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ohalland 2
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:40:00 -
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Edited by: ohalland 2 on 07/09/2004 07:42:01
These forums have lost there spice. It used to be common place to see a few top 10 threads for ppl to whittle away there time at work considering. This breed of thread went extinct for the simple reason that they became a daily occurance in this forum.
To this end I bring back to you the top 10 pvp corps list. For example mine are as follows:
1. M0o
2. OC
3. Jokers
4. Zombie
5. Evolution
6. Mass
7. Xanadu
8. The Collective
9. ATUK
10.Celestial Apocalpse
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ohalland 2
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:40:00 -
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Edited by: ohalland 2 on 07/09/2004 07:42:01
These forums have lost there spice. It used to be common place to see a few top 10 threads for ppl to whittle away there time at work considering. This breed of thread went extinct for the simple reason that they became a daily occurance in this forum.
To this end I bring back to you the top 10 pvp corps list. For example mine are as follows:
1. M0o
2. OC
3. Jokers
4. Zombie
5. Evolution
6. Mass
7. Xanadu
8. The Collective
9. ATUK
10.Celestial Apocalpse
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:45:00 -
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I agree on first two, i think mass should be higher on the list tho.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:45:00 -
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I agree on first two, i think mass should be higher on the list tho.
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I wanna tuc tuc .. |
Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:48:00 -
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VOTF should be put at .3
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:48:00 -
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VOTF should be put at .3
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 07/09/2004 08:41:47
And No Shinra hmmmmmmmm ....
1. M0o
2. Jokers
3. OC
4. Evolution
5. Mass
6. VOTF
7. ATUK
8. Xan
9. Zombie
10.The collective
This is based from a euro timezone perspective.
Don't flame me cause I know I'm right. 
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 07/09/2004 08:41:47
And No Shinra hmmmmmmmm ....
1. M0o
2. Jokers
3. OC
4. Evolution
5. Mass
6. VOTF
7. ATUK
8. Xan
9. Zombie
10.The collective
This is based from a euro timezone perspective.
Don't flame me cause I know I'm right.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/09/2004 08:01:16
1. m0o
2. Evolution
3. ATUK
4. OC
5. Biomass/F-E
6. Joker Corp
7. Zombie
8. BNC
9. Celestial Apoc
10. VOTF
For the record, these are corps I have fought with or against.
I can't be the judge of people I don't know.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/09/2004 08:01:16
1. m0o
2. Evolution
3. ATUK
4. OC
5. Biomass/F-E
6. Joker Corp
7. Zombie
8. BNC
9. Celestial Apoc
10. VOTF
For the record, these are corps I have fought with or against.
I can't be the judge of people I don't know.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:03:00 -
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Your all smokin' somthing...
VOTF 3-5
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:03:00 -
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Your all smokin' somthing...
VOTF 3-5
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:26:00 -
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1. m0o
2. Shinra
3. Evolution
4. MASS
5. VOTF
6. ATUK
7. RUS
8. The collective
9. Zombie
10. Rona-Kia
Pfff always hard to decide who is better then who in a top-10. It's more like a feeling then it is based on facts  . Well this is my view of it all.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:26:00 -
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1. m0o
2. Shinra
3. Evolution
4. MASS
5. VOTF
6. ATUK
7. RUS
8. The collective
9. Zombie
10. Rona-Kia
Pfff always hard to decide who is better then who in a top-10. It's more like a feeling then it is based on facts . Well this is my view of it all.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:33:00 -
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ooh, ooh, when's the top 10 mining corps gonna be done?
We should be pretty near the top of that one.
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Dead
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:33:00 -
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ooh, ooh, when's the top 10 mining corps gonna be done?
We should be pretty near the top of that one.
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Dead
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 07/09/2004 08:39:38
 Originally by: Miso
ooh, ooh, when's the top 10 mining corps gonna be done?
We should be pretty near the top of that one.
VOTF pwnz all on that one. 
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 07/09/2004 08:39:38
Originally by: Miso
ooh, ooh, when's the top 10 mining corps gonna be done?
We should be pretty near the top of that one.
VOTF pwnz all on that one.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:37:00 -
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1. Shinra
2. Evolution
3. Black Omega Security
4. MASS
5. VOTF
6. ATUK
7. The Collective
8. Corp 1
9. m0o
10. Intergalatic Serenity (Awesome frigate pilots)
Brief explanation as to some of the corps there and why i feel they deserve their position.
Shinra number one, why? Anyone that's flown with an intoxicated chowdown at 4am in the morning against 3:1 odds will know why. Amazing pilots.
Black Omega Security at second mostly because of the leadership of Skull HsC - the best fleet commander i know, he's shown that time and time again. Also the faint cry of "MAASU GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE!!" when i'm 60% structure makes me feel guilty so he has to get a spot there:p.
Not seen any FA fight other than Xanadu really. I should put xan up there but their performance in Fountain recently has left them somewhat wanting.
I placed evolution above m0o because i thik out of the m0ovolution block their the better half (narrowly ofc - probably just i got more experience fighting Evol than i do m0o). Also m0o so far down the list because if anything (and remember this is based on my opinion) their only there due to reputation on the forums here, i've had the odd engagement, nothing significant can't slate what i saw there.
Please remember it's my opinion and i'm not slating your corp in any way - you have to remember that this is a list of the top 10 corps in eve at the momment from my opinion. I'll be honest it's based on PvP ability as thats the only reason i play eve so i cannot comment nor comphrehend any other fields.
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:37:00 -
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1. Shinra
2. Evolution
3. Black Omega Security
4. MASS
5. VOTF
6. ATUK
7. The Collective
8. Corp 1
9. m0o
10. Intergalatic Serenity (Awesome frigate pilots)
Brief explanation as to some of the corps there and why i feel they deserve their position.
Shinra number one, why? Anyone that's flown with an intoxicated chowdown at 4am in the morning against 3:1 odds will know why. Amazing pilots.
Black Omega Security at second mostly because of the leadership of Skull HsC - the best fleet commander i know, he's shown that time and time again. Also the faint cry of "MAASU GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE!!" when i'm 60% structure makes me feel guilty so he has to get a spot there:p.
Not seen any FA fight other than Xanadu really. I should put xan up there but their performance in Fountain recently has left them somewhat wanting.
I placed evolution above m0o because i thik out of the m0ovolution block their the better half (narrowly ofc - probably just i got more experience fighting Evol than i do m0o). Also m0o so far down the list because if anything (and remember this is based on my opinion) their only there due to reputation on the forums here, i've had the odd engagement, nothing significant can't slate what i saw there.
Please remember it's my opinion and i'm not slating your corp in any way - you have to remember that this is a list of the top 10 corps in eve at the momment from my opinion. I'll be honest it's based on PvP ability as thats the only reason i play eve so i cannot comment nor comphrehend any other fields.
Reverend Necrona |
Hel Lucifer
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:11:00 -
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my list as follows :)
1)Space Invaders
2)Zombie Corp
3)M0o
4)Evolution
5)Shinra
6)VOTF
7)MASS
8)xanadu
9)Omega Corp
10)TunDraGon
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Hel Lucifer
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:11:00 -
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my list as follows :)
1)Space Invaders
2)Zombie Corp
3)M0o
4)Evolution
5)Shinra
6)VOTF
7)MASS
8)xanadu
9)Omega Corp
10)TunDraGon
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Shredder
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Shredder on 07/09/2004 09:33:42
1.OC
2.M0o
3.Evolution
4.Shinra
5.VOTF
6.ATUK
7.The Collective
8.RUS
9.Celestial Apocalypse
10.Xanadu
(my view isnt really based on much, one enemy is the same as another to me, and i havnt had contact with peeps such as space invaders, zombie, etc)
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Shredder
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Shredder on 07/09/2004 09:33:42
1.OC
2.M0o
3.Evolution
4.Shinra
5.VOTF
6.ATUK
7.The Collective
8.RUS
9.Celestial Apocalypse
10.Xanadu
(my view isnt really based on much, one enemy is the same as another to me, and i havnt had contact with peeps such as space invaders, zombie, etc)
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Amthrianius on 07/09/2004 09:24:18
Originally by: Tholarim
7. RUS
rofl, you having laughing irl here 
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Amthrianius on 07/09/2004 09:24:18
Originally by: Tholarim
7. RUS
rofl, you having laughing irl here
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 07/09/2004 09:30:11
1. OC
2. ATUK
3. RUS
4. MASS
5. Setana
6. VOTF
7. M0o
8. Celestial Apocalpse
9. ASCI
10. BIG (They have a ibis with Special ability: 20% mindcontrolling per level)
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 07/09/2004 09:30:11
1. OC
2. ATUK
3. RUS
4. MASS
5. Setana
6. VOTF
7. M0o
8. Celestial Apocalpse
9. ASCI
10. BIG (They have a ibis with Special ability: 20% mindcontrolling per level)
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Kate Libby
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:27:00 -
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 huh why's there no Ascendancy Inc in any list? 
1:m0o
2:Atuk
3:Evolution
4:Mass
5:Xanadu
6:Votf
7:Shinra
8:The Collective
9:OC
10:Biomass/FE (respect the old farts!)
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20: ASCI
Just checking my sexy tools...
ASCI - Neutralized Ships
[-]i¦m too old for th |
Kate Libby
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:27:00 -
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huh why's there no Ascendancy Inc in any list?
1:m0o
2:Atuk
3:Evolution
4:Mass
5:Xanadu
6:Votf
7:Shinra
8:The Collective
9:OC
10:Biomass/FE (respect the old farts!)
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20: ASCI
Just checking my sexy tools...
ASCI - Neutralized Ships
[-]i¦m too old for th |
darth solo
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:30:00 -
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1.jokers
2.zombies
3.space invaders
4.spang
5.tundragons
6.VOTF
7.EVOL
8.biomass
9. blades
10. R-K
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:30:00 -
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1.jokers
2.zombies
3.space invaders
4.spang
5.tundragons
6.VOTF
7.EVOL
8.biomass
9. blades
10. R-K
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Kate Libby
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Edited by: Amthrianius on 07/09/2004 09:24:18
Originally by: Tholarim
7. RUS
rofl, you having laughing irl here
actually RUS has quite good pvp-ers. though some of them seem to use all kind of realy weird setups regulary wich makes them look funny..
Just checking my sexy tools...
ASCI - Neutralized Ships
[-]i¦m too old for th |
Kate Libby
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Edited by: Amthrianius on 07/09/2004 09:24:18
Originally by: Tholarim
7. RUS
rofl, you having laughing irl here
actually RUS has quite good pvp-ers. though some of them seem to use all kind of realy weird setups regulary wich makes them look funny..
Just checking my sexy tools...
ASCI - Neutralized Ships
[-]i¦m too old for th |
Estios
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 07/09/2004 09:39:57
Rev, Thol ...surely OC should be on there too ?? In my view OC and Shinra are the 2 best CA PVP corps.
Or Im guessing by the trend (except maybe Aneu) that you shouldnt really vote for you own ? I get manners
I dont know any northern corps (although I hope to rectify that lack of knowledge) so cant really do a EVE top ten but a Southern top 10 (in no order) would be:
Evolution
OC
m0o
Shinra
The Collective
MASS
VOTF
Zombie
RUS Elite
oh sod it ...ATUK
hmmm Kate makes a good point, in that she looks quite nice so ACSI too
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 07/09/2004 09:39:57
Rev, Thol ...surely OC should be on there too ?? In my view OC and Shinra are the 2 best CA PVP corps.
Or Im guessing by the trend (except maybe Aneu) that you shouldnt really vote for you own ? I get manners
I dont know any northern corps (although I hope to rectify that lack of knowledge) so cant really do a EVE top ten but a Southern top 10 (in no order) would be:
Evolution
OC
m0o
Shinra
The Collective
MASS
VOTF
Zombie
RUS Elite
oh sod it ...ATUK
hmmm Kate makes a good point, in that she looks quite nice so ACSI too
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kate Libby
Originally by: Amthrianius
Edited by: Amthrianius on 07/09/2004 09:24:18
Originally by: Tholarim
7. RUS
rofl, you having laughing irl here
actually RUS has quite good pvp-ers. though some of them seem to use all kind of realy weird setups regulary wich makes them look funny..
Setusp such as
2004.08.20 16:34:00
Victim: Alberto Petroff
Corporation: RUS Academy
Destroyed Type: Crusader
Solar System: M53-1V
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Amthrianius (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 4.9
Corporation: Xanadu
Ship Type: Taranis
Weapon Type: Light Ion Blaster I
Destroyed items:
Type: Ultraviolet S (Cargo)
Quantity: 2
Type: Micro Auxiliary Power Core I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Capacitor Power Relay I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Capacitor Power Relay I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Co-Processor I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: 1MN MicroWarpdrive I (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Radio S (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 1
Type: Radio S (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 1
Type: Radio S (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 1
Type: Radio S (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 1
that?
heh, who fits a co-pro on an inter..... or for that matter radio crystals....
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kate Libby
Originally by: Amthrianius
Edited by: Amthrianius on 07/09/2004 09:24:18
Originally by: Tholarim
7. RUS
rofl, you having laughing irl here
actually RUS has quite good pvp-ers. though some of them seem to use all kind of realy weird setups regulary wich makes them look funny..
Setusp such as
2004.08.20 16:34:00
Victim: Alberto Petroff
Corporation: RUS Academy
Destroyed Type: Crusader
Solar System: M53-1V
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Amthrianius (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 4.9
Corporation: Xanadu
Ship Type: Taranis
Weapon Type: Light Ion Blaster I
Destroyed items:
Type: Ultraviolet S (Cargo)
Quantity: 2
Type: Micro Auxiliary Power Core I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Capacitor Power Relay I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Capacitor Power Relay I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Co-Processor I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: 1MN MicroWarpdrive I (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Radio S (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 1
Type: Radio S (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 1
Type: Radio S (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 1
Type: Radio S (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 1
that?
heh, who fits a co-pro on an inter..... or for that matter radio crystals....
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:45:00 -
[39]
Notice Dude. Its RUS academy, its where there n00bs train. doh
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:45:00 -
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Notice Dude. Its RUS academy, its where there n00bs train. doh
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Dolemite2K on 07/09/2004 10:12:04
Edited by: Dolemite2K on 07/09/2004 10:11:31
Edited by: Dolemite2K on 07/09/2004 10:10:05
Originally by: Miso
ooh, ooh, when's the top 10 mining corps gonna be done?
wanna know whats sad?,
VOTF would be pretty much on top of that one 
Quote:
xirtam last nigth: "get your ass over to the velspar roid and mine biatch"
1. Zombie (if their still around havent seen them in a long time)
2. m0o (like'em or not you can't deny it they're pretty much the best)
3. OC (all over the place blowing **** up)
4. Shinra (haven had the chance to fly with them for a while )
5. RUS (Last corp in eve i'd ever want a war with)
6. MASS (hard to keep track of who's who in stain I usually only see yello squares)
7. the Collective (Same as mass)
8. ATUK (should probably rate these guys higher but i don't like them very much  )
9. EVOL (it's been too long, m0o's sidekick)
10. BOS (Daakkon rules mmmmk?)
one day i migth learn to type
thats rigth 3 edits
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Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |
Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:47:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Dolemite2K on 07/09/2004 10:12:04
Edited by: Dolemite2K on 07/09/2004 10:11:31
Edited by: Dolemite2K on 07/09/2004 10:10:05
Originally by: Miso
ooh, ooh, when's the top 10 mining corps gonna be done?
wanna know whats sad?,
VOTF would be pretty much on top of that one
Quote:
xirtam last nigth: "get your ass over to the velspar roid and mine biatch"
1. Zombie (if their still around havent seen them in a long time)
2. m0o (like'em or not you can't deny it they're pretty much the best)
3. OC (all over the place blowing **** up)
4. Shinra (haven had the chance to fly with them for a while )
5. RUS (Last corp in eve i'd ever want a war with)
6. MASS (hard to keep track of who's who in stain I usually only see yello squares)
7. the Collective (Same as mass)
8. ATUK (should probably rate these guys higher but i don't like them very much )
9. EVOL (it's been too long, m0o's sidekick)
10. BOS (Daakkon rules mmmmk?)
one day i migth learn to type
thats rigth 3 edits
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Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |
Kulach
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:47:00 -
[43]
I don't think that post belongs in this thread Amthrianius. Just start a new topic and call it flames'r'us so the mods can lock that one instead...
This thread is a top 10 thread. Nothing else...
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:47:00 -
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I don't think that post belongs in this thread Amthrianius. Just start a new topic and call it flames'r'us so the mods can lock that one instead...
This thread is a top 10 thread. Nothing else...
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:13:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Kulach
I don't think that post belongs in this thread Amthrianius. Just start a new topic and call it flames'r'us so the mods can lock that one instead...
This thread is a top 10 thread. Nothing else...
Whos making all these snazzy oc signatures? Who do i apply preassure on from behind to get one? o.O
As for me not voting oc, oi Estios, im a cnut, im immature and im annoying but i do hold some modesty :D
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:13:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Kulach
I don't think that post belongs in this thread Amthrianius. Just start a new topic and call it flames'r'us so the mods can lock that one instead...
This thread is a top 10 thread. Nothing else...
Whos making all these snazzy oc signatures? Who do i apply preassure on from behind to get one? o.O
As for me not voting oc, oi Estios, im a cnut, im immature and im annoying but i do hold some modesty :D
Reverend Necrona |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:17:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Whos making all these snazzy oc signatures? Who do i apply preassure on from behind to get one? o.O
I have one inbound with a badger mk1. You need to talk to Enslaver.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:17:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Whos making all these snazzy oc signatures? Who do i apply preassure on from behind to get one? o.O
I have one inbound with a badger mk1. You need to talk to Enslaver.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:20:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Chowdown
Notice Dude. Its RUS academy, its where there n00bs train. doh
n00bs fly inters now? :rolleyes:
and if you look at his corp history he was RUS before RUS academy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:20:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Chowdown
Notice Dude. Its RUS academy, its where there n00bs train. doh
n00bs fly inters now? :rolleyes:
and if you look at his corp history he was RUS before RUS academy
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:23:00 -
[51]
The best part from RUS guys is that if you are in a gang with them, and they say warp out in russian, then you will be hanging there alone and see everyone warping away. Simply because you can't understand russian hÚhÚ. Another valuable lesson in the art of PVP 
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:23:00 -
[52]
The best part from RUS guys is that if you are in a gang with them, and they say warp out in russian, then you will be hanging there alone and see everyone warping away. Simply because you can't understand russian hÚhÚ. Another valuable lesson in the art of PVP
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:24:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Chowdown on 07/09/2004 10:27:49
Originally by: Amthrianius
n00bs fly inters now? :rolleyes:
and if you look at his corp history he was RUS before RUS academy
N00bs fly Battle Ships, I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Yes n00bs fly inteceptors, why do you think he is in RUS academy? He clearly was not proficient enough for RUS.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:24:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Chowdown on 07/09/2004 10:27:49
Originally by: Amthrianius
n00bs fly inters now? :rolleyes:
and if you look at his corp history he was RUS before RUS academy
N00bs fly Battle Ships, I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Yes n00bs fly inteceptors, why do you think he is in RUS academy? He clearly was not proficient enough for RUS.
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:27:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Chowdown
N00bs fly Battle Ships, I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Yes n00bs fly inteceptors, why do you think he is in RUS academy? He clearly was not proficient enough for RUS.
we all know that, but don't ruin his moment Chow he posted what is probably his only kill mail
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:27:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Chowdown
N00bs fly Battle Ships, I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Yes n00bs fly inteceptors, why do you think he is in RUS academy? He clearly was not proficient enough for RUS.
we all know that, but don't ruin his moment Chow he posted what is probably his only kill mail
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:43:00 -
[57]
This list represents the top 10 PVP corps i have fought with or against. Corps like OC, colletcive and mass etc im sure are excellent PVP corps but i dont know them much
1. m0o
2. Evolution
3. Jokers
4. Zombies
5. ATUK
6. VOTF
7. Xanadu
8. Spectre knights
9. Silent guard
10.Tundragons
I see Shinra getting a lot of mentions, they must of improved a lot since our empire war. (not inteneded as a flame, i hear a lot of people saying they are really good now.)
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:43:00 -
[58]
This list represents the top 10 PVP corps i have fought with or against. Corps like OC, colletcive and mass etc im sure are excellent PVP corps but i dont know them much
1. m0o
2. Evolution
3. Jokers
4. Zombies
5. ATUK
6. VOTF
7. Xanadu
8. Spectre knights
9. Silent guard
10.Tundragons
I see Shinra getting a lot of mentions, they must of improved a lot since our empire war. (not inteneded as a flame, i hear a lot of people saying they are really good now.)
Celes Kill Board
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:50:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Dolemite2K
Originally by: Chowdown
N00bs fly Battle Ships, I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Yes n00bs fly inteceptors, why do you think he is in RUS academy? He clearly was not proficient enough for RUS.
we all know that, but don't ruin his moment Chow he posted what is probably his only kill mail
clearly...
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:50:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Dolemite2K
Originally by: Chowdown
N00bs fly Battle Ships, I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Yes n00bs fly inteceptors, why do you think he is in RUS academy? He clearly was not proficient enough for RUS.
we all know that, but don't ruin his moment Chow he posted what is probably his only kill mail
clearly...
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Guderian
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:04:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Shadowthrone
I see Shinra getting a lot of mentions, they must of improved a lot since our empire war. (not inteneded as a flame, i hear a lot of people saying they are really good now.)
About the Celestial Apocalypse war. Shinra never persued that war. We had it as an option, but never really send any squads/fleets to fight you in ES.
Shinra's reputation as a pvp corp is long standing and the corporations that are aknowledging us have known us for quite some time and knows that we havn't just emerged over the last few months or so. If your perception of us is based on our war with CELES, please feel free to exclude us from your list, but dont flame us in this otherwise flamefree thread, just because some pilots know us better than you do.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:04:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Shadowthrone
I see Shinra getting a lot of mentions, they must of improved a lot since our empire war. (not inteneded as a flame, i hear a lot of people saying they are really good now.)
About the Celestial Apocalypse war. Shinra never persued that war. We had it as an option, but never really send any squads/fleets to fight you in ES.
Shinra's reputation as a pvp corp is long standing and the corporations that are aknowledging us have known us for quite some time and knows that we havn't just emerged over the last few months or so. If your perception of us is based on our war with CELES, please feel free to exclude us from your list, but dont flame us in this otherwise flamefree thread, just because some pilots know us better than you do.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:11:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Guderian
(not inteneded as a flame, i hear a lot of people saying they are really good now.)
Did you read this properly, It was more a compliment than a flame 
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:11:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Guderian
(not inteneded as a flame, i hear a lot of people saying they are really good now.)
Did you read this properly, It was more a compliment than a flame
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:14:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 07/09/2004 11:17:32
Originally by: Amthrianius
Edited by: Amthrianius on 07/09/2004 09:24:18
Originally by: Tholarim
7. RUS
rofl, you having laughing irl here
Excuse me, but RUA and RUS aren't the same,
RUA are newbs, no matter what they fly - they don't pvp much.
If you have anything against RUS you are welcome to contact me in game or irc.
p.s.: oh and to elaborate a bit:
those who have employment history of first being in RUS then RUA,
are the people who weren't ready for being in RUS when they joined.
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:14:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 07/09/2004 11:17:32
Originally by: Amthrianius
Edited by: Amthrianius on 07/09/2004 09:24:18
Originally by: Tholarim
7. RUS
rofl, you having laughing irl here
Excuse me, but RUA and RUS aren't the same,
RUA are newbs, no matter what they fly - they don't pvp much.
If you have anything against RUS you are welcome to contact me in game or irc.
p.s.: oh and to elaborate a bit:
those who have employment history of first being in RUS then RUA,
are the people who weren't ready for being in RUS when they joined.
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:: bio :: blog ::
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:23:00 -
[67]
I'm not gonna post a top 10 here, but I'd like to add that I remember that even a year ago, when m0o was the foremost pvp corp (not saying they arent now), adn feared throughout Eve (not saying they arent now  ), I remember a quote from one of their senior members going something like:
"RUS is pretty damn scary. Their coordinated tactics make me wet my pants".
I'm probably way off in wording but right on the mark in meaning with that line.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:23:00 -
[68]
I'm not gonna post a top 10 here, but I'd like to add that I remember that even a year ago, when m0o was the foremost pvp corp (not saying they arent now), adn feared throughout Eve (not saying they arent now ), I remember a quote from one of their senior members going something like:
"RUS is pretty damn scary. Their coordinated tactics make me wet my pants".
I'm probably way off in wording but right on the mark in meaning with that line.
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:26:00 -
[69]
You know I dont really like these top 10 threads because alot of people go on rep alone and not experience so its kinda pointless.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:26:00 -
[70]
You know I dont really like these top 10 threads because alot of people go on rep alone and not experience so its kinda pointless.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:27:00 -
[71]
Aye Rod, back when i was still SA RUS was always one of those corps who could actually make me nervous for a fight  .
And when you see what the RUS main PvP can do you'll agree with me that they do belong in a top10. I was in a few fleets with RUS ppl in it and the sheer amount of coordination and calm they have while engaging a superiour enemy force is scary.
I'm glad they don't shoot me anymore
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:27:00 -
[72]
Aye Rod, back when i was still SA RUS was always one of those corps who could actually make me nervous for a fight .
And when you see what the RUS main PvP can do you'll agree with me that they do belong in a top10. I was in a few fleets with RUS ppl in it and the sheer amount of coordination and calm they have while engaging a superiour enemy force is scary.
I'm glad they don't shoot me anymore
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:31:00 -
[73]
Originally by: sutty
You know I dont really like these top 10 threads because alot of people go on rep alone and not experience so its kinda pointless.
This is the most sensible thing I've read on this thread so far. I've been amazed at how short alot of so called uber-pvp corps fall of the reputations they like to boast about on the forums. I can't think of a single corp I'd think "oh ****" if they war dec'd us. There are some very clever individuals, but thats about it.
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:31:00 -
[74]
Originally by: sutty
You know I dont really like these top 10 threads because alot of people go on rep alone and not experience so its kinda pointless.
This is the most sensible thing I've read on this thread so far. I've been amazed at how short alot of so called uber-pvp corps fall of the reputations they like to boast about on the forums. I can't think of a single corp I'd think "oh ****" if they war dec'd us. There are some very clever individuals, but thats about it.
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:31:00 -
[75]
1 Paladins of the red skull(no smack, decent set-ups, got guts)
2 Evol
3 m0o
4 Xanadu
5 Coll
6 OC (*terms and conditions apply  )
7 Mass
8 Shinra
9 RKK (not flown with much so can't place em higher)
10 Zelota (coz I heard he destroyed an entire world on his own)
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:31:00 -
[76]
1 Paladins of the red skull(no smack, decent set-ups, got guts)
2 Evol
3 m0o
4 Xanadu
5 Coll
6 OC (*terms and conditions apply )
7 Mass
8 Shinra
9 RKK (not flown with much so can't place em higher)
10 Zelota (coz I heard he destroyed an entire world on his own)
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:33:00 -
[77]
Xanadu dont belong in any of these lists... they dont fight they get their slaves to do it.
Aneu
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Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:33:00 -
[78]
Xanadu dont belong in any of these lists... they dont fight they get their slaves to do it.
Aneu
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Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:35:00 -
[79]
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 11:36:57
Originally by: Miso
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
Ok that I dont agree with, pvp comes down to skill of the players ,commander and communication, which imo is the key 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:35:00 -
[80]
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 11:36:57
Originally by: Miso
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
Ok that I dont agree with, pvp comes down to skill of the players ,commander and communication, which imo is the key
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:36:00 -
[81]
Is this thread based on reputation because I have not had sustained dealing with anyone to notice how good they are. I notice good pilots while fighting in Curse but not realy corps as they all have pilots of quality.
Maybe I need to get out more.
Can the rated top 10 come and kick my a$$ so I can add my own top 10?
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:36:00 -
[82]
Is this thread based on reputation because I have not had sustained dealing with anyone to notice how good they are. I notice good pilots while fighting in Curse but not realy corps as they all have pilots of quality.
Maybe I need to get out more.
Can the rated top 10 come and kick my a$$ so I can add my own top 10?
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:38:00 -
[83]
Originally by: sutty
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 11:36:57
Originally by: Miso
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
Ok that I dont agree with, pvp comes down to skill of the players ,commander and communication, which imo is the key
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know.
Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online
Solutions to your issues. |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:38:00 -
[84]
Originally by: sutty
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 11:36:57
Originally by: Miso
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
Ok that I dont agree with, pvp comes down to skill of the players ,commander and communication, which imo is the key
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know.
Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online
Solutions to your issues. |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:52:00 -
[85]
yes quote me and dont say anything !
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:52:00 -
[86]
yes quote me and dont say anything !
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:00:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Guderian
About the Celestial Apocalypse war. Shinra never persued that war. We had it as an option, but never really send any squads/fleets to fight you in ES.
Shinra's reputation as a pvp corp is long standing and the corporations that are aknowledging us have known us for quite some time and knows that we havn't just emerged over the last few months or so. If your perception of us is based on our war with CELES, please feel free to exclude us from your list, but dont flame us in this otherwise flamefree thread, just because some pilots know us better than you do.
U shouldnt declare wars on corps if u are not going to pursue them to the full. It will just make u look bad in the long run. But ill concede the point that i shouldn't judge you on the basis of that wars K/D ratio and Ill accept the consenus view on shinra pvpers but i still can't put you on my own personal list. As i said in my post I didnt mean it as a flame.
Celes Kill Board
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:00:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Guderian
About the Celestial Apocalypse war. Shinra never persued that war. We had it as an option, but never really send any squads/fleets to fight you in ES.
Shinra's reputation as a pvp corp is long standing and the corporations that are aknowledging us have known us for quite some time and knows that we havn't just emerged over the last few months or so. If your perception of us is based on our war with CELES, please feel free to exclude us from your list, but dont flame us in this otherwise flamefree thread, just because some pilots know us better than you do.
U shouldnt declare wars on corps if u are not going to pursue them to the full. It will just make u look bad in the long run. But ill concede the point that i shouldn't judge you on the basis of that wars K/D ratio and Ill accept the consenus view on shinra pvpers but i still can't put you on my own personal list. As i said in my post I didnt mean it as a flame.
Celes Kill Board
"Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:27:00 -
[89]
1) m0o
2) Omega Corp
3) TunDraGon (they have more kills as m0o with only 1/3 of members.)
4) ShinRa
5) VOTF
6) Celes (very good organzied now)
7) MASS
8) The.Collective
9) Red Brigades (really good Anti-FA corp)
10) Evolution
Zombies joined m0o. Same for Space Invaders. Why ppl ranked them ? n00bs, get some spies in other corps .
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:27:00 -
[90]
1) m0o
2) Omega Corp
3) TunDraGon (they have more kills as m0o with only 1/3 of members.)
4) ShinRa
5) VOTF
6) Celes (very good organzied now)
7) MASS
8) The.Collective
9) Red Brigades (really good Anti-FA corp)
10) Evolution
Zombies joined m0o. Same for Space Invaders. Why ppl ranked them ? n00bs, get some spies in other corps .
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:39:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Miso
Originally by: sutty
You know I dont really like these top 10 threads because alot of people go on rep alone and not experience so its kinda pointless.
This is the most sensible thing I've read on this thread so far. I've been amazed at how short alot of so called uber-pvp corps fall of the reputations they like to boast about on the forums. I can't think of a single corp I'd think "oh ****" if they war dec'd us. There are some very clever individuals, but thats about it.
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
From this post i can only assume your very new to PvP.
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:39:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Miso
Originally by: sutty
You know I dont really like these top 10 threads because alot of people go on rep alone and not experience so its kinda pointless.
This is the most sensible thing I've read on this thread so far. I've been amazed at how short alot of so called uber-pvp corps fall of the reputations they like to boast about on the forums. I can't think of a single corp I'd think "oh ****" if they war dec'd us. There are some very clever individuals, but thats about it.
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
From this post i can only assume your very new to PvP.
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:44:00 -
[93]
Originally by: sutty
yes quote me and dont say anything !
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:44:00 -
[94]
Originally by: sutty
yes quote me and dont say anything !
Reverend Necrona |
Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:45:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Miso on 07/09/2004 12:48:07
Originally by: sutty
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 11:36:57
Originally by: Miso
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
Ok that I dont agree with, pvp comes down to skill of the players ,commander and communication, which imo is the key
Ok, I'll clarfy what I mean:
1 v 1's - winner is decided by luck (by that I mean, paper scissors stone, luck of the draw with loadouts)
blob v blob - winner is decided by the servers performance, numbers and how the those numbers are organised.
There is nothing else to PvP in Eve. If this game was*****pit view, a la Elite, then skill would come into play. Activating and deactiving modules with a mouse click requires no skill, I dont care what anyone says.
Rev - don't be an ass. Eve is full of them already.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:45:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Miso on 07/09/2004 12:48:07
Originally by: sutty
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 11:36:57
Originally by: Miso
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
Ok that I dont agree with, pvp comes down to skill of the players ,commander and communication, which imo is the key
Ok, I'll clarfy what I mean:
1 v 1's - winner is decided by luck (by that I mean, paper scissors stone, luck of the draw with loadouts)
blob v blob - winner is decided by the servers performance, numbers and how the those numbers are organised.
There is nothing else to PvP in Eve. If this game was*****pit view, a la Elite, then skill would come into play. Activating and deactiving modules with a mouse click requires no skill, I dont care what anyone says.
Rev - don't be an ass. Eve is full of them already.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:12:00 -
[97]
Miso Id probably stop digging that hole now if I was you.
1vs1 is luck ? So people like Homo Erectus etc who have UBER 1 on 1 kill ratio's are the luckiest guys on earth ??
Its like saying someone like Phil Hellmuth or Doyle Brunson are the luckiest guys on earth coz they've won the World Series of Poker on numerous occasions and made millions from the game. Yes there is luck involved but it takes skill to stand out.
To say PVP in EVE requires no skill is ludicrous
Of course loadouts and numbers come into the equation but moving any fleet around (and please dont beleive that any group of ships about 1 equates to a 'blob') requires co-ordination and communication which are skills in themselves.
EVE server struggles with any battle greater than about 20 vs 20 , only in those large battles do I think the dice roll of lag takes over.
Communication and decision making are as important as having the right load out !
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:12:00 -
[98]
Miso Id probably stop digging that hole now if I was you.
1vs1 is luck ? So people like Homo Erectus etc who have UBER 1 on 1 kill ratio's are the luckiest guys on earth ??
Its like saying someone like Phil Hellmuth or Doyle Brunson are the luckiest guys on earth coz they've won the World Series of Poker on numerous occasions and made millions from the game. Yes there is luck involved but it takes skill to stand out.
To say PVP in EVE requires no skill is ludicrous
Of course loadouts and numbers come into the equation but moving any fleet around (and please dont beleive that any group of ships about 1 equates to a 'blob') requires co-ordination and communication which are skills in themselves.
EVE server struggles with any battle greater than about 20 vs 20 , only in those large battles do I think the dice roll of lag takes over.
Communication and decision making are as important as having the right load out !
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:13:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Kaiser on 07/09/2004 13:19:22
Originally by: Miso
Edited by: Miso on 07/09/2004 12:48:07
Originally by: sutty
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 11:36:57
Originally by: Miso
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
Ok that I dont agree with, pvp comes down to skill of the players ,commander and communication, which imo is the key
Ok, I'll clarfy what I mean:
1 v 1's - winner is decided by luck (by that I mean, paper scissors stone, luck of the draw with loadouts)
blob v blob - winner is decided by the servers performance, numbers and how the those numbers are organised.
There is nothing else to PvP in Eve. If this game was*****pit view, a la Elite, then skill would come into play. Activating and deactiving modules with a mouse click requires no skill, I dont care what anyone says.
Rev - don't be an ass. Eve is full of them already.
This just means you never fighted, other than just as a pawn in a blob fleet.
1 vs 1...it's requires knowing well any ship, all modules. it's about to decide your setup trying to understand the enemy's one. it's about to maximize your setup and get the fight in the condition you want.
There are people who are deadly in 1 vs 1 (i am not one of those, i am just average). and it's not luck. it's a deep knowledge of the game.
for fleet battles...comunication, planning your attack (and so what anyone fits), deciding how to attack, deciding targets, what to do if others come, having the experience to understand when enemy is making a trap or when is just dumb, keeping the surprise with you, beeing disciplined in the fight, moving the fleet, reading the map...
yes, they all seems easy things. Fact is very few do those. you don't know how many times we fighted and our enemy didn't concentrate fire, or didn't see us coming, or panicked leaving their mates dieing.
Honestly, if you fight a group that does pvp regularly, and one who doesn't... you see a huge difference between the 2.
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Kaiser on 07/09/2004 13:19:22
Originally by: Miso
Edited by: Miso on 07/09/2004 12:48:07
Originally by: sutty
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 11:36:57
Originally by: Miso
Alot of it is hot-air and willy waggling. PvP is about luck, loadout and numbers. Not much skill involved in it at all if we're all honest. Most people aren't though
Ok that I dont agree with, pvp comes down to skill of the players ,commander and communication, which imo is the key
Ok, I'll clarfy what I mean:
1 v 1's - winner is decided by luck (by that I mean, paper scissors stone, luck of the draw with loadouts)
blob v blob - winner is decided by the servers performance, numbers and how the those numbers are organised.
There is nothing else to PvP in Eve. If this game was*****pit view, a la Elite, then skill would come into play. Activating and deactiving modules with a mouse click requires no skill, I dont care what anyone says.
Rev - don't be an ass. Eve is full of them already.
This just means you never fighted, other than just as a pawn in a blob fleet.
1 vs 1...it's requires knowing well any ship, all modules. it's about to decide your setup trying to understand the enemy's one. it's about to maximize your setup and get the fight in the condition you want.
There are people who are deadly in 1 vs 1 (i am not one of those, i am just average). and it's not luck. it's a deep knowledge of the game.
for fleet battles...comunication, planning your attack (and so what anyone fits), deciding how to attack, deciding targets, what to do if others come, having the experience to understand when enemy is making a trap or when is just dumb, keeping the surprise with you, beeing disciplined in the fight, moving the fleet, reading the map...
yes, they all seems easy things. Fact is very few do those. you don't know how many times we fighted and our enemy didn't concentrate fire, or didn't see us coming, or panicked leaving their mates dieing.
Honestly, if you fight a group that does pvp regularly, and one who doesn't... you see a huge difference between the 2.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Guderian on 07/09/2004 13:25:50
Originally by: Shadowthrone
U shouldnt declare wars on corps if u are not going to pursue them to the full. It will just make u look bad in the long run. But ill concede the point that i shouldn't judge you on the basis of that wars K/D ratio and Ill accept the consenus view on shinra pvpers but i still can't put you on my own personal list. As i said in my post I didnt mean it as a flame.
Granted, wars should not be declared unless persued to the fullest extend, and you just showed why . But at the time there were other issues that needed our immidiate attention. That is why it was retracted again.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Guderian on 07/09/2004 13:25:50
Originally by: Shadowthrone
U shouldnt declare wars on corps if u are not going to pursue them to the full. It will just make u look bad in the long run. But ill concede the point that i shouldn't judge you on the basis of that wars K/D ratio and Ill accept the consenus view on shinra pvpers but i still can't put you on my own personal list. As i said in my post I didnt mean it as a flame.
Granted, wars should not be declared unless persued to the fullest extend, and you just showed why . But at the time there were other issues that needed our immidiate attention. That is why it was retracted again.
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Zyanid
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:23:00 -
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How can most of you not mention The Jokers?
Coordination and experience? These guys are truely scary when it comes to combat and they are probobly more polite then any other pirates in the game.
If i had the possiblity to choose who i must get ganked by it would probobly be them.
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Zyanid
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:23:00 -
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How can most of you not mention The Jokers?
Coordination and experience? These guys are truely scary when it comes to combat and they are probobly more polite then any other pirates in the game.
If i had the possiblity to choose who i must get ganked by it would probobly be them.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Who do i apply preassure on from behind to get one? o.O
OMG
Didn't think you were like... THAT
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:26:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Who do i apply preassure on from behind to get one? o.O
OMG
Didn't think you were like... THAT
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:27:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Miso
Ok, I'll clarfy what I mean:
1 v 1's - winner is decided by luck (by that I mean, paper scissors stone, luck of the draw with loadouts)
blob v blob - winner is decided by the servers performance, numbers and how the those numbers are organised.
There is nothing else to PvP in Eve. If this game was*****pit view, a la Elite, then skill would come into play. Activating and deactiving modules with a mouse click requires no skill, I dont care what anyone says.
Rev - don't be an ass. Eve is full of them already.
Nope sorry, there is a fair amount of skill/ability required. Really good pvp comes down to good discipline, good comms and timing as much as anything else. You just come across as a inexperienced, clueless or going for the deliberate windup by claiming otherwise.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:27:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Miso
Ok, I'll clarfy what I mean:
1 v 1's - winner is decided by luck (by that I mean, paper scissors stone, luck of the draw with loadouts)
blob v blob - winner is decided by the servers performance, numbers and how the those numbers are organised.
There is nothing else to PvP in Eve. If this game was*****pit view, a la Elite, then skill would come into play. Activating and deactiving modules with a mouse click requires no skill, I dont care what anyone says.
Rev - don't be an ass. Eve is full of them already.
Nope sorry, there is a fair amount of skill/ability required. Really good pvp comes down to good discipline, good comms and timing as much as anything else. You just come across as a inexperienced, clueless or going for the deliberate windup by claiming otherwise.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:29:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Zyanid
How can most of you not mention The Jokers?
Coordination and experience? These guys are truely scary when it comes to combat and they are probobly more polite then any other pirates in the game.
If i had the possiblity to choose who i must get ganked by it would probobly be them.
Most actually mention the Jokers
However, they are (due to their numbers and choice of playstyle) mostly in very small skirmishes and so are not high.
They are very good
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:29:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Zyanid
How can most of you not mention The Jokers?
Coordination and experience? These guys are truely scary when it comes to combat and they are probobly more polite then any other pirates in the game.
If i had the possiblity to choose who i must get ganked by it would probobly be them.
Most actually mention the Jokers
However, they are (due to their numbers and choice of playstyle) mostly in very small skirmishes and so are not high.
They are very good
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:29:00 -
[111]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Who do i apply preassure on from behind to get one? o.O
OMG
Didn't think you were like... THAT
It's a CA tactical command. When duke first introduced this "tactical move" our gang wasn't really clear on how to implement it.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:29:00 -
[112]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Who do i apply preassure on from behind to get one? o.O
OMG
Didn't think you were like... THAT
It's a CA tactical command. When duke first introduced this "tactical move" our gang wasn't really clear on how to implement it.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:30:00 -
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My top 10...
1) Evol
2) Nemesis
3) m0o
4) OC
5) RKK
6) Jokers
7) Celestial Apoc
8) RONA-KIA
9) Zombie
10) Cataclysm Enterprises
I've spent very little time down south hence the lack of CA/SA/FA/XIF corps, OC are the only corp down there I've fought a couple of times and been impressed with. So a little northern bias to my list.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:30:00 -
[114]
My top 10...
1) Evol
2) Nemesis
3) m0o
4) OC
5) RKK
6) Jokers
7) Celestial Apoc
8) RONA-KIA
9) Zombie
10) Cataclysm Enterprises
I've spent very little time down south hence the lack of CA/SA/FA/XIF corps, OC are the only corp down there I've fought a couple of times and been impressed with. So a little northern bias to my list.
Eve Blacklight Style
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:43:00 -
[115]
How do, Rev here.
You'll be suprised what you don't know about me Proph, and you never complained before when i applied pressure to your behind.
Miso, reason i can be an ass to you is as follows. Firstly your in every thread saying "Alliances suck, you suck, the lot of you suck and what you talk about sucks!".
Your quite entitled to your opinion, but if your sick of the posts, and threads... ignore them?
Secondly, you've stated to me in the past when i questioned your knowledge of pvp that your "an expert in military and strategic combat" and indeed you "studied it". Accompanied by the fact that you are incharge of a corporation that performs pvp activity. These two areas along with the fact that you just said PvP is mostly luck leads me to assume that you are indeed, in regards to this subject, clueless. No REAL offense inteded, chap.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:43:00 -
[116]
How do, Rev here.
You'll be suprised what you don't know about me Proph, and you never complained before when i applied pressure to your behind.
Miso, reason i can be an ass to you is as follows. Firstly your in every thread saying "Alliances suck, you suck, the lot of you suck and what you talk about sucks!".
Your quite entitled to your opinion, but if your sick of the posts, and threads... ignore them?
Secondly, you've stated to me in the past when i questioned your knowledge of pvp that your "an expert in military and strategic combat" and indeed you "studied it". Accompanied by the fact that you are incharge of a corporation that performs pvp activity. These two areas along with the fact that you just said PvP is mostly luck leads me to assume that you are indeed, in regards to this subject, clueless. No REAL offense inteded, chap.
Edited, Discussion of mod actions are not permitted - Diagoro
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:44:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Miso on 07/09/2004 13:47:26
Originally by: Blacklight
going for the deliberate windup by claiming otherwise.
Part of it is windup part of it is my personal view and experience. I've PvP'd since i started playing Eve. I'm not a noob. I've just been spectacularly unimpressed with so many allegedly UBER PvP corps. From what ive seen, most corps are much of a muchness.
There is so much bull**** in this game, so much posturing, so much "I pwn you" crap, usually from people that need to be validated and feel big in front of their peers. Lame really.
Yeah, a few individuals stand out, I already acknowledged that, but certainly alot of standoffs revolve around praying your loadout is right for the job and watching a circle turn red.
Rev: whatever gets you off dude.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:44:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Miso on 07/09/2004 13:47:26
Originally by: Blacklight
going for the deliberate windup by claiming otherwise.
Part of it is windup part of it is my personal view and experience. I've PvP'd since i started playing Eve. I'm not a noob. I've just been spectacularly unimpressed with so many allegedly UBER PvP corps. From what ive seen, most corps are much of a muchness.
There is so much bull**** in this game, so much posturing, so much "I pwn you" crap, usually from people that need to be validated and feel big in front of their peers. Lame really.
Yeah, a few individuals stand out, I already acknowledged that, but certainly alot of standoffs revolve around praying your loadout is right for the job and watching a circle turn red.
Rev: whatever gets you off dude.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:51:00 -
[119]
Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
You'll be suprised what you don't know about me Proph, and you never complained before when i applied pressure to your behind.
Mas you kill me dude you get banned with one account, and come straight on and put pressure on another.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 13:51:00 -
[120]
Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
You'll be suprised what you don't know about me Proph, and you never complained before when i applied pressure to your behind.
Mas you kill me dude you get banned with one account, and come straight on and put pressure on another.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Razzil
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Razzil on 07/09/2004 14:33:22
I love these ranking threads. Here are my votes (Of course focussed on the CA <-> SA war, because of my lack of experience with the northern areas):
1. The Collective and Shinra (both of them are something special)
The Collective (I really love them!) because they are bloodthirsty mass-destruction maniacs, with huge experience and great tactical ability in combat (I still remember one scene on TS, Scout Info: 30+ CA are coming to you guys; Some COL Dude: hey cool, Razzil and me, we will engage them; Scout: What?; COL Dude: yeah we could go longrange and kill some of them).
And Shinra, because of their great tactical ability, when they are not part of a big CA BLOB. (You better only engage an even Shinra force, if you have the best scouts available, the majority of your warriors are veteran fighters with a lot of experience, and you have a good plan ready. It is really hard to kill Shinra, if Chowdown is in charge)
2. MASS (because of their kickass lone fighters behind enemy lines like Dalman and Zeal Dragon)
3. ATUK (They own and hold the paradise constellation within enemy main territory)
4. Tyrell, OC, BOS, VOTF (Very well known, very much experience, many good fighters within their ranks)
5. IGS (Because of our unique Interceptor Wing. If you would like to claim yourself the best ceptor pilots in EVE, come and try to ascend the throne. Phenom, Goeol Spirit, Ryan Mercury and Shadowjumper are waiting there for you.)
Evolution and m0o are belonging in here as well. But I dont have any experience with them, so I cant really evaluate them.
Of course there are many top PVP corps, but in my opinion The Collective and Shinra are outstanding.
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Razzil
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Razzil on 07/09/2004 14:33:22
I love these ranking threads. Here are my votes (Of course focussed on the CA <-> SA war, because of my lack of experience with the northern areas):
1. The Collective and Shinra (both of them are something special)
The Collective (I really love them!) because they are bloodthirsty mass-destruction maniacs, with huge experience and great tactical ability in combat (I still remember one scene on TS, Scout Info: 30+ CA are coming to you guys; Some COL Dude: hey cool, Razzil and me, we will engage them; Scout: What?; COL Dude: yeah we could go longrange and kill some of them).
And Shinra, because of their great tactical ability, when they are not part of a big CA BLOB. (You better only engage an even Shinra force, if you have the best scouts available, the majority of your warriors are veteran fighters with a lot of experience, and you have a good plan ready. It is really hard to kill Shinra, if Chowdown is in charge)
2. MASS (because of their kickass lone fighters behind enemy lines like Dalman and Zeal Dragon)
3. ATUK (They own and hold the paradise constellation within enemy main territory)
4. Tyrell, OC, BOS, VOTF (Very well known, very much experience, many good fighters within their ranks)
5. IGS (Because of our unique Interceptor Wing. If you would like to claim yourself the best ceptor pilots in EVE, come and try to ascend the throne. Phenom, Goeol Spirit, Ryan Mercury and Shadowjumper are waiting there for you.)
Evolution and m0o are belonging in here as well. But I dont have any experience with them, so I cant really evaluate them.
Of course there are many top PVP corps, but in my opinion The Collective and Shinra are outstanding.
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Rei Anayami
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:55:00 -
[123]
What is this top 10 list based upon?
Skill, reputation or style? If you go with skill, it would have to be the corporations with insane kill/death ratios like m0o, Jokers, evol, etc..
if you include reputation as part of the package, corps like celest would be up there.. as their playstyle is unique. Same with votf, oc, shinra, all have a reputation for being the top ca pvp corporations.
If you judge by style, possibly RUS for being suicidally agressive, and corps like Jokers (again) and BNC, LoD for keeping polite in local, and whatnot. Same with m0o for dropping the bomb on anyone they want, when they want.
All lists are therefore personal opinion depending on what each person views as most important, and who they have experience fighting against/with. Personally, I could not tell you even what my personal top 10 list would be, as I'm sure it wouldnt be very accurate, not having fought some alliances. But if I had to wager all my assets, I would have to say m0o and evolution would be the top two of any unbiased list, since they have time and again been able to take on entire alliances singlehandedly.
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Rei Anayami
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:55:00 -
[124]
What is this top 10 list based upon?
Skill, reputation or style? If you go with skill, it would have to be the corporations with insane kill/death ratios like m0o, Jokers, evol, etc..
if you include reputation as part of the package, corps like celest would be up there.. as their playstyle is unique. Same with votf, oc, shinra, all have a reputation for being the top ca pvp corporations.
If you judge by style, possibly RUS for being suicidally agressive, and corps like Jokers (again) and BNC, LoD for keeping polite in local, and whatnot. Same with m0o for dropping the bomb on anyone they want, when they want.
All lists are therefore personal opinion depending on what each person views as most important, and who they have experience fighting against/with. Personally, I could not tell you even what my personal top 10 list would be, as I'm sure it wouldnt be very accurate, not having fought some alliances. But if I had to wager all my assets, I would have to say m0o and evolution would be the top two of any unbiased list, since they have time and again been able to take on entire alliances singlehandedly.
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:18:00 -
[125]
Here is my list and its backed up by facts.
1. OC
2. VOTF
3. SHINRA
4. MASS
5. Zoners
6. Ota Corps
7. 7th Space Cavalry
8. Black Reign
9. M. Corp
10. Taggart Transdimensional
11. Spectre Knights
12. Stronghold Corp {I think}
Based on these Facts.
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
Top 10 ship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (1988) , Shinra (985) , Vengeance of the Fallen (939) , RUS (442) , Zoners (439) , Corp 1 (378) , M. Corp (318) , Taggart Transdimensional (307) , SPECTRE Knights (304) , Black Reign (295)
Top 10 pod killers (all involved parties, capsules only)
The Enslaver (72) , CKOZUK (72) , Lao Tzu (68) , Karien (61) , Piccilo (48) , DeMundus (44) , DJTheBaron (42) , Zelota (39) , Redon (37) , Christopher Scott (34)
mOo was a name of the past. Zombies ?
You do the math these numbers are backed up from the CMS system. Follow linkage and you can see.
Thanks
EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:18:00 -
[126]
Here is my list and its backed up by facts.
1. OC
2. VOTF
3. SHINRA
4. MASS
5. Zoners
6. Ota Corps
7. 7th Space Cavalry
8. Black Reign
9. M. Corp
10. Taggart Transdimensional
11. Spectre Knights
12. Stronghold Corp {I think}
Based on these Facts.
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
Top 10 ship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (1988) , Shinra (985) , Vengeance of the Fallen (939) , RUS (442) , Zoners (439) , Corp 1 (378) , M. Corp (318) , Taggart Transdimensional (307) , SPECTRE Knights (304) , Black Reign (295)
Top 10 pod killers (all involved parties, capsules only)
The Enslaver (72) , CKOZUK (72) , Lao Tzu (68) , Karien (61) , Piccilo (48) , DeMundus (44) , DJTheBaron (42) , Zelota (39) , Redon (37) , Christopher Scott (34)
mOo was a name of the past. Zombies ?
You do the math these numbers are backed up from the CMS system. Follow linkage and you can see.
Thanks
EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters
** Ghost Fleet Pilot **
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:21:00 -
[127]
I sense CMS bashing coming.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:21:00 -
[128]
I sense CMS bashing coming.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:21:00 -
[129]
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 15:23:17
EvilDoomer we have 1562 comfirmed battleship kills since the list was started.
hello
oh and according to a dev a few months ago, Tank CEO had over 800 pod kills. So he must be near 1000 now.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:21:00 -
[130]
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 15:23:17
EvilDoomer we have 1562 comfirmed battleship kills since the list was started.
hello
oh and according to a dev a few months ago, Tank CEO had over 800 pod kills. So he must be near 1000 now.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:22:00 -
[131]
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 07/09/2004 15:28:51
Originally by: EvilDoomer
Here is my list and its backed up by facts.
1. OC
2. VOTF
3. SHINRA
4. MASS
5. Zoners
6. Ota Corps
7. 7th Space Cavalry
8. Black Reign
9. M. Corp
10. Taggart Transdimensional
11. Spectre Knights
12. Stronghold Corp {I think}
Based on these Facts.
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
Top 10 ship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (1988) , Shinra (985) , Vengeance of the Fallen (939) , RUS (442) , Zoners (439) , Corp 1 (378) , M. Corp (318) , Taggart Transdimensional (307) , SPECTRE Knights (304) , Black Reign (295)
Top 10 pod killers (all involved parties, capsules only)
The Enslaver (72) , CKOZUK (72) , Lao Tzu (68) , Karien (61) , Piccilo (48) , DeMundus (44) , DJTheBaron (42) , Zelota (39) , Redon (37) , Christopher Scott (34)
mOo was a name of the past. Zombies ?
You do the math these numbers are backed up from the CMS system. Follow linkage and you can see.
This is from a CA site and does not take other corps into account so this would make it the top 10 CA Corps not Eves.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:22:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 07/09/2004 15:28:51
Originally by: EvilDoomer
Here is my list and its backed up by facts.
1. OC
2. VOTF
3. SHINRA
4. MASS
5. Zoners
6. Ota Corps
7. 7th Space Cavalry
8. Black Reign
9. M. Corp
10. Taggart Transdimensional
11. Spectre Knights
12. Stronghold Corp {I think}
Based on these Facts.
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
Top 10 ship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (1988) , Shinra (985) , Vengeance of the Fallen (939) , RUS (442) , Zoners (439) , Corp 1 (378) , M. Corp (318) , Taggart Transdimensional (307) , SPECTRE Knights (304) , Black Reign (295)
Top 10 pod killers (all involved parties, capsules only)
The Enslaver (72) , CKOZUK (72) , Lao Tzu (68) , Karien (61) , Piccilo (48) , DeMundus (44) , DJTheBaron (42) , Zelota (39) , Redon (37) , Christopher Scott (34)
mOo was a name of the past. Zombies ?
You do the math these numbers are backed up from the CMS system. Follow linkage and you can see.
This is from a CA site and does not take other corps into account so this would make it the top 10 CA Corps not Eves.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:27:00 -
[133]
thanks for the laughs Evil Doomer, that was priceless
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:27:00 -
[134]
thanks for the laughs Evil Doomer, that was priceless
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:37:00 -
[135]
Originally by: sutty
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 15:23:17
EvilDoomer we have 1562 comfirmed battleship kills since the list was started.
hello
oh and according to a dev a few months ago, Tank CEO had over 800 pod kills. So he must be near 1000 now.
Not quite 1562, we have a couple of cruisers and interceptors on it.
Ľ©Ľ
a history |
Riddari
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:37:00 -
[136]
Originally by: sutty
Edited by: sutty on 07/09/2004 15:23:17
EvilDoomer we have 1562 comfirmed battleship kills since the list was started.
hello
oh and according to a dev a few months ago, Tank CEO had over 800 pod kills. So he must be near 1000 now.
Not quite 1562, we have a couple of cruisers and interceptors on it.
Ľ©Ľ
a history |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:41:00 -
[137]
There isn't, that list is for battleships only, or should be
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:41:00 -
[138]
There isn't, that list is for battleships only, or should be
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:46:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Cowboy on 07/09/2004 15:51:06
BS Kills
455 total
Our list is from Feb this year to current.
props to m0o and their list.
"Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are
the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is
punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the
world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:46:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Cowboy on 07/09/2004 15:51:06
BS Kills
455 total
Our list is from Feb this year to current.
props to m0o and their list.
"Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are
the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is
punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the
world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:47:00 -
[141]
Originally by: EvilDoomer
Here is my list and its backed up by facts.
1. OC
2. VOTF
3. SHINRA
4. MASS
5. Zoners
6. Ota Corps
7. 7th Space Cavalry
8. Black Reign
9. M. Corp
10. Taggart Transdimensional
11. Spectre Knights
12. Stronghold Corp {I think}
Based on these Facts.
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
Top 10 ship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (1988) , Shinra (985) , Vengeance of the Fallen (939) , RUS (442) , Zoners (439) , Corp 1 (378) , M. Corp (318) , Taggart Transdimensional (307) , SPECTRE Knights (304) , Black Reign (295)
Top 10 pod killers (all involved parties, capsules only)
The Enslaver (72) , CKOZUK (72) , Lao Tzu (68) , Karien (61) , Piccilo (48) , DeMundus (44) , DJTheBaron (42) , Zelota (39) , Redon (37) , Christopher Scott (34)
mOo was a name of the past. Zombies ?
You do the math these numbers are backed up from the CMS system. Follow linkage and you can see.
Since we started our kill list in may we have killed 400+ battleship and close to 1000 ships total shown here kill list
respect to m0o for the 1500 kills but that is easy when you dont have to hunt far for targets
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:47:00 -
[142]
Originally by: EvilDoomer
Here is my list and its backed up by facts.
1. OC
2. VOTF
3. SHINRA
4. MASS
5. Zoners
6. Ota Corps
7. 7th Space Cavalry
8. Black Reign
9. M. Corp
10. Taggart Transdimensional
11. Spectre Knights
12. Stronghold Corp {I think}
Based on these Facts.
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
Top 10 ship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (1988) , Shinra (985) , Vengeance of the Fallen (939) , RUS (442) , Zoners (439) , Corp 1 (378) , M. Corp (318) , Taggart Transdimensional (307) , SPECTRE Knights (304) , Black Reign (295)
Top 10 pod killers (all involved parties, capsules only)
The Enslaver (72) , CKOZUK (72) , Lao Tzu (68) , Karien (61) , Piccilo (48) , DeMundus (44) , DJTheBaron (42) , Zelota (39) , Redon (37) , Christopher Scott (34)
mOo was a name of the past. Zombies ?
You do the math these numbers are backed up from the CMS system. Follow linkage and you can see.
Since we started our kill list in may we have killed 400+ battleship and close to 1000 ships total shown here kill list
respect to m0o for the 1500 kills but that is easy when you dont have to hunt far for targets
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:05:00 -
[143]
Nice m0o.
Former Member of Omega Corp |
HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:05:00 -
[144]
Nice m0o.
Former Member of Omega Corp |
Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:10:00 -
[145]
thats from CA cms (Kills of the last 2 months only):
Killed Battleships : 950
Killed Cruisers : 851
Killed intys/Covert ops : 482
Thats 2283 kills in 2 month by CA. we have also other on the list like frigates, indies... but it helps to compare other lists
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CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:10:00 -
[146]
thats from CA cms (Kills of the last 2 months only):
Killed Battleships : 950
Killed Cruisers : 851
Killed intys/Covert ops : 482
Thats 2283 kills in 2 month by CA. we have also other on the list like frigates, indies... but it helps to compare other lists
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CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:14:00 -
[147]
yeah but corps are like 30 active, you are 1000 according to lallante 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:14:00 -
[148]
yeah but corps are like 30 active, you are 1000 according to lallante
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:20:00 -
[149]
Originally by: sutty
yeah but corps are like 30 active, you are 1000 according to lallante
RIGHT, whoever believes that is on ***** . The m0o guys used to be on ts and know our numbers.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:20:00 -
[150]
Originally by: sutty
yeah but corps are like 30 active, you are 1000 according to lallante
RIGHT, whoever believes that is on ***** . The m0o guys used to be on ts and know our numbers.
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Thanit
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:24:00 -
[151]
Are kills the only stat involved then ?
I mean, what about losses, tactics, organisation and fleet command ? How about conduct and willpower ?
Running after getting bored cause of everyone hiding at a safe fro two days is a minus in my vieuw. To make it as a militairy oen must also show patience and the will to sit out a war even if it is boring at times.
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Thanit
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:24:00 -
[152]
Are kills the only stat involved then ?
I mean, what about losses, tactics, organisation and fleet command ? How about conduct and willpower ?
Running after getting bored cause of everyone hiding at a safe fro two days is a minus in my vieuw. To make it as a militairy oen must also show patience and the will to sit out a war even if it is boring at times.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:12:00 -
[153]
My list was done by experience with the corporation listed. Thats why m0o is not that high. Havent got much to do with them.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:12:00 -
[154]
My list was done by experience with the corporation listed. Thats why m0o is not that high. Havent got much to do with them.
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infinity
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:46:00 -
[155]
1. Shinra (chowdown, lallenta and da monk have shown there strength and have made shinra the most fear corp in with SA)
2. Atuk (Thouse guys sure do rock and always fun being in a gang with them)
3. Mass (No need to say anything about em everyone knows how good they are)
4. IGS (Best scouts ingame without doubt. No gang is good without them)
5. RUS (Good fighters could be more active but they got few elite pilot who make us feel they are still alive)
6. m00 (I know ****t load of m00s and all i know in there are pro pvp fighters who know what they are doing)
7. Evol (Not sure how they are doing today but i know they have solid leaders and can make damage when they want to. I have seen them in action and i would fear em if they where hunting me)
8. OC. (They sure know how to gank in big groups :) But what really bothers me and why i have lost most of my respect to them are thouse few idiot who have nothing better to do then smacktalk in local and showingng off at forum vi poitless threats or lies. Sory guys u would be better if u would skip thouse smacktalkers)
9. VOFT ( They been around for a long time and got many good figters but like OC there are to many idiots in there who have nothing better to do then smack in local and forums.)
10. hmm cant really think of anyone atm so ill put Aeryn sun here for great job holding sa fleet togethere. U have done amazing job dude and be afraid when he log on because there will be a action.
Respect to ca for being there and thanks for all the fun.
And thank to all who have talked good about COL. We do our best to keep this more fun for everyone without smack.
see u all around in the field.
Over and out
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infinity
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:46:00 -
[156]
1. Shinra (chowdown, lallenta and da monk have shown there strength and have made shinra the most fear corp in with SA)
2. Atuk (Thouse guys sure do rock and always fun being in a gang with them)
3. Mass (No need to say anything about em everyone knows how good they are)
4. IGS (Best scouts ingame without doubt. No gang is good without them)
5. RUS (Good fighters could be more active but they got few elite pilot who make us feel they are still alive)
6. m00 (I know ****t load of m00s and all i know in there are pro pvp fighters who know what they are doing)
7. Evol (Not sure how they are doing today but i know they have solid leaders and can make damage when they want to. I have seen them in action and i would fear em if they where hunting me)
8. OC. (They sure know how to gank in big groups :) But what really bothers me and why i have lost most of my respect to them are thouse few idiot who have nothing better to do then smacktalk in local and showingng off at forum vi poitless threats or lies. Sory guys u would be better if u would skip thouse smacktalkers)
9. VOFT ( They been around for a long time and got many good figters but like OC there are to many idiots in there who have nothing better to do then smack in local and forums.)
10. hmm cant really think of anyone atm so ill put Aeryn sun here for great job holding sa fleet togethere. U have done amazing job dude and be afraid when he log on because there will be a action.
Respect to ca for being there and thanks for all the fun.
And thank to all who have talked good about COL. We do our best to keep this more fun for everyone without smack.
see u all around in the field.
Over and out
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Diagoro
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Posted - 2004.09.07 18:54:00 -
[157]
Keep it friendly & on-topic please :)
EVE Forum Rules - Contact the Moderator Team |
Diagoro
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Posted - 2004.09.07 18:54:00 -
[158]
Keep it friendly & on-topic please :)
EVE Forum Rules - Contact the Moderator Team |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.09.07 18:58:00 -
[159]
Edited by: Bared Bel'Medar on 07/09/2004 19:04:42
Well, I dont think you can make a top 10, because I only know of 3 that are entities in and of themselves.
If I had to pick the TOP corps, I would chose
m0o Corp
Evolution
Equalibria
Arcane Technologies
If I had to chose Elite corps, the ones that are bass ass but not so bad ass they can take on alliances themselves (in no particuler order):
MASS
Omega Corp
The Collective
Species 5618
Storm Guard Elite
Shinra
Vengance of the Fallen
Sol'Invictus
RUS
Body Count Inc
Solor Wind
Section XIII
Intergalactic Serentity
Ota Corp
Phantom Squad
Corp 1
Hegemonic Core
Frog Morton
Tyrell Corp
I really dont think most others belong on the list, as they are either too small, or just good. But then, I think most SA and CA pvpers are far and away better than thier contemporaries on the outside.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.09.07 18:58:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Bared Bel'Medar on 07/09/2004 19:04:42
Well, I dont think you can make a top 10, because I only know of 3 that are entities in and of themselves.
If I had to pick the TOP corps, I would chose
m0o Corp
Evolution
Equalibria
Arcane Technologies
If I had to chose Elite corps, the ones that are bass ass but not so bad ass they can take on alliances themselves (in no particuler order):
MASS
Omega Corp
The Collective
Species 5618
Storm Guard Elite
Shinra
Vengance of the Fallen
Sol'Invictus
RUS
Body Count Inc
Solor Wind
Section XIII
Intergalactic Serentity
Ota Corp
Phantom Squad
Corp 1
Hegemonic Core
Frog Morton
Tyrell Corp
I really dont think most others belong on the list, as they are either too small, or just good. But then, I think most SA and CA pvpers are far and away better than thier contemporaries on the outside.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Stained
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:05:00 -
[161]
Edited by: Stained on 07/09/2004 19:14:50
Lallante is on *****?
Seriously though, I was on CA TS the other night. You guys have 60+ on TS at any given time. So yea, you guys have The numbers over any single corp in the game.
P.S CA's size has grown alot sence we left.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:05:00 -
[162]
Edited by: Stained on 07/09/2004 19:14:50
Lallante is on *****?
Seriously though, I was on CA TS the other night. You guys have 60+ on TS at any given time. So yea, you guys have The numbers over any single corp in the game.
P.S CA's size has grown alot sence we left.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:14:00 -
[163]
Originally by: infinity
OC. But what really bothers me and why i have lost most of my respect to them are thouse few idiot who have nothing better to do then smacktalk in local and showingng off at forum vi poitless threats or lies. Sory guys u would be better if u would skip thouse smacktalkers)
Well infinity, Collective had lost loads of respect from us long before that. You know when you guys asked us for a NAP? Cus you were leaving SA? then we let ****lods of your indies pass by, and then you guys started shooting us again after 1 week? To see you talk about honour and respect when your corp has pulled something like that off is..... funny.
You still are good fighters though. And yes OC off course only gank ppl when we outnumber every1 12000-1.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:14:00 -
[164]
Originally by: infinity
OC. But what really bothers me and why i have lost most of my respect to them are thouse few idiot who have nothing better to do then smacktalk in local and showingng off at forum vi poitless threats or lies. Sory guys u would be better if u would skip thouse smacktalkers)
Well infinity, Collective had lost loads of respect from us long before that. You know when you guys asked us for a NAP? Cus you were leaving SA? then we let ****lods of your indies pass by, and then you guys started shooting us again after 1 week? To see you talk about honour and respect when your corp has pulled something like that off is..... funny.
You still are good fighters though. And yes OC off course only gank ppl when we outnumber every1 12000-1.
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NeverL
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:33:00 -
[165]
1.KUNN
2.sYnck
3.LOTK
4.maGikal
5.eWp
6.TCS
7.o2
8.Traug
9.ERA
10.d.sky
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NeverL
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:33:00 -
[166]
1.KUNN
2.sYnck
3.LOTK
4.maGikal
5.eWp
6.TCS
7.o2
8.Traug
9.ERA
10.d.sky
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:38:00 -
[167]
Well, you see the reason these threds kind of dies out is that they get filled with smacktalk so quickly.
Now. My biased PvP/Decentness list:
1 mOo
- You don't need space to be part of alliance politics. You don't need miners either.
2 Arcane Technologies
- 2+ hours battle against them and later a Cease Fire. Great fun.
3. MASS
- Allies always get more respect you know.
4. OC
- While enemies get a little less.
5. The Corporation
- I told you it was biased. Otherwise you can ask RUS, UAI, and company where they got their current PvP fitting from.
6. Black Avatar
- Will represent FA in this list. Their fleet movements are honed to a point when it's scary
The list will have to stop there due to personal lack of widely varied PvP experience (as in, I don't fight all the alliances in the game, nor do I fight with them).
So far I am unimpressed with most CA corporations (my primary opponent) that I've fought. Fleet battles are unimpressive and safespot-dodging is boring. My own personal oppinion, so don't flame the previous sentence if you have never seen me in game before, ok?
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If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. |
Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:38:00 -
[168]
Well, you see the reason these threds kind of dies out is that they get filled with smacktalk so quickly.
Now. My biased PvP/Decentness list:
1 mOo
- You don't need space to be part of alliance politics. You don't need miners either.
2 Arcane Technologies
- 2+ hours battle against them and later a Cease Fire. Great fun.
3. MASS
- Allies always get more respect you know.
4. OC
- While enemies get a little less.
5. The Corporation
- I told you it was biased. Otherwise you can ask RUS, UAI, and company where they got their current PvP fitting from.
6. Black Avatar
- Will represent FA in this list. Their fleet movements are honed to a point when it's scary
The list will have to stop there due to personal lack of widely varied PvP experience (as in, I don't fight all the alliances in the game, nor do I fight with them).
So far I am unimpressed with most CA corporations (my primary opponent) that I've fought. Fleet battles are unimpressive and safespot-dodging is boring. My own personal oppinion, so don't flame the previous sentence if you have never seen me in game before, ok?
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If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. |
Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:39:00 -
[169]
Edited by: Jadrut on 07/09/2004 21:42:35
my top 10 reasons why this thread should be locked, destroyed and force fed to squirrels:
- its a waste of bandwidth
- everyones votes for themselves/their own alliances
- top 10's suck
- people get big headed because of it
- people are too stupid to realise theyre pointless
- most of the eve population arent represented by them
- theyre cliche
- they make baby stavros cry
- they usually end up being a huge flamefest
- they never have any real point
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:39:00 -
[170]
Edited by: Jadrut on 07/09/2004 21:42:35
my top 10 reasons why this thread should be locked, destroyed and force fed to squirrels:
- its a waste of bandwidth
- everyones votes for themselves/their own alliances
- top 10's suck
- people get big headed because of it
- people are too stupid to realise theyre pointless
- most of the eve population arent represented by them
- theyre cliche
- they make baby stavros cry
- they usually end up being a huge flamefest
- they never have any real point
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:39:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Estios
Miso Id probably stop digging that hole now if I was you.
1vs1 is luck ? So people like Homo Erectus etc who have UBER 1 on 1 kill ratio's are the luckiest guys on earth ??
Its like saying someone like Phil Hellmuth or Doyle Brunson are the luckiest guys on earth coz they've won the World Series of Poker on numerous occasions and made millions from the game. Yes there is luck involved but it takes skill to stand out.
To say PVP in EVE requires no skill is ludicrous
Of course loadouts and numbers come into the equation but moving any fleet around (and please dont beleive that any group of ships about 1 equates to a 'blob') requires co-ordination and communication which are skills in themselves.
EVE server struggles with any battle greater than about 20 vs 20 , only in those large battles do I think the dice roll of lag takes over.
Communication and decision making are as important as having the right load out !
If you are referring to the WSOP Main event, Phil Hellmuth only won that once, however if you are referring to the entire thing then yes you are correct. However, if you were referring to the Main Event then i would have said Jonny Chan instead of Phil Hellmuth because Chan won it twice, back to back.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:39:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Estios
Miso Id probably stop digging that hole now if I was you.
1vs1 is luck ? So people like Homo Erectus etc who have UBER 1 on 1 kill ratio's are the luckiest guys on earth ??
Its like saying someone like Phil Hellmuth or Doyle Brunson are the luckiest guys on earth coz they've won the World Series of Poker on numerous occasions and made millions from the game. Yes there is luck involved but it takes skill to stand out.
To say PVP in EVE requires no skill is ludicrous
Of course loadouts and numbers come into the equation but moving any fleet around (and please dont beleive that any group of ships about 1 equates to a 'blob') requires co-ordination and communication which are skills in themselves.
EVE server struggles with any battle greater than about 20 vs 20 , only in those large battles do I think the dice roll of lag takes over.
Communication and decision making are as important as having the right load out !
If you are referring to the WSOP Main event, Phil Hellmuth only won that once, however if you are referring to the entire thing then yes you are correct. However, if you were referring to the Main Event then i would have said Jonny Chan instead of Phil Hellmuth because Chan won it twice, back to back.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:56:00 -
[173]
1. RUS
2. VOTF
3. MASS
4. Zombie
5. The Collective
6. Alcohol fueled
7. Biomass Cartel
8. Space invaders
9. Tank CEO and his angel cartel. 
10. T REX spandex shop.
__________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |
DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:56:00 -
[174]
1. RUS
2. VOTF
3. MASS
4. Zombie
5. The Collective
6. Alcohol fueled
7. Biomass Cartel
8. Space invaders
9. Tank CEO and his angel cartel.
10. T REX spandex shop.
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http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |
Cleopatera
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:10:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Edited by: Bared Bel'Medar on 07/09/2004 19:04:42
Well, I dont think you can make a top 10, because I only know of 3 that are entities in and of themselves.
If I had to pick the TOP corps, I would chose
m0o Corp
Evolution
Equilibria
Arcane Technologies
Bared, I dont think we deserve a mention in this thread really.
And too many flames already, it's gonna get locked soon without a doubt.
I'm not gonna past a top ten, more some honorable mentions.... in no particular order
Evolution, m0o, Zombies, Shinra, CELEST, RKK, MASS and RUS
I like all of these corps, and they have earned my respect as pvpers
ps: its spelt Equlibria!! i edited my quote for ya bared
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Cleopatera
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:10:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Edited by: Bared Bel'Medar on 07/09/2004 19:04:42
Well, I dont think you can make a top 10, because I only know of 3 that are entities in and of themselves.
If I had to pick the TOP corps, I would chose
m0o Corp
Evolution
Equilibria
Arcane Technologies
Bared, I dont think we deserve a mention in this thread really.
And too many flames already, it's gonna get locked soon without a doubt.
I'm not gonna past a top ten, more some honorable mentions.... in no particular order
Evolution, m0o, Zombies, Shinra, CELEST, RKK, MASS and RUS
I like all of these corps, and they have earned my respect as pvpers
ps: its spelt Equlibria!! i edited my quote for ya bared
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:27:00 -
[177]
Ok guys, time to not be serious.
1. J3SUS Corp, I mean, I'm like just some godly second coming to pvp, Ask Sassinak, or xirtam, taught 'em both how to use clones
2. Any CFS corp (because they can WTFPWN anything)
3. JF, I mean, C'mon. They've got jade.. what other excuse do you have to fight?
4. Any Xetic corp (they pwned CA in that war, True tactitions).
5. Xanadu.. Because in their minds, they always win. Can't beat things that don't happen eh?
6. What was their name.. uh.. Organ grinders, for perfecting the art of sitting in a station and claiming a region is open to the public.
7. CELES, for perfecting "Victorious retreats".
8. Those guys with a [FFS] corp ticker, You just can't beat that.
9. OC, but that's rating them pretty high, since they've got that NUB Enslaver in there.
10. VOTF when they're not suckin off veldspar (which is never)
There you have it, The Real Kings of PvP. (i'm just like gods son !!
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence!
Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is.
Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing!
Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:27:00 -
[178]
Ok guys, time to not be serious.
1. J3SUS Corp, I mean, I'm like just some godly second coming to pvp, Ask Sassinak, or xirtam, taught 'em both how to use clones
2. Any CFS corp (because they can WTFPWN anything)
3. JF, I mean, C'mon. They've got jade.. what other excuse do you have to fight?
4. Any Xetic corp (they pwned CA in that war, True tactitions).
5. Xanadu.. Because in their minds, they always win. Can't beat things that don't happen eh?
6. What was their name.. uh.. Organ grinders, for perfecting the art of sitting in a station and claiming a region is open to the public.
7. CELES, for perfecting "Victorious retreats".
8. Those guys with a [FFS] corp ticker, You just can't beat that.
9. OC, but that's rating them pretty high, since they've got that NUB Enslaver in there.
10. VOTF when they're not suckin off veldspar (which is never)
There you have it, The Real Kings of PvP. (i'm just like gods son !!
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence!
Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is.
Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing!
Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Stavros
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:32:00 -
[179]
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:32:00 -
[180]
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
--
"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:34:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Asmodia
1) m0o
2) Omega Corp
3) TunDraGon (they have more kills as m0o with only 1/3 of members.)
4) ShinRa
5) VOTF
6) Celes (very good organzied now)
7) MASS
8) The.Collective
9) Red Brigades (really good Anti-FA corp)
10) Evolution
Zombies joined m0o. Same for Space Invaders. Why ppl ranked them ? n00bs, get some spies in other corps .
sadly we have not really much more than 10 active members
but since were mostly hunting in frigs and rarly in BS I think we still do fine
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:34:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Asmodia
1) m0o
2) Omega Corp
3) TunDraGon (they have more kills as m0o with only 1/3 of members.)
4) ShinRa
5) VOTF
6) Celes (very good organzied now)
7) MASS
8) The.Collective
9) Red Brigades (really good Anti-FA corp)
10) Evolution
Zombies joined m0o. Same for Space Invaders. Why ppl ranked them ? n00bs, get some spies in other corps .
sadly we have not really much more than 10 active members
but since were mostly hunting in frigs and rarly in BS I think we still do fine
Wanna fly with me?
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:40:00 -
[183]
Quote:
3) TunDraGon (they have more kills as m0o with only 1/3 of members.)
wtf no way !!
their kill list is still impressive though :) |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:40:00 -
[184]
Quote:
3) TunDraGon (they have more kills as m0o with only 1/3 of members.)
wtf no way !!
their kill list is still impressive though :) |
Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:43:00 -
[185]
The kill list is only some days old Thats the work of 2 weeks or so.
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CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:43:00 -
[186]
The kill list is only some days old Thats the work of 2 weeks or so.
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CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:45:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
True dat
___________________________________________________________________
Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:45:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
True dat
___________________________________________________________________
Hair is Over-rated.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:52:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Asmodia
The kill list is only some days old Thats the work of 2 weeks or so.
nah we have some older kills in there too, but dont think we gathered all kill mails by now
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:52:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Asmodia
The kill list is only some days old Thats the work of 2 weeks or so.
nah we have some older kills in there too, but dont think we gathered all kill mails by now
Wanna fly with me?
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:04:00 -
[191]
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:04:00 -
[192]
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
whejl
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:14:00 -
[193]
Originally by: darth solo
1.jokers
You bet! ;)
Originally by: darth solo
9. blades
No, not anymore, but we'll return
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whejl
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:14:00 -
[194]
Originally by: darth solo
1.jokers
You bet! ;)
Originally by: darth solo
9. blades
No, not anymore, but we'll return
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slip66
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:23:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Asmodia
thats from CA cms (Kills of the last 2 months only):
Killed Battleships : 950
Killed Cruisers : 851
Killed intys/Covert ops : 482
Thats 2283 kills in 2 month by CA. we have also other on the list like frigates, indies... but it helps to compare other lists
yup! MOOs is VERY impressive though.
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slip66
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:23:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Asmodia
thats from CA cms (Kills of the last 2 months only):
Killed Battleships : 950
Killed Cruisers : 851
Killed intys/Covert ops : 482
Thats 2283 kills in 2 month by CA. we have also other on the list like frigates, indies... but it helps to compare other lists
yup! MOOs is VERY impressive though.
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:24:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
Interesting point of views Stavros. This is how I see it.
I do not share your opinion that PvP corporations are weak for making the choice of being in an alliance. PvP corporations donĆt necessary need to have an alliance to back them up.
A PvP corporation in an alliance might instead of being carried by the alliance supporting it in fields the alliance like training, leading and defending etc. This is just a way in how you chose to play the game.
This does not make the corporation weaker than a roving band going from area to area. A roving band can always move to another area and still not be seen as weak by just claiming they are nomads etc.
I think you might agree that (at least to a certain point) it is easier to attack than defend space. I am not referring to jump in lagg etc, but region control as a whole.
However having said that it is tempting sometimes just to pack it up and go ônomadö (corporation wise) when the politics gets too thickŕ
We all get restless sometimes.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:24:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
Interesting point of views Stavros. This is how I see it.
I do not share your opinion that PvP corporations are weak for making the choice of being in an alliance. PvP corporations donĆt necessary need to have an alliance to back them up.
A PvP corporation in an alliance might instead of being carried by the alliance supporting it in fields the alliance like training, leading and defending etc. This is just a way in how you chose to play the game.
This does not make the corporation weaker than a roving band going from area to area. A roving band can always move to another area and still not be seen as weak by just claiming they are nomads etc.
I think you might agree that (at least to a certain point) it is easier to attack than defend space. I am not referring to jump in lagg etc, but region control as a whole.
However having said that it is tempting sometimes just to pack it up and go ônomadö (corporation wise) when the politics gets too thickŕ
We all get restless sometimes.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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slip66
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:32:00 -
[199]
Originally by: olyyy
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
killing maybe losing no, Id say 95% of the corps mentioned on here are self sufficient and build thier own, or they have deals with friendly corps.
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slip66
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:32:00 -
[200]
Originally by: olyyy
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
killing maybe losing no, Id say 95% of the corps mentioned on here are self sufficient and build thier own, or they have deals with friendly corps.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:52:00 -
[201]
Originally by: slip66
Originally by: olyyy
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
killing maybe losing no, Id say 95% of the corps mentioned on here are self sufficient and build thier own, or they have deals with friendly corps.
Slip, dont break his little french heart like that.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:52:00 -
[202]
Originally by: slip66
Originally by: olyyy
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
killing maybe losing no, Id say 95% of the corps mentioned on here are self sufficient and build thier own, or they have deals with friendly corps.
Slip, dont break his little french heart like that.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:20:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: slip66
Originally by: olyyy
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
killing maybe losing no, Id say 95% of the corps mentioned on here are self sufficient and build thier own, or they have deals with friendly corps.
Slip, dont break his little french heart like that.
well still xetic have lots of producers
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:20:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: slip66
Originally by: olyyy
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
killing maybe losing no, Id say 95% of the corps mentioned on here are self sufficient and build thier own, or they have deals with friendly corps.
Slip, dont break his little french heart like that.
well still xetic have lots of producers
Wanna fly with me?
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:48:00 -
[205]
m0o's only weakness is severe ADD of 99% of the members, which leads to alot of won fights, but also alot of lost wars (imho).
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:48:00 -
[206]
m0o's only weakness is severe ADD of 99% of the members, which leads to alot of won fights, but also alot of lost wars (imho).
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:58:00 -
[207]
Clarification on what nego said, we're like cows and we like green pastures. When we move to a region it gets the living sh*t grazed out of it. Soon there aren't very good patches of grass left to eat, thus our members get hungry and start wandering towards other regions.. letting the old region regrow.
If you still didnt get that.. it means we gank everything in sight but then people eventually stop operating where we are, and the place becomes deserted. Our members get bored and move on. Its one of the reasons you won't see m0o staying in one spot for half a year, by then anyone still thinking they could mine there in peace is long gone.
Examples of places that have been "over-grazed"
-Querious
-Syndicate
-Venal
-and soon to be Pure Blind
_____________________________________
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
"Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:58:00 -
[208]
Clarification on what nego said, we're like cows and we like green pastures. When we move to a region it gets the living sh*t grazed out of it. Soon there aren't very good patches of grass left to eat, thus our members get hungry and start wandering towards other regions.. letting the old region regrow.
If you still didnt get that.. it means we gank everything in sight but then people eventually stop operating where we are, and the place becomes deserted. Our members get bored and move on. Its one of the reasons you won't see m0o staying in one spot for half a year, by then anyone still thinking they could mine there in peace is long gone.
Examples of places that have been "over-grazed"
-Querious
-Syndicate
-Venal
-and soon to be Pure Blind
_____________________________________
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
"Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:59:00 -
[209]
Quote:
m0o's only weakness is severe ADD of 99% of the members, which leads to alot of won fights, but also alot of lost wars (imho).
I completely agree. Some dogs have longer attention spans, so its not very long if you can imagine.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:59:00 -
[210]
Quote:
m0o's only weakness is severe ADD of 99% of the members, which leads to alot of won fights, but also alot of lost wars (imho).
I completely agree. Some dogs have longer attention spans, so its not very long if you can imagine.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:17:00 -
[211]
I don't like these top ten lists, there are probably 50 corps that you could squeeze in between a one and ten ranking. Some are too close to call and some people who deserve to be on the list, as good as any other corp on the list, don't make it because you have only 10 slots available.
I can name a few favorites though (in no order):
m0o, Evolution, ATUK, MASS, The Collective, OC, Shinra, Zoners, Zombies, RUS, VOTF and probably at least ten more I'm forgetting.
These are the corps you fear, respect, and get your heart pounding in battles. They are also the ones you boast about killing.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:17:00 -
[212]
I don't like these top ten lists, there are probably 50 corps that you could squeeze in between a one and ten ranking. Some are too close to call and some people who deserve to be on the list, as good as any other corp on the list, don't make it because you have only 10 slots available.
I can name a few favorites though (in no order):
m0o, Evolution, ATUK, MASS, The Collective, OC, Shinra, Zoners, Zombies, RUS, VOTF and probably at least ten more I'm forgetting.
These are the corps you fear, respect, and get your heart pounding in battles. They are also the ones you boast about killing.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:37:00 -
[213]
not a single mention of CRICE CORP =/ what a pity.... haha
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Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:37:00 -
[214]
not a single mention of CRICE CORP =/ what a pity.... haha
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:40:00 -
[215]
1.) mOo
2.)Evolution
3.)VOTF
4.)Zombies (it takes balls to raid Yulai)
5.)Jokers
6.)Forsaken Empire
7.)Biomass
8.) Black Nova Corp
9.) Space Invaders
10.)Paladins of the Red Skull
Most of these guys I have either fought, worked with or simply seen their vids and talked to. Never done anything involving SA so I can't list MASS, haven't seen XAN fight so I can't list them.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:40:00 -
[216]
1.) mOo
2.)Evolution
3.)VOTF
4.)Zombies (it takes balls to raid Yulai)
5.)Jokers
6.)Forsaken Empire
7.)Biomass
8.) Black Nova Corp
9.) Space Invaders
10.)Paladins of the Red Skull
Most of these guys I have either fought, worked with or simply seen their vids and talked to. Never done anything involving SA so I can't list MASS, haven't seen XAN fight so I can't list them.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Rath Amon
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:58:00 -
[217]
1. Forsaken Empire
2. Zombies
3. Jokers
4. Black Nova Corp
5. Biomass
and the best collective force imo is the hlw mob
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:58:00 -
[218]
1. Forsaken Empire
2. Zombies
3. Jokers
4. Black Nova Corp
5. Biomass
and the best collective force imo is the hlw mob
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.08 06:15:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
Stav, so you're saying that m0o is weak too? Cus m0o needed to work with evol/RKK/ATUK/NCA to go after CA/PA. The fact that you guys don't call it an alliance doesn't mean it isn't one...
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.08 06:15:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
Stav, so you're saying that m0o is weak too? Cus m0o needed to work with evol/RKK/ATUK/NCA to go after CA/PA. The fact that you guys don't call it an alliance doesn't mean it isn't one...
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.09.08 06:52:00 -
[221]
Stella all the way
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.09.08 06:52:00 -
[222]
Stella all the way
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:45:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
Stav, that was the biggest pat on your own back i think i've ever seen.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:45:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
Stav, that was the biggest pat on your own back i think i've ever seen.
Former Member of Omega Corp |
Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.09.08 09:21:00 -
[225]
Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
Stav, that was the biggest pat on your own back i think i've ever seen.
"pat on your own back"? Please elaborate.
What he means is that independent corps have nowhere to run if they start losing a war: their enemy can follow them to the ends of the earth until they fall apart.
An alliance PvP corp can always fall back into their alliance's heart land and be protected by the rest of the alliance while they recuperate.
And to that CA member who posted a Top Ten of all-CA corps: if you've never gone out and actually fought anyone, please don't post based on what you hear on your alliance chat.
I'm not posting a Top ten but I will give a special mention to:
Zombie Corp.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.09.08 09:21:00 -
[226]
Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
Originally by: Stavros
Right basically any corp that is a member of an alliance is like shooting themselves in the face when it comes to any top 10 like this.
If you need an alliance to back you up, to give u safe place to retreat to or for whatever. You are weak and have no place anywhere near a top 10.
Only corps that stand on their own can EVER claim to be any kind of good at pvp or eve in general, I'm not giving names and im not doing some top 10 thing because basically these posts are silly and just degenerate into flames after 2 pages.
If your in an alliance your corp is unable to stand on its own and is therefore weak.
If any corp has umbridge with what I say and infact thinks they are strong despite the fact they are in an alliance, then leave and prove me wrong, otherwise end.
Stav
Stav, that was the biggest pat on your own back i think i've ever seen.
"pat on your own back"? Please elaborate.
What he means is that independent corps have nowhere to run if they start losing a war: their enemy can follow them to the ends of the earth until they fall apart.
An alliance PvP corp can always fall back into their alliance's heart land and be protected by the rest of the alliance while they recuperate.
And to that CA member who posted a Top Ten of all-CA corps: if you've never gone out and actually fought anyone, please don't post based on what you hear on your alliance chat.
I'm not posting a Top ten but I will give a special mention to:
Zombie Corp.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.09.08 10:05:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 08/09/2004 10:08:00
Quote:
"pat on your own back"? Please elaborate.
What he means is that independent corps have nowhere to run if they start losing a war: their enemy can follow them to the ends of the earth until they fall apart.
An alliance PvP corp can always fall back into their alliance's heart land and be protected by the rest of the alliance while they recuperate.
Thats actually very much so a two-sided coin.
Non-alliance corps don't have alliances or places to run back to, but neither do they have alliances or homes that a vulnerable to attack, and which they 'have to' defend. If the situation gets to hot for them to handle, they can simply move elsewhere, and elsewhere again. An alliance corporation on the other side actually has weakpoints and places where the enemy can attack it. If they run from the responsibility of defending their space, they are still open to attacks on their alliance mates and their honour. To this extent they are actually forced to be "stronger" than their roaming counterparts. In addition to this there are barely any "true" allianceless corporations ingame, only ones that have no claimed space they call home.
Yet in the end being in an alliance or not has nothing to do with strength or weakness. Its more of a question of occupation. Some corps or communities have players that prefer playing in the commerce/production aspect of the game, and some are only interested in openly fighting. Maintaining an ongoing large scale openly operating production outfit without a base of operations is very hard, and "protected alliance space" goes a long way to sustain it. (Not saying that you can't do it without it though) Yet the simple fact that a Corporation employs such a wing doesnt mean its fighting Arm cannot hold its own against its opponents.
The Chronicles of Xanadu |
Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.09.08 10:05:00 -
[228]
Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 08/09/2004 10:08:00
Quote:
"pat on your own back"? Please elaborate.
What he means is that independent corps have nowhere to run if they start losing a war: their enemy can follow them to the ends of the earth until they fall apart.
An alliance PvP corp can always fall back into their alliance's heart land and be protected by the rest of the alliance while they recuperate.
Thats actually very much so a two-sided coin.
Non-alliance corps don't have alliances or places to run back to, but neither do they have alliances or homes that a vulnerable to attack, and which they 'have to' defend. If the situation gets to hot for them to handle, they can simply move elsewhere, and elsewhere again. An alliance corporation on the other side actually has weakpoints and places where the enemy can attack it. If they run from the responsibility of defending their space, they are still open to attacks on their alliance mates and their honour. To this extent they are actually forced to be "stronger" than their roaming counterparts. In addition to this there are barely any "true" allianceless corporations ingame, only ones that have no claimed space they call home.
Yet in the end being in an alliance or not has nothing to do with strength or weakness. Its more of a question of occupation. Some corps or communities have players that prefer playing in the commerce/production aspect of the game, and some are only interested in openly fighting. Maintaining an ongoing large scale openly operating production outfit without a base of operations is very hard, and "protected alliance space" goes a long way to sustain it. (Not saying that you can't do it without it though) Yet the simple fact that a Corporation employs such a wing doesnt mean its fighting Arm cannot hold its own against its opponents.
The Chronicles of Xanadu |
HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:30:00 -
[229]
I'm sorry to say this but from my own experience in eve what m0oevolution is doing is not that unqiue and the credit they give themselves for doing it is a tad OTT.
Before you go on about trying to do what they do myself, i have done. Many times. It's not THAT hard thanks to eve's mechanics.
Former Member of Omega Corp |
HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:30:00 -
[230]
I'm sorry to say this but from my own experience in eve what m0oevolution is doing is not that unqiue and the credit they give themselves for doing it is a tad OTT.
Before you go on about trying to do what they do myself, i have done. Many times. It's not THAT hard thanks to eve's mechanics.
Former Member of Omega Corp |
Stavros
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:21:00 -
[231]
Valid point about defending your own space solarim except for without fail EVERY alliance we have fought has tried to use the boredom tactic to get us to leave.
We have pa/ca/fa members all admitting to either not caring about the defense of their homelands or sayign that they wont fight us till we get bored and leave.
Also out of your nice list of supposed m0o allies there are about only 1 or 2 corps we call friends the rest are just people we worked with at one time or another, does not even come to close to being anything like an alliance.
Alliances are where the weak cluster to protect them from the strong, you see it in nature with heads of animals and you see it in eve. Its a natural instinct for those unable to stand on their own to cluster together to seek strength.
Stavros
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:21:00 -
[232]
Valid point about defending your own space solarim except for without fail EVERY alliance we have fought has tried to use the boredom tactic to get us to leave.
We have pa/ca/fa members all admitting to either not caring about the defense of their homelands or sayign that they wont fight us till we get bored and leave.
Also out of your nice list of supposed m0o allies there are about only 1 or 2 corps we call friends the rest are just people we worked with at one time or another, does not even come to close to being anything like an alliance.
Alliances are where the weak cluster to protect them from the strong, you see it in nature with heads of animals and you see it in eve. Its a natural instinct for those unable to stand on their own to cluster together to seek strength.
Stavros
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
TIO 101
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:21:00 -
[233]
Edited by: TIO 101 on 08/09/2004 14:23:42
Any of the top 10 corps seriously recruiting currently?
if so, im interested in a larger corp, currently in a 2man corp and find it relativly easy to take on frigs / 1-2 cruisers solo or with 2 peeps, but rather difficult to take on battleships with support ships. however im wanting to join a larger corporation to help take on larger targets.
Edit:spelling
h4xb4n
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TIO 101
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:21:00 -
[234]
Edited by: TIO 101 on 08/09/2004 14:23:42
Any of the top 10 corps seriously recruiting currently?
if so, im interested in a larger corp, currently in a 2man corp and find it relativly easy to take on frigs / 1-2 cruisers solo or with 2 peeps, but rather difficult to take on battleships with support ships. however im wanting to join a larger corporation to help take on larger targets.
Edit:spelling
h4xb4n
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:42:00 -
[235]
Sorry Stav I have to disagree. I beleive being in an alliance under siege from enemy attacks shows the true strength of the corporation. When faced by overwhelming numbers you have 2 options,
1. Log off
2. Outwit your enemy.
As a member of an alliance your enemies allways know where you will be. The bonus that nomadic pirate corp have is they are allways on the attack, a huge advantage, and are not tied down to a position. To a certain extent I agree with your point about the weak huddling together to fend off the strong. However I think it is better expressed as the weak hiding behind the strong, who are fending off the attacks.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:42:00 -
[236]
Sorry Stav I have to disagree. I beleive being in an alliance under siege from enemy attacks shows the true strength of the corporation. When faced by overwhelming numbers you have 2 options,
1. Log off
2. Outwit your enemy.
As a member of an alliance your enemies allways know where you will be. The bonus that nomadic pirate corp have is they are allways on the attack, a huge advantage, and are not tied down to a position. To a certain extent I agree with your point about the weak huddling together to fend off the strong. However I think it is better expressed as the weak hiding behind the strong, who are fending off the attacks.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Wishdokkta
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:54:00 -
[237]
1. FREEKS Unleashed
.....there are other PvP corps?
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Wishdokkta
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:54:00 -
[238]
1. FREEKS Unleashed
.....there are other PvP corps?
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2004.09.08 15:21:00 -
[239]
Stav is right. When i was in FA and m0o attacked FA, only tactic FA used (after losing tons of BS to m0o) was to bore them. and it worked since m0o got bored and left.
Most of the alliance's corps (but not all, there are also some good exceptions) are weak to fight head to head with any pvp corp and would be unable to protect their assets. so they team up.
However, it's also true not all corps in alliances are weak. By my personal experience (fighting FA) Xanadu is strong IMO. Finfleet too.
Some leading corporations in alliances can stand on their own. they just decided to join alliances in order to control weaker corps and, at the end, get more pawns to play with
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2004.09.08 15:21:00 -
[240]
Stav is right. When i was in FA and m0o attacked FA, only tactic FA used (after losing tons of BS to m0o) was to bore them. and it worked since m0o got bored and left.
Most of the alliance's corps (but not all, there are also some good exceptions) are weak to fight head to head with any pvp corp and would be unable to protect their assets. so they team up.
However, it's also true not all corps in alliances are weak. By my personal experience (fighting FA) Xanadu is strong IMO. Finfleet too.
Some leading corporations in alliances can stand on their own. they just decided to join alliances in order to control weaker corps and, at the end, get more pawns to play with
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 15:36:00 -
[241]
Stav i have to disagree with what you wrote:
Take my corp for example we are members of the PA as everyone knows
We never hide behind the alliance and never have our fighting style is very simular to yours in that we go off and attack an alliance
so far we have had fights against
Catch 22
COD
FU
All off these alliances we have engaged on our own with maybe one or two pilots from other corps. Does this mean that we are week?
I am sure you will say well you guys never came to fight us in BKG blah blah blah therefore you are weak. Lets face it the PA could bring in 140 ship in to BKG and camp you guys all day but that is not fun now is it, this is a war it is about death and destruction not about sitting in a blob smack talking in local. Does the fact that we would rather kill stuff then sit in a blob make us weak i dont think so!
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 15:36:00 -
[242]
Stav i have to disagree with what you wrote:
Take my corp for example we are members of the PA as everyone knows
We never hide behind the alliance and never have our fighting style is very simular to yours in that we go off and attack an alliance
so far we have had fights against
Catch 22
COD
FU
All off these alliances we have engaged on our own with maybe one or two pilots from other corps. Does this mean that we are week?
I am sure you will say well you guys never came to fight us in BKG blah blah blah therefore you are weak. Lets face it the PA could bring in 140 ship in to BKG and camp you guys all day but that is not fun now is it, this is a war it is about death and destruction not about sitting in a blob smack talking in local. Does the fact that we would rather kill stuff then sit in a blob make us weak i dont think so!
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.09.08 15:54:00 -
[243]
Right.. so now you people argue that what m0o does is easier and it is infact HARDER to be in an alliance because you have to defend terrortory etc etc..
Well erm news flash, if being in an alliance is SOOO hard and being a roving corp is soo easy and you apparently gain so little from your alliances... Why are you in them in the first place?
If your corps are so good, why risk getting labeled with the same brush as the poorer corps in your alliance when you getting nothing in return? Why claim land when all it does (by your own admission) is make you a target?
The way the people arguing against me in this thread have laid it out these supposed 'strong' corps within alliances are there as a result of two possible reasons:
1) They aren't infact strong and need the support of their alliances in order to survive in the harsh world of 0.0 space.
2) They have been joined alliances for no good reason and as a result recieve no benefit (as being a roaming corp like m0o is obviously easier) and instead have just painted a big bullseye on their behinds because they are now targets due to their alliance land claiming.
Reason one is what I suspect, but if all you hardcore alliance corps think being m0o is so easy they your still weak, for wasting your time associating your corp with poorer members of your alliance when u recieve nothing in return but a battered reputation and increased attacks upon yourselves...
Or...
Maybe I missed something here and maybe the people arguing against me would like to change their stories and come up with some other reason why being in an alliance (I think I will call them herds from now on as that name suits them more aptly) doesnt diminish from individual corps strength.
In summation - strong corps associating with weak corps do nothing save weaken themselves.
You sirs, are ended.
Stavros
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros
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Posted - 2004.09.08 15:54:00 -
[244]
Right.. so now you people argue that what m0o does is easier and it is infact HARDER to be in an alliance because you have to defend terrortory etc etc..
Well erm news flash, if being in an alliance is SOOO hard and being a roving corp is soo easy and you apparently gain so little from your alliances... Why are you in them in the first place?
If your corps are so good, why risk getting labeled with the same brush as the poorer corps in your alliance when you getting nothing in return? Why claim land when all it does (by your own admission) is make you a target?
The way the people arguing against me in this thread have laid it out these supposed 'strong' corps within alliances are there as a result of two possible reasons:
1) They aren't infact strong and need the support of their alliances in order to survive in the harsh world of 0.0 space.
2) They have been joined alliances for no good reason and as a result recieve no benefit (as being a roaming corp like m0o is obviously easier) and instead have just painted a big bullseye on their behinds because they are now targets due to their alliance land claiming.
Reason one is what I suspect, but if all you hardcore alliance corps think being m0o is so easy they your still weak, for wasting your time associating your corp with poorer members of your alliance when u recieve nothing in return but a battered reputation and increased attacks upon yourselves...
Or...
Maybe I missed something here and maybe the people arguing against me would like to change their stories and come up with some other reason why being in an alliance (I think I will call them herds from now on as that name suits them more aptly) doesnt diminish from individual corps strength.
In summation - strong corps associating with weak corps do nothing save weaken themselves.
You sirs, are ended.
Stavros
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:03:00 -
[245]
Stavros is right on, ownage.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:03:00 -
[246]
Stavros is right on, ownage.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:07:00 -
[247]
I agree with Stav. Me and DC were talking last night before my ISP fked up about alliances. And i think we agree that alliances are needed. However, there is nothing, not a single reason, why alliance shouldnt accept a corp. Resources claimed by alliances are virtually endless, therefore there is no inter-alliance competition. If resources were scarce, like in any real economy today, alliances would have to choose between the blob factor (security) and the resource factor. The resource factor would pull corporations to try and control the most resources by themselves, ideally all resources being controlled by one megacorp. On the other hand, the safety issue would pull corporations to band up. That way most alliances would get rid of all the fat they have now, and maybe consist of 2-3 megacorporations, who would in turn be able to command the resource destribution between their members more efficiently. Only problem i see is that most corporations would move back to 1.0 and mine veld all day.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:07:00 -
[248]
I agree with Stav. Me and DC were talking last night before my ISP fked up about alliances. And i think we agree that alliances are needed. However, there is nothing, not a single reason, why alliance shouldnt accept a corp. Resources claimed by alliances are virtually endless, therefore there is no inter-alliance competition. If resources were scarce, like in any real economy today, alliances would have to choose between the blob factor (security) and the resource factor. The resource factor would pull corporations to try and control the most resources by themselves, ideally all resources being controlled by one megacorp. On the other hand, the safety issue would pull corporations to band up. That way most alliances would get rid of all the fat they have now, and maybe consist of 2-3 megacorporations, who would in turn be able to command the resource destribution between their members more efficiently. Only problem i see is that most corporations would move back to 1.0 and mine veld all day.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:14:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Artegg
Stav i have to disagree with what you wrote:
Take my corp for example we are members of the PA as everyone knows
We never hide behind the alliance and never have our fighting style is very simular to yours in that we go off and attack an alliance
so far we have had fights against
Catch 22
COD
FU
You also mean that you don't DEFEND your alliance
Ľ©Ľ
a history |
Riddari
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:14:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Artegg
Stav i have to disagree with what you wrote:
Take my corp for example we are members of the PA as everyone knows
We never hide behind the alliance and never have our fighting style is very simular to yours in that we go off and attack an alliance
so far we have had fights against
Catch 22
COD
FU
You also mean that you don't DEFEND your alliance
Ľ©Ľ
a history |
Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:15:00 -
[251]
In addition to what Stav said..
A PvP corp joining an alliance will more than likely limit/hinder its available target pool. Alliance politics will dictate who you can/must shoot, and who you can't/mustn't.
In short, you become pawns, save for the one or two corps that in effect RUN the alliance - and even then you'll have to contend with the miners, manufacturers, etc. Gotta keep those people happy, eh? Blah.
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:15:00 -
[252]
In addition to what Stav said..
A PvP corp joining an alliance will more than likely limit/hinder its available target pool. Alliance politics will dictate who you can/must shoot, and who you can't/mustn't.
In short, you become pawns, save for the one or two corps that in effect RUN the alliance - and even then you'll have to contend with the miners, manufacturers, etc. Gotta keep those people happy, eh? Blah.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:19:00 -
[253]
It really comes down to the corporation and the reasons for them to join an alliance. I used to hate alliances.
We decided to join NVA because NVA and us had same enemies and quite frankly NVA was an underdog at the time.
I have always liked underdogs. In the process we made alot of friends with corporations that created the Phoenix All
iance. I like the alliance life now. We internally compete on who can make most kills, best videos and things of tha
t nature. But without smack.
Alliance is like a little part of eve where you can avoid all the BS that happends in these forums.
Atleast that's how I feel about it.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:19:00 -
[254]
It really comes down to the corporation and the reasons for them to join an alliance. I used to hate alliances.
We decided to join NVA because NVA and us had same enemies and quite frankly NVA was an underdog at the time.
I have always liked underdogs. In the process we made alot of friends with corporations that created the Phoenix All
iance. I like the alliance life now. We internally compete on who can make most kills, best videos and things of tha
t nature. But without smack.
Alliance is like a little part of eve where you can avoid all the BS that happends in these forums.
Atleast that's how I feel about it.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:21:00 -
[255]
Quote:
A PvP corp joining an alliance will more than likely limit/hinder its available target pool. Alliance politics will dictate who you can/must shoot, and who you can't/mustn't.
Well that just depends on the alliance you're in.
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:21:00 -
[256]
Quote:
A PvP corp joining an alliance will more than likely limit/hinder its available target pool. Alliance politics will dictate who you can/must shoot, and who you can't/mustn't.
Well that just depends on the alliance you're in.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:28:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Stavros
Right.. so now you people argue that what m0o does is easier and it is infact HARDER to be in an alliance because you have to defend terrortory etc etc..
Well erm news flash, if being in an alliance is SOOO hard and being a roving corp is soo easy and you apparently gain so little from your alliances... Why are you in them in the first place?
If your corps are so good, why risk getting labeled with the same brush as the poorer corps in your alliance when you getting nothing in return? Why claim land when all it does (by your own admission) is make you a target?
The way the people arguing against me in this thread have laid it out these supposed 'strong' corps within alliances are there as a result of two possible reasons:
1) They aren't infact strong and need the support of their alliances in order to survive in the harsh world of 0.0 space.
2) They have been joined alliances for no good reason and as a result recieve no benefit (as being a roaming corp like m0o is obviously easier) and instead have just painted a big bullseye on their behinds because they are now targets due to their alliance land claiming.
Reason one is what I suspect, but if all you hardcore alliance corps think being m0o is so easy they your still weak, for wasting your time associating your corp with poorer members of your alliance when u recieve nothing in return but a battered reputation and increased attacks upon yourselves...
Or...
Maybe I missed something here and maybe the people arguing against me would like to change their stories and come up with some other reason why being in an alliance (I think I will call them herds from now on as that name suits them more aptly) doesnt diminish from individual corps strength.
In summation - strong corps associating with weak corps do nothing save weaken themselves.
You sirs, are ended.
Stavros
Sadly i dont make my corp policy but i stay with my corp because i have put in loads of time and effort in to making the corp what it is. If i had my way we would not be in a allance (no offence to the PA i love you guys) we would be doing what you guys do infact that is what we do anyway we are hardly in venal during war times or peace
remember i am not my corperation i speak my views not the views of my corp my first post was from my prospective not the prospective of R-K
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:28:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Stavros
Right.. so now you people argue that what m0o does is easier and it is infact HARDER to be in an alliance because you have to defend terrortory etc etc..
Well erm news flash, if being in an alliance is SOOO hard and being a roving corp is soo easy and you apparently gain so little from your alliances... Why are you in them in the first place?
If your corps are so good, why risk getting labeled with the same brush as the poorer corps in your alliance when you getting nothing in return? Why claim land when all it does (by your own admission) is make you a target?
The way the people arguing against me in this thread have laid it out these supposed 'strong' corps within alliances are there as a result of two possible reasons:
1) They aren't infact strong and need the support of their alliances in order to survive in the harsh world of 0.0 space.
2) They have been joined alliances for no good reason and as a result recieve no benefit (as being a roaming corp like m0o is obviously easier) and instead have just painted a big bullseye on their behinds because they are now targets due to their alliance land claiming.
Reason one is what I suspect, but if all you hardcore alliance corps think being m0o is so easy they your still weak, for wasting your time associating your corp with poorer members of your alliance when u recieve nothing in return but a battered reputation and increased attacks upon yourselves...
Or...
Maybe I missed something here and maybe the people arguing against me would like to change their stories and come up with some other reason why being in an alliance (I think I will call them herds from now on as that name suits them more aptly) doesnt diminish from individual corps strength.
In summation - strong corps associating with weak corps do nothing save weaken themselves.
You sirs, are ended.
Stavros
Sadly i dont make my corp policy but i stay with my corp because i have put in loads of time and effort in to making the corp what it is. If i had my way we would not be in a allance (no offence to the PA i love you guys) we would be doing what you guys do infact that is what we do anyway we are hardly in venal during war times or peace
remember i am not my corperation i speak my views not the views of my corp my first post was from my prospective not the prospective of R-K
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:32:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
In addition to what Stav said..
A PvP corp joining an alliance will more than likely limit/hinder its available target pool. Alliance politics will dictate who you can/must shoot, and who you can't/mustn't.
That is exactly why i dont like being in a allaince
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:32:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
In addition to what Stav said..
A PvP corp joining an alliance will more than likely limit/hinder its available target pool. Alliance politics will dictate who you can/must shoot, and who you can't/mustn't.
That is exactly why i dont like being in a allaince
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:37:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Artegg
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
In addition to what Stav said..
A PvP corp joining an alliance will more than likely limit/hinder its available target pool. Alliance politics will dictate who you can/must shoot, and who you can't/mustn't.
That is exactly why i dont like being in a allaince
I find myself in agreement with you there Artegg.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:37:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Artegg
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
In addition to what Stav said..
A PvP corp joining an alliance will more than likely limit/hinder its available target pool. Alliance politics will dictate who you can/must shoot, and who you can't/mustn't.
That is exactly why i dont like being in a allaince
I find myself in agreement with you there Artegg.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:54:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Artegg
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
With respect to alot of good quality freelancing corps, Artegg is totally right.
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:54:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Artegg
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
With respect to alot of good quality freelancing corps, Artegg is totally right.
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.09.08 17:00:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Amthrianius
heh, who fits a co-pro on an inter..... or for that matter radio crystals....
Want to duel? I'll show you what radio crystals can do
No comment about the coproc though
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.09.08 17:00:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Amthrianius
heh, who fits a co-pro on an inter..... or for that matter radio crystals....
Want to duel? I'll show you what radio crystals can do
No comment about the coproc though
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 17:29:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Talon SilverHawk
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 07/09/2004 15:28:51
Originally by: EvilDoomer
Here is my list and its backed up by facts.
1. OC
2. VOTF
3. SHINRA
4. MASS
5. Zoners
6. Ota Corps
7. 7th Space Cavalry
8. Black Reign
9. M. Corp
10. Taggart Transdimensional
11. Spectre Knights
12. Stronghold Corp {I think}
Based on these Facts.
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
Top 10 ship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (1988) , Shinra (985) , Vengeance of the Fallen (939) , RUS (442) , Zoners (439) , Corp 1 (378) , M. Corp (318) , Taggart Transdimensional (307) , SPECTRE Knights (304) , Black Reign (295)
Top 10 pod killers (all involved parties, capsules only)
The Enslaver (72) , CKOZUK (72) , Lao Tzu (68) , Karien (61) , Piccilo (48) , DeMundus (44) , DJTheBaron (42) , Zelota (39) , Redon (37) , Christopher Scott (34)
mOo was a name of the past. Zombies ?
You do the math these numbers are backed up from the CMS system. Follow linkage and you can see.
This is from a CA site and does not take other corps into account so this would make it the top 10 CA Corps not Eves.
Tal
Hate to burst ya bubble dude, but, our kill list lists only battleship kills, and its 3 times higher than your top ranking battleship killers :/
Doh!
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 17:29:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Talon SilverHawk
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 07/09/2004 15:28:51
Originally by: EvilDoomer
Here is my list and its backed up by facts.
1. OC
2. VOTF
3. SHINRA
4. MASS
5. Zoners
6. Ota Corps
7. 7th Space Cavalry
8. Black Reign
9. M. Corp
10. Taggart Transdimensional
11. Spectre Knights
12. Stronghold Corp {I think}
Based on these Facts.
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
Top 10 ship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (1988) , Shinra (985) , Vengeance of the Fallen (939) , RUS (442) , Zoners (439) , Corp 1 (378) , M. Corp (318) , Taggart Transdimensional (307) , SPECTRE Knights (304) , Black Reign (295)
Top 10 pod killers (all involved parties, capsules only)
The Enslaver (72) , CKOZUK (72) , Lao Tzu (68) , Karien (61) , Piccilo (48) , DeMundus (44) , DJTheBaron (42) , Zelota (39) , Redon (37) , Christopher Scott (34)
mOo was a name of the past. Zombies ?
You do the math these numbers are backed up from the CMS system. Follow linkage and you can see.
This is from a CA site and does not take other corps into account so this would make it the top 10 CA Corps not Eves.
Tal
Hate to burst ya bubble dude, but, our kill list lists only battleship kills, and its 3 times higher than your top ranking battleship killers :/
Doh!
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.08 17:39:00 -
[269]
mhh arent we a bit of topic now??
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.08 17:39:00 -
[270]
mhh arent we a bit of topic now??
Wanna fly with me?
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 17:50:00 -
[271]
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 18:12:48
Originally by: Nafri
mhh arent we a bit of topic now??
The original topic was a little pointless and was beginning to show signs of a flame war + locked thread, as it happens the thread has developed into a debate of the Single Power corp vs the effectiveness of an alliance. And more strange is, no one is flaming
Originally by: Artegg
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 17:50:00 -
[272]
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 18:12:48
Originally by: Nafri
mhh arent we a bit of topic now??
The original topic was a little pointless and was beginning to show signs of a flame war + locked thread, as it happens the thread has developed into a debate of the Single Power corp vs the effectiveness of an alliance. And more strange is, no one is flaming
Originally by: Artegg
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:53:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Sassinak
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 18:12:48
Originally by: Nafri
mhh arent we a bit of topic now??
The original topic was a little pointless and was beginning to show signs of a flame war + locked thread, as it happens the thread has developed into a debate of the Single Power corp vs the effectiveness of an alliance. And more strange is, no one is flaming
Originally by: Artegg
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
I remind you that m0ovolution got owned in BKG in 90% of all fight we had. So how did you beat us?
Us pulling out to concentrate on other enemies and u using spies doesn't really count as a defeat.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:53:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Sassinak
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 18:12:48
Originally by: Nafri
mhh arent we a bit of topic now??
The original topic was a little pointless and was beginning to show signs of a flame war + locked thread, as it happens the thread has developed into a debate of the Single Power corp vs the effectiveness of an alliance. And more strange is, no one is flaming
Originally by: Artegg
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
I remind you that m0ovolution got owned in BKG in 90% of all fight we had. So how did you beat us?
Us pulling out to concentrate on other enemies and u using spies doesn't really count as a defeat.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:58:00 -
[275]
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 19:02:18
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Sassinak
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 18:12:48
Originally by: Nafri
mhh arent we a bit of topic now??
The original topic was a little pointless and was beginning to show signs of a flame war + locked thread, as it happens the thread has developed into a debate of the Single Power corp vs the effectiveness of an alliance. And more strange is, no one is flaming
Originally by: Artegg
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
I remind you that m0ovolution got owned in BKG in 90% of all fight we had. So how did you beat us?
Us pulling out to concentrate on other enemies and u using spies doesn't really count as a defeat.
Whats the Weather like on Planet Presidio?
Can i have some of what your smoking please? its good ****.
Say Hi to The Cursed for me as well pls
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:58:00 -
[276]
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 19:02:18
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Sassinak
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 18:12:48
Originally by: Nafri
mhh arent we a bit of topic now??
The original topic was a little pointless and was beginning to show signs of a flame war + locked thread, as it happens the thread has developed into a debate of the Single Power corp vs the effectiveness of an alliance. And more strange is, no one is flaming
Originally by: Artegg
Lets face it attacking is much easier than defending in this game you say people who are in alliances are weak i say they are stronger than corps like m0o and evol because they are prepared to make a claim to land and to try and protect it unlike you guys who can just fly in and safespot gank parttime miner/parttime pvper then safe spot when you get out numbered. At least the alliance members have the balls to make a home and try and protect it
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
I remind you that m0ovolution got owned in BKG in 90% of all fight we had. So how did you beat us?
Us pulling out to concentrate on other enemies and u using spies doesn't really count as a defeat.
Whats the Weather like on Planet Presidio?
Can i have some of what your smoking please? its good ****.
Say Hi to The Cursed for me as well pls
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:01:00 -
[277]
whatever Presidio, give me a list of m0o battleships + names you killed.
After the stunts you pulled in the past, I don't think anyone has any respect left for you. |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:01:00 -
[278]
whatever Presidio, give me a list of m0o battleships + names you killed.
After the stunts you pulled in the past, I don't think anyone has any respect left for you. |
Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:12:00 -
[279]
This is how 90% of battles looked like in BKG.
Link
We have like 10 videos that show a same thing. You know it as well you got Owned in BKG.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:12:00 -
[280]
This is how 90% of battles looked like in BKG.
Link
We have like 10 videos that show a same thing. You know it as well you got Owned in BKG.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:24:00 -
[281]
Edited by: KIAInkZ on 08/09/2004 19:25:33
Originally by: Sassinak
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
Because you can choose when to engage.
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Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |
KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:24:00 -
[282]
Edited by: KIAInkZ on 08/09/2004 19:25:33
Originally by: Sassinak
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
Because you can choose when to engage.
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Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |
Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:24:00 -
[283]
Well atleast I don't have to lie to make myself look good. I was there, while the flamers flaming me I may have seen once or twice.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:24:00 -
[284]
Well atleast I don't have to lie to make myself look good. I was there, while the flamers flaming me I may have seen once or twice.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:42:00 -
[285]
Where is the list I asked for Presidio? |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:42:00 -
[286]
Where is the list I asked for Presidio? |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:43:00 -
[287]
Originally by: KIAInkZ
Edited by: KIAInkZ on 08/09/2004 19:25:33
Originally by: Sassinak
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
Because you can choose when to engage.
So can all corps....
still the same odd logic im afraid.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:43:00 -
[288]
Originally by: KIAInkZ
Edited by: KIAInkZ on 08/09/2004 19:25:33
Originally by: Sassinak
But until you alliance corps go it alone and Demonstrate your power, your point is a bit moot
And apart from that, by your own reckoning if all the alliance corps have more power and reslolve than the likes of Evolution m0o ATUK and all the other Nomad corps, how can those nomad corps hold their own and actually beat all those superior corps simultaneosly and hold their own?
I cant get my head round your logic im afriad.
Because you can choose when to engage.
So can all corps....
still the same odd logic im afraid.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:46:00 -
[289]
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 19:49:55
Originally by: Presidio
This is how 90% of battles looked like in BKG.
Link
We have like 10 videos that show a same thing. You know it as well you got Owned in BKG.
Yes your right, our time spent sitting around at safespot with a smaller enemy was owned by you yes.
Other than that, since ive been around for 90% of the fights, You sir, are a liar. Why are you also not in BKG continuing to own us all. Since thats what youve been doing for 90% of the time.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:46:00 -
[290]
Edited by: Sassinak on 08/09/2004 19:49:55
Originally by: Presidio
This is how 90% of battles looked like in BKG.
Link
We have like 10 videos that show a same thing. You know it as well you got Owned in BKG.
Yes your right, our time spent sitting around at safespot with a smaller enemy was owned by you yes.
Other than that, since ive been around for 90% of the fights, You sir, are a liar. Why are you also not in BKG continuing to own us all. Since thats what youve been doing for 90% of the time.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:02:00 -
[291]
Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 20:08:49
double post
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:02:00 -
[292]
Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 20:08:49
double post
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:03:00 -
[293]
Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 20:05:45
double post
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:03:00 -
[294]
Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 20:05:45
double post
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:03:00 -
[295]
Originally by: TWD
Where is the list I asked for Presidio?
How would a kill list be a better proof than videos, for all the fleet battles we won?
A kill list doesn't show if the kill was a ganking or a fleet battle.
We got videos, you got nothing.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:03:00 -
[296]
Originally by: TWD
Where is the list I asked for Presidio?
How would a kill list be a better proof than videos, for all the fleet battles we won?
A kill list doesn't show if the kill was a ganking or a fleet battle.
We got videos, you got nothing.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:10:00 -
[297]
Edited by: Teelmaster on 08/09/2004 20:11:56
B/c all your fleet battles prove is that you can out-blob anyone you face by tons of ships. That requires no skill.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:10:00 -
[298]
Edited by: Teelmaster on 08/09/2004 20:11:56
B/c all your fleet battles prove is that you can out-blob anyone you face by tons of ships. That requires no skill.
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BlueVelvet
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:17:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Presidio
This is how 90% of battles looked like in BKG.
Link
We have like 10 videos that show a same thing. You know it as well you got Owned in BKG.
Thank you very much for making me laugh after my hard day at work
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BlueVelvet
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:17:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Presidio
This is how 90% of battles looked like in BKG.
Link
We have like 10 videos that show a same thing. You know it as well you got Owned in BKG.
Thank you very much for making me laugh after my hard day at work
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:21:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: TWD
Where is the list I asked for Presidio?
How would a kill list be a better proof than videos, for all the fleet battles we won?
A kill list doesn't show if the kill was a ganking or a fleet battle.
We got videos, you got nothing.
right, someone give the link to the pa last stand vid where you lost 13 battleships, (we lost 1) in an even fight.
your vid only shows alot of purple boxes.
also ask Tumadra
about the lil fight against m0o a couple days ago
5 PA/gods battleships, 7 frigs against our 3 battleships, 3 frigs... resulted in 3 PA battlehip losses.. (no losses for us) unfortunatly we did not record that for your viewing pleasure.
again, you have no honor after the stunts you pulled in the past, and I can only say that you are a filthy liar and we really should not waste time replying to an idiot like you. |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:21:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: TWD
Where is the list I asked for Presidio?
How would a kill list be a better proof than videos, for all the fleet battles we won?
A kill list doesn't show if the kill was a ganking or a fleet battle.
We got videos, you got nothing.
right, someone give the link to the pa last stand vid where you lost 13 battleships, (we lost 1) in an even fight.
your vid only shows alot of purple boxes.
also ask Tumadra
about the lil fight against m0o a couple days ago
5 PA/gods battleships, 7 frigs against our 3 battleships, 3 frigs... resulted in 3 PA battlehip losses.. (no losses for us) unfortunatly we did not record that for your viewing pleasure.
again, you have no honor after the stunts you pulled in the past, and I can only say that you are a filthy liar and we really should not waste time replying to an idiot like you. |
Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:24:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Teelmaster
Edited by: Teelmaster on 08/09/2004 20:11:56
B/c all your fleet battles prove is that you can out-blob anyone you face by tons of ships. That requires no skill.
Teel, i respect you and still think of you as a friend, however, i think you are wrong in this. True, sometimes fleet battles dont take skill, but are you saying ganking takes skill then? In my mind the only fighting that takes skill 100% of the time is small engagements of around 10 ships on each side or thereabout. The numbers can vary on the ammount of lag but if there is a lot of lag then the less skill is needed.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:24:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Teelmaster
Edited by: Teelmaster on 08/09/2004 20:11:56
B/c all your fleet battles prove is that you can out-blob anyone you face by tons of ships. That requires no skill.
Teel, i respect you and still think of you as a friend, however, i think you are wrong in this. True, sometimes fleet battles dont take skill, but are you saying ganking takes skill then? In my mind the only fighting that takes skill 100% of the time is small engagements of around 10 ships on each side or thereabout. The numbers can vary on the ammount of lag but if there is a lot of lag then the less skill is needed.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:31:00 -
[305]
Please keep your replies respectful and friendly.
Thank you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:31:00 -
[306]
Please keep your replies respectful and friendly.
Thank you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Random
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:41:00 -
[307]
arghh M0o has invaded the forum aliance, this is our post!! get out m0o, or we whont post and bore u to death
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Random
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:41:00 -
[308]
arghh M0o has invaded the forum aliance, this is our post!! get out m0o, or we whont post and bore u to death
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:54:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Random
arghh M0o has invaded the forum aliance, this is our post!! get out m0o, or we whont post and bore u to death
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:54:00 -
[310]
Originally by: Random
arghh M0o has invaded the forum aliance, this is our post!! get out m0o, or we whont post and bore u to death
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:11:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Teelmaster
Stavros is right on, ownage.
Can you get your tongue in any deeper?
Stavros argument is actually incredibly weak and starts for the preposition that mOovolutiuon are doing things the hard way. I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance? Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:11:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Teelmaster
Stavros is right on, ownage.
Can you get your tongue in any deeper?
Stavros argument is actually incredibly weak and starts for the preposition that mOovolutiuon are doing things the hard way. I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance? Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:21:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Iluyen
Originally by: Teelmaster
Stavros is right on, ownage.
Can you get your tongue in any deeper?
Stavros argument is actually incredibly weak and starts for the preposition that mOovolutiuon are doing things the hard way. I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance? Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
Zip it before I DOS attack you
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:21:00 -
[314]
Originally by: Iluyen
Originally by: Teelmaster
Stavros is right on, ownage.
Can you get your tongue in any deeper?
Stavros argument is actually incredibly weak and starts for the preposition that mOovolutiuon are doing things the hard way. I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance? Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
Zip it before I DOS attack you
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:38:00 -
[315]
WTB WHATEVER PA IS SMOKIN
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:38:00 -
[316]
WTB WHATEVER PA IS SMOKIN
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Kulach
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:48:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Iluyen
Originally by: Teelmaster
Stavros is right on, ownage.
Can you get your tongue in any deeper?
Stavros argument is actually incredibly weak and starts for the preposition that mOovolutiuon are doing things the hard way. I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance? Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
Well said !
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:48:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Iluyen
Originally by: Teelmaster
Stavros is right on, ownage.
Can you get your tongue in any deeper?
Stavros argument is actually incredibly weak and starts for the preposition that mOovolutiuon are doing things the hard way. I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance? Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
Well said !
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:51:00 -
[319]
Presidio.
No one outside your circle of idiots will believe your 90% figure, so althought it is your perogitive to stick to your fictional number, you do little then discredit the miniscule amount of credibility you may have left.
If you guys won more then 10% of the battles we had, I would give you credit for it. The simple fact is, you are trying to save face for a beaten weak alliance on the verge of collapse .......
It won't work, as.... you are wrong. As usual.
Bye.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:51:00 -
[320]
Presidio.
No one outside your circle of idiots will believe your 90% figure, so althought it is your perogitive to stick to your fictional number, you do little then discredit the miniscule amount of credibility you may have left.
If you guys won more then 10% of the battles we had, I would give you credit for it. The simple fact is, you are trying to save face for a beaten weak alliance on the verge of collapse .......
It won't work, as.... you are wrong. As usual.
Bye.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:55:00 -
[321]
All top 10 posts are for people who are insecure about thier... Bombomb bidaro.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:55:00 -
[322]
All top 10 posts are for people who are insecure about thier... Bombomb bidaro.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:57:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: slip66
Originally by: olyyy
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
killing maybe losing no, Id say 95% of the corps mentioned on here are self sufficient and build thier own, or they have deals with friendly corps.
Slip, dont break his little french heart like that.
So basicly you guys are trying to tell me that I don't pay you enough atm to agree with me, right ?
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:57:00 -
[324]
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: slip66
Originally by: olyyy
BSs are cool, you should try Nafri
I'd like to remind everybody that the BSs you are killing and loosing are mostly built by Xetic corporations. So don't forget to mention your great Xetic sponsor and never forget: we make isk even when you or we loose ships (where do you think our members buy their ships ? =)
this was an advert provided by your friendly overpriced BS provider
killing maybe losing no, Id say 95% of the corps mentioned on here are self sufficient and build thier own, or they have deals with friendly corps.
Slip, dont break his little french heart like that.
So basicly you guys are trying to tell me that I don't pay you enough atm to agree with me, right ?
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:21:00 -
[325]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Presidio.
No one outside your circle of idiots will believe your 90% figure, so althought it is your perogitive to stick to your fictional number, you do little then discredit the miniscule amount of credibility you may have left.
If you guys won more then 10% of the battles we had, I would give you credit for it. The simple fact is, you are trying to save face for a beaten weak alliance on the verge of collapse .......
It won't work, as.... you are wrong. As usual.
Bye.
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:21:00 -
[326]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Presidio.
No one outside your circle of idiots will believe your 90% figure, so althought it is your perogitive to stick to your fictional number, you do little then discredit the miniscule amount of credibility you may have left.
If you guys won more then 10% of the battles we had, I would give you credit for it. The simple fact is, you are trying to save face for a beaten weak alliance on the verge of collapse .......
It won't work, as.... you are wrong. As usual.
Bye.
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:27:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Presidio.
No one outside your circle of idiots will believe your 90% figure, so althought it is your perogitive to stick to your fictional number, you do little then discredit the miniscule amount of credibility you may have left.
If you guys won more then 10% of the battles we had, I would give you credit for it. The simple fact is, you are trying to save face for a beaten weak alliance on the verge of collapse .......
It won't work, as.... you are wrong. As usual.
Bye.
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
So where in venal is PA alive and kicking then?
kthxbye
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:27:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Presidio.
No one outside your circle of idiots will believe your 90% figure, so althought it is your perogitive to stick to your fictional number, you do little then discredit the miniscule amount of credibility you may have left.
If you guys won more then 10% of the battles we had, I would give you credit for it. The simple fact is, you are trying to save face for a beaten weak alliance on the verge of collapse .......
It won't work, as.... you are wrong. As usual.
Bye.
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
So where in venal is PA alive and kicking then?
kthxbye
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:29:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Sassinak
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Presidio.
No one outside your circle of idiots will believe your 90% figure, so althought it is your perogitive to stick to your fictional number, you do little then discredit the miniscule amount of credibility you may have left.
If you guys won more then 10% of the battles we had, I would give you credit for it. The simple fact is, you are trying to save face for a beaten weak alliance on the verge of collapse .......
It won't work, as.... you are wrong. As usual.
Bye.
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
So where in venal is PA alive and kicking then?
kthxbye
Why don't you tell me you got spies? heh
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:29:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Sassinak
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Presidio.
No one outside your circle of idiots will believe your 90% figure, so althought it is your perogitive to stick to your fictional number, you do little then discredit the miniscule amount of credibility you may have left.
If you guys won more then 10% of the battles we had, I would give you credit for it. The simple fact is, you are trying to save face for a beaten weak alliance on the verge of collapse .......
It won't work, as.... you are wrong. As usual.
Bye.
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
So where in venal is PA alive and kicking then?
kthxbye
Why don't you tell me you got spies? heh
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:32:00 -
[331]
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 08/09/2004 22:34:29
Quote:
I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance?
Been there, done that, murdered them
Quote:
Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
Yeah whatever. We manage to gain control of any region we attack, outnumbered - you lot gave up after a few days in Fountain and didn't even manage to make it inside their home system, much less take it over. You're in a defensive corp, no need to get defensive about that fact on the forums. Just admit attacking isnt your thing and leave it at that
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:32:00 -
[332]
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 08/09/2004 22:34:29
Quote:
I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance?
Been there, done that, murdered them
Quote:
Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
Yeah whatever. We manage to gain control of any region we attack, outnumbered - you lot gave up after a few days in Fountain and didn't even manage to make it inside their home system, much less take it over. You're in a defensive corp, no need to get defensive about that fact on the forums. Just admit attacking isnt your thing and leave it at that
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TIO 101
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:59:00 -
[333]
^^ is it a nay cos u didnt read my post, or is it nay cos ur too leet feh us
h4xb4n
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TIO 101
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:59:00 -
[334]
^^ is it a nay cos u didnt read my post, or is it nay cos ur too leet feh us
h4xb4n
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.08 23:15:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Presidio
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
8 months? I guess you have an issue reading a calender on top of being an idiot.
PA is dead.
You are simply to stupid to realize it.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.08 23:15:00 -
[336]
Originally by: Presidio
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
8 months? I guess you have an issue reading a calender on top of being an idiot.
PA is dead.
You are simply to stupid to realize it.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.09 00:49:00 -
[337]
Edited by: Presidio on 09/09/2004 00:52:23
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Presidio
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
8 months? I guess you have an issue reading a calender on top of being an idiot.
PA is dead.
You are simply to stupid to realize it.
Ok almost 8 months.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=61718
Difference between me and you is that you can't handle the truth, so you resort to name calling. Nowhere in this thread I called you or anyone names.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.09 00:49:00 -
[338]
Edited by: Presidio on 09/09/2004 00:52:23
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Presidio
LMFAO, credibility? Isn't your corporation the one that declared PA dead noumerous times over the past 8 months?
Thanks for making me laugh dude.
8 months? I guess you have an issue reading a calender on top of being an idiot.
PA is dead.
You are simply to stupid to realize it.
Ok almost 8 months.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=61718
Difference between me and you is that you can't handle the truth, so you resort to name calling. Nowhere in this thread I called you or anyone names.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.09 01:16:00 -
[339]
i think evolution wouldn't mind inviting an unbias reporter to investigate whose claims are correct, Cookie Cake n Pie Alliance or PA's.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.09 01:16:00 -
[340]
i think evolution wouldn't mind inviting an unbias reporter to investigate whose claims are correct, Cookie Cake n Pie Alliance or PA's.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:11:00 -
[341]
Originally by: Presidio
Difference between me and you is that you can't handle the truth, so you resort to name calling.
No. The difference between you and I, is that I know the truth, and don't make things up like you do.
I didn't call you any names. I said on top of being an idiot...
That's not calling you a name. I truly believe you are not very smart.
Show me your 200 evol bship kill list.
You can't.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:11:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Presidio
Difference between me and you is that you can't handle the truth, so you resort to name calling.
No. The difference between you and I, is that I know the truth, and don't make things up like you do.
I didn't call you any names. I said on top of being an idiot...
That's not calling you a name. I truly believe you are not very smart.
Show me your 200 evol bship kill list.
You can't.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:22:00 -
[343]
Edited by: Iluyen on 09/09/2004 05:29:01
Edited by: Iluyen on 09/09/2004 05:27:51
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 08/09/2004 22:34:29
Quote:
I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance?
Been there, done that, murdered them
Quote:
Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
Yeah whatever. We manage to gain control of any region we attack, outnumbered - you lot gave up after a few days in Fountain and didn't even manage to make it inside their home system, much less take it over. You're in a defensive corp, no need to get defensive about that fact on the forums. Just admit attacking isnt your thing and leave it at that
No Bob, you haven't when you where in CA you played exactly as you are playing now, you where on the offensive roaming around ganking stuff, when it came to defending mOo members where nowhere to be seen. As far as going on the offensive : been there, done that, so I know its much easier then defending territory.
And you never controlled curse space, you controlled paradise constellation at best. I didn't go to FA myself because I had problems with module lag at that time but the people who did go did not "give up" they were called back because we had more pressing targents nearer to curse. They did control FA space save for one system and they did get into their home system (have a look at the kills they got inside yz on our kill list system).
As usual you are talking out of your ass.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:22:00 -
[344]
Edited by: Iluyen on 09/09/2004 05:29:01
Edited by: Iluyen on 09/09/2004 05:27:51
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 08/09/2004 22:34:29
Quote:
I might as well ask if being in an alliance is SOOO easy and being a roving corp is soo hard why aren't you in an alliance?
Been there, done that, murdered them
Quote:
Given current game mechanics defending an alliance space is harder then moving around ganking thensafespotting whenever there is any resistance . Anyone claiming the contrary is an idiot.
Yeah whatever. We manage to gain control of any region we attack, outnumbered - you lot gave up after a few days in Fountain and didn't even manage to make it inside their home system, much less take it over. You're in a defensive corp, no need to get defensive about that fact on the forums. Just admit attacking isnt your thing and leave it at that
No Bob, you haven't when you where in CA you played exactly as you are playing now, you where on the offensive roaming around ganking stuff, when it came to defending mOo members where nowhere to be seen. As far as going on the offensive : been there, done that, so I know its much easier then defending territory.
And you never controlled curse space, you controlled paradise constellation at best. I didn't go to FA myself because I had problems with module lag at that time but the people who did go did not "give up" they were called back because we had more pressing targents nearer to curse. They did control FA space save for one system and they did get into their home system (have a look at the kills they got inside yz on our kill list system).
As usual you are talking out of your ass.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:29:00 -
[345]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Presidio
Difference between me and you is that you can't handle the truth, so you resort to name calling.
No. The difference between you and I, is that I know the truth, and don't make things up like you do.
Another Evol tries to backstroke...
Now that I prove you are lying you change the subject? (see that almost 8 month PA is dead thread)
If I am not smart what does that make you?
There is really no point in discussing this...
I show videos, I prove you guys are lying over and over again. And on top of it I own you.
I love it.
C ya in space loosers.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:29:00 -
[346]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Presidio
Difference between me and you is that you can't handle the truth, so you resort to name calling.
No. The difference between you and I, is that I know the truth, and don't make things up like you do.
Another Evol tries to backstroke...
Now that I prove you are lying you change the subject? (see that almost 8 month PA is dead thread)
If I am not smart what does that make you?
There is really no point in discussing this...
I show videos, I prove you guys are lying over and over again. And on top of it I own you.
I love it.
C ya in space loosers.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:39:00 -
[347]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Presidio
Difference between me and you is that you can't handle the truth, so you resort to name calling.
No. The difference between you and I, is that I know the truth, and don't make things up like you do.
Aother Evol tries to backstroke...
Now that I prove you are lying you change the subject? (see that almost 8 month PA is dead thread)
If I am not smart what does that make you?
There is really no point in discussing this...
I show videos, I prove you guys are lying over and over again. And on top of it I own you.
I love it.
C ya in space loosers.
ROLF I F**KING LOVE IT..
You are the biggest liar in EVE
Tell me again what regions do you own again..
n00b
kthxbye!!
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Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:39:00 -
[348]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Presidio
Difference between me and you is that you can't handle the truth, so you resort to name calling.
No. The difference between you and I, is that I know the truth, and don't make things up like you do.
Aother Evol tries to backstroke...
Now that I prove you are lying you change the subject? (see that almost 8 month PA is dead thread)
If I am not smart what does that make you?
There is really no point in discussing this...
I show videos, I prove you guys are lying over and over again. And on top of it I own you.
I love it.
C ya in space loosers.
ROLF I F**KING LOVE IT..
You are the biggest liar in EVE
Tell me again what regions do you own again..
n00b
kthxbye!!
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Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 06:00:00 -
[349]
Edited by: Tholarim on 09/09/2004 06:47:57
Originally by: Sassinak
Hate to burst ya bubble dude, but, our kill list lists only battleship kills, and its 3 times higher than your top ranking battleship killers :/
Doh!
Ermm sass, your list started end last year, ours started 2/2,5 months ago.
/edit i checked it, the system went fully operational at the 1st of august. Might wanna revise your remark there sass
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 06:00:00 -
[350]
Edited by: Tholarim on 09/09/2004 06:47:57
Originally by: Sassinak
Hate to burst ya bubble dude, but, our kill list lists only battleship kills, and its 3 times higher than your top ranking battleship killers :/
Doh!
Ermm sass, your list started end last year, ours started 2/2,5 months ago.
/edit i checked it, the system went fully operational at the 1st of august. Might wanna revise your remark there sass
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.09 08:46:00 -
[351]
ahh stop it you BAD HIJACKERS!!!!
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.09 08:46:00 -
[352]
ahh stop it you BAD HIJACKERS!!!!
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.09 08:50:00 -
[353]
btt
my list, not big, but imho we dont have many good PvP Corps in eve left
not in special order:
- Paladins of the red skull
- Teddybears
- maybe Dark Cartel, but thy are hanging out in empire too often
- Tundragons/Bonecollectors
thats it for my side
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.09 08:50:00 -
[354]
btt
my list, not big, but imho we dont have many good PvP Corps in eve left
not in special order:
- Paladins of the red skull
- Teddybears
- maybe Dark Cartel, but thy are hanging out in empire too often
- Tundragons/Bonecollectors
thats it for my side
Wanna fly with me?
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:10:00 -
[355]
Iluyen - So you now understand that it wasn't evolution haxing your computer and turning your moduels off.
Or you now understand we wasn't DOS'ing you or your teamspeak.
When you accused us of that your opinion become void forever.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:10:00 -
[356]
Iluyen - So you now understand that it wasn't evolution haxing your computer and turning your moduels off.
Or you now understand we wasn't DOS'ing you or your teamspeak.
When you accused us of that your opinion become void forever.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:55:00 -
[357]
Beeing part as OC i have invaded many regions, and my favourite part of fighting is assault. Why? Because it is so damn easy.
m0o has all these talks on how we handled FA, but from stories i hear from FA and m0o's side the FA has increased its responce and capability to handle attackers. The whole region has 1 point where who FA can be accesed... Only 1 solarsystem to defend. Any alliance can put 150 people at a gate and cause a lagtrap and fend off any attacks that way. FA has become more organised in their Fountain Prime system while we ruled all systems outside. Though i have to agree that we should have stayed longer, but this is my personal wish... We had resources for months ready, we could have fought till 2005 if the loss ratio was the same. How much i dislike the idea of leaving FA alone again at their other side of the universe, i do agree with the decision made thats it for the best. I for one will be back to kill FA.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:55:00 -
[358]
Beeing part as OC i have invaded many regions, and my favourite part of fighting is assault. Why? Because it is so damn easy.
m0o has all these talks on how we handled FA, but from stories i hear from FA and m0o's side the FA has increased its responce and capability to handle attackers. The whole region has 1 point where who FA can be accesed... Only 1 solarsystem to defend. Any alliance can put 150 people at a gate and cause a lagtrap and fend off any attacks that way. FA has become more organised in their Fountain Prime system while we ruled all systems outside. Though i have to agree that we should have stayed longer, but this is my personal wish... We had resources for months ready, we could have fought till 2005 if the loss ratio was the same. How much i dislike the idea of leaving FA alone again at their other side of the universe, i do agree with the decision made thats it for the best. I for one will be back to kill FA.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:01:00 -
[359]
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
Any alliance can put 150 people at a gate and cause a lagtrap and fend off any attacks that way.
So how does that make attacking easier then defending ?
Nah, more seriously I agree to a certain point.
Onn one hand defending is mroe easy because it takes alot less coordination. The corporations or groups most effective at assault are so because of their coordination. The groups most effective at defense are mostly so because of numbers, reserves and again coordination (but to a much lesser extent).
Oftenly, the attacking force sets the rules, the stage of the fight. But it has a much harder time bringing in supplies and reinforcements then a defending group...
All in all I still think the hardest thing to do is attack and win the area, driving out a group of people that has been calling an area home for a long time... People even say it can't be done, but I disagree.
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know.
Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online
Solutions to your issues. |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:01:00 -
[360]
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
Any alliance can put 150 people at a gate and cause a lagtrap and fend off any attacks that way.
So how does that make attacking easier then defending ?
Nah, more seriously I agree to a certain point.
Onn one hand defending is mroe easy because it takes alot less coordination. The corporations or groups most effective at assault are so because of their coordination. The groups most effective at defense are mostly so because of numbers, reserves and again coordination (but to a much lesser extent).
Oftenly, the attacking force sets the rules, the stage of the fight. But it has a much harder time bringing in supplies and reinforcements then a defending group...
All in all I still think the hardest thing to do is attack and win the area, driving out a group of people that has been calling an area home for a long time... People even say it can't be done, but I disagree.
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know.
Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online
Solutions to your issues. |
Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:19:00 -
[361]
Anyone notice the similarities between Presidio and Ex-Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf?
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:19:00 -
[362]
Anyone notice the similarities between Presidio and Ex-Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf?
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:25:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Val Duane
Anyone notice the similarities between Presidio and Ex-Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf?
I'm impressed you actually know the full name...
_______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know.
Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online
Solutions to your issues. |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:25:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Val Duane
Anyone notice the similarities between Presidio and Ex-Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf?
I'm impressed you actually know the full name...
_______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know.
Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online
Solutions to your issues. |
Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:26:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Val Duane
Anyone notice the similarities between Presidio and Ex-Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf?
I'm impressed you actually know the full name...
I Googled
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:26:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Val Duane
Anyone notice the similarities between Presidio and Ex-Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf?
I'm impressed you actually know the full name...
I Googled
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Baron Lusifer
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:23:00 -
[367]
First of all... I'm Inflatable Teen from The CollectiveÖ.
I can't remember my password on my account so I'm just using an alt account to post.
Quote:
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
From The CollectiveÖ kill list:
Battleship kills: 502
This kill list is since January 22nd
Battleship kills where we do not remember the pilots names are not logged, only 110% sure kills get on the list.
Total losses of The CollectiveÖ ships are:
Our deaths: 148
podded: 20
Our deaths involve Frigs, Haulers, Cruisers, deaths from NPC's, etc...
Now my list:
1. from may 6th 2003 to september 2003 is: m0o
1. from september 2003 to january 2004 is: RUS
1. from january 2004 to june 2004 is: The CollectiveÖ
1. from june 2004 to now is: ATUK
The reason ATUK gets the 1st place now is because they are just simply the most active PvP corp around today to my knowledge, and they engage mostly other PvP'ers.
Shinra are mad PvP'ers but they are more of a ganker squad then plain out PvP.
Omega Corp is almost all about ganking, and they are good at it.
RUS's prime was mad, they were the first corp to attack fleets twice their size and win, and they did it every day.
The Collective learned alot from fighting them, I still remember the first fight we felt we were getting better then them, us 9 against them 12 and we managed to make them jump out of DSS without any losses on our side, they loosing 2 BS's. (ohh the good old times)
m0o was of cource the PvP in the early stages of the game, but it consisted mostly of collecting corpses of ppl who didn't fight back. But when engaged they stood their ground and even fought the devs pretty well. :¦
It all started to change when the 2 RUS Arma's killed the 2 m0o Dominix's. (not that m0o isn't anygood at pvp anymore, they are, but never got to be nr. 1 again, despite of a few attempts)
The Collective controled Catch region for ~half a year, with khoulkkh and Aeryn Sun taking command of the SA fleet. No one can deny the fact that every CA pilot feared The Collective, hell, even the SA pilots feared us, we came back from empire space after all the EV argument rich, powerful, mad, and angry...
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My opinions are my opinions only and have nothing to do with my corp or alliance.
I'm also old and eccentric and in need of love.
Over and out
Inflatable Teen
Co-founder of the Stain AllianceÖ |
Baron Lusifer
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:23:00 -
[368]
First of all... I'm Inflatable Teen from The CollectiveÖ.
I can't remember my password on my account so I'm just using an alt account to post.
Quote:
Top 10 battleship wrecking corporations (all involved parties, distinct kills)
Omega Corp (466) , Vengeance of the Fallen (288) , Shinra (238) , Zoners (153) , Ota Corps (133) , 7th Space Cavalry (127) , Black Reign (126) , M. Corp (125) , Taggart Transdimensional (119) , SPECTRE Knights (94)
From The CollectiveÖ kill list:
Battleship kills: 502
This kill list is since January 22nd
Battleship kills where we do not remember the pilots names are not logged, only 110% sure kills get on the list.
Total losses of The CollectiveÖ ships are:
Our deaths: 148
podded: 20
Our deaths involve Frigs, Haulers, Cruisers, deaths from NPC's, etc...
Now my list:
1. from may 6th 2003 to september 2003 is: m0o
1. from september 2003 to january 2004 is: RUS
1. from january 2004 to june 2004 is: The CollectiveÖ
1. from june 2004 to now is: ATUK
The reason ATUK gets the 1st place now is because they are just simply the most active PvP corp around today to my knowledge, and they engage mostly other PvP'ers.
Shinra are mad PvP'ers but they are more of a ganker squad then plain out PvP.
Omega Corp is almost all about ganking, and they are good at it.
RUS's prime was mad, they were the first corp to attack fleets twice their size and win, and they did it every day.
The Collective learned alot from fighting them, I still remember the first fight we felt we were getting better then them, us 9 against them 12 and we managed to make them jump out of DSS without any losses on our side, they loosing 2 BS's. (ohh the good old times)
m0o was of cource the PvP in the early stages of the game, but it consisted mostly of collecting corpses of ppl who didn't fight back. But when engaged they stood their ground and even fought the devs pretty well. :¦
It all started to change when the 2 RUS Arma's killed the 2 m0o Dominix's. (not that m0o isn't anygood at pvp anymore, they are, but never got to be nr. 1 again, despite of a few attempts)
The Collective controled Catch region for ~half a year, with khoulkkh and Aeryn Sun taking command of the SA fleet. No one can deny the fact that every CA pilot feared The Collective, hell, even the SA pilots feared us, we came back from empire space after all the EV argument rich, powerful, mad, and angry...
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My opinions are my opinions only and have nothing to do with my corp or alliance.
I'm also old and eccentric and in need of love.
Over and out
Inflatable Teen
Co-founder of the Stain AllianceÖ |
Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:06:00 -
[369]
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:06:00 -
[370]
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:23:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Tholarim
Edited by: Tholarim on 09/09/2004 06:47:57
Originally by: Sassinak
Hate to burst ya bubble dude, but, our kill list lists only battleship kills, and its 3 times higher than your top ranking battleship killers :/
Doh!
Ermm sass, your list started end last year, ours started 2/2,5 months ago.
/edit i checked it, the system went fully operational at the 1st of august. Might wanna revise your remark there sass
our new list started 4.5 months ago.
it also contains the kills from our FA war and some in querious before that.
still CA has got alot of pvp corps and I would expect them to combinedly kill more than us.
Dreamworks, fountain
if attacking is so simple, how come you lost so many ships in the war against FA ? |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:23:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Tholarim
Edited by: Tholarim on 09/09/2004 06:47:57
Originally by: Sassinak
Hate to burst ya bubble dude, but, our kill list lists only battleship kills, and its 3 times higher than your top ranking battleship killers :/
Doh!
Ermm sass, your list started end last year, ours started 2/2,5 months ago.
/edit i checked it, the system went fully operational at the 1st of august. Might wanna revise your remark there sass
our new list started 4.5 months ago.
it also contains the kills from our FA war and some in querious before that.
still CA has got alot of pvp corps and I would expect them to combinedly kill more than us.
Dreamworks, fountain
if attacking is so simple, how come you lost so many ships in the war against FA ? |
Dreez
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:49:00 -
[373]
Ill try and get this thread back to its orgin, and i wont
list [OC] because its my own corp... for now.
And keep in mind that this list is based on my knowledge
and i dont know about all PvP corps out there, im ranking
the ones i know of , and how they fight.
1: Shinra - Fearless and good diciplin.
2: VOTF - Some very good PvPers.
3: RUS - I¦d hate to be their enemy.
4: BDCI - Respect.
5: m0o - A shadow of their old self, but still good.
There are a few Xetic Corps that I¦d like to also get on this
list but i cannot remember their tags, they fight with good
spirit, bravery and keep a very proffesional way in local.
I have not seen [EVOl] in a few months so i cannot value them
for any rankin,ݦve faught [ATUK] on several occations
and im not impressed.
My 2 cents, if¦ya dont like it... bite me.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Dreez
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:49:00 -
[374]
Ill try and get this thread back to its orgin, and i wont
list [OC] because its my own corp... for now.
And keep in mind that this list is based on my knowledge
and i dont know about all PvP corps out there, im ranking
the ones i know of , and how they fight.
1: Shinra - Fearless and good diciplin.
2: VOTF - Some very good PvPers.
3: RUS - I¦d hate to be their enemy.
4: BDCI - Respect.
5: m0o - A shadow of their old self, but still good.
There are a few Xetic Corps that I¦d like to also get on this
list but i cannot remember their tags, they fight with good
spirit, bravery and keep a very proffesional way in local.
I have not seen [EVOl] in a few months so i cannot value them
for any rankin,ݦve faught [ATUK] on several occations
and im not impressed.
My 2 cents, if¦ya dont like it... bite me.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Treptiomedes
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:04:00 -
[375]
Originally by: Tholarim
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
i respect you tholarim and your corp. you`re all honourable fighters, but when you`re calling yourself a pvp-corp, youd don`t need even numbers to win a fight, you should win most engagements even with lesser numbers
imho!
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Free-Space-Ranger
Fountain Alliance |
Treptiomedes
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:04:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Tholarim
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
i respect you tholarim and your corp. you`re all honourable fighters, but when you`re calling yourself a pvp-corp, youd don`t need even numbers to win a fight, you should win most engagements even with lesser numbers
imho!
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Free-Space-Ranger
Fountain Alliance |
Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:11:00 -
[377]
Originally by: Treptiomedes
Originally by: Tholarim
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
i respect you tholarim and your corp. you`re all honourable fighters, but when you`re calling yourself a pvp-corp, youd don`t need even numbers to win a fight, you should win most engagements even with lesser numbers
imho!
agree if you're fighting a non-pvp corp that even outnumbered you should win. But you can't expect to always win from other PvP corps in the game
you win some and you lose some. that's the way it works. But some ppl win a bit more then others
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:11:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Treptiomedes
Originally by: Tholarim
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
i respect you tholarim and your corp. you`re all honourable fighters, but when you`re calling yourself a pvp-corp, youd don`t need even numbers to win a fight, you should win most engagements even with lesser numbers
imho!
agree if you're fighting a non-pvp corp that even outnumbered you should win. But you can't expect to always win from other PvP corps in the game
you win some and you lose some. that's the way it works. But some ppl win a bit more then others
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:45:00 -
[379]
Most of the corps listed in top ten """not all""" work on a ""gank"" people tactic. I dont see how they could be considered the best pvp. I guess skills dont count anymore.
Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!! |
The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:45:00 -
[380]
Most of the corps listed in top ten """not all""" work on a ""gank"" people tactic. I dont see how they could be considered the best pvp. I guess skills dont count anymore.
Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!! |
Baron Lusifer
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:02:00 -
[381]
Originally by: Tholarim
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
No, meant that OC's tactics are ganking, you can't deny that ever since you were in SA that your main PvP tactics have been ganking enemy's.
+90% of your engagements that I remember have been when you are in enemy terretory looking for easy kills, but of cource you have fought fleets, I remember lots of fleet fights vs. u guys, but you aint very good at it, on the other hand you are very good at ganking, nothing wrong with that, and I don't see how you consider me be flaming anything, I was actually talking about you guys in a good way. Shinra is a good fleet fighting corp but they are even better in ganking, specially when they travel light, as in the 3-6 ship squadrons lead by Chowdown.
There is a difference in how PvP is fought, who knows, I might even rank OC as the best Ganking corp in the game, but then again, you'd be on the same list as many of the Piret corps, and you should know by yourself that being a piret is very easy, you can usually pick your fights, and you collect kills by killing easy targets.
The corps that deserved the number 1s on my list were corps that went into fights without thinking twice, knew they would win even if they had half the numbers that the opposing force had and still kick ass.
In my opinion onlu RUS in their era and The Collective in their era have shown exceptional skills and courage to put fear in the enemy minds to conquer battle over battle in a very long period of time.
I have never been afraid of OC as you lack something that we had once and RUS had before us.
ATUK got on the list because they are the most active PvP corp today to my knowledge, m0o got their because ppl feared them for months in a row, but unlike us and RUS they never fought as hard, maybie because when they finally hit us hard they were gone in a short time, same as when they along with Evol (wich is another very skilled PvP corp) hit CA they didn't stay for that long.
PvP strength in my opinion is not earned in a few amazing battles and a weekend of absolut power, its earned by being a steady force that gives the enemys around them shivers of having to face them.
But I tend to talk and talk and talk...
and this:
Quote:
Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap.
from where do get this from?
I never flame on purpose, not that I give a sh1t about anyone, but I do joke alot maybie, however your feelings are yours and my feelings are my mom's so peace out...
Inflatable Teen
Co-Founder of The Stain AllianceÖ |
Baron Lusifer
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:02:00 -
[382]
Originally by: Tholarim
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
No, meant that OC's tactics are ganking, you can't deny that ever since you were in SA that your main PvP tactics have been ganking enemy's.
+90% of your engagements that I remember have been when you are in enemy terretory looking for easy kills, but of cource you have fought fleets, I remember lots of fleet fights vs. u guys, but you aint very good at it, on the other hand you are very good at ganking, nothing wrong with that, and I don't see how you consider me be flaming anything, I was actually talking about you guys in a good way. Shinra is a good fleet fighting corp but they are even better in ganking, specially when they travel light, as in the 3-6 ship squadrons lead by Chowdown.
There is a difference in how PvP is fought, who knows, I might even rank OC as the best Ganking corp in the game, but then again, you'd be on the same list as many of the Piret corps, and you should know by yourself that being a piret is very easy, you can usually pick your fights, and you collect kills by killing easy targets.
The corps that deserved the number 1s on my list were corps that went into fights without thinking twice, knew they would win even if they had half the numbers that the opposing force had and still kick ass.
In my opinion onlu RUS in their era and The Collective in their era have shown exceptional skills and courage to put fear in the enemy minds to conquer battle over battle in a very long period of time.
I have never been afraid of OC as you lack something that we had once and RUS had before us.
ATUK got on the list because they are the most active PvP corp today to my knowledge, m0o got their because ppl feared them for months in a row, but unlike us and RUS they never fought as hard, maybie because when they finally hit us hard they were gone in a short time, same as when they along with Evol (wich is another very skilled PvP corp) hit CA they didn't stay for that long.
PvP strength in my opinion is not earned in a few amazing battles and a weekend of absolut power, its earned by being a steady force that gives the enemys around them shivers of having to face them.
But I tend to talk and talk and talk...
and this:
Quote:
Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap.
from where do get this from?
I never flame on purpose, not that I give a sh1t about anyone, but I do joke alot maybie, however your feelings are yours and my feelings are my mom's so peace out...
Inflatable Teen
Co-Founder of The Stain AllianceÖ |
Ackath
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:03:00 -
[383]
What the hell i want to state my opinion too :) :
Top pvp corps from Curse
1. Shinra & OC very hard to differentiate and they have almost the same style of fighting, namely highly mobile always looking to overwhelm their foes at the time of the battle, not exactly ganking..
3.VOTF very similar to my corp in a very wierd way :)
4.RUSsians
5.BOS & Gatekeepers
Top pvp corps my alliance:
1.The Collective
2.IGS
3.Tyrell
4.Murini Ice Syndicate @ Species 5...I forgot
5.Interstellar Elite
Other corps:
1 m0o & evolution
2.Celstial Apocalypse
3.Celestial Horizon(sp)& TPMAC (sp) xetic guys
4.PIE
Overall best corp
1.ATUK - the only corp that sent shivers to me bones when they were attacking Stain and with Zeal Dragon in their ranks now they will pretty much own everybody in eve
I purposely left MASS out of any of the above because i feel like i would be voting for myself, nevertheless MASS is a force to reckon with when we get the chance to get together
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Ackath
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:03:00 -
[384]
What the hell i want to state my opinion too :) :
Top pvp corps from Curse
1. Shinra & OC very hard to differentiate and they have almost the same style of fighting, namely highly mobile always looking to overwhelm their foes at the time of the battle, not exactly ganking..
3.VOTF very similar to my corp in a very wierd way :)
4.RUSsians
5.BOS & Gatekeepers
Top pvp corps my alliance:
1.The Collective
2.IGS
3.Tyrell
4.Murini Ice Syndicate @ Species 5...I forgot
5.Interstellar Elite
Other corps:
1 m0o & evolution
2.Celstial Apocalypse
3.Celestial Horizon(sp)& TPMAC (sp) xetic guys
4.PIE
Overall best corp
1.ATUK - the only corp that sent shivers to me bones when they were attacking Stain and with Zeal Dragon in their ranks now they will pretty much own everybody in eve
I purposely left MASS out of any of the above because i feel like i would be voting for myself, nevertheless MASS is a force to reckon with when we get the chance to get together
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:17:00 -
[385]
lol i dont understand some of these, ever since the tps civil war biomass has recruited some nub ass pilots that can't fly for ****
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Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out
Pa1nbringr > sick
Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:17:00 -
[386]
lol i dont understand some of these, ever since the tps civil war biomass has recruited some nub ass pilots that can't fly for ****
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Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out
Pa1nbringr > sick
Fedaykin Naib > lol
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.09.09 16:01:00 -
[387]
I may as well add my tuppence....
I'm pretty ignorant about non Southern Area people, but heres what i tihnk from personal experience.
1.Evolution. very impressed when we fouight alongside them.
2.Old days RUS. agins, positive attacking attitude.
3.Shinra, fighting with CHowdown (with and against) is always fun, and the old crew were fun to fly with.
4.The Collective. always well organised, for along time I regarded them as our main rival, when we were CA.
5. OC. seemingly well practised in the art of the gank. Why they take this as criticism is beyond me, unless they are somehow embarrased by it?
6. BIG. well organised fight we had with them down in TPAR. I was very impressed (for an alleged bunch of carebears! lol!)
7. Xanadu. great Corp, who I really like. woot!
8. Mass. another old rival, and well organised , and a good friend to have now.
9. Moo. mainly for keeping people on their toes, and for the old days, when they kept everyone in fear!
10. NPC's. they have royally screwed ATUK over more than any other corp I can think of.
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.09.09 16:01:00 -
[388]
I may as well add my tuppence....
I'm pretty ignorant about non Southern Area people, but heres what i tihnk from personal experience.
1.Evolution. very impressed when we fouight alongside them.
2.Old days RUS. agins, positive attacking attitude.
3.Shinra, fighting with CHowdown (with and against) is always fun, and the old crew were fun to fly with.
4.The Collective. always well organised, for along time I regarded them as our main rival, when we were CA.
5. OC. seemingly well practised in the art of the gank. Why they take this as criticism is beyond me, unless they are somehow embarrased by it?
6. BIG. well organised fight we had with them down in TPAR. I was very impressed (for an alleged bunch of carebears! lol!)
7. Xanadu. great Corp, who I really like. woot!
8. Mass. another old rival, and well organised , and a good friend to have now.
9. Moo. mainly for keeping people on their toes, and for the old days, when they kept everyone in fear!
10. NPC's. they have royally screwed ATUK over more than any other corp I can think of.
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 16:02:00 -
[389]
Originally by: Baron Lusifer
Originally by: Tholarim
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
No, meant that OC's tactics are ganking, you can't deny that ever since you were in SA that your main PvP tactics have been ganking enemy's.
+90% of your engagements that I remember have been when you are in enemy terretory looking for easy kills, but of cource you have fought fleets, I remember lots of fleet fights vs. u guys, but you aint very good at it, on the other hand you are very good at ganking, nothing wrong with that, and I don't see how you consider me be flaming anything, I was actually talking about you guys in a good way. Shinra is a good fleet fighting corp but they are even better in ganking, specially when they travel light, as in the 3-6 ship squadrons lead by Chowdown.
There is a difference in how PvP is fought, who knows, I might even rank OC as the best Ganking corp in the game, but then again, you'd be on the same list as many of the Piret corps, and you should know by yourself that being a piret is very easy, you can usually pick your fights, and you collect kills by killing easy targets.
The corps that deserved the number 1s on my list were corps that went into fights without thinking twice, knew they would win even if they had half the numbers that the opposing force had and still kick ass.
In my opinion onlu RUS in their era and The Collective in their era have shown exceptional skills and courage to put fear in the enemy minds to conquer battle over battle in a very long period of time.
I have never been afraid of OC as you lack something that we had once and RUS had before us.
ATUK got on the list because they are the most active PvP corp today to my knowledge, m0o got their because ppl feared them for months in a row, but unlike us and RUS they never fought as hard, maybie because when they finally hit us hard they were gone in a short time, same as when they along with Evol (wich is another very skilled PvP corp) hit CA they didn't stay for that long.
PvP strength in my opinion is not earned in a few amazing battles and a weekend of absolut power, its earned by being a steady force that gives the enemys around them shivers of having to face them.
But I tend to talk and talk and talk...
and this:
Quote:
Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap.
from where do get this from?
I never flame on purpose, not that I give a sh1t about anyone, but I do joke alot maybie, however your feelings are yours and my feelings are my mom's so peace out...
Inflatable Teen
Co-Founder of The Stain AllianceÖ
Good to see you're modest.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 16:02:00 -
[390]
Originally by: Baron Lusifer
Originally by: Tholarim
So inflatable teen, in your mind all CA is gankers we never beat you fair etc etc right? Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap. I've fought many alliance and i think alot can agree that we will never back away from a close to equal fight.
No, meant that OC's tactics are ganking, you can't deny that ever since you were in SA that your main PvP tactics have been ganking enemy's.
+90% of your engagements that I remember have been when you are in enemy terretory looking for easy kills, but of cource you have fought fleets, I remember lots of fleet fights vs. u guys, but you aint very good at it, on the other hand you are very good at ganking, nothing wrong with that, and I don't see how you consider me be flaming anything, I was actually talking about you guys in a good way. Shinra is a good fleet fighting corp but they are even better in ganking, specially when they travel light, as in the 3-6 ship squadrons lead by Chowdown.
There is a difference in how PvP is fought, who knows, I might even rank OC as the best Ganking corp in the game, but then again, you'd be on the same list as many of the Piret corps, and you should know by yourself that being a piret is very easy, you can usually pick your fights, and you collect kills by killing easy targets.
The corps that deserved the number 1s on my list were corps that went into fights without thinking twice, knew they would win even if they had half the numbers that the opposing force had and still kick ass.
In my opinion onlu RUS in their era and The Collective in their era have shown exceptional skills and courage to put fear in the enemy minds to conquer battle over battle in a very long period of time.
I have never been afraid of OC as you lack something that we had once and RUS had before us.
ATUK got on the list because they are the most active PvP corp today to my knowledge, m0o got their because ppl feared them for months in a row, but unlike us and RUS they never fought as hard, maybie because when they finally hit us hard they were gone in a short time, same as when they along with Evol (wich is another very skilled PvP corp) hit CA they didn't stay for that long.
PvP strength in my opinion is not earned in a few amazing battles and a weekend of absolut power, its earned by being a steady force that gives the enemys around them shivers of having to face them.
But I tend to talk and talk and talk...
and this:
Quote:
Ahh well you always flame away at anything anyway and say you don't respect other ppl for posting crap.
from where do get this from?
I never flame on purpose, not that I give a sh1t about anyone, but I do joke alot maybie, however your feelings are yours and my feelings are my mom's so peace out...
Inflatable Teen
Co-Founder of The Stain AllianceÖ
Good to see you're modest.
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Piccilo
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Posted - 2004.09.09 16:32:00 -
[391]
what a fun little thread- whos crazy idea was it to bring back top 10 again?? :)
and yes it is great fun to be part of shinra's ~8 ppl alpha team, esp with chow- too bad a couple of the other guys aint about as much :(
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Piccilo
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Posted - 2004.09.09 16:32:00 -
[392]
what a fun little thread- whos crazy idea was it to bring back top 10 again?? :)
and yes it is great fun to be part of shinra's ~8 ppl alpha team, esp with chow- too bad a couple of the other guys aint about as much :(
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2004.09.09 17:47:00 -
[393]
Chucking my **** into the pan, I'll go with...
1: Angelsanshaguristapentis conglomerate - pwns ATUK all the time, as Jimmysav said.
2: m0o - unpredictable, omniscient and deadly
3: Evol - professional and organised
4: Collective - glad to be on their side of the fence
5: Xanadu - nice fleet battlers
6: OC - scary if you jump into them
7: Mass - another organised and professional stain corp
8: Shinra - fun to run away from and respected as enemies
9: Reikoku - uber terrorists
10: VOTF - good tactics - the only corp yet to surprise me while I was being a npc'ing carebear.
Good to see this thread still going and not descending into "Flames III - The Revenge".
E.T. Radio - designed to enhance your flying experience....
http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u |
Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2004.09.09 17:47:00 -
[394]
Chucking my **** into the pan, I'll go with...
1: Angelsanshaguristapentis conglomerate - pwns ATUK all the time, as Jimmysav said.
2: m0o - unpredictable, omniscient and deadly
3: Evol - professional and organised
4: Collective - glad to be on their side of the fence
5: Xanadu - nice fleet battlers
6: OC - scary if you jump into them
7: Mass - another organised and professional stain corp
8: Shinra - fun to run away from and respected as enemies
9: Reikoku - uber terrorists
10: VOTF - good tactics - the only corp yet to surprise me while I was being a npc'ing carebear.
Good to see this thread still going and not descending into "Flames III - The Revenge".
E.T. Radio - designed to enhance your flying experience....
http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u |
Diee
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Posted - 2004.09.09 22:41:00 -
[395]
Quote:
So where in venal is PA alive and kicking then?
kthxbye
Hahahaha, I dunno, but I'm getting rich of selling passes to SOL people
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World of Warcraft did what Evolution couldn't |
Diee
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Posted - 2004.09.09 22:41:00 -
[396]
Quote:
So where in venal is PA alive and kicking then?
kthxbye
Hahahaha, I dunno, but I'm getting rich of selling passes to SOL people
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World of Warcraft did what Evolution couldn't |
Lallante
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Posted - 2004.09.10 00:19:00 -
[397]
Guys can I just say you have saved chow ú12000.
He was going to have enlargement surgery on "(midget)baby Chow", but all this praise for Shinra has given him such a hard-on that he no longer needs it!
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.09.10 00:19:00 -
[398]
Guys can I just say you have saved chow ú12000.
He was going to have enlargement surgery on "(midget)baby Chow", but all this praise for Shinra has given him such a hard-on that he no longer needs it!
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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EternalDark
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Posted - 2004.09.10 04:18:00 -
[399]
Top Ten:
Omega Corp - Fast moving hard hitting bad asses.
Shinra - Growing again and having great success.
Rus - Still the organization masters, Bound by blood to the
death of all.
m0o - Downright fun to fight, in Curse, CFS, Venal, wherever, roll the dice for the next alliance that gets it. See you guys soon : )
Atuk - Organized effective fighting force, Guruilla to all out slug fest very few can match them.
Cataclysm Enterprises - Organized and deadly, if your on the wrong end of thier guns your probably already dead.
Bodycount - The definition of "merc" and the only ones who are worthy of the name.
Collective - Will happily whipe the floor with anyone but the most dedicated pvp corporations, If your on the top of your game you might get lucky.
Mass - Experienced and determined fighters, willing to sacrifice themselves for thier friends, and worthy in this list.
Zombie - Don't mess with them, and hope they don't mess with you, There doing what they do to kill you, and they are very good at it.
Very few others have impressed me, but if you would like to try please feel free to come on down to HLW, American timzone only please : )
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EternalDark
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Posted - 2004.09.10 04:18:00 -
[400]
Top Ten:
Omega Corp - Fast moving hard hitting bad asses.
Shinra - Growing again and having great success.
Rus - Still the organization masters, Bound by blood to the
death of all.
m0o - Downright fun to fight, in Curse, CFS, Venal, wherever, roll the dice for the next alliance that gets it. See you guys soon : )
Atuk - Organized effective fighting force, Guruilla to all out slug fest very few can match them.
Cataclysm Enterprises - Organized and deadly, if your on the wrong end of thier guns your probably already dead.
Bodycount - The definition of "merc" and the only ones who are worthy of the name.
Collective - Will happily whipe the floor with anyone but the most dedicated pvp corporations, If your on the top of your game you might get lucky.
Mass - Experienced and determined fighters, willing to sacrifice themselves for thier friends, and worthy in this list.
Zombie - Don't mess with them, and hope they don't mess with you, There doing what they do to kill you, and they are very good at it.
Very few others have impressed me, but if you would like to try please feel free to come on down to HLW, American timzone only please : )
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