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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:26:00 -
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Today i hear some more, frankly, saddening news.
We are agian being accused of using log in traps and scouts.
I am not here to argue pettily with our forum enemies, but only to say this.
R-K NEVER EVER use login traps. If I caught any R-K member doing it (and an enemy saying he did without any proof doesnt count ffs) I would kick him out immediately.
The closest I think we ever come to a log in trap, is an agreed time of the day to log on if we were forced to log off in a system by a blob much much larger than ours. This isnt a trap, its just bloody commone sense. And normally is performed many hours after we originally logged off.
R-K safe spot and log if we are hugely outnumbered, we go mow the lawn or summin, but everyone that knows us knows that we fight outnumbered all the time, but no one is going to fight 15 vs 45 reguarly and expect to keep a good kills/death ratio.
Anyoway to the point at hand. Despite all that is said on these forums, the many arguemnts we have with our foes, we are an honourable corp, and our reputation means a lot to us (hence the NCAs almost constant attack upon it). Hence I couldnt resist just a quick plea that honesty prevails in our tactics.
We DO
Insta to a destination with enemy present from a blobbed Empire system so you don't know we coming.
We DO
Camp gates, set up traps with pilots 2 systems away, set up traps with multiple pilots in multiple systems close by.
WE DO NOT perform lame ass Log in traps using msn or teamspeak etc.
Thanks for listening. Flame away the normal guys.
xx
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |

KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:26:00 -
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Today i hear some more, frankly, saddening news.
We are agian being accused of using log in traps and scouts.
I am not here to argue pettily with our forum enemies, but only to say this.
R-K NEVER EVER use login traps. If I caught any R-K member doing it (and an enemy saying he did without any proof doesnt count ffs) I would kick him out immediately.
The closest I think we ever come to a log in trap, is an agreed time of the day to log on if we were forced to log off in a system by a blob much much larger than ours. This isnt a trap, its just bloody commone sense. And normally is performed many hours after we originally logged off.
R-K safe spot and log if we are hugely outnumbered, we go mow the lawn or summin, but everyone that knows us knows that we fight outnumbered all the time, but no one is going to fight 15 vs 45 reguarly and expect to keep a good kills/death ratio.
Anyoway to the point at hand. Despite all that is said on these forums, the many arguemnts we have with our foes, we are an honourable corp, and our reputation means a lot to us (hence the NCAs almost constant attack upon it). Hence I couldnt resist just a quick plea that honesty prevails in our tactics.
We DO
Insta to a destination with enemy present from a blobbed Empire system so you don't know we coming.
We DO
Camp gates, set up traps with pilots 2 systems away, set up traps with multiple pilots in multiple systems close by.
WE DO NOT perform lame ass Log in traps using msn or teamspeak etc.
Thanks for listening. Flame away the normal guys.
xx
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |

sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:29:00 -
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feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:29:00 -
[4]
feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:42:00 -
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I agree with Robo-Sutty,
Straight up, all we seen of R-K in this war is them heading in the opposite direction coz we normally roll with larger amounts of ships than they do. Only twice have I seen them head towards us and that was when the PA already had 2 times our number (50+ ships) already in the system.
That's the game they pay to play and that's cool.
I dunno who called you out on being log on, gankers but your alliance compadres of CE and Bladerunners however, have no such qualms about doing log on traps. You prolly just got lumped in with them as one of the PA's main PVP forces.
You are judged by those you ally with in this game.
Can't do anything about that unfortunately.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:42:00 -
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I agree with Robo-Sutty,
Straight up, all we seen of R-K in this war is them heading in the opposite direction coz we normally roll with larger amounts of ships than they do. Only twice have I seen them head towards us and that was when the PA already had 2 times our number (50+ ships) already in the system.
That's the game they pay to play and that's cool.
I dunno who called you out on being log on, gankers but your alliance compadres of CE and Bladerunners however, have no such qualms about doing log on traps. You prolly just got lumped in with them as one of the PA's main PVP forces.
You are judged by those you ally with in this game.
Can't do anything about that unfortunately.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:49:00 -
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for obvious reasons we can not reveal our sources on this one but it greatly saddens me to see us get this reputation. While we were in COD and FU space they constantly accused us of using log in traps to kill them when like Eddz says we layed a trap with a couple of tanked ships and had the rest of the fleet ready to scramble if the bait was taken which it was nearly every time We have been accused of pretty much every lame exploit by the people who we fight and i often find that the people making these accusations have very little clue about game mechanics such as the map lagging.
Having said that it is now going to be even more enjoyable slapping these people around now we have this info
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:49:00 -
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for obvious reasons we can not reveal our sources on this one but it greatly saddens me to see us get this reputation. While we were in COD and FU space they constantly accused us of using log in traps to kill them when like Eddz says we layed a trap with a couple of tanked ships and had the rest of the fleet ready to scramble if the bait was taken which it was nearly every time We have been accused of pretty much every lame exploit by the people who we fight and i often find that the people making these accusations have very little clue about game mechanics such as the map lagging.
Having said that it is now going to be even more enjoyable slapping these people around now we have this info
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around.  * -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |

SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.09.07 14:51:00 -
[10]
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around.  * -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |

Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:02:00 -
[11]
Originally by: DB Preacher I agree with Robo-Sutty,
Straight up, all we seen of R-K in this war is them heading in the opposite direction coz we normally roll with larger amounts of ships than they do. Only twice have I seen them head towards us and that was when the PA already had 2 times our number (50+ ships) already in the system.
That's the game they pay to play and that's cool.
I dunno who called you out on being log on, gankers but your alliance compadres of CE and Bladerunners however, have no such qualms about doing log on traps. You prolly just got lumped in with them as one of the PA's main PVP forces.
You are judged by those you ally with in this game.
Can't do anything about that unfortunately.
dbp
you are wrong and you know it 
log on, organize and attack is standard. (took us 15min in our last 21vs35)
I cant believe your spending time with m0o/evol on ts..tsses do they keep you a seperate room when they start playing EVE?

- g |

Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher I agree with Robo-Sutty,
Straight up, all we seen of R-K in this war is them heading in the opposite direction coz we normally roll with larger amounts of ships than they do. Only twice have I seen them head towards us and that was when the PA already had 2 times our number (50+ ships) already in the system.
That's the game they pay to play and that's cool.
I dunno who called you out on being log on, gankers but your alliance compadres of CE and Bladerunners however, have no such qualms about doing log on traps. You prolly just got lumped in with them as one of the PA's main PVP forces.
You are judged by those you ally with in this game.
Can't do anything about that unfortunately.
dbp
you are wrong and you know it 
log on, organize and attack is standard. (took us 15min in our last 21vs35)
I cant believe your spending time with m0o/evol on ts..tsses do they keep you a seperate room when they start playing EVE?

- g |

Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:19:00 -
[13]
Wherever you go, whatever you do to the people you fight, they will always tell you that you use Login Traps, exploits, hacking, dos'ing.
If you want to hear a lot of it, go to Cache.
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:19:00 -
[14]
Wherever you go, whatever you do to the people you fight, they will always tell you that you use Login Traps, exploits, hacking, dos'ing.
If you want to hear a lot of it, go to Cache.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:34:00 -
[15]
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
translation: PA doesnt do it but the ones who do learned about it from evolution.
Yes, and we also taught them "lame nodes," we turn off CA's modules, and we also "blob" you with a massive fleet of 9 whole ships. If you cant beat us we must be cheating.
You are a lame post, sir.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:34:00 -
[16]
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
translation: PA doesnt do it but the ones who do learned about it from evolution.
Yes, and we also taught them "lame nodes," we turn off CA's modules, and we also "blob" you with a massive fleet of 9 whole ships. If you cant beat us we must be cheating.
You are a lame post, sir.
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:41:00 -
[17]
LMAO ;)
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:41:00 -
[18]
LMAO ;)
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:44:00 -
[19]
I think what has started this is basically R-K logs for a bit while SS and the fleet X pilot or pilots has been in disperses and for some reason said pilot(s) are still lingering around when you log back on. He gets ganked, then is angry aand scream log on tactic. Simply put he stuck around and got ganked and its his damn fault that he got ganked cuz he didn't pack his sh*t in and leave. Heck its happened to me ALOT fighting R-K but unlike these guys I know what went wrong and it was underestimating R-K. Tho for a bit the tactics R-K were sh*tty simply cuz when they used to warp their gank squads in to fight it would grey screen me,lag me to ungodly proportions or kill the node (these were the days when node deaths were frequent after the last massive balancing patch). But don't get me wrong just cuz you don't use log on tactics doesn't me I think your big bad brave warriors. Has Trip remembered to put fofs in his scorp yet?
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:44:00 -
[20]
I think what has started this is basically R-K logs for a bit while SS and the fleet X pilot or pilots has been in disperses and for some reason said pilot(s) are still lingering around when you log back on. He gets ganked, then is angry aand scream log on tactic. Simply put he stuck around and got ganked and its his damn fault that he got ganked cuz he didn't pack his sh*t in and leave. Heck its happened to me ALOT fighting R-K but unlike these guys I know what went wrong and it was underestimating R-K. Tho for a bit the tactics R-K were sh*tty simply cuz when they used to warp their gank squads in to fight it would grey screen me,lag me to ungodly proportions or kill the node (these were the days when node deaths were frequent after the last massive balancing patch). But don't get me wrong just cuz you don't use log on tactics doesn't me I think your big bad brave warriors. Has Trip remembered to put fofs in his scorp yet?
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:53:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Lucian Alucard I think what has started this is basically R-K logs for a bit while SS and the fleet X pilot or pilots has been in disperses and for some reason said pilot(s) are still lingering around when you log back on. He gets ganked, then is angry aand scream log on tactic. Simply put he stuck around and got ganked and its his damn fault that he got ganked cuz he didn't pack his sh*t in and leave. Heck its happened to me ALOT fighting R-K but unlike these guys I know what went wrong and it was underestimating R-K. Tho for a bit the tactics R-K were sh*tty simply cuz when they used to warp their gank squads in to fight it would grey screen me,lag me to ungodly proportions or kill the node (these were the days when node deaths were frequent after the last massive balancing patch). But don't get me wrong just cuz you don't use log on tactics doesn't me I think your big bad brave warriors. Has Trip remembered to put fofs in his scorp yet?
Sorry for warping in to a fight next time we fight you we will get out and push might cut down the lag a bit
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:53:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Lucian Alucard I think what has started this is basically R-K logs for a bit while SS and the fleet X pilot or pilots has been in disperses and for some reason said pilot(s) are still lingering around when you log back on. He gets ganked, then is angry aand scream log on tactic. Simply put he stuck around and got ganked and its his damn fault that he got ganked cuz he didn't pack his sh*t in and leave. Heck its happened to me ALOT fighting R-K but unlike these guys I know what went wrong and it was underestimating R-K. Tho for a bit the tactics R-K were sh*tty simply cuz when they used to warp their gank squads in to fight it would grey screen me,lag me to ungodly proportions or kill the node (these were the days when node deaths were frequent after the last massive balancing patch). But don't get me wrong just cuz you don't use log on tactics doesn't me I think your big bad brave warriors. Has Trip remembered to put fofs in his scorp yet?
Sorry for warping in to a fight next time we fight you we will get out and push might cut down the lag a bit
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:58:00 -
[23]
Dude its just im saying it frustrated me to no end.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:58:00 -
[24]
Dude its just im saying it frustrated me to no end.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Outlander
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:32:00 -
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Warning, Moderately Off Topic:
I can't wait for the days of persistent ships; ships that remain in space at one of the 1 million KM safespots after someone has logged off. The constant mud-slinging about who is hiding in safespots, using login-tactics, etc will be voided out quite nicely considering it will be impossible. All it will take is the autoscanner, a fast ship, time, and a bit of patience to blast anyone no matter where they try to hide in open space. 
Ok, my rant is done. Thanks for listening. 
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Outlander
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Posted - 2004.09.07 16:32:00 -
[26]
Warning, Moderately Off Topic:
I can't wait for the days of persistent ships; ships that remain in space at one of the 1 million KM safespots after someone has logged off. The constant mud-slinging about who is hiding in safespots, using login-tactics, etc will be voided out quite nicely considering it will be impossible. All it will take is the autoscanner, a fast ship, time, and a bit of patience to blast anyone no matter where they try to hide in open space. 
Ok, my rant is done. Thanks for listening. 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:00:00 -
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Quote: We are agian being accused of using log in traps and scouts.
I can understand someone accuses you of login traps but why would anyone accuse you of using scouts?
That's like saying, "Ha! You show common sense, fool!".

LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:00:00 -
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Quote: We are agian being accused of using log in traps and scouts.
I can understand someone accuses you of login traps but why would anyone accuse you of using scouts?
That's like saying, "Ha! You show common sense, fool!".

LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Raven or someone should prolly have come out a long time explaining why we did that trap on evol ages ago. Well, I'll explain it: We wanted it classified as an exploit, and succeeded by being open about it, getting enough discussion about it, etc. so CCP could no longer ignore the issue anymore. We did it against corp who has done it in the past. We never did it before that time, and not again while I was in blades.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:00:00 -
[30]
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Raven or someone should prolly have come out a long time explaining why we did that trap on evol ages ago. Well, I'll explain it: We wanted it classified as an exploit, and succeeded by being open about it, getting enough discussion about it, etc. so CCP could no longer ignore the issue anymore. We did it against corp who has done it in the past. We never did it before that time, and not again while I was in blades.
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Faramir
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:25:00 -
[31]
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
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Faramir
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Posted - 2004.09.07 17:25:00 -
[32]
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
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Karien
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Posted - 2004.09.07 18:20:00 -
[33]
someone pleas tell me what the problem with a login trap is? yeah its not exactly honorable and i don't use them but a good login trap would be hard to coordinate as well as pull off. it is also no longer considered an exploit so i don't see the problem. besides... if you see local jump dramaticly, you should get the fk out or to safe spot is the intelligent thing to do otherwise, u are asking for it. ----------------------------------------------
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Karien
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Posted - 2004.09.07 18:20:00 -
[34]
someone pleas tell me what the problem with a login trap is? yeah its not exactly honorable and i don't use them but a good login trap would be hard to coordinate as well as pull off. it is also no longer considered an exploit so i don't see the problem. besides... if you see local jump dramaticly, you should get the fk out or to safe spot is the intelligent thing to do otherwise, u are asking for it. ----------------------------------------------
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:13:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Stained on 07/09/2004 19:17:25
Your Kidding right Karien?
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:13:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Stained on 07/09/2004 19:17:25
Your Kidding right Karien?
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:27:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Presidio on 07/09/2004 19:34:45
Originally by: Faramir
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
Evol never used log on traps! Is this a joke? This is the only way Evol fights. We can prove it over an over again. You really want me to fraps all your logins prior to a fight? That's cool though we don't whine about it. You use spies we don't whine about that eighter. Whatever you have to do to get the advantage in a fight it's cool, because you obvously suck at fighting. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:27:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Presidio on 07/09/2004 19:34:45
Originally by: Faramir
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
Evol never used log on traps! Is this a joke? This is the only way Evol fights. We can prove it over an over again. You really want me to fraps all your logins prior to a fight? That's cool though we don't whine about it. You use spies we don't whine about that eighter. Whatever you have to do to get the advantage in a fight it's cool, because you obvously suck at fighting. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Reassor
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:27:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Arkaine
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
translation: PA doesnt do it but the ones who do learned about it from evolution.
Yes, and we also taught them "lame nodes," we turn off CA's modules, and we also "blob" you with a massive fleet of 9 whole ships. If you cant beat us we must be cheating.
You are a lame post, sir.
lol ... this is a guide for u ... go to sickbay , activate EMH and ask him for dose of neurosine :P
and now seriously .. translation : PA and CA sux (but PA more) and EVOLS are masters of universe ....
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Reassor
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:27:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Arkaine
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
translation: PA doesnt do it but the ones who do learned about it from evolution.
Yes, and we also taught them "lame nodes," we turn off CA's modules, and we also "blob" you with a massive fleet of 9 whole ships. If you cant beat us we must be cheating.
You are a lame post, sir.
lol ... this is a guide for u ... go to sickbay , activate EMH and ask him for dose of neurosine :P
and now seriously .. translation : PA and CA sux (but PA more) and EVOLS are masters of universe ....
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Reassor
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:32:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Faramir
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
let meh explain .... blades get warning coz U ware complaining to GM's EVOLS didnt get any coz PA was not complaining to GM's
see teh diffirence?
well and tbh im quite used to login traps ... especialy in bkg when evols was trying to maitain like 5-10% less forces than pa to make us atack and if we did that local rised by 10-15 ppl (no blobs around , no movement on map) but like i said im used to it now ... but teh lowest thing i saw yesterday ... was surendering in local by some SOL guys and then gank our ships when they warped in W/O hostile intentions ... thats lame as crap of a monkey Yoda googgoo 
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Reassor
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:32:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Faramir
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
let meh explain .... blades get warning coz U ware complaining to GM's EVOLS didnt get any coz PA was not complaining to GM's
see teh diffirence?
well and tbh im quite used to login traps ... especialy in bkg when evols was trying to maitain like 5-10% less forces than pa to make us atack and if we did that local rised by 10-15 ppl (no blobs around , no movement on map) but like i said im used to it now ... but teh lowest thing i saw yesterday ... was surendering in local by some SOL guys and then gank our ships when they warped in W/O hostile intentions ... thats lame as crap of a monkey Yoda googgoo 
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:39:00 -
[43]
Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:39:00 -
[44]
Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Zeus
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:56:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
Still awol from Venal? 
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Zeus
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Posted - 2004.09.07 19:56:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
Still awol from Venal? 
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:11:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
I can honestly say, and expect everyone but Presidio to believe me while I do so, that in my presence Evolution has not used any tactics like described or implied above. Nor do I believe for one moment that Evolution is the corporation that has introduced this tactic in the past or has felt any need to use it on PA.
I'm not defending myself nor Evolution against Presidio here, he is clearly not worthy of such efforts.
What I would find distrubing is when anyone would believe someone with a history of posting crap like Presidio's. So just to be clear about this I make this post.
Evolution does not need ANY lame tactics to defeat PA, and that's all there is to this.
_______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:11:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
I can honestly say, and expect everyone but Presidio to believe me while I do so, that in my presence Evolution has not used any tactics like described or implied above. Nor do I believe for one moment that Evolution is the corporation that has introduced this tactic in the past or has felt any need to use it on PA.
I'm not defending myself nor Evolution against Presidio here, he is clearly not worthy of such efforts.
What I would find distrubing is when anyone would believe someone with a history of posting crap like Presidio's. So just to be clear about this I make this post.
Evolution does not need ANY lame tactics to defeat PA, and that's all there is to this.
_______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Icomeinpeace
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:13:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
So I guess we beter watch out.Pa is gona come back at us using lame nodes.
Oh and pres, keep trying to find a reason for what you did to Jakal if it makes you feel beter, we all know your the lamer.
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Icomeinpeace
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:13:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
So I guess we beter watch out.Pa is gona come back at us using lame nodes.
Oh and pres, keep trying to find a reason for what you did to Jakal if it makes you feel beter, we all know your the lamer.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:44:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Presidio on 07/09/2004 20:50:08
Originally by: Zeus
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
Still awol from Venal? 
Ask for Dynaglide's [evol] deathmail in BKG maybe 2 nights ago?
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:44:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Presidio on 07/09/2004 20:50:08
Originally by: Zeus
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
Still awol from Venal? 
Ask for Dynaglide's [evol] deathmail in BKG maybe 2 nights ago?
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:52:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
I can honestly say, and expect everyone but Presidio to believe me while I do so, that in my presence Evolution has not used any tactics like described or implied above. Nor do I believe for one moment that Evolution is the corporation that has introduced this tactic in the past or has felt any need to use it on PA.
I'm not defending myself nor Evolution against Presidio here, he is clearly not worthy of such efforts.
What I would find distrubing is when anyone would believe someone with a history of posting crap like Presidio's. So just to be clear about this I make this post.
Evolution does not need ANY lame tactics to defeat PA, and that's all there is to this.
How long have you been a member of Evolution? ... that's right.. STFU then. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:52:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
I can honestly say, and expect everyone but Presidio to believe me while I do so, that in my presence Evolution has not used any tactics like described or implied above. Nor do I believe for one moment that Evolution is the corporation that has introduced this tactic in the past or has felt any need to use it on PA.
I'm not defending myself nor Evolution against Presidio here, he is clearly not worthy of such efforts.
What I would find distrubing is when anyone would believe someone with a history of posting crap like Presidio's. So just to be clear about this I make this post.
Evolution does not need ANY lame tactics to defeat PA, and that's all there is to this.
How long have you been a member of Evolution? ... that's right.. STFU then. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:54:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Icomeinpeace
Oh and pres, keep trying to find a reason for what you did to Jakal if it makes you feel beter, we all know your the lamer.
Read that 8 month old post again. I stated my reason for it back than, and it hasn't changed since. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 20:54:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Icomeinpeace
Oh and pres, keep trying to find a reason for what you did to Jakal if it makes you feel beter, we all know your the lamer.
Read that 8 month old post again. I stated my reason for it back than, and it hasn't changed since. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:36:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Rod Blaine
I can honestly say, and expect everyone but Presidio to believe me while I do so, that in my presence Evolution has not used any tactics like described or implied above. Nor do I believe for one moment that Evolution is the corporation that has introduced this tactic in the past or has felt any need to use it on PA.
I'm not defending myself nor Evolution against Presidio here, he is clearly not worthy of such efforts.
What I would find distrubing is when anyone would believe someone with a history of posting crap like Presidio's. So just to be clear about this I make this post.
Evolution does not need ANY lame tactics to defeat PA, and that's all there is to this.
How long have you been a member of Evolution? ... that's right.. STFU then.
First time I met (and shot at) Evol was before castor.
I've never put much faith in the stories of those that lose. Just get over it, I know I did. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:36:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Rod Blaine
I can honestly say, and expect everyone but Presidio to believe me while I do so, that in my presence Evolution has not used any tactics like described or implied above. Nor do I believe for one moment that Evolution is the corporation that has introduced this tactic in the past or has felt any need to use it on PA.
I'm not defending myself nor Evolution against Presidio here, he is clearly not worthy of such efforts.
What I would find distrubing is when anyone would believe someone with a history of posting crap like Presidio's. So just to be clear about this I make this post.
Evolution does not need ANY lame tactics to defeat PA, and that's all there is to this.
How long have you been a member of Evolution? ... that's right.. STFU then.
First time I met (and shot at) Evol was before castor.
I've never put much faith in the stories of those that lose. Just get over it, I know I did. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:45:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Rod Blaine
I can honestly say, and expect everyone but Presidio to believe me while I do so, that in my presence Evolution has not used any tactics like described or implied above. Nor do I believe for one moment that Evolution is the corporation that has introduced this tactic in the past or has felt any need to use it on PA.
I'm not defending myself nor Evolution against Presidio here, he is clearly not worthy of such efforts.
What I would find distrubing is when anyone would believe someone with a history of posting crap like Presidio's. So just to be clear about this I make this post.
Evolution does not need ANY lame tactics to defeat PA, and that's all there is to this.
How long have you been a member of Evolution? ... that's right.. STFU then.
First time I met (and shot at) Evol was before castor.
I've never put much faith in the stories of those that lose. Just get over it, I know I did.
Ok so you were not in Evol when the mentioned events happened. Yet you pretend like you were there. This makes you just another Evol n00b forum throll.
Ok thanks, bye. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:45:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Rod Blaine
I can honestly say, and expect everyone but Presidio to believe me while I do so, that in my presence Evolution has not used any tactics like described or implied above. Nor do I believe for one moment that Evolution is the corporation that has introduced this tactic in the past or has felt any need to use it on PA.
I'm not defending myself nor Evolution against Presidio here, he is clearly not worthy of such efforts.
What I would find distrubing is when anyone would believe someone with a history of posting crap like Presidio's. So just to be clear about this I make this post.
Evolution does not need ANY lame tactics to defeat PA, and that's all there is to this.
How long have you been a member of Evolution? ... that's right.. STFU then.
First time I met (and shot at) Evol was before castor.
I've never put much faith in the stories of those that lose. Just get over it, I know I did.
Ok so you were not in Evol when the mentioned events happened. Yet you pretend like you were there. This makes you just another Evol n00b forum throll.
Ok thanks, bye. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:53:00 -
[61]
Presidio, I'm going to stop stooping down to your level now and discuss this with you. I hoped to avoid doing that since it involves stupid discussions I'd rather not have.
Where it comes down to is this. Either people (who can all see my corp history themselves thank you) think higher of my opinion about how Evolution operates, or they take your opinion of how it operates as true. Frankly, the only thing I care about is seeing them informed well rather then hearing only the story of someone like you.
I think anyone that has spoken to me ingame or think he has an idea of how I thik from my posts here knows enough. So let's keep it at that like I intended in the first place. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.07 21:53:00 -
[62]
Presidio, I'm going to stop stooping down to your level now and discuss this with you. I hoped to avoid doing that since it involves stupid discussions I'd rather not have.
Where it comes down to is this. Either people (who can all see my corp history themselves thank you) think higher of my opinion about how Evolution operates, or they take your opinion of how it operates as true. Frankly, the only thing I care about is seeing them informed well rather then hearing only the story of someone like you.
I think anyone that has spoken to me ingame or think he has an idea of how I thik from my posts here knows enough. So let's keep it at that like I intended in the first place. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:09:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
I think anyone that has spoken to me ingame or think he has an idea of how I thik from my posts here knows enough. So let's keep it at that like I intended in the first place.
Just an idea. Maybe you should keep your posts private to people who would beleive them? We really don't need yet another person talking about something they know nothing about on this forums don't you think? Your comments about logon traps are nothing but a product of fiction or should I say a lie. Since you were not a member of Evolution at that time.
Another free advice from me, stop trying to backstroke and stop posting n00b. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:09:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
I think anyone that has spoken to me ingame or think he has an idea of how I thik from my posts here knows enough. So let's keep it at that like I intended in the first place.
Just an idea. Maybe you should keep your posts private to people who would beleive them? We really don't need yet another person talking about something they know nothing about on this forums don't you think? Your comments about logon traps are nothing but a product of fiction or should I say a lie. Since you were not a member of Evolution at that time.
Another free advice from me, stop trying to backstroke and stop posting n00b. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Thrak
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:16:00 -
[65]
Evol don't do log on traps. End of story.
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Thrak
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:16:00 -
[66]
Evol don't do log on traps. End of story.
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:22:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Presidio Just an idea. Maybe you should keep your posts private to people who would beleive them? We really don't need yet another person talking about something they know nothing about on this forums don't you think? Your comments about logon traps are nothing but a product of fiction or should I say a lie.
Another free advice from me, stop trying to backstroke and stop posting n00b.
eeeh.
Right, how about taking your own advice.
I refer people interested in the topic to Thrak. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:22:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Presidio Just an idea. Maybe you should keep your posts private to people who would beleive them? We really don't need yet another person talking about something they know nothing about on this forums don't you think? Your comments about logon traps are nothing but a product of fiction or should I say a lie.
Another free advice from me, stop trying to backstroke and stop posting n00b.
eeeh.
Right, how about taking your own advice.
I refer people interested in the topic to Thrak. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:31:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Thrak Evol don't do log on traps. End of story.
I haven't seen Evol do any of the 'classic' log-on traps, i.e. logging off at a gate/station, so that you warp directly there when you log on. But I don't think you can deny playing many many other log-in games that many call log on traps, although they don't fall under the strict definition.
At many many battles in BKG in the last few months, there were about 5-15 Evol/allies logging in and joining within 1-5 minutes of the start of the battle. Quite a few times almost all at once, which makes it kinda hard to believe that there wasn't some kind of coordination going on. 
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:31:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Thrak Evol don't do log on traps. End of story.
I haven't seen Evol do any of the 'classic' log-on traps, i.e. logging off at a gate/station, so that you warp directly there when you log on. But I don't think you can deny playing many many other log-in games that many call log on traps, although they don't fall under the strict definition.
At many many battles in BKG in the last few months, there were about 5-15 Evol/allies logging in and joining within 1-5 minutes of the start of the battle. Quite a few times almost all at once, which makes it kinda hard to believe that there wasn't some kind of coordination going on. 
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:33:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Luc Boye on 07/09/2004 22:38:51
Originally by: Reassor
let meh explain .... blades get warning coz U ware complaining to GM's EVOLS didnt get any coz PA was not complaining to GM's
see teh diffirence?
well and tbh im quite used to login traps ... especialy in bkg when evols was trying to maitain like 5-10% less forces than pa to make us atack and if we did that local rised by 10-15 ppl (no blobs around , no movement on map) but like i said im used to it now ... but teh lowest thing i saw yesterday ...
For those not familiar with PA propaganda, this is translation:
1.) Allies have 25 ppl at station. PA has 40 in safespot. PA doesnt attack. 2.) We get bored and decide to meet again at decided time, in like 1-1.5 hours. Some go to safespot and hang there, some log off. 3.) PA has 40 vs 10 so they send scout to station. 4.) rally time comes, ppl log back on, we have 25 vs 40 again, PA screams "h4x!!" and "sploit" and goes back to safespot. 5.) GOTO 1
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:33:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Luc Boye on 07/09/2004 22:38:51
Originally by: Reassor
let meh explain .... blades get warning coz U ware complaining to GM's EVOLS didnt get any coz PA was not complaining to GM's
see teh diffirence?
well and tbh im quite used to login traps ... especialy in bkg when evols was trying to maitain like 5-10% less forces than pa to make us atack and if we did that local rised by 10-15 ppl (no blobs around , no movement on map) but like i said im used to it now ... but teh lowest thing i saw yesterday ...
For those not familiar with PA propaganda, this is translation:
1.) Allies have 25 ppl at station. PA has 40 in safespot. PA doesnt attack. 2.) We get bored and decide to meet again at decided time, in like 1-1.5 hours. Some go to safespot and hang there, some log off. 3.) PA has 40 vs 10 so they send scout to station. 4.) rally time comes, ppl log back on, we have 25 vs 40 again, PA screams "h4x!!" and "sploit" and goes back to safespot. 5.) GOTO 1
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:40:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
LOL
and if you keep repeating yourself often enough, you begin to beleive your own spin eh?  Sass Arcane Technologies |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:40:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
LOL
and if you keep repeating yourself often enough, you begin to beleive your own spin eh?  Sass Arcane Technologies |

Rodney Munch
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:44:00 -
[75]
Presidio, seriously can I have some of what your takin/smokin? Cause its obviously good s**t, the little delusional world your in proves that.
So where can I get hold of some of it?
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Rodney Munch
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:44:00 -
[76]
Presidio, seriously can I have some of what your takin/smokin? Cause its obviously good s**t, the little delusional world your in proves that.
So where can I get hold of some of it?
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Javi
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:51:00 -
[77]
log on trap: logging at a gate or station and wait for call to log back on and gank someone.
Evol fleet call: summons on irc or ts is made, all gank crazy evol log on and prepare for battle. if battle is already being fought, of course we'd come running to the battlefields.
presidio: I still wonder how PA would stand by your side while you make a fool of yourself in-game and on the forums. alom seel ghulogh, angi mwungeyom.
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"well..."
-Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |

Javi
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:51:00 -
[78]
log on trap: logging at a gate or station and wait for call to log back on and gank someone.
Evol fleet call: summons on irc or ts is made, all gank crazy evol log on and prepare for battle. if battle is already being fought, of course we'd come running to the battlefields.
presidio: I still wonder how PA would stand by your side while you make a fool of yourself in-game and on the forums. alom seel ghulogh, angi mwungeyom.
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"well..."
-Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |

Icomeinpeace
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:05:00 -
[79]
I'm just glad we have Presidio KOS forever.Makes me all warm and fuzy inside.
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Icomeinpeace
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:05:00 -
[80]
I'm just glad we have Presidio KOS forever.Makes me all warm and fuzy inside.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:47:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
Translation: We got owned fair and square, but are going to whine and blame it on evol's superior use of sploits and hax anyways. What does PA do when we see awesome tactics? We make craptastic attempts at copying them but end up looking like lamers. Which is exactly why I ganked Jackal using PA tactics.
We have lots of problems keeping it in the game, and thus resort to being tards to get some kills, damn Evol for calling us on it in front of the public. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.07 23:47:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
Translation: We got owned fair and square, but are going to whine and blame it on evol's superior use of sploits and hax anyways. What does PA do when we see awesome tactics? We make craptastic attempts at copying them but end up looking like lamers. Which is exactly why I ganked Jackal using PA tactics.
We have lots of problems keeping it in the game, and thus resort to being tards to get some kills, damn Evol for calling us on it in front of the public. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:19:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 00:30:18
Originally by: Icomeinpeace I'm just glad we have Presidio KOS forever.Makes me all warm and fuzy inside.
I hope that's a promise. Knowing that you all hate me so much just makes me feel warm and fuzy  -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:19:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 00:30:18
Originally by: Icomeinpeace I'm just glad we have Presidio KOS forever.Makes me all warm and fuzy inside.
I hope that's a promise. Knowing that you all hate me so much just makes me feel warm and fuzy  -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:21:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 00:35:48
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
Translation: We got owned fair and square, but are going to whine and blame it on evol's superior use of sploits and hax anyways. What does PA do when we see awesome tactics? We make craptastic attempts at copying them but end up looking like lamers. Which is exactly why I ganked Jackal using PA tactics.
We have lots of problems keeping it in the game, and thus resort to being tards to get some kills, damn Evol for calling us on it in front of the public.
Another fine example of... . People that think use of a "Translation:" is clever. lol
ps. Evolution pusi jednu veliku karinu!  -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 00:35:48
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Presidio Evol and Co have to use the lamest tactics to even have a chance at defeating PA. What does PA do when we see lame tacticts? We use them back. Which is exactly why I ganked Jakal using Evol tactics.
We have no problem keeping it in the game it's Evol that likes to talk about it in public.
Translation: We got owned fair and square, but are going to whine and blame it on evol's superior use of sploits and hax anyways. What does PA do when we see awesome tactics? We make craptastic attempts at copying them but end up looking like lamers. Which is exactly why I ganked Jackal using PA tactics.
We have lots of problems keeping it in the game, and thus resort to being tards to get some kills, damn Evol for calling us on it in front of the public.
Another fine example of... . People that think use of a "Translation:" is clever. lol
ps. Evolution pusi jednu veliku karinu!  -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:44:00 -
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That was inappropriate language for these boards Presidio 
On a side note... what..the..hell.... _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:44:00 -
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That was inappropriate language for these boards Presidio 
On a side note... what..the..hell.... _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:58:00 -
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Why do you people always find it so difficult to comprehend?
Unlike groups such as PA or CA, we are one team. We always hang out together, we sit on the same battlefield, we always are only fighting on one front.
We see hostiles in somewhere like BKG, we all go there together to try and kill them. The hostiles are invariably never as well organised, and sit in their safespots waiting for backup.. sometimes for hours and hours. Whilst they are waiting to get their numbers up to at least 2:1, our guys get bored and go off to do other things. They sit on IRC and Teamspeak and go look at some **** or play a game of risk or come post here on the forums or WHATEVER.
Suddenly, hours after the original call, our opponents decide to make a move. Someone who is still in the game will make a call for everyone to come back from whatever they are doing because there is a fight going on.
We all log in to fight.
As if we need a bloody trap to fight you dolts. It isn't a flipping trap, its a call to arms. It's not our fault that we spend most of our days hanging around waiting for you to get organised. The m0o guys know exactly what I'm talking about, caus I've seen them say the same thing.
Now, you can be children about it and claim we are cheating or whatever to make yourselves feel better about it when you get owned, but I think most of you know what the real truth is. These kids from big alliances petition us every week for something ridiculous. We have been investigated more times than you have turned on your computer because of these clueless alliance sewing circles, and we have never been given any warnings.
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.09.08 00:58:00 -
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Why do you people always find it so difficult to comprehend?
Unlike groups such as PA or CA, we are one team. We always hang out together, we sit on the same battlefield, we always are only fighting on one front.
We see hostiles in somewhere like BKG, we all go there together to try and kill them. The hostiles are invariably never as well organised, and sit in their safespots waiting for backup.. sometimes for hours and hours. Whilst they are waiting to get their numbers up to at least 2:1, our guys get bored and go off to do other things. They sit on IRC and Teamspeak and go look at some **** or play a game of risk or come post here on the forums or WHATEVER.
Suddenly, hours after the original call, our opponents decide to make a move. Someone who is still in the game will make a call for everyone to come back from whatever they are doing because there is a fight going on.
We all log in to fight.
As if we need a bloody trap to fight you dolts. It isn't a flipping trap, its a call to arms. It's not our fault that we spend most of our days hanging around waiting for you to get organised. The m0o guys know exactly what I'm talking about, caus I've seen them say the same thing.
Now, you can be children about it and claim we are cheating or whatever to make yourselves feel better about it when you get owned, but I think most of you know what the real truth is. These kids from big alliances petition us every week for something ridiculous. We have been investigated more times than you have turned on your computer because of these clueless alliance sewing circles, and we have never been given any warnings.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 01:26:37 Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 01:07:49
Originally by: Maiwenn LeBesc0 Why do you people always find it so difficult to comprehend?
Unlike groups such as PA or CA, we are one team. We always hang out together, we sit on the same battlefield, we always are only fighting on one front.
We see hostiles in somewhere like BKG, we all go there together to try and kill them. The hostiles are invariably never as well organised, and sit in their safespots waiting for backup.. sometimes for hours and hours. Whilst they are waiting to get their numbers up to at least 2:1, our guys get bored and go off to do other things. They sit on IRC and Teamspeak and go look at some **** or play a game of risk or come post here on the forums or WHATEVER.
Suddenly, hours after the original call, our opponents decide to make a move. Someone who is still in the game will make a call for everyone to come back from whatever they are doing because there is a fight going on.
We all log in to fight.
As if we need a bloody trap to fight you dolts. It isn't a flipping trap, its a call to arms. It's not our fault that we spend most of our days hanging around waiting for you to get organised. The m0o guys know exactly what I'm talking about, caus I've seen them say the same thing.
Now, you can be children about it and claim we are cheating or whatever to make yourselves feel better about it when you get owned, but I think most of you know what the real truth is. These kids from big alliances petition us every week for something ridiculous. We have been investigated more times than you have turned on your computer because of these clueless alliance sewing circles, and we have never been given any warnings.
You know what? I agree with you. I am sure that's how it goes. Except why do you whine about it when the same is done to you? We all pretty much fight the same?
When Homo Erectus did the same thing to Firekiller I did to Jackal, why was evolution all over it on forums? And not me.
Why is PA called safe spot campers when Evol does it just as much, (everyone does it, it's how you organise your gang)
Why is Rona KIA called Running KIA when all roaming corps do the same?
And my favourite one, why is there so many noobs flaming me in hope to get some recognition?
Who needs to grow up here?
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 01:26:37 Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 01:07:49
Originally by: Maiwenn LeBesc0 Why do you people always find it so difficult to comprehend?
Unlike groups such as PA or CA, we are one team. We always hang out together, we sit on the same battlefield, we always are only fighting on one front.
We see hostiles in somewhere like BKG, we all go there together to try and kill them. The hostiles are invariably never as well organised, and sit in their safespots waiting for backup.. sometimes for hours and hours. Whilst they are waiting to get their numbers up to at least 2:1, our guys get bored and go off to do other things. They sit on IRC and Teamspeak and go look at some **** or play a game of risk or come post here on the forums or WHATEVER.
Suddenly, hours after the original call, our opponents decide to make a move. Someone who is still in the game will make a call for everyone to come back from whatever they are doing because there is a fight going on.
We all log in to fight.
As if we need a bloody trap to fight you dolts. It isn't a flipping trap, its a call to arms. It's not our fault that we spend most of our days hanging around waiting for you to get organised. The m0o guys know exactly what I'm talking about, caus I've seen them say the same thing.
Now, you can be children about it and claim we are cheating or whatever to make yourselves feel better about it when you get owned, but I think most of you know what the real truth is. These kids from big alliances petition us every week for something ridiculous. We have been investigated more times than you have turned on your computer because of these clueless alliance sewing circles, and we have never been given any warnings.
You know what? I agree with you. I am sure that's how it goes. Except why do you whine about it when the same is done to you? We all pretty much fight the same?
When Homo Erectus did the same thing to Firekiller I did to Jackal, why was evolution all over it on forums? And not me.
Why is PA called safe spot campers when Evol does it just as much, (everyone does it, it's how you organise your gang)
Why is Rona KIA called Running KIA when all roaming corps do the same?
And my favourite one, why is there so many noobs flaming me in hope to get some recognition?
Who needs to grow up here?
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:24:00 -
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i can answer one of those i think. RONA is a part of an alliance. alliance that claims territory. when they run away from invaders, they loose the claim to that territory, and so their alliance loyalty is questioned. when m0o were in CA, we defended it when SA/Evol came. (while other corps didnt, but they were quick to yell "traitors")
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:24:00 -
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i can answer one of those i think. RONA is a part of an alliance. alliance that claims territory. when they run away from invaders, they loose the claim to that territory, and so their alliance loyalty is questioned. when m0o were in CA, we defended it when SA/Evol came. (while other corps didnt, but they were quick to yell "traitors")
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 01:32:59
Originally by: Negotiator i can answer one of those i think. RONA is a part of an alliance. alliance that claims territory. when they run away from invaders, they loose the claim to that territory, and so their alliance loyalty is questioned. when m0o were in CA, we defended it when SA/Evol came. (while other corps didnt, but they were quick to yell "traitors")
Why would that be any of your concern. R-K are a Roaming corp. They do what they do best and they kick ass at it. Do I ask you where m0o is when we fight Evol solo? Who cares.
And besides PA forces in BKG were more than enough for what we had to deal with. When you outnumber your enemy they never tend to fight anyways.
My question remains, who needs to grow up? -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 01:32:59
Originally by: Negotiator i can answer one of those i think. RONA is a part of an alliance. alliance that claims territory. when they run away from invaders, they loose the claim to that territory, and so their alliance loyalty is questioned. when m0o were in CA, we defended it when SA/Evol came. (while other corps didnt, but they were quick to yell "traitors")
Why would that be any of your concern. R-K are a Roaming corp. They do what they do best and they kick ass at it. Do I ask you where m0o is when we fight Evol solo? Who cares.
And besides PA forces in BKG were more than enough for what we had to deal with. When you outnumber your enemy they never tend to fight anyways.
My question remains, who needs to grow up? -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Presidio
You know what? I agree with you. I am sure that's how it goes. Except why do you whine about it when the same is done to you? We all pretty much fight the same?
No, there is a difference between a group who are maliciously using log-ins as a gank trap and what I just described. Bladerunners knowingly did the former, and were warned by the GMs who investigated. They also admitted doing it.
Quote: When Homo Erectus did the same thing to Firekiller I did to Jackal, why was evolution all over it on forums? And not me.
I can't speak for Homo, and he is also no longer in Evol, but if it is true - two wrongs do not a right make.
Quote: Why is PA called safe spot campers when Evol does it just as much, (everyone does it, it's how you organise your gang)
PA have an actual policy not to fight unless they substantially outnumber their opponent. I find this frustrating and not within the spirit of the game. If we have substantially less numbers than our opponent and they still choose to sit at their safespots rather than defend their "claimed" territory, they will cop some of our scorn, yes.
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Presidio
You know what? I agree with you. I am sure that's how it goes. Except why do you whine about it when the same is done to you? We all pretty much fight the same?
No, there is a difference between a group who are maliciously using log-ins as a gank trap and what I just described. Bladerunners knowingly did the former, and were warned by the GMs who investigated. They also admitted doing it.
Quote: When Homo Erectus did the same thing to Firekiller I did to Jackal, why was evolution all over it on forums? And not me.
I can't speak for Homo, and he is also no longer in Evol, but if it is true - two wrongs do not a right make.
Quote: Why is PA called safe spot campers when Evol does it just as much, (everyone does it, it's how you organise your gang)
PA have an actual policy not to fight unless they substantially outnumber their opponent. I find this frustrating and not within the spirit of the game. If we have substantially less numbers than our opponent and they still choose to sit at their safespots rather than defend their "claimed" territory, they will cop some of our scorn, yes.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:56:00 -
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My concern dear Presidio is none of yours. (omfg im Jade). However, it is my right to call things what they are. Rona ran from invading forces, thus running kia. And regarding that song your leaders used to sing "we had enough people to deal with you in BKG" worked before you withdrew all your forces from the area and ran to empire.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 01:56:00 -
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My concern dear Presidio is none of yours. (omfg im Jade). However, it is my right to call things what they are. Rona ran from invading forces, thus running kia. And regarding that song your leaders used to sing "we had enough people to deal with you in BKG" worked before you withdrew all your forces from the area and ran to empire.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Negotiator My concern dear Presidio is none of yours. (omfg im Jade). However, it is my right to call things what they are. Rona ran from invading forces, thus running kia. And regarding that song your leaders used to sing "we had enough people to deal with you in BKG" worked before you withdrew all your forces from the area and ran to empire.
lol, Jake comment is funny.
We haven't been in empire space since the war started. Atleast GODS haven't. The council had different direction for us, we just executed. We did well in BKG. But not everything is in BKG. We are fighting 110 corporations in this war. One thing is fo sho, and that is that we are still scoring alot of kills every day. I mean you can like steak alot but it gets old if you have it every day for 3 months in the row, ya know -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Negotiator My concern dear Presidio is none of yours. (omfg im Jade). However, it is my right to call things what they are. Rona ran from invading forces, thus running kia. And regarding that song your leaders used to sing "we had enough people to deal with you in BKG" worked before you withdrew all your forces from the area and ran to empire.
lol, Jake comment is funny.
We haven't been in empire space since the war started. Atleast GODS haven't. The council had different direction for us, we just executed. We did well in BKG. But not everything is in BKG. We are fighting 110 corporations in this war. One thing is fo sho, and that is that we are still scoring alot of kills every day. I mean you can like steak alot but it gets old if you have it every day for 3 months in the row, ya know -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Negotiator on 08/09/2004 02:18:25 i dont remember CoD or FU actively claiming your regions. All they want i think is pirate and oppression-free space. Evol, m0o and RKK are the liberators of your claimed territories. I must say, you got a real ****ty council when it comes to making logical descisions.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Negotiator on 08/09/2004 02:18:25 i dont remember CoD or FU actively claiming your regions. All they want i think is pirate and oppression-free space. Evol, m0o and RKK are the liberators of your claimed territories. I must say, you got a real ****ty council when it comes to making logical descisions.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 08/09/2004 02:19:52 Comparing your pvp experience with evol, rkk and m0o to eating steak is far from realistic. It was more like mommy Halseth sat you down in BKG and made you chew those veggies. We all know veggies may not be tasty but its good for yous.. makes you stronger in the long run 
edit: typo
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 08/09/2004 02:19:52 Comparing your pvp experience with evol, rkk and m0o to eating steak is far from realistic. It was more like mommy Halseth sat you down in BKG and made you chew those veggies. We all know veggies may not be tasty but its good for yous.. makes you stronger in the long run 
edit: typo
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:22:00 -
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Well, I am retiring from this thread. Gotta go home...
http://forum.gods-eve.com/viewforum.php?f=3 -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:22:00 -
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Well, I am retiring from this thread. Gotta go home...
http://forum.gods-eve.com/viewforum.php?f=3 -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Thrak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Thrak on 08/09/2004 02:43:05
Originally by: Shirei At many many battles in BKG in the last few months, there were about 5-15 Evol/allies logging in and joining within 1-5 minutes of the start of the battle. Quite a few times almost all at once, which makes it kinda hard to believe that there wasn't some kind of coordination going on. 
The only coordination is pointed out above i.e. people got bored of waiting and are basically doing other stuff. It is worth noting that virtually the only time fleet engagements in BKG or surrounding areas happen is when our side either attacks a numerically superior force or sits at station waiting for those same said forces to engage us - and in both cases I suppose you would see those guys join ~5 minutes before anything happens (either the move to station or preparing to engage).
This is in no way a trap, or even devious use of logging on or off - we probably have had one or more pilots join midway through a fight as well but that would just be late arrivals as usual.
This whole bit is probably irrelevant tho, these baseless accusations (and, rofl 'assumptions' it would seem in some cases) of log on traps seem to relate to us being fast movers.
We're clean. Squeaky clean. And unlike some others, we might even have the mails to prove it. 
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Thrak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Thrak on 08/09/2004 02:43:05
Originally by: Shirei At many many battles in BKG in the last few months, there were about 5-15 Evol/allies logging in and joining within 1-5 minutes of the start of the battle. Quite a few times almost all at once, which makes it kinda hard to believe that there wasn't some kind of coordination going on. 
The only coordination is pointed out above i.e. people got bored of waiting and are basically doing other stuff. It is worth noting that virtually the only time fleet engagements in BKG or surrounding areas happen is when our side either attacks a numerically superior force or sits at station waiting for those same said forces to engage us - and in both cases I suppose you would see those guys join ~5 minutes before anything happens (either the move to station or preparing to engage).
This is in no way a trap, or even devious use of logging on or off - we probably have had one or more pilots join midway through a fight as well but that would just be late arrivals as usual.
This whole bit is probably irrelevant tho, these baseless accusations (and, rofl 'assumptions' it would seem in some cases) of log on traps seem to relate to us being fast movers.
We're clean. Squeaky clean. And unlike some others, we might even have the mails to prove it. 
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.09.08 03:33:00 -
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who the feck cares dudes. Maybe both sides should stop this constant bickering about inconsequential bullcrap on the forums. Talking about the war is one thing, but sitting around calling each other exploiters is just plain silly.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.09.08 03:33:00 -
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who the feck cares dudes. Maybe both sides should stop this constant bickering about inconsequential bullcrap on the forums. Talking about the war is one thing, but sitting around calling each other exploiters is just plain silly.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.08 03:49:00 -
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It more or less started with each side being defensive, rather than blaming anyone specifically.
Its usually the newbs that get caught in the crossfire that start such accusations and then everyone gets their panties all twisted trying to bounce them back to the other side.
In the end, who cares really... if there is any foul play just press F12 and the GM's will take it from there. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.08 03:49:00 -
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It more or less started with each side being defensive, rather than blaming anyone specifically.
Its usually the newbs that get caught in the crossfire that start such accusations and then everyone gets their panties all twisted trying to bounce them back to the other side.
In the end, who cares really... if there is any foul play just press F12 and the GM's will take it from there. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:18:00 -
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Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 08/09/2004 04:19:53
Originally by: Negotiator My concern dear Presidio is none of yours. (omfg im Jade). However, it is my right to call things what they are. Rona ran from invading forces, thus running kia. And regarding that song your leaders used to sing "we had enough people to deal with you in BKG" worked before you withdrew all your forces from the area and ran to empire.
/me slaps Negotiator
NO don't turn into Jade we can only bare having one. Now go gank the evil zyd miners that jack up the price of battleships.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:18:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 08/09/2004 04:19:53
Originally by: Negotiator My concern dear Presidio is none of yours. (omfg im Jade). However, it is my right to call things what they are. Rona ran from invading forces, thus running kia. And regarding that song your leaders used to sing "we had enough people to deal with you in BKG" worked before you withdrew all your forces from the area and ran to empire.
/me slaps Negotiator
NO don't turn into Jade we can only bare having one. Now go gank the evil zyd miners that jack up the price of battleships.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Negotiator My concern dear Presidio is none of yours. (omfg im Jade). However, it is my right to call things what they are. Rona ran from invading forces, thus running kia. And regarding that song your leaders used to sing "we had enough people to deal with you in BKG" worked before you withdrew all your forces from the area and ran to empire.
You see we were ordered to do what we did by the council because if we had not they would have been in BKG as well causing the guys up there a lot more hassle. We hardly RAN in to a non hostile situation we arrived and slap the living poo out of 2 alliances, as a ex COD member said "the COD fleet was destroyed in about 1 week" yep thats right 2 alliances vs 1 corp
nuff said
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Negotiator My concern dear Presidio is none of yours. (omfg im Jade). However, it is my right to call things what they are. Rona ran from invading forces, thus running kia. And regarding that song your leaders used to sing "we had enough people to deal with you in BKG" worked before you withdrew all your forces from the area and ran to empire.
You see we were ordered to do what we did by the council because if we had not they would have been in BKG as well causing the guys up there a lot more hassle. We hardly RAN in to a non hostile situation we arrived and slap the living poo out of 2 alliances, as a ex COD member said "the COD fleet was destroyed in about 1 week" yep thats right 2 alliances vs 1 corp
nuff said
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist It more or less started with each side being defensive, rather than blaming anyone specifically.
Its usually the newbs that get caught in the crossfire that start such accusations and then everyone gets their panties all twisted trying to bounce them back to the other side.
In the end, who cares really... if there is any foul play just press F12 and the GM's will take it from there.
LOL! That's a great post.
Totally agree, hit F12 if you're worried there's 'sploits happening.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist It more or less started with each side being defensive, rather than blaming anyone specifically.
Its usually the newbs that get caught in the crossfire that start such accusations and then everyone gets their panties all twisted trying to bounce them back to the other side.
In the end, who cares really... if there is any foul play just press F12 and the GM's will take it from there.
LOL! That's a great post.
Totally agree, hit F12 if you're worried there's 'sploits happening.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.08 12:10:00 -
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Well this thread went downhill fast. ---
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.08 12:10:00 -
[122]
Well this thread went downhill fast. ---
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.08 12:46:00 -
[123]
Originally by: KIAInkZ Well this thread went downhill fast.
Agreed, not my doing tho. _______________________________________________
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.08 12:46:00 -
[124]
Originally by: KIAInkZ Well this thread went downhill fast.
Agreed, not my doing tho. _______________________________________________
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Comnander Marcello
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:01:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Comnander Marcello on 08/09/2004 13:02:40
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Agreed, not my doing tho.
Nope, you are just here for the attention. n00b from CA joining evolution and suddenly you know everything about their corp and their enemies.
wow
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Comnander Marcello
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:01:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Comnander Marcello on 08/09/2004 13:02:40
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Agreed, not my doing tho.
Nope, you are just here for the attention. n00b from CA joining evolution and suddenly you know everything about their corp and their enemies.
wow
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:22:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Comnander Marcello Edited by: Comnander Marcello on 08/09/2004 13:02:40
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Agreed, not my doing tho.
Nope, you are just here for the attention. n00b from CA joining evolution and suddenly you know everything about their corp and their enemies.
wow
ROFL so true and sadly he is not the only one half the Evol noobs are the same
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:22:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Comnander Marcello Edited by: Comnander Marcello on 08/09/2004 13:02:40
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Agreed, not my doing tho.
Nope, you are just here for the attention. n00b from CA joining evolution and suddenly you know everything about their corp and their enemies.
wow
ROFL so true and sadly he is not the only one half the Evol noobs are the same
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:27:00 -
[129]
rofl.
Think calling me a noob will bother me ? Go ahead. _______________________________________________
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:27:00 -
[130]
rofl.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.08 15:22:00 -
[131]
noob
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.08 15:22:00 -
[132]
noob
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:29:00 -
[133]
R-K is all log-off exploit and A3D
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:29:00 -
[134]
R-K is all log-off exploit and A3D
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.09.09 02:36:00 -
[135]
All namecalling and finger-pointing aside, I for one think it's time for us to come clean. So, I'll go first...
Hi, my name is Estarriol and I use lame nodes.
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.09.09 02:36:00 -
[136]
All namecalling and finger-pointing aside, I for one think it's time for us to come clean. So, I'll go first...
Hi, my name is Estarriol and I use lame nodes.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.09.09 03:00:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Estarriol Hi, my name is Estarriol and I use lame nodes.
rofl, that lame nodes thing still *****s me up! 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.09.09 03:00:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Estarriol Hi, my name is Estarriol and I use lame nodes.
rofl, that lame nodes thing still *****s me up! 
Eve Blacklight Style
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2004.09.09 04:51:00 -
[139]
Edited by: HavokTBP on 09/09/2004 04:56:27 m0o never fought Evol when they came to CA space back in nov/dec so don't lie. An I'm pretty sure one of you said no when we wanted you to.
Then you go off an leave CA, then fight us, an then get Evol to join you guys together.
But there was a group that did use log off tactics but I coulda swore it was SA.... But it was a long time ago, I could be wrong on that..... Might of been CC
Edit..... Ah, I remember someone using the grid exploit 
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption Leader of The Black Plague.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2004.09.09 04:51:00 -
[140]
Edited by: HavokTBP on 09/09/2004 04:56:27 m0o never fought Evol when they came to CA space back in nov/dec so don't lie. An I'm pretty sure one of you said no when we wanted you to.
Then you go off an leave CA, then fight us, an then get Evol to join you guys together.
But there was a group that did use log off tactics but I coulda swore it was SA.... But it was a long time ago, I could be wrong on that..... Might of been CC
Edit..... Ah, I remember someone using the grid exploit 
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption Leader of The Black Plague.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:16:00 -
[141]
m0o did indeed fight us at that time Havok, I well remember downing some of their ships... and them downing some of ours, in a huge battle in hlw, and other skirmishes here and there thru ca space.
P.S. As for the initial point of this thread, I've never seen r-k do a log in trap personally. R-K to me is a blob. A blob on the map that disappears whenever we get within 5 jumps. No biggie that they don't wanna fight us, it appears their "fight everyone except competent pvpers" strategy is paying off for them.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:16:00 -
[142]
m0o did indeed fight us at that time Havok, I well remember downing some of their ships... and them downing some of ours, in a huge battle in hlw, and other skirmishes here and there thru ca space.
P.S. As for the initial point of this thread, I've never seen r-k do a log in trap personally. R-K to me is a blob. A blob on the map that disappears whenever we get within 5 jumps. No biggie that they don't wanna fight us, it appears their "fight everyone except competent pvpers" strategy is paying off for them.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.09.09 08:49:00 -
[143]
Edited by: SlightlyMad on 09/09/2004 08:51:50
Originally by: ProphetGuru + P.S. As for the initial point of this thread, I've never seen r-k do a log in trap personally. R-K to me is a blob. A blob on the map that disappears whenever we get within 5 jumps. No biggie that they don't wanna fight us, it appears their "fight everyone except competent pvpers" strategy is paying off for them.
Delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.09.09 08:49:00 -
[144]
Edited by: SlightlyMad on 09/09/2004 08:51:50
Originally by: ProphetGuru + P.S. As for the initial point of this thread, I've never seen r-k do a log in trap personally. R-K to me is a blob. A blob on the map that disappears whenever we get within 5 jumps. No biggie that they don't wanna fight us, it appears their "fight everyone except competent pvpers" strategy is paying off for them.
Delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
* -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |

sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:18:00 -
[145]
Yeah I remember killing Zap at a HLW jip
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:18:00 -
[146]
Yeah I remember killing Zap at a HLW jip
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:27:00 -
[147]
Originally by: HavokTBP Edited by: HavokTBP on 09/09/2004 04:56:27 m0o never fought Evol when they came to CA space back in nov/dec so don't lie. An I'm pretty sure one of you said no when we wanted you to.
Then you go off an leave CA, then fight us, an then get Evol to join you guys together.
But there was a group that did use log off tactics but I coulda swore it was SA.... But it was a long time ago, I could be wrong on that..... Might of been CC
Edit..... Ah, I remember someone using the grid exploit 
Err...
So that massive fight we had in HLW where i got left on my own with a bunch of angry Evol didnt happen then?
That time where i lost my Scorp to Evol didnt happen either eh?
That time We killed Shrike couldnt of happened either then.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:27:00 -
[148]
Originally by: HavokTBP Edited by: HavokTBP on 09/09/2004 04:56:27 m0o never fought Evol when they came to CA space back in nov/dec so don't lie. An I'm pretty sure one of you said no when we wanted you to.
Then you go off an leave CA, then fight us, an then get Evol to join you guys together.
But there was a group that did use log off tactics but I coulda swore it was SA.... But it was a long time ago, I could be wrong on that..... Might of been CC
Edit..... Ah, I remember someone using the grid exploit 
Err...
So that massive fight we had in HLW where i got left on my own with a bunch of angry Evol didnt happen then?
That time where i lost my Scorp to Evol didnt happen either eh?
That time We killed Shrike couldnt of happened either then.
 Sass Arcane Technologies |

KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:33:00 -
[149]
Originally by: dimensionZ R-K is all log-off exploit and A3D
LoL
Now that got my interest.
I,m assumin your HLDM days were when KIA ruled the waves ;), and your a USA boy. Not the infamous Di?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:33:00 -
[150]
Originally by: dimensionZ R-K is all log-off exploit and A3D
LoL
Now that got my interest.
I,m assumin your HLDM days were when KIA ruled the waves ;), and your a USA boy. Not the infamous Di?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:51:00 -
[151]
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: dimensionZ R-K is all log-off exploit and A3D
LoL
Now that got my interest.
I,m assumin your HLDM days were when KIA ruled the waves ;), and your a USA boy. Not the infamous Di?
I think you'll find it's DMZ from KP :) ---
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:51:00 -
[152]
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: dimensionZ R-K is all log-off exploit and A3D
LoL
Now that got my interest.
I,m assumin your HLDM days were when KIA ruled the waves ;), and your a USA boy. Not the infamous Di?
I think you'll find it's DMZ from KP :) ---
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:00:00 -
[153]
ooooh. KP were good bunch of guys.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:00:00 -
[154]
ooooh. KP were good bunch of guys.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:08:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Presidio Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 00:30:18
Originally by: Icomeinpeace I'm just glad we have Presidio KOS forever.Makes me all warm and fuzy inside.
I hope that's a promise. Knowing that you all hate me so much just makes me feel warm and fuzy 
don't confuse hatred with pity.
for the rest of you, what the hell is up with this 'you are n00b' toss? I go away for months, and half of you guys' mental ages have actually gone down.
A decent insult is hardly difficult.
Or maybe it is...
But you should really try harder. .
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:08:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Presidio Edited by: Presidio on 08/09/2004 00:30:18
Originally by: Icomeinpeace I'm just glad we have Presidio KOS forever.Makes me all warm and fuzy inside.
I hope that's a promise. Knowing that you all hate me so much just makes me feel warm and fuzy 
don't confuse hatred with pity.
for the rest of you, what the hell is up with this 'you are n00b' toss? I go away for months, and half of you guys' mental ages have actually gone down.
A decent insult is hardly difficult.
Or maybe it is...
But you should really try harder. .
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:23:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Shamrock on 09/09/2004 14:25:48
Originally by: Presidio Edited by: Presidio on 07/09/2004 19:34:45
Originally by: Faramir
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
Evol never used log on traps! Is this a joke? This is the only way Evol fights. We can prove it over an over again. You really want me to fraps all your logins prior to a fight? That's cool though we don't whine about it. You use spies we don't whine about that eighter. Whatever you have to do to get the advantage in a fight it's cool, because you obvously suck at fighting.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU MAN!!
Last night TheFatman and I were in 6OY. Tumadra with several other GODS and an odd Level 2 corp member tried a Log On Trap last on us. Using a kestrel as bait at the station with atleast 2 logged off in another system and 3-4 in 6OY. Fatman goes to the station to draw ya'll out, btw, it is fatman, me and the bait at the station. There is no one in system besides us. Map shows the couple players logged off at the system next door. Anyway, Fatman at the station and he turns and is warping out and I my address explode with 3 log ins of PA. Then local is 7 hostiles to our 2. That my friend is a log in trap. And you come here spewing crap about us. You have lost your mind.
Edit: Presidio, You were one of them. Shamrock
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:23:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Shamrock on 09/09/2004 14:25:48
Originally by: Presidio Edited by: Presidio on 07/09/2004 19:34:45
Originally by: Faramir
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
Evol never used log on traps! Is this a joke? This is the only way Evol fights. We can prove it over an over again. You really want me to fraps all your logins prior to a fight? That's cool though we don't whine about it. You use spies we don't whine about that eighter. Whatever you have to do to get the advantage in a fight it's cool, because you obvously suck at fighting.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU MAN!!
Last night TheFatman and I were in 6OY. Tumadra with several other GODS and an odd Level 2 corp member tried a Log On Trap last on us. Using a kestrel as bait at the station with atleast 2 logged off in another system and 3-4 in 6OY. Fatman goes to the station to draw ya'll out, btw, it is fatman, me and the bait at the station. There is no one in system besides us. Map shows the couple players logged off at the system next door. Anyway, Fatman at the station and he turns and is warping out and I my address explode with 3 log ins of PA. Then local is 7 hostiles to our 2. That my friend is a log in trap. And you come here spewing crap about us. You have lost your mind.
Edit: Presidio, You were one of them. Shamrock
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:42:00 -
[159]
It's not a log on trap it's a tactic. the map shows blobs in the systems yes? So in most traveling fleets ships will move ahead log off and hide the blob while other slower ships move up. Once everyone is grouped again then they move. Besides that if you see the local fill up and your not paying attention. Your gank is your own fault. Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!! |

The Cursed
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:42:00 -
[160]
It's not a log on trap it's a tactic. the map shows blobs in the systems yes? So in most traveling fleets ships will move ahead log off and hide the blob while other slower ships move up. Once everyone is grouped again then they move. Besides that if you see the local fill up and your not paying attention. Your gank is your own fault. Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!! |

Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:51:00 -
[161]
Edited by: Presidio on 09/09/2004 14:54:48
Originally by: Shamrock Edited by: Shamrock on 09/09/2004 14:25:48
Originally by: Presidio Edited by: Presidio on 07/09/2004 19:34:45
Originally by: Faramir
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
Evol never used log on traps! Is this a joke? This is the only way Evol fights. We can prove it over an over again. You really want me to fraps all your logins prior to a fight? That's cool though we don't whine about it. You use spies we don't whine about that eighter. Whatever you have to do to get the advantage in a fight it's cool, because you obvously suck at fighting.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU MAN!!
Last night TheFatman and I were in 6OY. Tumadra with several other GODS and an odd Level 2 corp member tried a Log On Trap last on us. Using a kestrel as bait at the station with atleast 2 logged off in another system and 3-4 in 6OY. Fatman goes to the station to draw ya'll out, btw, it is fatman, me and the bait at the station. There is no one in system besides us. Map shows the couple players logged off at the system next door. Anyway, Fatman at the station and he turns and is warping out and I my address explode with 3 log ins of PA. Then local is 7 hostiles to our 2. That my friend is a log in trap. And you come here spewing crap about us. You have lost your mind.
Edit: Presidio, You were one of them.
TS: PA Memeber> hey there are 2 hostiles in 6oy. Presidio> oh cool I am logged off there. PA Member2> let's log on and fight. Presidio> alright. PA Member> they are safe spoted. Presidio> ok I am logging off going to get something to eat.
Log on trap would have been if any of us were logged on at the station waiting for you to attack it. But none of us were at the station. This is just how the game works I mean read this thread again this is exactly what you guys admit doing.
But I was right again. It's Evol that whines about it, wasn't I?

Here I found it for you:
Originally by: Thrak Edited by: Thrak on 08/09/2004 02:43:05
The only coordination is pointed out above i.e. people got bored of waiting and are basically doing other stuff. It is worth noting that virtually the only time fleet engagements in BKG or surrounding areas happen is when our side either attacks a numerically superior force or sits at station waiting for those same said forces to engage us - and in both cases I suppose you would see those guys join ~5 minutes before anything happens (either the move to station or preparing to engage).
This is in no way a trap, or even devious use of logging on or off - we probably have had one or more pilots join midway through a fight as well but that would just be late arrivals as usual.
This whole bit is probably irrelevant tho, these baseless accusations (and, rofl 'assumptions' it would seem in some cases) of log on traps seem to relate to us being fast movers.
We're clean. Squeaky clean. And unlike some others, we might even have the mails to prove it. 
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:51:00 -
[162]
Edited by: Presidio on 09/09/2004 14:54:48
Originally by: Shamrock Edited by: Shamrock on 09/09/2004 14:25:48
Originally by: Presidio Edited by: Presidio on 07/09/2004 19:34:45
Originally by: Faramir
Originally by: SlightlyMad
Originally by: sutty feeling abit guilty
No seriously I haven't heard anything about you doing log in traps, but Bladerunners are a different story 
Those guys doing that learned from Evolution how to do it. I personally think its quite amusing if anyone used it against you
What goes around comes around. 
KK, show me where we proven guilty of this? I know for a fact bladerunners got warnings. And we didn't. We beat the map and our enemies. Now go talk to Artegg he knows what I mean. I talked to him about it and saw it my/our way.
We beat the map, but some guys don't get that. Have a nice day in never never land and get completely mad.
Evol never used log on traps! Is this a joke? This is the only way Evol fights. We can prove it over an over again. You really want me to fraps all your logins prior to a fight? That's cool though we don't whine about it. You use spies we don't whine about that eighter. Whatever you have to do to get the advantage in a fight it's cool, because you obvously suck at fighting.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU MAN!!
Last night TheFatman and I were in 6OY. Tumadra with several other GODS and an odd Level 2 corp member tried a Log On Trap last on us. Using a kestrel as bait at the station with atleast 2 logged off in another system and 3-4 in 6OY. Fatman goes to the station to draw ya'll out, btw, it is fatman, me and the bait at the station. There is no one in system besides us. Map shows the couple players logged off at the system next door. Anyway, Fatman at the station and he turns and is warping out and I my address explode with 3 log ins of PA. Then local is 7 hostiles to our 2. That my friend is a log in trap. And you come here spewing crap about us. You have lost your mind.
Edit: Presidio, You were one of them.
TS: PA Memeber> hey there are 2 hostiles in 6oy. Presidio> oh cool I am logged off there. PA Member2> let's log on and fight. Presidio> alright. PA Member> they are safe spoted. Presidio> ok I am logging off going to get something to eat.
Log on trap would have been if any of us were logged on at the station waiting for you to attack it. But none of us were at the station. This is just how the game works I mean read this thread again this is exactly what you guys admit doing.
But I was right again. It's Evol that whines about it, wasn't I?

Here I found it for you:
Originally by: Thrak Edited by: Thrak on 08/09/2004 02:43:05
The only coordination is pointed out above i.e. people got bored of waiting and are basically doing other stuff. It is worth noting that virtually the only time fleet engagements in BKG or surrounding areas happen is when our side either attacks a numerically superior force or sits at station waiting for those same said forces to engage us - and in both cases I suppose you would see those guys join ~5 minutes before anything happens (either the move to station or preparing to engage).
This is in no way a trap, or even devious use of logging on or off - we probably have had one or more pilots join midway through a fight as well but that would just be late arrivals as usual.
This whole bit is probably irrelevant tho, these baseless accusations (and, rofl 'assumptions' it would seem in some cases) of log on traps seem to relate to us being fast movers.
We're clean. Squeaky clean. And unlike some others, we might even have the mails to prove it. 
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:00:00 -
[163]
get a room guys
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:00:00 -
[164]
get a room guys
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:02:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Shamad Conde Wherever you go, whatever you do to the people you fight, they will always tell you that you use Login Traps, exploits, hacking, dos'ing.
If you want to hear a lot of it, go to Cache.
hear ya! ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:02:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Shamad Conde Wherever you go, whatever you do to the people you fight, they will always tell you that you use Login Traps, exploits, hacking, dos'ing.
If you want to hear a lot of it, go to Cache.
hear ya! ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:05:00 -
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who cares its not against the rules ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:05:00 -
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who cares its not against the rules ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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