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Posted - 2012.05.10 12:03:00 -
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Missiles should have their own (hi slot) counter modules, in the same way ECM has to choose between racials. One module that can counter everything (except drones but those are rare as a primary weapon system), is a certain recipe for imbalance.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 12:40:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Sunviking wrote:Warp Scramblers and Warp Disruptors have Warp Core Stabilisers as counter Doesn't work against HICs. Missile ships are already overpowered against Pilgrim/Curse.
And long range alpha is overpowered against missile ships, and pilgrim/curse are overpowered against long range alpha.
Not being able to take on everything indiscriminately isn't 'overpowered' it's called balance.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 13:10:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tobiaz wrote:And long range alpha is overpowered against missile ships..
Not being able to take on everything indiscriminately isn't 'overpowered' it's called balance. How about being able to take on everything, like Tengu? Is that balance too?
No. And there isn't a ship in the game that needs a nerf harder then the Tengu. But FFS nerf the Tengu to fix that, not go and nerf missiles instead.
The biggest imbalances with the Tengu is the combination of missiles with the 100MN AB. No surprise there. In the history of EVE most of the 'invincible' ship setups were the ones that messed around with propulsion mods.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 13:20:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Cpt Cosmic wrote:WTB missiles that hit instantly and are not useless at long range engagements. That's just a small drawback when you get: - Longest range - You don't need capacitor to launch missiles - You always hit when in range - No tracking issues - Only weapon system in game with pure damage types ... And so on.
Hitting frigates for 2 damage might as well be a miss and that works off most of the same stats as tracking does. In fact, missiles 'track' worse then turrets because reducing your traversal with range or by kiting, has no effect on your hits.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 13:27:00 -
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Garnoo wrote:2dmg is always more than miss from arty...
A powerful argument why missiles are so overpowered compared to turrets because they 'always hit'. 
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:05:00 -
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Sunviking wrote:Tobiaz wrote:Garnoo wrote:2dmg is always more than miss from arty... A powerful argument why missiles are so overpowered compared to turrets because they 'always hit'. LMAO  But can we get back on topic please? I know that Target Painters don't have a specific counter module either, but then the effect of Target Painters is easily countered by Speed-tanking.
Target Painters don't need a counter. They are counters themselves to the inherent difficulty to hitting smaller ships (though I think it's often still way too easy, like Arty Tornados easily blapping frigates at long range, which can't really be speedtanked).
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