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Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
130
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:56:00 -
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Here am I reflecting on the meaning of life, listening to space music and trying to help fellow players build their shiny ships by selling minerals to them at rock bottom prices (pardon the pun )
[IMG]http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8863/capture1wu.th.png[/IMG]
And the thanks I and my fellow hard working miners get, for all the effort we put in to help our fellow players to build their shiny ships with our minerals is..........................Hulkageddon
This game is Hilarious in its Absurdity at times Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1415
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:59:00 -
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Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Julyan Fox
The crossroad Co.
29
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:06:00 -
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Look, once I recommanded EVE to a guy on a forum and his answer was (hope CCP will read this) :
Quote:My problem is with the gameplay. Essentially you have a job. So I was paying to have a job in the future that i didnt get paid for. Thus ended my career as a space prospector Wink .
Mining in EVE isn't videogame. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
355
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:15:00 -
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There is so much stockpiled ore from miners and bots past that mining today is simply ************. Some sort of sad self fulfillment to make your own items when its more time efficient to shoot a few bounties and buy the item out right that had already been made from a cache of trillions of minerals that never dwindles as future scrubs keep adding to it after the fact for dirt cheap as they cant understand the fact that time equals isk and believes that since they mined it that its free money. Which any sane individual will see as a mind numbing futile goal if they are looking for profit. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
460
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:19:00 -
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Glory? You use that word, but I do not think it means what you think it does. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
130
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:45:00 -
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But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then.
If you only PVP, thats all you can do; PVP, cos you of turn away for a sec, you could be popped.
Now do you understand the Glory of Mining Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1415
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:47:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then. If you only PVP, thats all you can do; PVP, cos you of turn away for a sec, you could be popped. Now do you understand the Glory of Mining
Some of us prefer to live our lives or have fun playing a game at different times, not attempt to do both at the same time poorly. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6578
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:51:00 -
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Because they have a tendency to misunderstand the (virtual) world they live in. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:56:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back.
Hulks don't shoot back, dummy. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1417
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Posted - 2012.05.11 03:10:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back. Hulks don't shoot back, dummy.
Hulkageddon is but a tiny fraction of the PvP happening in EVE. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1072
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Posted - 2012.05.11 04:43:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:Glory? You use that word, but I do not think it means what you think it does. This. Also,look up hardworking. |
Space Mitt Romney
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.11 04:54:00 -
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Let the mining industry fail |
Generals4
Caldari State
706
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Posted - 2012.05.11 04:54:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then. If you only PVP, thats all you can do; PVP, cos you of turn away for a sec, you could be popped. Now do you understand the Glory of Mining
Wouldn't you agree that at that point you technically aren't really playing? Personally i find mining in its current state only good as secundary isk provider in times i want to do something else but yet want to make iskies. -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
131
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:22:00 -
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Generals4 wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then. If you only PVP, thats all you can do; PVP, cos you of turn away for a sec, you could be popped. Now do you understand the Glory of Mining Wouldn't you agree that at that point you technically aren't really playing? Personally i find mining in its current state only good as secundary isk provider in times i want to do something else but yet want to make iskies.
You are half-playing, and thats the cool thing for people who like to do many things at the same time, can't do that with PVP.
And I also do like zoning out sometimes when I reflect on the cool Nebulae in the background Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Riyal
Chode Extravaganza
30
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:45:00 -
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Strip miners are blue these days? Its kinda bad that I didn't know that but make an eve living manufacturing stuff. |
Francisco Bizzaro
102
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:56:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then. Clearly. And to pay for that RL productivity only costs the occasional hulk wreck. Let's hope your extracurricular activities are satisfying enough that we don't need to see you on the forums complaining that hulks need a tank buff because you lost one while doing the dishes. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
664
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:58:00 -
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Francisco Bizzaro wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then. Clearly. And to pay for that RL productivity only costs the occasional hulk wreck. Let's hope your extracurricular activities are satisfying enough that we don't need to see you on the forums complaining that hulks need a tank buff because you lost one while doing the dishes. No, still needs moar tank... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
132
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Posted - 2012.05.11 06:24:00 -
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Francisco Bizzaro wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then. Clearly. And to pay for that RL productivity only costs the occasional hulk wreck. Let's hope your extracurricular activities are satisfying enough that we don't need to see you on the forums complaining that hulks need a tank buff because you lost one while doing the dishes.
Dishes and highsec mining don't mix these days, youre right. Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Malak Dawnfire
27th Gallentean Fleet
5
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Posted - 2012.05.11 06:36:00 -
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Miners let you play internet spaceships while they play...real life, what's wrong with that? Why the hate! |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1419
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Posted - 2012.05.11 06:42:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:Miners let you play internet spaceships while they play...real life, what's wrong with that? Why the hate!
Miners don't get to play real life as much as anyone else in EVE.
Keeping your PC running and checking on it for long hours keeps you tethered to your home / apartment. Sure, you can do other things, to a point. Mining is very time consuming and thus half-playing is limiting both in game and outside it. The alternative is to bot, which is bannable.
By contrast, everyone else can log in and log out as they please, experienced condensed entertainment or sit around as they please, then hop off and hit the pub. No tether. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
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Malak Dawnfire
27th Gallentean Fleet
7
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Posted - 2012.05.11 06:53:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:Miners let you play internet spaceships while they play...real life, what's wrong with that? Why the hate! Miners don't get to play real life as much as anyone else in EVE. Keeping your PC running and checking on it for long hours keeps you tethered to your home / apartment. Sure, you can do other things, to a point. Mining is very time consuming and thus half-playing is limiting both in game and outside it. The alternative is to bot, which is bannable. By contrast, everyone else can log in and log out as they please, experienced condensed entertainment or just chat, then hop off and hit the pub. No tether. This is why people look at miners and scoff. the few that are actually people playing are literally throwing their time away for chump change, and thinking they're making a profit, not realizing that time is a valuable resource, and they could make far more ISK via other means, and then buy far more minerals, in the same timeframe.
I was just messing around when I said that, in my opinion you shouldn't be playing the game for any benefit you make, there's no reason why say...you can have sex and still make a decent amount of Isk. But mining works just like that, just leave your ship your ship at an asteroid for long enough and the magic happens.
Seriously needs some kind of re-haul though..I don't think anybody should be rewarded for being away from their PC because that alone breeds security, which is what this game shouldn't be about, need to always be on your toes and constantly using Directional Scan. I'm just a noob though, what would I know about the inner workings on EvE. :P |
Zeo Salis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.11 07:10:00 -
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Nothing quite like kicking back on a Friday night with a cold beer, a good movie, setting up some mining in Eve while talking to your corp on Teamspeak |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
664
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Posted - 2012.05.11 07:36:00 -
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Zeo Salis wrote:Nothing quite like kicking back on a Friday night with a cold beer, a good movie, setting up some mining in Eve while talking to your corp on Teamspeak What's your favorite beer? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian Pinked
77
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:02:00 -
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Space Mitt Romney wrote:Let the mining industry fail
Where would your shiny ships come from? I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:22:00 -
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Probably because mining is about as glorious as masturbating with a cheese-grater. . |
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
35
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:24:00 -
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They aren't misunderstood, they're just killed. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
427
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:36:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then.
If you only PVP, thats all you can do; PVP, cos you of turn away for a sec, you could be popped. I see. Let me tell you a story, then.
A couple of years ago, while I was still in college, I was running the usual trifecta of empire wars. One of them was against an alliance with a member count between 200 and 300 people. We usually did one alliance war along with two corporation wars, to maximize targets and minimize costs. We tried to pool our targets in a compact area as well.
One day, I was camping outside the alliance target's HQ, with the targets in the system numbering in the upper teens, and more in the surrounding system. I had a late afternoon class that day, and reluctantly resigned myself to going. The class was great, but when I came home, I was a little tired, not having slept at all the previous night. I decided to take a quick nap.
Waking up six hours later, blurry-eyed, I sat down at my computer. The EVE Online window in the taskbar quickly caught my eye. Snapping awake, I immediately though "****, ******* **** ****." Furthermore, "****, ****, goddamnit, *****-ass ****." I didn't feel like clicking it. "Well, I guess it's just about time for the ol' rage-quit anyway."
I clicked the icon. "Yeah, escape menu. But why isn't the blurry background that of a station interior?" I hit escape. Still outside. Still in the Ishtar. Still in my clone with the high-grade Slave set in it. The number of war targets in local was three. A few seconds later, one logged off.
I closed EVE, and opened WoW. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
463
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:49:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Francisco Bizzaro wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things like washing the dishes, vaccuming the room, video calling friends, unpacking the shopping, helping your brother win Plants vs Zombies on another monitor!! Life is then so much more interesting then. Clearly. And to pay for that RL productivity only costs the occasional hulk wreck. Let's hope your extracurricular activities are satisfying enough that we don't need to see you on the forums complaining that hulks need a tank buff because you lost one while doing the dishes. Dishes and highsec mining don't mix these days, youre right.
Don't do it kids, it will screw you up. This is your brain while mining. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
136
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Posted - 2012.05.11 09:52:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:Miners let you play internet spaceships while they play...real life, what's wrong with that? Why the hate! Miners don't get to play real life as much as anyone else in EVE. Keeping your PC running and checking on it for long hours keeps you tethered to your home / apartment. Sure, you can do other things, to a point. Mining is very time consuming and thus half-playing is limiting both in game and outside it. The alternative is to bot, which is bannable. By contrast, everyone else can log in and log out as they please, experienced condensed entertainment or just chat, then hop off and hit the pub. No tether. This is why people look at miners and scoff. the few that are actually people playing are literally throwing their time away for chump change, and thinking they're making a profit, not realizing that time is a valuable resource, and they could make far more ISK via other means, and then buy far more minerals, in the same timeframe.
So youre saying miners don't log on/off when they please?? Say wut?? You can't seriously think ALL miners sit there for hours on end making pathetic isk, mining crokite or other high end mierals will make you a plex quite soon, and you dont have to sit there 23.5/7 at all.
And if players have High Pi skills in nullsec, mining is simply a bonus isk rewards, Plex is covered Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Benilopax
The Ashen Lion Syndicate The Ashen Syndicate
272
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Posted - 2012.05.11 10:02:00 -
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I have always found mining very relaxing, listening to the hum of my lasers while reading a book, watching TV, or chatting with fellow corp members.
On the big mining ops we used to have, we would tell jokes, have quizzes, and generally discuss EVE and all it's interesting happenings.
Nothing wrong with mining every now and again. |
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Francisco Bizzaro
104
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Posted - 2012.05.11 10:11:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:In fact from watching PVP guide videos it is PVPers who dont have much of a social life, what with spending HOURS looking for targets etc Im not against PVP, just saying Well, in response to the subject of this thread, thank you for clarifying miners' attitudes. Miners are no longer misunderstood.
However, I don't think our new-found understanding is accomplishing the goal of making miners any less of a target. Maybe the contrary. Just saying |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
470
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Posted - 2012.05.11 10:15:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things
We do get it, and this is precisely why they are dying by the thousands during my event.
Mine AFK, Die AFK.
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Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
103
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Posted - 2012.05.11 11:11:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back. Hulks don't shoot back, dummy.
Got you with that one
+1 I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
137
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:18:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:But guys you don't get it, mining is something you can do in Eve while doing ten other things We do get it, and this is precisely why they are dying by the thousands during my event. Mine AFK, Die AFK.
I think you mean, mine in hisec, die in hisec.............. can't beat an alpha strike whether youre afk or not. Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Starsplash
The Red Circle Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:52:00 -
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****, I love mining. I mine and play Xbox360.
Sure, I missioned during hulkaggeddon, but the limited amount of kills to salvage loot, the waste of time by going back and forth from station to mission area (wish you can turn in quests and requests quest remotly?) is just obnoxious, escpecially the first part.
However, you still have to pay attention though. Can't really mine afk or you will get killed where ever you are.
With that in mind, is hulkaggeddon done now? |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
47
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:52:00 -
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Mining is different for different people, depending on their goals.
Sometimes, someone's goal is to get in that shiny T2 ship full of shiny T2 modules. For that, they need money and mining is a means to that end.
Some people see getting isk as its own goal and mining is a way to achieve that.
I personally mine when I'm waiting for something else. If I'm waiting for my jump clone timer to count down before I do my next operation...or if I'm waiting for my kids to go to bed so I can focus without interruption, or if I'm waiting for an agent's 4 hour decline timer to run out...I'll mine.
How much or how little mining a person chooses to do is a choice on their part. I hold people who say "I would tear my eyes out if I have to mine" and "I refuse to do anything BUT mine" in equal respect.
I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |
No'mak
Viziam Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:59:00 -
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I mine because it makes a whole load of other people who don't mine insanely and illogically angry ;)
I really don't understand why it gets others so riled up, but I enjoy seeing it play out in the forums and in-game. I also don't understand why carebear miners cry so much when they get ganked... Both people need to realise this is a sandbox - therefore we do what we want.
I'm sure I'm not alone in this sentiment! |
Kale Eledar
Mining and Industrial Services The Irukandji
46
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:01:00 -
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I used to mine and totally get why people find it relaxing. However, I now do a bit of everything and have to be in a certain mood to mine, namely
masochistic and addled with dextromethorphan The Irukandji is recruiting PVP pilots! APPLY NAO. You won't regret it. See our info at : -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70811&find=unread |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
255
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:25:00 -
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Most EvE players would rather destroy things than create them. It's the nature of the game.
What I don't get is why nobody seems to see the calm serenity of mining as a relaxing thing to do. I work all day in a chaotic environment. I get home to the chaos of my family life. After I finally get the last kid down to bed, walk the dog, and review the day with my wife, it's really nice to sit down with a beer and just mine for an hour or two to unwind from all that stuff.
Doesn't anybody else do this? Mining is perfect for this sort of thing. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4213
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:28:00 -
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what i don't get is why nobody seems to see the calm serenity of suicide ganking as a relaxing thing to do "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Steel Wraith
49
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:44:00 -
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My name is Steel Wraith and I am a miner.
But I'd never mine if I meant to give Eve my full attention. In that case I would actually play Eve. Mining isk/hour is low, it's true, but mining isk/attention-hour is huge. |
FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc.
190
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:44:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:cos you of turn away for a sec, you could be popped. Now do you understand the Glory of Mining Not empty quoting. |
Holy One
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
200
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:07:00 -
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Pffft in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with guns and those who dig.
You dig. |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
47
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:15:00 -
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Holy One wrote:Pffft in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with guns and those who dig.
You dig.
At least they took out the ability for guns to dig.
Now someone has to dig, if you want any guns. :) I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |
Morgan Knight
Just Another Industrial Corp Barbarian Wine and Cheese Society
0
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:27:00 -
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Holy One wrote:Pffft in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with guns and those who dig.
You dig.
Sorry for being pedantic but if youGÇÖre gonna quite films, quote GÇÿem right.
GÇ£You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.GÇ¥
Just being picky I know. |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
141
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:57:00 -
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Ana Vyr wrote:Most EvE players would rather destroy things than create them. It's the nature of the game.
What I don't get is why nobody seems to see the calm serenity of mining as a relaxing thing to do. I work all day in a chaotic environment. I get home to the chaos of my family life. After I finally get the last kid down to bed, walk the dog, and review the day with my wife, it's really nice to sit down with a beer and just mine for an hour or two to unwind from all that stuff.
Doesn't anybody else do this? Mining is perfect for this sort of thing.
You have really nailed it man, mining is just the thing to zone out after a hard days work while enjoying the awesome Eve Space graphix and contemplating the meaning of the Universe and everything in it.
Gankers do try mining, you'll probably enjoy the relaxation of it, and you won't be so.................. angry in RL and angry in Eve.
Chill out
Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
85
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Posted - 2012.05.13 05:19:00 -
[47] - Quote
Fighting a losing battle there, Peter. People who want to hate/blow up miners will hate/blow up miners no matter what. |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
141
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Posted - 2012.05.13 05:42:00 -
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I may make a few conversions, and Eve will then be a better place for all Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
437
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:47:00 -
[49] - Quote
Almost as fun as
Bright and Fun Adventure Time
Except for the TS3 overlay. Ferox #1 |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.05.13 07:10:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back.
Not sure they mine for FUN, I think they do it for money.
About this carebear shoot back thing........... ummm yeahh |
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Pres Crendraven
19
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Posted - 2012.05.13 07:28:00 -
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Minerals are going down everywhere but jita Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
143
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Posted - 2012.05.13 07:59:00 -
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Pres Crendraven wrote:Minerals are going down everywhere but jita
Yeah I cant understand that actually, 4000 dead hulks and mineral prices dropping? Thats really something, could it be the hoarders filling the gaps Evelopedia;-á
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Pres Crendraven
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:20:00 -
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Its as if the Hulk pilots are also industrialists and there's nobody left interested in buying minerals. Meta34me
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Stirko Hek
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.13 10:33:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Ana Vyr wrote:Most EvE players would rather destroy things than create them. It's the nature of the game.
What I don't get is why nobody seems to see the calm serenity of mining as a relaxing thing to do. I work all day in a chaotic environment. I get home to the chaos of my family life. After I finally get the last kid down to bed, walk the dog, and review the day with my wife, it's really nice to sit down with a beer and just mine for an hour or two to unwind from all that stuff.
Doesn't anybody else do this? Mining is perfect for this sort of thing. You have really nailed it man, mining is just the thing to zone out after a hard days work while enjoying the awesome Eve Space graphix and contemplating the meaning of the Universe and everything in it. Gankers do try mining, you'll probably enjoy the relaxation of it, and you won't be so.................. angry in RL and angry in Eve. Chill out
I started playing EVE as a miner, got into a hulk, had an orca alt, got perfect refining skills and all that. It was great, when I was unemployed.
Then I got full time work, and found that my free time just became a heck of a lot more valuable to me and spending my time at home dragging and dropping ore from cargo to cargo was the most mind numbing thing, for such a pitiful amount of ISK.
That said, if I really want to chill and relax, I grab a book and read for a bit. And no, I really would not find it worth interrupting my reading every few minutes for chump change. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:02:00 -
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Pardon me, but exactly what is so glorious about ugly ships shooting lasers at ugly rocks for hours upon end? |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:34:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Pardon me, but exactly what is so glorious about ugly ships shooting lasers at ugly rocks for hours upon end?
Well it keeps your analytical brain working as your creative brain does other things
Sure mining as a primary activity isn't all that exciting, but mining as a "background" activity is.......fun ....in a "background fun" kinda way Evelopedia;-á
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Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:25:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Pardon me, but exactly what is so glorious about ugly ships shooting lasers at ugly rocks for hours upon end? Well it keeps your analytical brain working as your creative brain does other things Sure mining as a primary activity isn't all that exciting, but mining as a "background" activity is.......fun ....in a "background fun" kinda way
That's the only way I would ever imagine mining to be bearable to anyone that isn't insane or mentally handicapped, if your doing something else while you mine. However it defeats the whole point of playing the game. Think of it this way, people don't go buy a movie ticket and let the movie run while they do other errands. The point of a game is to actually play it, and a profession based entirely on making a few mouse clicks every 10 to 20 minutes without any real strategy to it is hardly playing the game, and quite frankly hardly fair. Even mission running, possibly the second easiest profession in EVE requires 100 times more things to deal with than mining. Even fitting is different. A mission fitting needs to be able to apply DPS and tank DPS with multiple sub categories such as cap stability depending on what else you put on your ship. A mining fit only needs mining tools, everything else is purely optional.
Mining needs a complete overhaul, it needs to be more intuitive and not mindless. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:52:00 -
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EvEa Deva wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back. Not sure they mine for FUN, I think they do it for money. About this carebear shoot back thing........... ummm yeahh
You assume all miners are RMT s. Nice stuff, uber game. |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
143
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:14:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Pardon me, but exactly what is so glorious about ugly ships shooting lasers at ugly rocks for hours upon end? Well it keeps your analytical brain working as your creative brain does other things Sure mining as a primary activity isn't all that exciting, but mining as a "background" activity is.......fun ....in a "background fun" kinda way That's the only way I would ever imagine mining to be bearable to anyone that isn't insane or mentally handicapped, if your doing something else while you mine. However it defeats the whole point of playing the game. Think of it this way, people don't go buy a movie ticket and let the movie run while they do other errands. The point of a game is to actually play it, and a profession based entirely on making a few mouse clicks every 10 to 20 minutes without any real strategy to it is hardly playing the game, and quite frankly hardly fair. Even mission running, possibly the second easiest profession in EVE requires 100 times more things to deal with than mining. Even fitting is different. A mission fitting needs to be able to apply DPS and tank DPS with multiple sub categories such as cap stability depending on what else you put on your ship. A mining fit only needs mining tools, everything else is purely optional. Mining needs a complete overhaul, it needs to be more intuitive and not mindless.
You have to cater for those who do not want to sit GLUED in front of a monitor for hours on end doing pvp/missioning; some people , like myself, simply do not have time to give undivided attention for hours to a video game. I mean I have done that in the past, and FOR ME, its one of the most unsatisfying/unproductive ways to spend your day
Evelopedia;-á
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Unit757
North Point Cannabis Legionis
2
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:21:00 -
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As someone who has mined before, Glory and Mining shouldn't be used in the same sentence, unless glory is preceded by "Lack of". Building things is necessary, but blowing them up will always be more fun. |
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Ditra Vorthran
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:39:00 -
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I'm not going to sit here and try to convince anyone that mining is fun. Fun, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
I am one of those who enjoys mining for the zen feeling. Or, if I'm in Low Sec, I enjoy it by how it grabs my attention and forces me to stay focused, since anyone can jump me at any time.
I do, however, object to the sense of entitlement that the non-harvesters have towards the harvesters.
I don't blame them for it (well, okay, maybe I do a little). For years, Eve has been a game built for the destroyers. In order to accomplish something, it was necessary to destroy. Need Zydrine? Destroy meta 0 loot. Need Nocxium? Destroy Drones. Need Technium? Destroy POSes. Need ISK? Destroy complexes.
This is the house that CCP build and harvesters had to live in. Second class citizens to the destroyers. That has generated an attitude that this is "their game." How dare we harvesters try to make a living here! We should be destroying along with everyone else! We're doing it wrong!
You think Burn Jita, OTECH and Hulkageddon occurring so quickly after the Inferno patch that gave a huge boost to harvesters is a coincidence? It is the destroyers exercising their dominance. Showing everyone that despite what happened in Inferno, they are still the 'true masters' of Eve, that the harvesters and builders are still nothing more than beggars, living at the sufferance of the destroyers.
That is the attitude I despise. Not the fact that harvesters are being destroyed. That happening, the possibility, the freedom that allows such things to happen, I welcome. It is the fact that people think we should be destroyed, that somehow we are an aberration that either needs to be changed or driven out. The attitude that says there is no place for us in New Eden, and that we should not be here, that is what is wrong. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
112
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:42:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back.
but not much more fun.... miners are little more than rocks in space themselves... suicide ganking is the lowest form of pvp (as such it's the least fun) Seriously, they can't defend themselves and the ganker knows he is going to die in the gank too. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Anatat
Conflict and Facilitation Services
0
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:47:00 -
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Well I just re-subbed, and decided to take the Hulk out for a spin. Within an hour I'm being ganked in a dead end system. So my drones and the cops killed em, whatever. I dock up and read, O, Hulka is going on.
I mean its a sandbox, so whatever, but seriously I don't understand all the stupidity directed at miners. It's part of the game, some people enjoy it, some don't . I don't rip on null sec people for wandering through gates for 2 hours trying to find a target they outnumber 4 to 1. I like missioning, sometimes. I like mining, occasionally. I like PVP, here and there. Isn't that what makes the game good? |
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