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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:26:00 -
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Today i hear some more, frankly, saddening news.
We are agian being accused of using log in traps and scouts.
I am not here to argue pettily with our forum enemies, but only to say this.
R-K NEVER EVER use login traps. If I caught any R-K member doing it (and an enemy saying he did without any proof doesnt count ffs) I would kick him out immediately.
The closest I think we ever come to a log in trap, is an agreed time of the day to log on if we were forced to log off in a system by a blob much much larger than ours. This isnt a trap, its just bloody commone sense. And normally is performed many hours after we originally logged off.
R-K safe spot and log if we are hugely outnumbered, we go mow the lawn or summin, but everyone that knows us knows that we fight outnumbered all the time, but no one is going to fight 15 vs 45 reguarly and expect to keep a good kills/death ratio.
Anyoway to the point at hand. Despite all that is said on these forums, the many arguemnts we have with our foes, we are an honourable corp, and our reputation means a lot to us (hence the NCAs almost constant attack upon it). Hence I couldnt resist just a quick plea that honesty prevails in our tactics.
We DO
Insta to a destination with enemy present from a blobbed Empire system so you don't know we coming.
We DO
Camp gates, set up traps with pilots 2 systems away, set up traps with multiple pilots in multiple systems close by.
WE DO NOT perform lame ass Log in traps using msn or teamspeak etc.
Thanks for listening. Flame away the normal guys.
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |
KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:26:00 -
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Today i hear some more, frankly, saddening news.
We are agian being accused of using log in traps and scouts.
I am not here to argue pettily with our forum enemies, but only to say this.
R-K NEVER EVER use login traps. If I caught any R-K member doing it (and an enemy saying he did without any proof doesnt count ffs) I would kick him out immediately.
The closest I think we ever come to a log in trap, is an agreed time of the day to log on if we were forced to log off in a system by a blob much much larger than ours. This isnt a trap, its just bloody commone sense. And normally is performed many hours after we originally logged off.
R-K safe spot and log if we are hugely outnumbered, we go mow the lawn or summin, but everyone that knows us knows that we fight outnumbered all the time, but no one is going to fight 15 vs 45 reguarly and expect to keep a good kills/death ratio.
Anyoway to the point at hand. Despite all that is said on these forums, the many arguemnts we have with our foes, we are an honourable corp, and our reputation means a lot to us (hence the NCAs almost constant attack upon it). Hence I couldnt resist just a quick plea that honesty prevails in our tactics.
We DO
Insta to a destination with enemy present from a blobbed Empire system so you don't know we coming.
We DO
Camp gates, set up traps with pilots 2 systems away, set up traps with multiple pilots in multiple systems close by.
WE DO NOT perform lame ass Log in traps using msn or teamspeak etc.
Thanks for listening. Flame away the normal guys.
xx
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:29:00 -
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feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:29:00 -
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feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:42:00 -
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I agree with Robo-Sutty,
Straight up, all we seen of R-K in this war is them heading in the opposite direction coz we normally roll with larger amounts of ships than they do. Only twice have I seen them head towards us and that was when the PA already had 2 times our number (50+ ships) already in the system.
That's the game they pay to play and that's cool.
I dunno who called you out on being log on, gankers but your alliance compadres of CE and Bladerunners however, have no such qualms about doing log on traps. You prolly just got lumped in with them as one of the PA's main PVP forces.
You are judged by those you ally with in this game.
Can't do anything about that unfortunately.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:42:00 -
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I agree with Robo-Sutty,
Straight up, all we seen of R-K in this war is them heading in the opposite direction coz we normally roll with larger amounts of ships than they do. Only twice have I seen them head towards us and that was when the PA already had 2 times our number (50+ ships) already in the system.
That's the game they pay to play and that's cool.
I dunno who called you out on being log on, gankers but your alliance compadres of CE and Bladerunners however, have no such qualms about doing log on traps. You prolly just got lumped in with them as one of the PA's main PVP forces.
You are judged by those you ally with in this game.
Can't do anything about that unfortunately.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:49:00 -
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for obvious reasons we can not reveal our sources on this one but it greatly saddens me to see us get this reputation. While we were in COD and FU space they constantly accused us of using log in traps to kill them when like Eddz says we layed a trap with a couple of tanked ships and had the rest of the fleet ready to scramble if the bait was taken which it was nearly every time We have been accused of pretty much every lame exploit by the people who we fight and i often find that the people making these accusations have very little clue about game mechanics such as the map lagging.
Having said that it is now going to be even more enjoyable slapping these people around now we have this info
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:49:00 -
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for obvious reasons we can not reveal our sources on this one but it greatly saddens me to see us get this reputation. While we were in COD and FU space they constantly accused us of using log in traps to kill them when like Eddz says we layed a trap with a couple of tanked ships and had the rest of the fleet ready to scramble if the bait was taken which it was nearly every time We have been accused of pretty much every lame exploit by the people who we fight and i often find that the people making these accusations have very little clue about game mechanics such as the map lagging.
Having said that it is now going to be even more enjoyable slapping these people around now we have this info
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. * -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |
SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. * -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher I agree with Robo-Sutty,
Straight up, all we seen of R-K in this war is them heading in the opposite direction coz we normally roll with larger amounts of ships than they do. Only twice have I seen them head towards us and that was when the PA already had 2 times our number (50+ ships) already in the system.
That's the game they pay to play and that's cool.
I dunno who called you out on being log on, gankers but your alliance compadres of CE and Bladerunners however, have no such qualms about doing log on traps. You prolly just got lumped in with them as one of the PA's main PVP forces.
You are judged by those you ally with in this game.
Can't do anything about that unfortunately.
dbp
you are wrong and you know it
log on, organize and attack is standard. (took us 15min in our last 21vs35)
I cant believe your spending time with m0o/evol on ts..tsses do they keep you a seperate room when they start playing EVE?
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher I agree with Robo-Sutty,
Straight up, all we seen of R-K in this war is them heading in the opposite direction coz we normally roll with larger amounts of ships than they do. Only twice have I seen them head towards us and that was when the PA already had 2 times our number (50+ ships) already in the system.
That's the game they pay to play and that's cool.
I dunno who called you out on being log on, gankers but your alliance compadres of CE and Bladerunners however, have no such qualms about doing log on traps. You prolly just got lumped in with them as one of the PA's main PVP forces.
You are judged by those you ally with in this game.
Can't do anything about that unfortunately.
dbp
you are wrong and you know it
log on, organize and attack is standard. (took us 15min in our last 21vs35)
I cant believe your spending time with m0o/evol on ts..tsses do they keep you a seperate room when they start playing EVE?
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:19:00 -
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Wherever you go, whatever you do to the people you fight, they will always tell you that you use Login Traps, exploits, hacking, dos'ing.
If you want to hear a lot of it, go to Cache.
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:19:00 -
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Wherever you go, whatever you do to the people you fight, they will always tell you that you use Login Traps, exploits, hacking, dos'ing.
If you want to hear a lot of it, go to Cache.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: SlightlyMad
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around.
translation: PA doesnt do it but the ones who do learned about it from evolution.
Yes, and we also taught them "lame nodes," we turn off CA's modules, and we also "blob" you with a massive fleet of 9 whole ships. If you cant beat us we must be cheating.
You are a lame post, sir.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: SlightlyMad
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around.
translation: PA doesnt do it but the ones who do learned about it from evolution.
Yes, and we also taught them "lame nodes," we turn off CA's modules, and we also "blob" you with a massive fleet of 9 whole ships. If you cant beat us we must be cheating.
You are a lame post, sir.
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:41:00 -
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LMAO ;)
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:41:00 -
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LMAO ;)
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:44:00 -
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I think what has started this is basically R-K logs for a bit while SS and the fleet X pilot or pilots has been in disperses and for some reason said pilot(s) are still lingering around when you log back on. He gets ganked, then is angry aand scream log on tactic. Simply put he stuck around and got ganked and its his damn fault that he got ganked cuz he didn't pack his sh*t in and leave. Heck its happened to me ALOT fighting R-K but unlike these guys I know what went wrong and it was underestimating R-K. Tho for a bit the tactics R-K were sh*tty simply cuz when they used to warp their gank squads in to fight it would grey screen me,lag me to ungodly proportions or kill the node (these were the days when node deaths were frequent after the last massive balancing patch). But don't get me wrong just cuz you don't use log on tactics doesn't me I think your big bad brave warriors. Has Trip remembered to put fofs in his scorp yet?
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:44:00 -
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I think what has started this is basically R-K logs for a bit while SS and the fleet X pilot or pilots has been in disperses and for some reason said pilot(s) are still lingering around when you log back on. He gets ganked, then is angry aand scream log on tactic. Simply put he stuck around and got ganked and its his damn fault that he got ganked cuz he didn't pack his sh*t in and leave. Heck its happened to me ALOT fighting R-K but unlike these guys I know what went wrong and it was underestimating R-K. Tho for a bit the tactics R-K were sh*tty simply cuz when they used to warp their gank squads in to fight it would grey screen me,lag me to ungodly proportions or kill the node (these were the days when node deaths were frequent after the last massive balancing patch). But don't get me wrong just cuz you don't use log on tactics doesn't me I think your big bad brave warriors. Has Trip remembered to put fofs in his scorp yet?
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard I think what has started this is basically R-K logs for a bit while SS and the fleet X pilot or pilots has been in disperses and for some reason said pilot(s) are still lingering around when you log back on. He gets ganked, then is angry aand scream log on tactic. Simply put he stuck around and got ganked and its his damn fault that he got ganked cuz he didn't pack his sh*t in and leave. Heck its happened to me ALOT fighting R-K but unlike these guys I know what went wrong and it was underestimating R-K. Tho for a bit the tactics R-K were sh*tty simply cuz when they used to warp their gank squads in to fight it would grey screen me,lag me to ungodly proportions or kill the node (these were the days when node deaths were frequent after the last massive balancing patch). But don't get me wrong just cuz you don't use log on tactics doesn't me I think your big bad brave warriors. Has Trip remembered to put fofs in his scorp yet?
Sorry for warping in to a fight next time we fight you we will get out and push might cut down the lag a bit
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard I think what has started this is basically R-K logs for a bit while SS and the fleet X pilot or pilots has been in disperses and for some reason said pilot(s) are still lingering around when you log back on. He gets ganked, then is angry aand scream log on tactic. Simply put he stuck around and got ganked and its his damn fault that he got ganked cuz he didn't pack his sh*t in and leave. Heck its happened to me ALOT fighting R-K but unlike these guys I know what went wrong and it was underestimating R-K. Tho for a bit the tactics R-K were sh*tty simply cuz when they used to warp their gank squads in to fight it would grey screen me,lag me to ungodly proportions or kill the node (these were the days when node deaths were frequent after the last massive balancing patch). But don't get me wrong just cuz you don't use log on tactics doesn't me I think your big bad brave warriors. Has Trip remembered to put fofs in his scorp yet?
Sorry for warping in to a fight next time we fight you we will get out and push might cut down the lag a bit
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:58:00 -
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Dude its just im saying it frustrated me to no end.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:58:00 -
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Dude its just im saying it frustrated me to no end.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Outlander
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:32:00 -
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Warning, Moderately Off Topic:
I can't wait for the days of persistent ships; ships that remain in space at one of the 1 million KM safespots after someone has logged off. The constant mud-slinging about who is hiding in safespots, using login-tactics, etc will be voided out quite nicely considering it will be impossible. All it will take is the autoscanner, a fast ship, time, and a bit of patience to blast anyone no matter where they try to hide in open space.
Ok, my rant is done. Thanks for listening.
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Outlander
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:32:00 -
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Warning, Moderately Off Topic:
I can't wait for the days of persistent ships; ships that remain in space at one of the 1 million KM safespots after someone has logged off. The constant mud-slinging about who is hiding in safespots, using login-tactics, etc will be voided out quite nicely considering it will be impossible. All it will take is the autoscanner, a fast ship, time, and a bit of patience to blast anyone no matter where they try to hide in open space.
Ok, my rant is done. Thanks for listening.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:00:00 -
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Quote: We are agian being accused of using log in traps and scouts.
I can understand someone accuses you of login traps but why would anyone accuse you of using scouts?
That's like saying, "Ha! You show common sense, fool!".
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:00:00 -
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Quote: We are agian being accused of using log in traps and scouts.
I can understand someone accuses you of login traps but why would anyone accuse you of using scouts?
That's like saying, "Ha! You show common sense, fool!".
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story
Raven or someone should prolly have come out a long time explaining why we did that trap on evol ages ago. Well, I'll explain it: We wanted it classified as an exploit, and succeeded by being open about it, getting enough discussion about it, etc. so CCP could no longer ignore the issue anymore. We did it against corp who has done it in the past. We never did it before that time, and not again while I was in blades.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story
Raven or someone should prolly have come out a long time explaining why we did that trap on evol ages ago. Well, I'll explain it: We wanted it classified as an exploit, and succeeded by being open about it, getting enough discussion about it, etc. so CCP could no longer ignore the issue anymore. We did it against corp who has done it in the past. We never did it before that time, and not again while I was in blades.
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