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Raydn James
CAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.10 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: Ringo Jeicha Blue ones are used by phone if the company is too cheap to lay seperate phone lines. Else the entire 8 wires are used in Gbit networks.
Why bother to lay seperate lines? Where i work i use the same cables for 100 computers and 100 phones. rx and tx +- for 10/100 ethernet as thats all you need. and the blue one for phone. All patched properly and you dont need 200 cables, you need 100. So i understand that.
But is the brown one aswell used when you run gb network via rj45?
I'm not sure on this one, but isn't PoE run over the brown wire in 10/100 lines ?
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Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
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Posted - 2009.05.10 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: zenia starwalker well in the hands of someone knowledgeable, your IP address can lead back to your physical address. So long anonymity.
So what about when the ISP has some little twit like me on their network, who ignores the address being assigned to me by the DHCP server, and manually assigns the router a brand spanking new IP on a slightly different subnet than the one that I was assigned?
and it ends in .0 ?!
gigglesnort.
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Korrakas
Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension
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Posted - 2009.05.10 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Adeline Grey 20 years of using the internet. Never used any sort of firewall or virus protection. Never had a single problem that was not entirely my fault, and the result of trying to illegally download software.
QFT
Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't have holidays. I don't leave the forums unattended. I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.05.10 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: zenia starwalker I work for an ISP, dont tell me it cant be done.
There is a difference between being an AOL Call Center scripted operator and someone who knows what they are talking about.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Hophmann
Cafe Quafe
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Posted - 2009.05.10 20:06:00 -
[35]
Copenhagen -> Dusseldorf -> Amsterdam -> London -> Iceland
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ZephyrLexx
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.10 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian
Originally by: zenia starwalker I work for an ISP, dont tell me it cant be done.
There is a difference between being an AOL Call Center scripted operator and someone who knows what they are talking about.
/thread
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.05.10 22:00:00 -
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so basically you are dumping stuff into the tubes, and they come out on a tier 2 tube?
how much stuff are you dumping in there
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zenia starwalker
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.10 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: zenia starwalker on 10/05/2009 22:14:07 Edited by: zenia starwalker on 10/05/2009 22:11:17
Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: zenia starwalker
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 10/05/2009 07:06:37
Originally by: zenia starwalker
do you think im trying to impress you? Do you think i care if you believe me or not?
Someone has an inflated ego...
Generally when someone makes a statement that contradicts logic, they need to back it up for people to believe it.
Its not about my ego, its about yours. You made a statement and you cannot back it up so now you are trying to get out of the situation your ego put you in.
Better luck next time.
I dont need to back up anything. I know what I said is true. its not my job to educate you, if you want to learn about TCP/IP and networking in general, pick up a book.
Dont believe me, I dont really care. Im not about to get into a technical argument with some dude on the internet.
ok you work for a isp, that means little. I got a question for you. I work as a network admin in a rather large company. There is one thing i dont know, and you probably know it. Thats why im gonna ask 568 and 568b, I know what the green and orange pairs do (rx and tx +-) and the blue is for phone. But what the hell does the brown pair do? Ive never had it in use anywhere.
2 pairs are used for 100meg speed. 4 pairs are used for GIG E.
Thats such a trivial question. You'd think that some guy who works as a "network admin for a large company" should know the answer.
and im wasnt trying to state that with the IP address your just magically going to know where the physical address of that node is. of course you need other information. Its not that difficult to find out from ARIN which IP address was allocated to which entity. From there the hacker sill needs to do some digging, but thats what they do. Get one of these morons from 4chan with lots of time/skills on his hands and he/she can find out anything.
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Sosus Red
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.05.11 06:03:00 -
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Edited by: Sosus Red on 11/05/2009 06:03:41
Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: zenia starwalker
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 10/05/2009 07:06:37
Originally by: zenia starwalker
do you think im trying to impress you? Do you think i care if you believe me or not?
Someone has an inflated ego...
Generally when someone makes a statement that contradicts logic, they need to back it up for people to believe it.
Its not about my ego, its about yours. You made a statement and you cannot back it up so now you are trying to get out of the situation your ego put you in.
Better luck next time.
I dont need to back up anything. I know what I said is true. its not my job to educate you, if you want to learn about TCP/IP and networking in general, pick up a book.
Dont believe me, I dont really care. Im not about to get into a technical argument with some dude on the internet.
ok you work for a isp, that means little. I got a question for you. I work as a network admin in a rather large company. There is one thing i dont know, and you probably know it. Thats why im gonna ask 568 and 568b, I know what the green and orange pairs do (rx and tx +-) and the blue is for phone. But what the hell does the brown pair do? Ive never had it in use anywhere.
hey mr smarty pants I have some questions for you.
-a /27 is written as?
-What is the private IP range for class C?
-if you ip address is 192.168.1.34 using a /28 mask, what is your subnet number and broadcast address?
-using a /28 what is the 5th subnet, give the broadcast too, for 192.168.1.0. Do not consider IP subnet 0.
Shouldnt be too hard to a network admin, right?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.11 06:06:00 -
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Is this what learning about networks does to people?
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Vengal Seyhan
Minmatar Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.05.11 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Is this what learning about networks does to people?
Ayup. They drag out their massive e-peens.
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rValdez5987
Amarr Imperial Guard.
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Posted - 2009.05.11 06:25:00 -
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[Quote] hey mr smarty pants I have some questions for you.
-a /27 is written as?
-What is the private IP range for class C?
-if you ip address is 192.168.1.34 using a /28 mask, what is your subnet number and broadcast address?
-using a /28 what is the 5th subnet, give the broadcast too, for 192.168.1.0. Do not consider IP subnet 0.
Shouldnt be too hard to a network admin, right?
Thats not hard for anyone, especially a network admin. Anyone thats completed CCNA 1 through the cisco networking academy, or looked into subnetting and creating addressing schemes can answer those questions.
I'd answer them myself but its early morning here and i dont feel like typin-
/27 is 255.255.255.224
Class C address range is 192.0.0.0 - 223.255.255.255 with a /24 mask is following classful addressing scheme.
if you mean network address then 192.168.1.0 the .34 doesnt match any bits from the /28 prefix.
I'm not answering the last one as that would actually require me to write it down, as my brain isn't going fast enough to do it in my head atm.
Now its my turn to ask questions.
The DSAP and SSAP of an IEEE 802.2 header both are set to 'AA' hex to indicate what:
Which attribute is unique to CiscoÆs implementation of BGP? A. MED B. Weight C. AS-Path D. Local-preference E. None of the above
When configuring IOS which is not a valid ISDN backup technique?
A. Dialer watch B. Policy routing C. OSPF demand circuit D. Floating static routes E. None of the above
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Pyrostasis
Caldari Rage Quit Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.11 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987
[Quote] hey mr smarty pants I have some questions for you.
-a /27 is written as?
-What is the private IP range for class C?
-if you ip address is 192.168.1.34 using a /28 mask, what is your subnet number and broadcast address?
-using a /28 what is the 5th subnet, give the broadcast too, for 192.168.1.0. Do not consider IP subnet 0.
Shouldnt be too hard to a network admin, right?
Thats not hard for anyone, especially a network admin. Anyone thats completed CCNA 1 through the cisco networking academy, or looked into subnetting and creating addressing schemes can answer those questions.
I'd answer them myself but its early morning here and i dont feel like typin-
/27 is 255.255.255.224
Class C address range is 192.0.0.0 - 223.255.255.255 with a /24 mask is following classful addressing scheme.
if you mean network address then 192.168.1.0 the .34 doesnt match any bits from the /28 prefix.
I'm not answering the last one as that would actually require me to write it down, as my brain isn't going fast enough to do it in my head atm.
Now its my turn to ask questions.
The DSAP and SSAP of an IEEE 802.2 header both are set to 'AA' hex to indicate what:
Which attribute is unique to CiscoÆs implementation of BGP? A. MED B. Weight C. AS-Path D. Local-preference E. None of the above
When configuring IOS which is not a valid ISDN backup technique?
A. Dialer watch B. Policy routing C. OSPF demand circuit D. Floating static routes E. None of the above
Enjoy. NO CHEATING.
Wow...Nerd mating season has started early this year, I havent heard Nerd mating calls this loud in years, well, at least not since I changed majors from comp sci to Economics.
I do find it amusing that folks keep trying to one up each other, pretty soon we are going to get entire taunts and insults in PASCAL! simply to prove who is the bestest uber nerd!
Rock on guys.
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.11 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sosus Red
-What is the private IP range for class C?
There is no such thing as classful networking since CIDR - you fail.
Quote:
-if you ip address is 192.168.1.34 using a /28 mask, what is your subnet number and broadcast address?
-using a /28 what is the 5th subnet, give the broadcast too, for 192.168.1.0. Do not consider IP subnet 0.
Homework help? :)
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.05.11 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 11/05/2009 12:26:32
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
There is no such thing as classful networking since CIDR - you fail.
No, you fail. CIDR is for routing, where the old classes have indeed been abandoned. But people still need to know about them because they're relevant for other stuff.
Oh, and it's classful/classless routing not networking.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.11 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 11/05/2009 13:22:35
Quote:
Seeing how mosaic wasnt even released until 1993, I think your numbers are a bit off...
I remember using internet at university, in 1989. It was by telnet and FTP in those days, but the "thing" was it.
Then came Gopher, along with VERONICA.
Quote:
Is this what learning about networks does to people?
Network admins is the new frontier of PvP!
(Packet Vs Packet, what did you think? )
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Mithius Fear
Minmatar HiSec Cosmo Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.11 17:06:00 -
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I once laughed at my Dad because he was worried that he might get a virus in his first PC down the power cable.
Now I see it is totally true!!!!!
Linkage
Guess it goes to show how much I know about network stuff.
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Gabrielle Ariela
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Posted - 2009.05.11 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Gabrielle Ariela on 11/05/2009 17:16:23 Tracing route to 87.237.38.200 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 2 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.254 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.254.254 3 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms rovxel1.fi.elisa.net [91.156.72.1] 4 17 ms 20 ms 18 ms ae3.oulhal-p1.fi.elisa.net [139.97.11.198] 5 33 ms 29 ms 32 ms ae1.heltli-gw1.fi.elisa.net [139.97.6.238] 6 31 ms 32 ms 29 ms ae1-10.bbr2.hel1.fi.eunetip.net [213.192.191.49] 7 75 ms 75 ms 75 ms so0-0-0-0.bbr1.ldn1.uk.eunetip.net [213.192.191.178] 8 72 ms 75 ms 75 ms linx.telecityredbus.net [195.66.224.82] 9 73 ms * 75 ms 85.90.226.201 10 75 ms 77 ms 75 ms 532-dist65-01.lon3.telecity.net [217.20.44.226] 11 76 ms 75 ms 74 ms ipt-ccp-games-1-as35834.lon3.telecity.net [217.20.44.138] 12 76 ms 75 ms 75 ms 87.237.36.22 13 77 ms 75 ms 75 ms 87.237.38.200
it could be worse only increase is from Helsinki<->London link, im not complaining :p
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Doctor Penguin
Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.11 17:18:00 -
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Strange about that discussion of "oh noes, they can track your IP and discover your RL identity!" on the first page. Some of us don't hide behind our avatars and are perfectly happy to tell others about ourselves... ________________________________________________
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