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X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:46:00 -
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Okay, firstly, once an acceptable offer is made I will log onto the toon in question and convo and confirm with the buyer. I will then make a private sale topic on the forum with the character being sold and sell it through all the usual CCP rules. This topic is just to advertise a number of toons that I have for sale. These are for sale. This is not a fire sale. This is not an auction. This is a shop. If you are willing to pay the price for a toon then let me know and I will set it up.
Dreads Phoenix, t2 siege, also has hg crystals http://eveboard.com/pilot/EX_Omega 16.5b
Moros, JF pilot, potential erebus http://eveboard.com/pilot/Elisriel 18b
Moros, thanatos http://eveboard.com/pilot/Reactive_00 18b
Moros, thanatos, subcap http://eveboard.com/pilot/zyphentits 19b
basic moros http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ion_Xor 14b
moros, thanny, nyx http://eveboard.com/pilot/Lupinus_Regaale 34b
basic rev http://eveboard.com/pilot/Chris_baileyy 14b
t2 siege, gun V rev http://eveboard.com/pilot/BurpX 17b
mainly subcap, basic rev http://eveboard.com/pilot/The_Jakkle 37b
basic rev, good subcap, good supports http://eveboard.com/pilot/Czar_Vlad 18b
great rev, training aeon http://eveboard.com/pilot/mekanikal 24b
Carriers
incomplete triage archon http://eveboard.com/pilot/Lady_Vay 13b
carrier V archon, training triage, aeon, hg slave http://eveboard.com/pilot/Shurtugol 32b
hg slave triage archon http://eveboard.com/pilot/Shaved_Knuckle 16b
basic archon V, supports lacking http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dominisi_Gorbachov 16b
incomplete thanatos http://eveboard.com/pilot/NdquatrE 13b
Moros, thanatos http://eveboard.com/pilot/Reactive_00 18b
incomplete thanatos (2 days off carrier V) http://eveboard.com/pilot/zyphentits 19b
Supercarriers
Hel http://eveboard.com/pilot/Nikols65 17b
fb V, carrier V hel http://eveboard.com/pilot/Kayla_B 20b
Aeon http://eveboard.com/pilot/mekanikal 24b
Aeon Ved, hg slave http://eveboard.com/pilot/Shurtugol 32b
nyx http://eveboard.com/pilot/Lupinus_Regaale 34b
If you have any interest in any of these then send me a mail. This is an incomplete list of a few of the toons I have available for sale, if you desire something else I may be able to help. I can also arrange for fully fitted dreads in the same station as these dread toons are in (north lowsec). I will update this topic over time as they sell and new toons become available. |

Merchaltofme
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:59:00 -
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15b on reactive.
Also can i see more or all of your carrier pilots please. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:03:00 -
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Merchaltofme wrote:15b on reactive.
Also can i see more or all of your carrier pilots please. rejected
The ones I haven't listed are very incomplete. I have http://eveboard.com/pilot/Red_General wants to be a thanatos
http://eveboard.com/pilot/2bhammered wants to be an archon
and http://eveboard.com/pilot/I_Shari_I wants to be an archon one day when she's grown up. |

Leviathian
Black Core Federation Intrepid Crossing
2
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:59:00 -
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Nice characters, I know appraiser is worth **** since these are solid skills without much random waste anywhere, but I still think 13b is way too high for a 16msp char, and I'll offer you 7.5b for Lady Vay. As not only is it 16msp, it's missing all tanking/jump drive/drone skills (i understand it's triage but that's too niche for me, I want to be able to use it for other **** too.) |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
13
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Posted - 2012.05.11 07:39:00 -
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Rejected. To clarify what I'm doing here. These toons are either currently in personal use by me or are being trained as investments to the point where they hit their peak value (their increase in value starts falling off quickly once they've become a narrow X pilot). Once they hit that point I will make individual WTS topics for them. Because I am happy to hold them and train them until that point I am valuing them based upon what I expect to make from them as an investment, as a trillionaire I have no desperate need to sell up any time soon. The prices are "get it now buyouts" whereby you throw a lot of isk at me and get it immediately so I forfeit the long term profit and reinvest the liquidity elsewhere. If you can find a similar toon being held by someone who views it as a liability and wants to dump it asap then he will obviously accept a much lower price. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.11 19:32:00 -
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bump |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 10:36:00 -
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Bump, new nyx pilot added to the store. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108130 |

MicioGatto
Boosts' Loft
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:41:00 -
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You are a trilionaire and you need to OVERPRICE every chars you have there of 9-10bil trying to rip off your customer?
If anyone want info i can give you proof. You sir are a joke. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:44:00 -
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MicioGatto wrote:You are a trilionaire and you need to OVERPRICE every chars you have there of 9-10bil trying to rip off your customer?
If anyone want info i can give you proof. You sir are a joke. Sir, you have found out my secret. It turns out that the price the character trader buys the characters at is actually less! than the price he sells them at. |

MicioGatto
Boosts' Loft
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:54:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:MicioGatto wrote:You are a trilionaire and you need to OVERPRICE every chars you have there of 9-10bil trying to rip off your customer?
If anyone want info i can give you proof. You sir are a joke. Sir, you have found out my secret. It turns out that the price the character trader buys the characters at is actually less! than the price he sells them at.
1-3 BIL more of the last price is ok, 9-10 bil more is a joke. Let me tell you this, i have no problem in resellers, it's a good way to make isk, but when you act like a greedy bastard and than you say: i'm a trillionaire, well sir i'm gonna hunt you down :) I'll post soon in every thread there is a clearly overpriced char and i have the list of your chars, so i can follow you so easy. Stop manipulating the bazaar in such a bad way, ppl can afford to buy a good char for 20-25bil and you want them to pay 35-45 for it. |

Ed Hardi
Panic Button.
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:15:00 -
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MicioGatto wrote:X ATM092 wrote:MicioGatto wrote:You are a trilionaire and you need to OVERPRICE every chars you have there of 9-10bil trying to rip off your customer?
If anyone want info i can give you proof. You sir are a joke. Sir, you have found out my secret. It turns out that the price the character trader buys the characters at is actually less! than the price he sells them at. 1-3 BIL more of the last price is ok, 9-10 bil more is a joke. Let me tell you this, i have no problem in resellers, it's a good way to make isk, but when you act like a greedy bastard and than you say: i'm a trillionaire, well sir i'm gonna hunt you down :) I'll post soon in every thread there is a clearly overpriced char and i have the list of your chars, so i can follow you so easy. Stop manipulating the bazaar in such a bad way, ppl can afford to buy a good char for 20-25bil and you want them to pay 35-45 for it. lol, you are a bad business man. if you buy a char for resale, you have to calculate: 500m per month for the account and 1 bil for the transfer. so you need minimum 3 bil+ for a profitable job.
and you sir are a joke. if you not have the money to buy a char or any constructive question on the seller, leave the thread b**ch  |

MicioGatto
Boosts' Loft
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Posted - 2012.05.12 13:50:00 -
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Ed Hardi wrote:MicioGatto wrote:X ATM092 wrote:MicioGatto wrote:You are a trilionaire and you need to OVERPRICE every chars you have there of 9-10bil trying to rip off your customer?
If anyone want info i can give you proof. You sir are a joke. Sir, you have found out my secret. It turns out that the price the character trader buys the characters at is actually less! than the price he sells them at. 1-3 BIL more of the last price is ok, 9-10 bil more is a joke. Let me tell you this, i have no problem in resellers, it's a good way to make isk, but when you act like a greedy bastard and than you say: i'm a trillionaire, well sir i'm gonna hunt you down :) I'll post soon in every thread there is a clearly overpriced char and i have the list of your chars, so i can follow you so easy. Stop manipulating the bazaar in such a bad way, ppl can afford to buy a good char for 20-25bil and you want them to pay 35-45 for it. lol, you are a bad business man. if you buy a char for resale, you have to calculate: 500m per month for the account and 1 bil for the transfer. so you need minimum 3 bil+ for a profitable job. and you sir are a joke. if you not have the money to buy a char or any constructive question on the seller, leave the thread b**ch 
you sir are a joke: it's 1 bil for transfer and nothing more, no one keep char for more than 1-2 weeks unless you train them but that's a different story. So if you sell it for 2bil more you are already earning isk, if you sell it for 3 bil more it's a 2 bil profit.
Selling it for 9-10bil more is simply a rip off :) Yeah i'm so poor, can you give me some isk? |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:03:00 -
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MicioGatto wrote:Ed Hardi wrote:MicioGatto wrote:X ATM092 wrote:MicioGatto wrote:You are a trilionaire and you need to OVERPRICE every chars you have there of 9-10bil trying to rip off your customer?
If anyone want info i can give you proof. You sir are a joke. Sir, you have found out my secret. It turns out that the price the character trader buys the characters at is actually less! than the price he sells them at. 1-3 BIL more of the last price is ok, 9-10 bil more is a joke. Let me tell you this, i have no problem in resellers, it's a good way to make isk, but when you act like a greedy bastard and than you say: i'm a trillionaire, well sir i'm gonna hunt you down :) I'll post soon in every thread there is a clearly overpriced char and i have the list of your chars, so i can follow you so easy. Stop manipulating the bazaar in such a bad way, ppl can afford to buy a good char for 20-25bil and you want them to pay 35-45 for it. lol, you are a bad business man. if you buy a char for resale, you have to calculate: 500m per month for the account and 1 bil for the transfer. so you need minimum 3 bil+ for a profitable job. and you sir are a joke. if you not have the money to buy a char or any constructive question on the seller, leave the thread b**ch  you sir are a joke: it's 1 bil for transfer and nothing more, no one keep char for more than 1-2 weeks unless you train them but that's a different story. So if you sell it for 2bil more you are already earning isk, if you sell it for 3 bil more it's a 2 bil profit. Selling it for 9-10bil more is simply a rip off :) Yeah i'm so poor, can you give me some isk? What you need to do then sir is borrow 1t isk and go to all the topics where I think a toon is undervalued and bid 1b under its true value. Then I'll not be able to afford it and you can buy them and then relist them at their value (keeping a billion to cover the plexes) and wait for the buyer to come along. That way sellers are happy because they get to liquidate their characters instantly, buyers are happy because they have a pool of characters to pick from and you're happy because you've made the market 100% efficient. Unfortunately my investors feel that if I tie up all their isk for several months they should get a return on it. It's very sad. Maybe you'll have more luck. |

MicioGatto
Boosts' Loft
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:43:00 -
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Quote:What you need to do then sir is borrow 1t isk and go to all the topics where I think a toon is undervalued and bid 1b under its true value. Then I'll not be able to afford it and you can buy them and then relist them at their value (keeping a billion to cover the plexes) and wait for the buyer to come along. That way sellers are happy because they get to liquidate their characters instantly, buyers are happy because they have a pool of characters to pick from and you're happy because you've made the market 100% efficient. Unfortunately my investors feel that if I tie up all their isk for several months they should get a return on it. It's very sad. Maybe you'll have more luck.
i just like to **** with you :) You'll find enough fools that will buy your overpriced chars, i'll have my laugh, you'll have your isks. |

Conjugate Momenta
Noesis Ra Dark Taboo
3
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:16:00 -
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MicioGatto wrote:Quote:What you need to do then sir is borrow 1t isk and go to all the topics where I think a toon is undervalued and bid 1b under its true value. Then I'll not be able to afford it and you can buy them and then relist them at their value (keeping a billion to cover the plexes) and wait for the buyer to come along. That way sellers are happy because they get to liquidate their characters instantly, buyers are happy because they have a pool of characters to pick from and you're happy because you've made the market 100% efficient. Unfortunately my investors feel that if I tie up all their isk for several months they should get a return on it. It's very sad. Maybe you'll have more luck. i just like to **** with you :) You'll find enough fools that will buy your overpriced chars, i'll have my laugh, you'll have your isks.
None of these are overpriced tbh. He bought them all for less than they are worth, and is selling them for what they are worth. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
15
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:39:00 -
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Another new nyx/moros/thanatos pilot added to the store. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108210 |

Myszlinksi
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 21:45:00 -
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Charging so much more for a toon than it's worth is ridiculous. Characters have value. You're buying characters for less than what they are worth, which is scamming. Then you scam even more by trying to sell them for 10b more than they are worth. You should be banned for that since scamming the character bazaar is against CCP rules. Obviously there's some flux in markets what with inflation and all, so maybe a 1b difference (ie you can buy a 10b toon for 9b and it wouldn't be a scam). That way you could buy it and then sell for 11b and keep 1b profit after PLEX costs.
Also, you shouldn't be able to just flip toons. You should have to have them for at least 6 months or something before you can sell them, and you should also have to have used them for some certain amount of time during those 6 months before you're allowed to sell it.
And to stop monopolies like this (ie: someone buying all of one kind of character), CCP should seed the market with more. Maybe different amounts of unallocated SP, like 20m unallocated SP toons for 10b. |

gellente tntimy
Phoenix Interplanetary Union
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 21:51:00 -
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would you happen to have a capita toon i can buy for about 5-6 bill? please sir?     |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
15
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Posted - 2012.05.12 21:53:00 -
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Unfortunately what with the plex costs to transfer (1b) and the skillbook costs for capital ships and carrier/dread (again around 1b) that leaves very little isk for the skillpoints. You could potentially get a holder toon for that budget if you searched but not one from me. |

gellente tntimy
Phoenix Interplanetary Union
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 21:54:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:Unfortunately what with the plex costs to transfer (1b) and the skillbook costs for capital ships and carrier/dread (again around 1b) that leaves very little isk for the skillpoints. You could potentially get a holder toon for that budget if you searched but not one from me. oh :/ kay |

Karah Serrigan
The Hatchery Team Liquid
30
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Posted - 2012.05.12 22:39:00 -
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Myszlinksi wrote:Charging so much more for a toon than it's worth is ridiculous. Characters have value. You're buying characters for less than what they are worth, which is scamming. Then you scam even more by trying to sell them for 10b more than they are worth. You should be banned for that since scamming the character bazaar is against CCP rules. Obviously there's some flux in markets what with inflation and all, so maybe a 1b difference (ie you can buy a 10b toon for 9b and it wouldn't be a scam). That way you could buy it and then sell for 11b and keep 1b profit after PLEX costs.
Also, you shouldn't be able to just flip toons. You should have to have them for at least 6 months or something before you can sell them, and you should also have to have used them for some certain amount of time during those 6 months before you're allowed to sell it.
And to stop monopolies like this (ie: someone buying all of one kind of character), CCP should seed the market with more. Maybe different amounts of unallocated SP, like 20m unallocated SP toons for 10b. Wow, i was sure you were just angry and stupid, until the last paragraph. Now im not sure if troll or REALLY stupid? :/ |

Branches of Sin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 22:40:00 -
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Thank you for hard work. Players get a quick return and you gain a tidy profit = )
I'll never buy anything from you though (lol)... |

SRS BZNZ
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 23:18:00 -
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If you weren't such worthless morons you would look at the methodology employed and challenge that with CCP instead of bitching that the big nasty man is asking for more isk than you have for the toonie you want.
Seeing as you are super dumb I will spell it out to you: send yourself a buddy account invite, buy character, PLEX account, have character transferred to that account. With this method it costs you nothing/very little have a pyramid of accounts. He never pays for the training time, only the character transfer cost.
The buddy account program is and has been widely abused for almost as long as it has existed, and CCP has turned a blind eye to that abuse, but on this scale and in this manner you might have more luck. And if you shout and stamp your feet alot. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
15
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Posted - 2012.05.12 23:20:00 -
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SRS BZNZ wrote:If you weren't such worthless morons you would look at the methodology employed and challenge that with CCP instead of bitching that the big nasty man is asking for more isk than you have for the toonie you want.
Seeing as you are super dumb I will spell it out to you: send yourself a buddy account invite, buy character, PLEX account, have character transferred to that account. With this method it costs you nothing/very little have a pyramid of accounts. He never pays for the training time, only the character transfer cost.
The buddy account program is and has been widely abused for almost as long as it has existed, and CCP has turned a blind eye to that abuse, but on this scale and in this manner you might have more luck. And if you shout and stamp your feet alot. If I buy and resell a toon CCP get 4 plexes for the transaction. If someone just sells it they get 2 plexes. I get through about 50 plexes a month, I don't think CCP are too bothered by my activities. |

SRS BZNZ
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 23:23:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:SRS BZNZ wrote:If you weren't such worthless morons you would look at the methodology employed and challenge that with CCP instead of bitching that the big nasty man is asking for more isk than you have for the toonie you want.
Seeing as you are super dumb I will spell it out to you: send yourself a buddy account invite, buy character, PLEX account, have character transferred to that account. With this method it costs you nothing/very little have a pyramid of accounts. He never pays for the training time, only the character transfer cost.
The buddy account program is and has been widely abused for almost as long as it has existed, and CCP has turned a blind eye to that abuse, but on this scale and in this manner you might have more luck. And if you shout and stamp your feet alot. If I buy and resell a toon CCP get 4 plexes for the transaction. If someone just sells it they get 2 plexes. I get through about 50 plexes a month, I don't think CCP are too bothered by my activities.
Neither do I, but they are also inconsistent in their decisions and unaware of activities taking place under their noses. |

axxeessee
Trade and Supplies Co.
10
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:54:00 -
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Myszlinksi wrote:Charging so much more for a toon than it's worth is ridiculous. Characters have value. You're buying characters for less than what they are worth, which is scamming. Then you scam even more by trying to sell them for 10b more than they are worth. You should be banned for that since scamming the character bazaar is against CCP rules. Obviously there's some flux in markets what with inflation and all, so maybe a 1b difference (ie you can buy a 10b toon for 9b and it wouldn't be a scam). That way you could buy it and then sell for 11b and keep 1b profit after PLEX costs.
Also, you shouldn't be able to just flip toons. You should have to have them for at least 6 months or something before you can sell them, and you should also have to have used them for some certain amount of time during those 6 months before you're allowed to sell it.
And to stop monopolies like this (ie: someone buying all of one kind of character), CCP should seed the market with more. Maybe different amounts of unallocated SP, like 20m unallocated SP toons for 10b.
You can't possibly be that stupid.
Lets have a little example.
''Mike and Mark are both neighbors, Mike has an radio that he doesn't want anymore and he needs money, Mike tells Mark that if he wants his old radio he can have it for 10$. Mark buys the radio, fiddles a little bit with it to clean it, pays to put up an ad in the paper selling the old radio back for 30$. Thomas really wanted that exact radio for a long time, he sees the ad, and decides to buy it.''
Applying your logic to this situation,
-Mark scammed Mike, because he bought Mike's radio at the price Mike wanted to sell it at because he didn't want it anymore, right ? Oh yeah, that makes no sense.
Mark scammed Thomas, because Thomas really wanted that radio so he decided to pay more than its worth, right ? Oh yeah, that also makes no sense at all.
As for seeding chars in market, well, all I can say is that Ive read a lot of dumb comments on these forums, some downright ********, but this has to be the greatest one ever.
As for OP : Good luck with selling your chars sir. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
15
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Posted - 2012.05.13 14:52:00 -
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Three more additions today. This wyvern/chimera/phoenix pilot http://eveboard.com/pilot/Gal_Axian 22b
This aeon/archon/revelation + fantastic subcap amarr http://eveboard.com/pilot/Snow_CALDARI 32b
This thanatos/moros + gallente subcap toon http://eveboard.com/pilot/Captain_Dolphin 26b |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
15
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Posted - 2012.05.13 22:27:00 -
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EX Omega, phoenix pilot, is now sold. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104978
Editing OP to reflect this. |

TitanElite
Black Abyss Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.05.13 23:03:00 -
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Thank you for proving my point, intelligence and maturity. I was simply trying to open up a chance to negotiate a price (which you edited out lol) on a toon I was interested in but thought was over priced. A simple no price is fixed would suffice. But I did enjoy your tears in your follow up email cause I hurt your little feelings.
Anyways enough derailment good luck with your sales. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
15
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Posted - 2012.05.13 23:08:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:These are for sale. This is not a fire sale. This is not an auction. This is a shop. If you are willing to pay the price for a toon then let me know and I will set it up.
I had hoped the analogy with a shop, in which one sees items displayed for prices and then exchange money equal to that price for the item, would clarify it for people. I had hoped this would be an experience people could relate to and use to help them understand the exchange. However, although I tried so hard, and got so far, in the end, it doesn't even matter. |
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