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![Francisco Bizzaro Francisco Bizzaro](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91756636/portrait?size=64)
Francisco Bizzaro
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Posted - 2012.05.11 10:11:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:In fact from watching PVP guide videos it is PVPers who dont have much of a social life, what with spending HOURS looking for targets etc Im not against PVP, just saying ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) Well, in response to the subject of this thread, thank you for clarifying miners' attitudes. Miners are no longer misunderstood.
However, I don't think our new-found understanding is accomplishing the goal of making miners any less of a target. Maybe the contrary. Just saying ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) |
![Helicity Boson Helicity Boson](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1350332682/portrait?size=64)
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
470
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Posted - 2012.05.11 10:15:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things
We do get it, and this is precisely why they are dying by the thousands during my event.
Mine AFK, Die AFK.
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![Desert Ice78 Desert Ice78](https://images.evetech.net/characters/766873070/portrait?size=64)
Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
103
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Posted - 2012.05.11 11:11:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back. Hulks don't shoot back, dummy.
Got you with that one ![Big smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
+1 I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
![Peter Raptor Peter Raptor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1810298893/portrait?size=64)
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
137
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:18:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things We do get it, and this is precisely why they are dying by the thousands during my event. Mine AFK, Die AFK.
I think you mean, mine in hisec, die in hisec.............. can't beat an alpha strike whether youre afk or not. Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
![Starsplash Starsplash](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91364562/portrait?size=64)
Starsplash
The Red Circle Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:52:00 -
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****, I love mining. I mine and play Xbox360.
Sure, I missioned during hulkaggeddon, but the limited amount of kills to salvage loot, the waste of time by going back and forth from station to mission area (wish you can turn in quests and requests quest remotly?) is just obnoxious, escpecially the first part.
However, you still have to pay attention though. Can't really mine afk or you will get killed where ever you are.
With that in mind, is hulkaggeddon done now? |
![Pinstar Colton Pinstar Colton](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91761439/portrait?size=64)
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
47
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:52:00 -
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Mining is different for different people, depending on their goals.
Sometimes, someone's goal is to get in that shiny T2 ship full of shiny T2 modules. For that, they need money and mining is a means to that end.
Some people see getting isk as its own goal and mining is a way to achieve that.
I personally mine when I'm waiting for something else. If I'm waiting for my jump clone timer to count down before I do my next operation...or if I'm waiting for my kids to go to bed so I can focus without interruption, or if I'm waiting for an agent's 4 hour decline timer to run out...I'll mine.
How much or how little mining a person chooses to do is a choice on their part. I hold people who say "I would tear my eyes out if I have to mine" and "I refuse to do anything BUT mine" in equal respect.
I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |
![No'mak No'mak](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1259297427/portrait?size=64)
No'mak
Viziam Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:59:00 -
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I mine because it makes a whole load of other people who don't mine insanely and illogically angry ;)
I really don't understand why it gets others so riled up, but I enjoy seeing it play out in the forums and in-game. I also don't understand why carebear miners cry so much when they get ganked... Both people need to realise this is a sandbox - therefore we do what we want.
I'm sure I'm not alone in this sentiment! |
![Kale Eledar Kale Eledar](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1737985126/portrait?size=64)
Kale Eledar
Mining and Industrial Services The Irukandji
46
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:01:00 -
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I used to mine and totally get why people find it relaxing. However, I now do a bit of everything and have to be in a certain mood to mine, namely
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![Ana Vyr Ana Vyr](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1619863419/portrait?size=64)
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
255
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:25:00 -
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Most EvE players would rather destroy things than create them. It's the nature of the game.
What I don't get is why nobody seems to see the calm serenity of mining as a relaxing thing to do. I work all day in a chaotic environment. I get home to the chaos of my family life. After I finally get the last kid down to bed, walk the dog, and review the day with my wife, it's really nice to sit down with a beer and just mine for an hour or two to unwind from all that stuff.
Doesn't anybody else do this? Mining is perfect for this sort of thing. |
![Andski Andski](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1498850496/portrait?size=64)
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4213
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:28:00 -
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what i don't get is why nobody seems to see the calm serenity of suicide ganking as a relaxing thing to do "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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![Steel Wraith Steel Wraith](https://images.evetech.net/characters/386019251/portrait?size=64)
Steel Wraith
49
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:44:00 -
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My name is Steel Wraith and I am a miner.
But I'd never mine if I meant to give Eve my full attention. In that case I would actually play Eve. Mining isk/hour is low, it's true, but mining isk/attention-hour is huge. |
![FluffyDice FluffyDice](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1741514984/portrait?size=64)
FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc.
190
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:44:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:cos you of turn away for a sec, you could be popped. Now do you understand the Glory of Mining ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) ![Cool](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) Not empty quoting. |
![Holy One Holy One](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1210583457/portrait?size=64)
Holy One
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
200
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:07:00 -
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Pffft in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with guns and those who dig.
You dig. |
![Pinstar Colton Pinstar Colton](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91761439/portrait?size=64)
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
47
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:15:00 -
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Holy One wrote:Pffft in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with guns and those who dig.
You dig.
At least they took out the ability for guns to dig.
Now someone has to dig, if you want any guns. :) I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |
![Morgan Knight Morgan Knight](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2050988692/portrait?size=64)
Morgan Knight
Just Another Industrial Corp Barbarian Wine and Cheese Society
0
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:27:00 -
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Holy One wrote:Pffft in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with guns and those who dig.
You dig.
Sorry for being pedantic but if youGÇÖre gonna quite films, quote GÇÿem right.
GÇ£You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.GÇ¥
Just being picky I know. ![Big smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
![Peter Raptor Peter Raptor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1810298893/portrait?size=64)
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
141
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:57:00 -
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Ana Vyr wrote:Most EvE players would rather destroy things than create them. It's the nature of the game.
What I don't get is why nobody seems to see the calm serenity of mining as a relaxing thing to do. I work all day in a chaotic environment. I get home to the chaos of my family life. After I finally get the last kid down to bed, walk the dog, and review the day with my wife, it's really nice to sit down with a beer and just mine for an hour or two to unwind from all that stuff.
Doesn't anybody else do this? Mining is perfect for this sort of thing.
You have really nailed it man, mining is just the thing to zone out after a hard days work while enjoying the awesome Eve Space graphix and contemplating the meaning of the Universe and everything in it.
Gankers do try mining, you'll probably enjoy the relaxation of it, and you won't be so.................. angry in RL and angry in Eve.
Chill out ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
![Torneach Torneach](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91809505/portrait?size=64)
Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
85
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Posted - 2012.05.13 05:19:00 -
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Fighting a losing battle there, Peter. People who want to hate/blow up miners will hate/blow up miners no matter what. |
![Peter Raptor Peter Raptor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1810298893/portrait?size=64)
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
141
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Posted - 2012.05.13 05:42:00 -
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I may make a few conversions, and Eve will then be a better place for all ![Cool](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
![Kietay Ayari Kietay Ayari](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91150651/portrait?size=64)
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
437
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:47:00 -
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Almost as fun as
Bright and Fun Adventure Time
Except for the TS3 overlay. Ferox #1 |
![EvEa Deva EvEa Deva](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90779075/portrait?size=64)
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.05.13 07:10:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back.
Not sure they mine for FUN, I think they do it for money.
About this carebear shoot back thing........... ummm yeahh |
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![Pres Crendraven Pres Crendraven](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91437995/portrait?size=64)
Pres Crendraven
19
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Posted - 2012.05.13 07:28:00 -
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Minerals are going down everywhere but jita Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |
![Peter Raptor Peter Raptor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1810298893/portrait?size=64)
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
143
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Posted - 2012.05.13 07:59:00 -
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Pres Crendraven wrote:Minerals are going down everywhere but jita
Yeah I cant understand that actually, 4000 dead hulks and mineral prices dropping? Thats really something, could it be the hoarders filling the gaps ![Question](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
![Pres Crendraven Pres Crendraven](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91437995/portrait?size=64)
Pres Crendraven
19
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:20:00 -
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Its as if the Hulk pilots are also industrialists and there's nobody left interested in buying minerals. Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |
![Stirko Hek Stirko Hek](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1635165109/portrait?size=64)
Stirko Hek
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.13 10:33:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Ana Vyr wrote:Most EvE players would rather destroy things than create them. It's the nature of the game.
What I don't get is why nobody seems to see the calm serenity of mining as a relaxing thing to do. I work all day in a chaotic environment. I get home to the chaos of my family life. After I finally get the last kid down to bed, walk the dog, and review the day with my wife, it's really nice to sit down with a beer and just mine for an hour or two to unwind from all that stuff.
Doesn't anybody else do this? Mining is perfect for this sort of thing. You have really nailed it man, mining is just the thing to zone out after a hard days work while enjoying the awesome Eve Space graphix and contemplating the meaning of the Universe and everything in it. Gankers do try mining, you'll probably enjoy the relaxation of it, and you won't be so.................. angry in RL and angry in Eve. Chill out ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
I started playing EVE as a miner, got into a hulk, had an orca alt, got perfect refining skills and all that. It was great, when I was unemployed.
Then I got full time work, and found that my free time just became a heck of a lot more valuable to me and spending my time at home dragging and dropping ore from cargo to cargo was the most mind numbing thing, for such a pitiful amount of ISK.
That said, if I really want to chill and relax, I grab a book and read for a bit. And no, I really would not find it worth interrupting my reading every few minutes for chump change. |
![Fredfredbug4 Fredfredbug4](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1888839882/portrait?size=64)
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:02:00 -
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Pardon me, but exactly what is so glorious about ugly ships shooting lasers at ugly rocks for hours upon end? |
![Peter Raptor Peter Raptor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1810298893/portrait?size=64)
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
143
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:34:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Pardon me, but exactly what is so glorious about ugly ships shooting lasers at ugly rocks for hours upon end?
Well it keeps your analytical brain working as your creative brain does other things ![Cool](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
Sure mining as a primary activity isn't all that exciting, but mining as a "background" activity is.......fun ....in a "background fun" kinda way ![Bear](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
![Fredfredbug4 Fredfredbug4](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1888839882/portrait?size=64)
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:25:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Pardon me, but exactly what is so glorious about ugly ships shooting lasers at ugly rocks for hours upon end? Well it keeps your analytical brain working as your creative brain does other things ![Cool](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) Sure mining as a primary activity isn't all that exciting, but mining as a "background" activity is.......fun ....in a "background fun" kinda way ![Bear](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png)
That's the only way I would ever imagine mining to be bearable to anyone that isn't insane or mentally handicapped, if your doing something else while you mine. However it defeats the whole point of playing the game. Think of it this way, people don't go buy a movie ticket and let the movie run while they do other errands. The point of a game is to actually play it, and a profession based entirely on making a few mouse clicks every 10 to 20 minutes without any real strategy to it is hardly playing the game, and quite frankly hardly fair. Even mission running, possibly the second easiest profession in EVE requires 100 times more things to deal with than mining. Even fitting is different. A mission fitting needs to be able to apply DPS and tank DPS with multiple sub categories such as cap stability depending on what else you put on your ship. A mining fit only needs mining tools, everything else is purely optional.
Mining needs a complete overhaul, it needs to be more intuitive and not mindless. |
![Lin-Young Borovskova Lin-Young Borovskova](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90850267/portrait?size=64)
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:52:00 -
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EvEa Deva wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back. Not sure they mine for FUN, I think they do it for money. About this carebear shoot back thing........... ummm yeahh
You assume all miners are RMT s. Nice stuff, uber game. |
![Peter Raptor Peter Raptor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1810298893/portrait?size=64)
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
143
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:14:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Pardon me, but exactly what is so glorious about ugly ships shooting lasers at ugly rocks for hours upon end? Well it keeps your analytical brain working as your creative brain does other things ![Cool](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) Sure mining as a primary activity isn't all that exciting, but mining as a "background" activity is.......fun ....in a "background fun" kinda way ![Bear](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) That's the only way I would ever imagine mining to be bearable to anyone that isn't insane or mentally handicapped, if your doing something else while you mine. However it defeats the whole point of playing the game. Think of it this way, people don't go buy a movie ticket and let the movie run while they do other errands. The point of a game is to actually play it, and a profession based entirely on making a few mouse clicks every 10 to 20 minutes without any real strategy to it is hardly playing the game, and quite frankly hardly fair. Even mission running, possibly the second easiest profession in EVE requires 100 times more things to deal with than mining. Even fitting is different. A mission fitting needs to be able to apply DPS and tank DPS with multiple sub categories such as cap stability depending on what else you put on your ship. A mining fit only needs mining tools, everything else is purely optional. Mining needs a complete overhaul, it needs to be more intuitive and not mindless.
You have to cater for those who do not want to sit GLUED in front of a monitor for hours on end doing pvp/missioning; some people , like myself, simply do not have time to give undivided attention for hours to a video game. I mean I have done that in the past, and FOR ME, its one of the most unsatisfying/unproductive ways to spend your day ![Roll](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
![Unit757 Unit757](https://images.evetech.net/characters/478134817/portrait?size=64)
Unit757
North Point Cannabis Legionis
2
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:21:00 -
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As someone who has mined before, Glory and Mining shouldn't be used in the same sentence, unless glory is preceded by "Lack of". Building things is necessary, but blowing them up will always be more fun. |
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