMs moving you out of the mess you put yourselves into and into safe waters where you will be able start fresh was a bad move.
You guys must not talk, Jort knew this was coming. Ih jumped on the Dev server before the last patch, thats why he got out of Gisleres so quickly. (before the patch hit)
Also I am only offering a reasion for the GMs to have done it.
Say you were jort and you were in Gis. You log on and leave the base. Instantly you are targeted by the base guns and they begin to fire on you. You try to dock but only recive the message "Docking denied". By this time several NPC navy battleships have arrived and are also firing on you. You try to run but are webbed and unable to warp. You watch in horror as you ship id destroyed simply because you are now in the wrong place at the wrong time.
What is the best thing that could happen to you? The best thing is for the GMs to move you (Against your will and without your knowledge) out to a place where when you log on you will not be instantly destroied by the system's defences.
Edited by: Athren Soulsteal on 21/06/2003 05:26:03
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.06.21 05:03:00 -
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Ok i felt that for the benefit of some users I would make this perfectly clear and simple.
THE GMS DID NOT MOVE THEM AS A FAVOUR, IT WAS TO GET THEM OUT OF PASSARI SO PEOPLE COULD PASS. INFACT MOST OF THEM ARE BACK THERE OR HEADED BACK THERE NOW.
Ok all understand?
ONCE MORE THE GMS DID NOT MOVE AND M0o MEMBERS AS FAVOURS OR TO BE NICE OR TO GIVE US NEW STARTS SOMEWHERE - THEY MOVED US TO GET US OUT OF PASSARI.
Thx for reading and have a nice day!
Cya
Stavvy
OK LAST TIME FOR THE CLINICALLY DENSE, THE GM TALKED TO US, AND HE DIDNT MOVE US SO FAR, INFACT BARELY OUT OF EMPIRE SPACE, THE CHANGES YOU DESCRIBE ARE NOT ON TEST SERVER AND NEVER HAVE BEEN, PLS STOP SPREADING LIES ATHRAN SOUL STEAL.
THANKS
Edited by: Stavros on 21/06/2003 06:07:28
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.06.21 05:20:00 -
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Maybe they had a reason.
Maybe it was not by design.
All I have heard is some claims by M0o and some other guy.
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Zuul
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Posted - 2003.06.21 05:31:00 -
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Last time I checked, this was CCP's game and not m0o's, although they act as though it were their own personal property. We all pay for the privelage of using CCP's server, and I have little sympathy for the complaints of those who spend all their time trying to ruin the gaming experience of others.
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Thalion Turval
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Posted - 2003.06.21 05:37:00 -
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Instead of doing something creative to keep pirates in check and still let them have fun too the GM's go and do something like this. Unbelievable...and unacceptable.
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Morleidr
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Posted - 2003.06.21 05:49:00 -
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If true, it breaks my heart. Please let it not the whole story. Otherwise:
Infantile, juvenile, and unprofessional. OMG GJ CCP.
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ShadowStrike
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Posted - 2003.06.21 06:08:00 -
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This event just shows how little CCP knows about how to administer a game. I am sick of the fact that the GMĘs have now directly interfered twice in something that is none of their business. To anyone that has lost ships to M0o in Passari / Mara the last weeką. For that matter the last 2 weeksą youĘre an idiot! There are thousands of other systems in this freaking game, either go another way, or donĘt go there. IĘm sick of people complaining about getting killed by M0o, when if you take 2 seconds to look at either the boards or local chatą you will notice exactly where they are. I am tired of newbies complaining about their gaming experience being ruined by the actions of pirates. The whole fun of this game is knowing that you are not 100% safe anywhere. You take risks merely by leaving the station. You should not take anything with you that you are not willing to lose. This game is PVP based, not just a side feature. This game works on our basic instinct of Fight or Flight. If you donĘt have the power to fight, then run away. If your getting attacked by M0o in one system, donĘt go there in the future, move to another point of the Eve universeą hell there are 5000 systems in this game and only 30 members of M0o. 99% of the time you will not run into them, so donĘt complain when you doą or when you run into them more than once. People still going through Mara / Passari or Obe need to have your brain examined. You are just asking to be killed by being there. M0o is operating under totally legit tactics and using totally legal weapons and skills. If they didnĘt want these tactics to be used, the devs have ample time to fix this with a patch. So why instead of applying patches to fix the problems, do they instead interfere directly in the game to unwillingly move an entire corporation? If they didnĘt want a chokepoint, why create one? I know the devs have the ability to create alternative gates, so why not do it? Allow a work around if you donĘt want a blockade of the only jump gate to the outer regions. I do not support GMĘs who interfere in games. Your role is to help out those that are in trouble with gaming bugs, not to deliberately attack corporations for doing what this game allows. PVP is part of this game, so deal with it! There is no candy land (Thank god!) so if you want to live in peace and happinessą This game is based on the conflict and interaction of HUMANS, not NPCs! This is a step away from the standard MMORPG genre, because you no longer will advance by killing mobs of npcs for hours on end. The only way to get ahead in this game is to work together in a corporation, soloist are not going to go very far. These issues should be dealt with by other players not GMs. Financially I understand the strain that M0o puts on the accounting aspect of the game, financially canceling the accounts of all m0o members would be cheaper than loosing hundreds of newbie accounts. However if they ever even considered doing thatą I would quit based on principle. GMs should not dictate how the game is played, your role is to see problems in the code and get them fixed, not to screw with those playing as the game is meant to be played! I support M0o for there actions and livening up the game. I hope the GMs learn that this kind of interaction is NOT what they are supposed to do.
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Pann
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Posted - 2003.06.21 06:36:00 -
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We will allow this thread to remain open, but only if the posters will respect the rules of this forum and not turn this into a flaming trollfest full of obscenities.
This matter is under investigation and at this time we do not have all the details. When we do, we will issue an official statement.
Eve Community Manager
[email protected]
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Laarz Kaledon
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Posted - 2003.06.21 06:40:00 -
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"People still going through Mara / Passari or Obe need to have your brain examined. You are just asking to be killed by being there."
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Ok, well that's two gateways to the best ore and loot in the game blocked almost 24/7. Almost always during primetime when most get to play after work in the USA.
Ok, those 2 gateways to good ore and loot are blocked by people with battleships and high powered cruisers that the average player does not have at this point...
How about the 3rd way out of forge and lonetrek headed to Sing Liason? Is that blocked too by beta players with a year to 2 years experience on the average player?
So, possibly 2 out 3 gateways to decent ore and loot is blocked all the time. Hmm, would I be stupid to think that the only other exit out of the newb areas to Sing Liason is blocked too?
What it will boil down to is if Moo or other pirate groups are hurting CCP's wallet and the beginning of a game that could be the Greatest Game of the Year. Are enough people saying when they quit, that they quit cause they lost the 600 zydrine they had mined for 2 days?
If it's hurting the amount of player's that stay signed up for this service then CCP would be wise if they want their dreams to come true of a financially successful mmorpg to address this situation by whatever means is effective.
That's really all that matters at launch... the generation of dollars to continue the functioning of the servers and the business model. So, don't sit around wondering why CCP does this or does that.. it's about survival at this point and I don't blame em a bit.
***This is not the opinion of Novatech Enterprises, but the opinion of the owner of the player character, Laarz Kaledon***
Edited by: Laarz Kaledon on 21/06/2003 06:41:05
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.06.21 06:41:00 -
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This matter is under investigation and at this time we do not have all the details. When we do, we will issue an official statement.
Eve Community Manager
[email protected]
CCP
I know ccp knows about this, not much ya can do about the lead gm moving all of m0o out of the sector. I don't think much will happen to be honest, we had a gm move me earlier today, because i was in the same spot, I think the lead gm was just enforcing what his cronie did.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Trinity Eve
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Posted - 2003.06.21 06:45:00 -
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Please all understand that mOo aren't roleplaying, as a matter of fact they are intentionally trying to destroy gaming experience of others.
On top of that they are intentionally trying to get in some kind of conflict with GMs.
They are doing it in big groups and as soon as something happens they jump here and whine like little piggies.
mOo if you don't like it here don't forget that you don't have to be here.
Take your whining attitude where you come from.
Good luck too, as you'll never found game as good as this one.
Oh and by the way, if i were GM I would have sent you to Jove space where only option to comeback would have been to self destruct your pecious little ship and your pods.
Be very thankfull to GMs for not doing that.
And get ready.
As every day is passing more and more people are getting stronger and stronger.
Soon you'll learn first hand how it is to be griefed.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.06.21 06:45:00 -
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Very well said Shadowstrike. ARRGH. Inarticulate with irritation. Go read what Shadowstrike said again.. Anyway.. Sorry if I seem slightly upset :P haven't slept. Anyway the facts aren't in yet. Well. I hope they aren't.. *growl*
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ABNTanker
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Posted - 2003.06.21 06:51:00 -
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All I did was quote a few lines from a movie and edited the swear words and you had to delete it?
Looks like we need a player run site to get the other side of the story/posts.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.06.21 06:56:00 -
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Hehe she deleted mine too :P But I deserved it. Lack of sleep :P Still yeah we need like a seperate forum where we can swear and be naughty...
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