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Sgmorris Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.09 12:29:00 - [1] Edited by: Sgmorris on 09/05/2009 12:32:12 For People who can not log on every 24hrs we need a longer Longer Training Que then 24hrs i my self will be moving in the coming months where i might be away from eve for 30-60 days as i get settled in my new home new job no area. short of long training skills that can take up that amount of time what would be nice , and i bet pushing it but a year long planer for training skills but i think that might be asking to much of the eve-gangsters who want all you eve-crack addicts to log on every day and have no life ;) This Game is full of adults can you eve-programmers, go more on a adult base plan and adults real life ;) thank you i will sit back and watch for outher players feed back and ideas ;) {Cap-Kills} Carrier's 8 / 0 Dreadnought's 1 / 0
Lothros Andastar Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.09 12:48:00 - [2] Originally by: Sgmorris Edited by: Sgmorris on 09/05/2009 12:32:12 For People who can not log on every 24hrs we need a longer Longer Training Que then 24hrs i my self will be moving in the coming months where i might be away from eve for 30-60 days as i get settled in my new home new job no area. Guess what? That is your problem. If you cant log on for 30 days, set a really long skill to train.
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar The Naked Peas Group Plc.	Posted - 2009.05.09 14:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Lothros Andastar Originally by: Sgmorris Edited by: Sgmorris on 09/05/2009 12:32:12 For People who can not log on every 24hrs we need a longer Longer Training Que then 24hrs i my self will be moving in the coming months where i might be away from eve for 30-60 days as i get settled in my new home new job no area. Guess what? That is your problem. If you cant log on for 30 days, set a really long skill to train. agreed. Battlecruisers 5, (racial) Battleships 5, Cruise missiles 5, amongts(sp) many MANY others. Alternatevely, get a friend to sort out your skill training.
Valandril Caldari Ex-Mortis	Posted - 2009.05.09 14:05:00 - [4] Originally by: FullMetal Basilisk Alternatevely, get a friend to sort out your skill training. Which violates eula. Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal Lemme go for that pixels and you got a beer - val
Tsubutai	Posted - 2009.05.09 14:10:00 - [5] It would be really nice if there was a web-based interface for the skill queue, so that you could manage it when you can't log in for whatever reason (curse you, gainful employment!).
Sgmorris Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.09 14:18:00 - [6] Originally by: Lothros Andastar Originally by: Sgmorris Edited by: Sgmorris on 09/05/2009 12:32:12 For People who can not log on every 24hrs we need a longer Longer Training Que then 24hrs i my self will be moving in the coming months where i might be away from eve for 30-60 days as i get settled in my new home new job no area. Guess what? That is your problem. If you cant log on for 30 days, set a really long skill to train. not every one lives in there mommies basement. but a long stream QUe would help you keep your goals on where you would like to be in 30-60 one year time then wasting 30 days on a skill you really don't need or on your yearly goal's this is a Skill based game and we need the tools for people who 1) Cant play as much 2) Have a Life 3) Play the game for what it is a GAME not a Job eve- help us out {Cap-Kills} Carrier's 8 / 0 Dreadnought's 1 / 0
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.05.09 14:27:00 - [7] If you can't invest 5 minutes per day to sort your skills, you should consider quitting the game anyways. Why pay for something you're not playing? -------- Ideas for: Mining
Valandril Caldari Ex-Mortis	Posted - 2009.05.09 14:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Abrazzar If you can't invest 5 minutes per day to sort your skills, you should consider quitting the game anyways. Why pay for something you're not playing? You don't even need those 5 minutes daily, when i was planning to be out of eve for 40days i've simply trained carriers to lvl5. Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal Lemme go for that pixels and you got a beer - val
Caldari 5 Amarr The Element Syndicate Black Mesa Project	Posted - 2009.05.09 14:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Tsubutai It would be really nice if there was a web-based interface for the skill queue Agreed, Net at home has died and is down for 3 to 5 working days, and the local NetCafe` doesn't have eve installed. :(
Devils Errand	Posted - 2009.05.09 15:36:00 - [10] Originally by: Valandril Originally by: Abrazzar If you can't invest 5 minutes per day to sort your skills, you should consider quitting the game anyways. Why pay for something you're not playing? You don't even need those 5 minutes daily, when i was planning to be out of eve for 40days i've simply trained carriers to lvl5. Getting to the point of carriers (or any) lvl 5 train requires a bunch of short trains that extend beyond the 24 hours but under 18 usually. Certainly under 30-60.
Lear Hepburn Caldari Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent	Posted - 2009.05.09 16:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Devils Errand Originally by: Valandril Originally by: Abrazzar If you can't invest 5 minutes per day to sort your skills, you should consider quitting the game anyways. Why pay for something you're not playing? You don't even need those 5 minutes daily, when i was planning to be out of eve for 40days i've simply trained carriers to lvl5. Getting to the point of carriers (or any) lvl 5 train requires a bunch of short trains that extend beyond the 24 hours but under 18 usually. Certainly under 30-60. That would require a thing called planning. Try it some time.
Valandril Caldari Ex-Mortis	Posted - 2009.05.09 16:14:00 - [12] Originally by: Devils Errand Originally by: Valandril Originally by: Abrazzar If you can't invest 5 minutes per day to sort your skills, you should consider quitting the game anyways. Why pay for something you're not playing? You don't even need those 5 minutes daily, when i was planning to be out of eve for 40days i've simply trained carriers to lvl5. Getting to the point of carriers (or any) lvl 5 train requires a bunch of short trains that extend beyond the 24 hours but under 18 usually. Certainly under 30-60. So during 18 days of vacations you can't find 5 minutes with internet cafe/laptop to change skils ? Then apparently life > eve and just suck it up. Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal Lemme go for that pixels and you got a beer - val
Lear Hepburn Caldari Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent	Posted - 2009.05.09 16:24:00 - [13] The only addition to the current training queue I can think of being acceptable would be if your character continued to add SP into the skill you are already training. For example, if you started training Battleships I and didn't change at all then your character would train to level V by himself. Once you reach level V then you stop training. This would create a buffer for those who really can't make it to change skills for some reason and makes sense as I don't see why your character would stop learning until you tell him to. That said, I am against chages to the training queue in general, but see this as an acceptable sop to the wailing "MOAR QQ!" crowd.
Tag Heuer Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.09 16:32:00 - [14] I would like a 48 hour queue. This would cover the weekends. Sometimes it's nicer to kick off a multitude of skill training rather than a single one which usually lasts longer than a couple of days (LV4/5 for eg.) anyway.
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.09 17:57:00 - [15] Edited by: Trimutius III on 09/05/2009 17:58:47 2-3 day skills isn't hard to find for weekends... and multitude of short skills will end up soon even without longer queue... And CCP said that they want u actually PLAY the game not set a big queue and go away... They didn't want to implement queue for years though many people demaded it... And now when u get at least 24 hours u want more and more... CCP will never do that and they said many times why they don't want long queue... So i doubt that this suggestion will go... So yes somebody who actually plays a game have advantage. Sounds unfair? It your problem... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Sgmorris Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.09 19:48:00 - [16] They will if there's an out cry for it. and with people who don't care keep posting negative to the people who have lives and would benefit by longer que timers then you high school kids still living home with mommies and daddies who pay for there game experience... 24hrs is not cutting for us adults week long que would be even better then 24hrs you can set you planer for the week get in your ship and know on Friday's you set your next weeks training.. in too then you can un-dock go kill People log off go on with your life and not have to alarm clock to wake up just to turn skills. World Of warcraft is that way >>>>> for the kids this is a mans game we need adult Programs. have a good day ;) {Cap-Kills} Carrier's 8 / 0 Dreadnought's 1 / 0
Lear Hepburn Caldari Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent	Posted - 2009.05.09 20:13:00 - [17] Originally by: Sgmorris They will if there's an out cry for it. and with people who don't care keep posting negative to the people who have lives and would benefit by longer que timers then you high school kids still living home with mommies and daddies who pay for there game experience... 24hrs is not cutting for us adults week long que would be even better then 24hrs you can set you planer for the week get in your ship and know on Friday's you set your next weeks training.. in too then you can un-dock go kill People log off go on with your life and not have to alarm clock to wake up just to turn skills. World Of warcraft is that way >>>>> for the kids this is a mans game we need adult Programs. have a good day ;) Well perhaps a little more time at school wold have benefitted you. If you are posting purporting to be an adult then at least learn to spell like one and put together an argument like one. IF you knew how to use the queue you would know that you CAN set it to train for a week - you just set the final skill for more than the week you seem to want. I would like to know how you can justify that not playing the game for extended periods should allow you to benefit as much as those who do play. I have a job, one where I have to spend time away from home and from the internet at times. I manage to PLAN AHEAD using tools such as EveHQ and EveMON to allow my skill training to work as I want it to. Yes, sometimes I need to set a skill I have no immediate use for just to ensure that I lose no more SP than necessary, but that skill will become useful at some point. This method means that those annoying long skills get trained along with all the short ones I want. PS - this is a woman's game too
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.05.09 20:28:00 - [18] Edited by: Whitehound on 09/05/2009 20:31:57 I have been against this idea as I understand and respect CCP's concern. CCP is worried that a too long skill queue will keep players away from the game. However, the OP has the problem that he cannot play nor queue another skill because of connectivity issues. Further, any player who does not want to play, but who only wants to queue another skill, can do so regardless of the queue's time limit. The time limit itself will not make people play EVE more often than a generally improved EVE will. I personally do not need more than 24h, which is why I do not support it. On the other hand, it does not hurt to think about it and CCP should do the same. As long as players pay for their subscription should it not need some artificial reasoning to make players play! -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while.
Caldari 5 Amarr The Element Syndicate Black Mesa Project	Posted - 2009.05.09 20:47:00 - [19] Edited by: Caldari 5 on 09/05/2009 20:47:15 The 24hour Skill queue would be more than enough if they also implemented a web-based interface for it, even if is only improving currently trained skills (ie going from L1 to L2, or L2 to L3 etc) and not including training new skills from skillbooks.
baumjoe	Posted - 2009.05.10 01:51:00 - [20] Well if you cant log on for 5 minutes to change a skill and then log back off and go to your life maybe an mmo is not something you should be investing time in. And yes people have jobs boo hoo I work 65 hours a week and I make enough time to change my skills and if I wont be able to log on I train a long skill.
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2009.05.10 03:18:00 - [21] Real life happens, and it often happens during the day you are supposed to reset your queue. Setting it for 72 hours would allow people to encounter real life. However, a month long queue is just plain stupid, and totally removes any incentive to play. 3 days is plenty long enough to get by in case of an unforeseen problem. Any more than that kind of defeats the purpose. ____________________ CCP: Catering to the cowards of a cold, harsh universe since November, 2006.
Doctor Miyage	Posted - 2009.05.10 06:24:00 - [22] Maybe it's only because the skill queue is such a new thing to me, having just started playing this again since Apocrypha was released, but I'm finding the 24 hour skill queue to be more than useful! It's such a far cry from before, when you had to almost constantly monitor your character when training low level skills. The introduction of the 24 hour skill plan in EVE has allowed me to constantly train skills up, whether it's two dozen level I or II skills, or a week long level five. You can always be training something now, there are no deadzones. All you, as a player, have to do to ensure that your skills are training is log on at some point in the twenty-four hour period before your skill ends and add another skill to the queue. The fact that you can exceed the 24 hour period is nice, too. If I have a skill that (for some reason_ take exactly 23 hours and 59 minutes, I can add another skill to be trained directly after it. My praise goes to the 24-hour skill queue. The problem lies with the original poster, not the queue. There's no real excuse other than extended periods of travel to not be able to keep your queue constantly training something. It takes three minutes to log in and update that list. Do it while you're checking your email or arranging a playlist or something.
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.10 06:28:00 - [23] Edited by: Laechyd Eldgorn on 10/05/2009 06:33:27 Training queue is fine now. 24h is enough. If you're gone longer you should set long skill which shouldn't be a real problem with proper planning even a noobie would have at least one week skills to train. edit: Also for those real life freaks I got to say I've been pretty busy with mine lately and I still got enough time to check in once a week for 5 minutes to change a skill. Even if you would lose a weeks training in some exceptional case it's not much a problem for grown up guy isn't it?
Lexion Tibirius	Posted - 2009.05.10 08:41:00 - [24] Personally, I like the skill queue as it is, but I can see where the origonal poster's logic is coming from. I have easily a half dozen friends that are in the armed forces, and when they get deployed, they'll be away from the game for a half a year or more. If giving someone else your account info for "babysitting" purposes is really against the EULA, then that makes for a real problem. While I'm not that savy on the actual process of how the skill queue works in code, I have talked to a friend that understands it pretty well. He doesn't have a problem with the skill queue either, but in talking with him, he explained something to me that he thought would have been a better way of implementing it. He explained to me that having a skill amount, rather than a training time, would have been better. With this method, you would set a number of skills and it would simply train those skills one after the other. There would be no limit on time, but you would only be able to set a certain number of skills. Somewhere between 3-5 skills would probably be a reasonable number. That way the training time could vary greatly, and it could serve any number of purposes, from training a new skill book from L1 to L5 or setting a number of skills, with a long enough training time, that you can move, go on a business trip, get sent to the other side of the planet by your government, etc. without losing skillpoints. Lastly, on a related note, While I do understand fully that it is well within the rights of CCP (as creator, owners, and moderators of their intellectual and physical property) to design the game how they want...telling people how they should use their time on the game, when they have already purcased that time for themselves, is ethically wrong.
Kobushi OCForums	Posted - 2009.05.11 05:58:00 - [25] 1. Search the forum on how to install eve on a USB key or other portable storage device. 2. Play from any Internet connected computer. 3. What problem?
Caldari 5 Amarr The Element Syndicate Black Mesa Project	Posted - 2009.05.11 08:42:00 - [26] Originally by: Kobushi 1. Search the forum on how to install eve on a USB key or other portable storage device. 2. Play from any Internet connected computer. 3. What problem? Apart from the New increased minimum requirements that were introduced with Apocrypha, half the PCs that I have access to out of the house don't meet them. It's this line in the req's that kill it "Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers "
BlackDragon00981	Posted - 2009.05.11 09:43:00 - [27] Originally by: Caldari 5 Originally by: Kobushi 1. Search the forum on how to install eve on a USB key or other portable storage device. 2. Play from any Internet connected computer. 3. What problem? Apart from the New increased minimum requirements that were introduced with Apocrypha, half the PCs that I have access to out of the house don't meet them. It's this line in the req's that kill it "Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers " So it's CCP's fault that you haven't updated those computers in 5 years? Stop blaming CCP and start taking responsibility for yourself
Neros D	Posted - 2009.05.11 09:49:00 - [28] Only one answer. No! The 24 hour skillque is perfect, as you can within 24 hour line up a new skill, so you don't have to plan your waking hours after it. Other than that. No!
Caldari 5 Amarr The Element Syndicate Black Mesa Project	Posted - 2009.05.11 09:58:00 - [29] Originally by: BlackDragon00981 Originally by: Caldari 5 Originally by: Kobushi 1. Search the forum on how to install eve on a USB key or other portable storage device. 2. Play from any Internet connected computer. 3. What problem? Apart from the New increased minimum requirements that were introduced with Apocrypha, half the PCs that I have access to out of the house don't meet them. It's this line in the req's that kill it "Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers " So it's CCP's fault that you haven't updated those computers in 5 years? Stop blaming CCP and start taking responsibility for yourself It's the requirement for a Dedicated graphics card that is the issue, I have seen some Core2Duo Systems that don't meet the new minimum requirements due to the on-board graphics not meeting the requirements, and these systems are less than 6 months old. My Home Systems meet the requirements - and exceed them. But the random work PC/net-cafe` that I walk into to change skills may not, and in many cases do not.
LoOnY PaRk Gallente Black Nexus Corporation	Posted - 2009.05.11 14:14:00 - [30] Personally I am surprised CCP even added the skill queue and now the whiners have got what they asked they want more and more! and you know they will never stop wanting more. Bottom line if you are going to be away from the game for a long period of time just consider quitting the game and come back in a couple of months. You can't expect CCP to add features to the game just for people who are on vacation, moving house or even people who "have a life" and can't find 1 minute in there busy, hectic, chaotic life to log into eve and switch skill and if that's the case then I'm sorry to break this to you... you don't have time for video games in your life... sorry. I'd be thankful with the 24 hour skill queue and again if you know your going to be away for a long period of time then make sure you do have a long skill ready to train, and if your going away for sooo long that carrier 5 will finish then go to a friends house or go to your parents house and borrow there PC for 5 seconds and switch skills? logging into eve on a friends/work/parents/brothers pc isnt breaking EULA?

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