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Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2009.05.20 04:11:00 - [61] Sure. If you fix the damn capacitor 'bonus' every ship has, and give every amarr ship a 7.5%/level ROF bonus... I could go for that. Originally by: Akita T Seriously ? ...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
Da Death Minmatar Relentless Enterprises	Posted - 2009.05.20 04:59:00 - [62] Originally by: abrasive soap get out right Originally by: Armoured C how about you STFU stop trying to nerf things every laser boat you need heatsink just to do damage please go get bubbled and die somewhere ¼_¼ right Originally by: THE L0CK Originally by: Muhammed Jafar also to the lock: you suck you swallow. forgive me for not thinking out of the box here, but don't lasers already have a cycle time just like every other gun and missile? Weapon cycles, it fires, weapon cycles, it fires. How exactly would your cycle time be different? yeah laser already has a timer u n0000000b :P á Curse Absolution Prorator Impel T2 Mods/Drones/Ammo Manufacturer Since 2003.
fuxinos Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm	Posted - 2009.05.20 05:12:00 - [63] Originally by: Berendas Originally by: Muhammed Jafar Originally by: THE L0CK Originally by: Muhammed Jafar also to the lock: you suck you swallow. forgive me for not thinking out of the box here, but don't lasers already have a cycle time just like every other gun and missile? Weapon cycles, it fires, weapon cycles, it fires. How exactly would your cycle time be different? hits at end of cycle, no longer insta damage. not a big change really, in sustained engagements it would make little difference. but it would add some balance to omgimmacharginmahlaz0rs It's kind of hard to justify giving lasers travel time, since you know, they travel at the speed of friggin light. Methinks the OP is butthurt because he found out the hard way that his Drake has a big EM resist hole Atleast now CCP has a explainable idea how to nerf other weaponsystems even more.
Shilo Ticondrega	Posted - 2009.05.20 05:17:00 - [64] weapons are supposed to be deadly not a bunch of ping pong balls and light shows. all the weapons have been nerfed to the point of being useless. and all we get is more nerf calls . to put it simply weapons hurt. get it over it.
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.05.20 05:21:00 - [65] How to nerf lasers: Boost everything else, duh.
Rhadamantine Game Community	Posted - 2009.05.20 05:37:00 - [66] Oh dear.
Beleti Ninhursag Butcher the weak	Posted - 2009.05.20 07:36:00 - [67] sadly this is what you get when you let ppl with no clue post on the internets.... lazers are fine, even blasters are fine.. just large projectiles need a slight rework... Originally by: Dao Rheng I'm going to be flying a megathron, but I'm still pretty new to it. I haven't been doing as much damage as I'd like to. Fitting: High slots - 6x 720mm Howitzer Artillery Cannons
Sleepkevert Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.05.20 07:52:00 - [68] Originally by: Muhammed Jafar Originally by: THE L0CK Originally by: Muhammed Jafar also to the lock: you suck you swallow. forgive me for not thinking out of the box here, but don't lasers already have a cycle time just like every other gun and missile? Weapon cycles, it fires, weapon cycles, it fires. How exactly would your cycle time be different? hits at end of cycle, no longer insta damage. not a big change really, in sustained engagements it would make little difference. but it would add some balance to omgimmacharginmahlaz0rs Right, like lazers already have an high alpha. Oh and, 9/10 because you got a three page thread with less then three sentences. _ Add your own line!
Buzz Norvid Capax Infiniti	Posted - 2009.05.20 10:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Lance Fighter Sure. If you fix the damn capacitor 'bonus' every ship has, and give every amarr ship a 7.5%/level ROF bonus... I could go for that. And CCP must create a high slot mod which, for appropriate module size / ship size will drain the ammo from victims cargo at a rate where after about 10-20 sec's all the ammo is gone. OK I see how the op wants to make all the weapon systems similiar, lets do it, it will be great.
Labratory Rat	Posted - 2009.05.20 11:05:00 - [70] Originally by: Buzz Norvid And CCP must create a high slot mod which, for appropriate module size / ship size will drain the ammo from victims cargo at a rate where after about 10-20 sec's all the ammo is gone. OK I see how the op wants to make all the weapon systems similiar, lets do it, it will be great. THIS
Jita Security	Posted - 2009.05.20 11:14:00 - [71] Stop Trolling OP.
Grez Minmatar Core Contingency Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2009.05.20 11:35:00 - [72] Epic amounts of fail. Just EPIC amounts. Normal firing sequence: Fire, cycle, fire, cycle, fire, cycle, fire, cycle.. New firing sequence: Cycle, fire, cycle, fire, cycle, fire, cycle, fire.. OH SNAP, SAME AMOUNT OF DAMAGE, JUST DELAYED A FEW SECONDS. --- Grez: I shot the sheriff Kalazar: But I could not lock the Deputy BECAUSE OF FALCON
Chereadenine Zakalwe Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.20 12:07:00 - [73] Originally by: Muhammed Jafar They have to "charge" and hit at the end of cycle. commence QQ Bloody trolls.... Saying that.. How about CCP introduce a universal ship system..all classes of ship share the same amount of high med low slots,recieve bonuses for all weapons and mods,in fact all ships are the same apart from the models. CCP can call the patch "Idividuality End" That way no-one can cry nerf cos were all equal :) What ya all reckon..one to put to the new CSM`s? ô您&# Telling somebody you love them is like firing first in a dual. Your screwed if you miss them..
NeoTheo Dark Materials Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.20 12:30:00 - [74] Originally by: Armoured C how about you STFU stop trying to nerf things every laser boat you need heatsink just to do damage please go get bubbled and die somewhere ¼_¼ no you! seriously, i cant believe your moaning about lazer damage, original poster was a idiot, that dont mean you should lower your self by being equally idiotic ac,. /grip Dark Materials
Nerve Junkie Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.05.20 13:12:00 - [75] Just cause your Caldari and your poor shields just happen to have less resistances from lasers does not mean they need a nerf. On another note I hear they have a new exhibit at the zoo, a troll cage.. I suggest you go visit your brothers.
Neamus	Posted - 2009.05.20 15:18:00 - [76] So no change to dps, tracking, range, falloff ect ect. Just a delay to alpha? Why? Is it BECAUSE OF FALCON?
Xianbei	Posted - 2009.05.20 15:19:00 - [77] Originally by: Muhammed Jafar They have to "charge" and hit at the end of cycle. commence QQ already nerfed by only having 2 dmg types and needing frak ton of cap
Reven Cordelle Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.05.20 15:27:00 - [78] This thread is going places. The last thing lasers need is a nerf. Infact, I think we're past nerfing weapons. They've been knocked around so much that they're all pretty much just slow ways of dying. I say we all start flying small nuclear bombs. Whoever chickens out first loses.
Josfius	Posted - 2009.05.20 15:34:00 - [79] Originally by: Berendas Methinks the OP is butthurt Yep, like all QQing whiners that post things like this.
THE L0CK	Posted - 2009.05.20 15:54:00 - [80] Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe Originally by: Muhammed Jafar They have to "charge" and hit at the end of cycle. commence QQ Bloody trolls.... Saying that.. How about CCP introduce a universal ship system..all classes of ship share the same amount of high med low slots,recieve bonuses for all weapons and mods,in fact all ships are the same apart from the models. CCP can call the patch "Idividuality End" That way no-one can cry nerf cos were all equal :) What ya all reckon..one to put to the new CSM`s? Mythic did that very same thing with the Mauler class in DAOC and all 3 realms had them. Same stats, same abilities, different character skins. Guess what PEOPLE STILL COMPLAINED ABOUT THEM! I don't think facepalm was invented yet but if anything needed a picard facepalm it was that.
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2009.05.20 16:23:00 - [81] pathetic The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.05.20 16:30:00 - [82] Originally by: Senghir Originally by: Muhammed Jafar They have to "charge" and hit at the end of cycle. commence QQ Your post (including the emphasised text) reads like a punchline of a joke. Only I don't get it. /me looks for any emphasis. Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
Gallente Citizen1166	Posted - 2009.05.20 18:50:00 - [83] I just fit my ship with mirrored plating. Those lasers just ricochet right off of me for 0 damage.
THE L0CK	Posted - 2009.05.20 19:00:00 - [84] Originally by: Gallente Citizen1166 I just fit my ship with mirrored plating. Those lasers just ricochet right off of me for 0 damage. I throw a rock at your ship.
Trader20	Posted - 2009.05.20 19:20:00 - [85] Lasers should be chanced-based just like ecm
Ms DaisyMae Burning Bush Enterprises	Posted - 2009.05.20 19:40:00 - [86] Originally by: Muhammed Jafar Originally by: THE L0CK Edited by: THE L0CK on 19/05/2009 23:09:59 Originally by: Muhammed Jafar the fact that lasers have the best range is pretty widely accepted. have you looked at pulse v. autocannon v. blaster? not even close I noticed you marked all the short ranged weapons. Me thinks Rails and Caldari range bonus's beat your lasers. yeah ok the rokh can beat the apoc. thats about it. and as for short range, it makes a huge difference when blasters have to sit next to you and lasers can easily kite them. minmittar have their whole fighting in fallawful but we all know how bad autocannons are Did you just say Kite? Shut up now.
Darkerz Reloaded Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.20 19:44:00 - [87] Edited by: Darkerz Reloaded on 20/05/2009 19:45:20 Edited by: Darkerz Reloaded on 20/05/2009 19:45:07 Originally by: Armoured C how about you STFU stop trying to nerf things every laser boat you need heatsink just to do damage please go get bubbled and die somewhere ¼_¼ This
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.05.20 19:45:00 - [88] Originally by: Labratory Rat Originally by: Buzz Norvid And CCP must create a high slot mod which, for appropriate module size / ship size will drain the ammo from victims cargo at a rate where after about 10-20 sec's all the ammo is gone. OK I see how the op wants to make all the weapon systems similiar, lets do it, it will be great. THIS Oh **** son, I like it!
Hydra Ki Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.05.20 19:47:00 - [89] How to nerf lasers is the topic of this thread. the flavor of upgrading the turret weapon systems to load/reload ammo as fast as a lens can be swapped out.
Scott Ryder Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.05.20 20:31:00 - [90] I cant ever recall making a nerf this, boost that thread. Why? I adapt. I started out as a amarr (my main is amarr) Amarr used to suck, and I was Amarr when it sucked. I think passive drakes and nighthawks got a insane unfair advantage due to their extreeme tanks. I dont whine about it, we all had the same choices when we created our characters. I simply made another character, Caldari. A while later i noticed that gallente got the best carrier pilots. I dont whine on the forums asking for balance, I make a gallente character. Do you see a pattern here? If every race in the game was equal, pvp would be blob vs bigger blob. Blobbing would be even a bigger problem then what it is today. It is good that races got pros and cons. Just my 2 cents

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