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Chelou
Gallente Airborne Assassins United Manufacturing and Technology Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:01:00 -
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To be short , this is a eveplayer mentality : Whats blue or related to Kenzoku = pet Whats blue or related to Goons = Individual alliances that don't give a f*** about standings Ex: - ExE = pet cuz they fight hand in hand with bob ...doesn't matter they are a good alliance that can claim a space by there own , or not ? - Stainwagon = bob pets cuz they agreed to be on bob's side ... doesn't matter they were bobs enemies for a long time - I even heard someone said that AAA its a bob pet now ! awesome - The Romanians I heard a few days ago that they are bob pet , but for what I saw and I know they have neutral standings ...anyway - SCA , BUFU and the rest ... ok here I don't know what are the relationships between them and bob but for what I saw they'v been blue with bob for a long time and their ops participation its kinda low ...anyway they didn't payed rent or something so that means they weren't pets ... - etc
Pandemic = "We hate bob" KIA = non goons pets...but they can do **** without goon ZAF = non goons pets...but they pay "rent" NC = Few "Powerfull" Alliances From = They are goons's real pets right now . Goons didn't helped them in MAX started , not that they needed so much but goons didn't care in what situation NC was ... So ... with that been said every eve player / spammer think that : GOONS ARE THE S**** RIGHT NOW ! WE LOVE YOU GOONSWARM
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King Dave
Gallente The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:08:00 -
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Once i looked at a hedge. Whats your point?
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Vladic Ka
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:11:00 -
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Kenny are -A- pets.
Vote Mazzilliu for CSM! |

Pudgy McFudge
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Chelou
- ExE = pet cuz they fight hand in hand with bob ...doesn't matter they are a good alliance that can claim a space by there own , or not ? KIA = non goons pets...but they can do **** without goon
a quick look at the scoreboard...
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
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Zumbala
Gallente ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Vladic Ka Kenny are -A- pets.
Untrue. No one would accept as pet a near 2800 toons alliance who cannot built up fleet larger than 60 guys.
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Xenon Barinade
Caldari The Green Machine Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:28:00 -
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Pets are soo 2008, we are 'Bobs *****es', has a nice sound to it.
Buying honey and pollen from I1Y, 90% below Jita price feel free to keep contracting me ;)
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari International Multi-Player Consortium
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chelou NC = Few "Powerfull" Alliances From = They are goons's real pets right now . Goons didn't helped them in MAX started , not that they needed so much but goons didn't care in what situation NC was ... [/quote
I think you are a little off on this one. NC didn't need/want goon help at the time (but I am sure channels were open just in case). BoB gave up and went south to crack at goons after failing to crack the north. NC was rebuilding north and goons were creating a quagmire for kenny (then bob) by constant pos spam in one or two systems or something. Then bob was disbanded (woo), and everyone jumped on the train to delve. NC decided to help goons to quash bob as fast as possible. Then someone paid thug for new teeth and a mail order bride or something and now -a- takes it in the same place great allies like axe, fix, rise and xelas have before.
Originally by: Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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FauSt00
Minmatar Knowledge Stick Station Puppy Reprocessing Plant
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:49:00 -
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EVE has pets?
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IronGoldenEagle
Caldari Orchestrated Violence Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: FauSt00 EVE has pets?
Not for much longer judging by your alliance name.
O and the answer is you. You are a pet (the OP) congrats.
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OldPueblo
Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.21 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Vladic Ka Kenny are -A- pets.
This is a tough one though because AAA follows orders from Kenny.
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Mistress Suffering
Amarr Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: FauSt00 EVE has pets?
Alliance name is win.
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Terribad
Gallente Shade. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 21:16:00 -
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in b4 ****storm
-------------------------------------------------- the game |

Romale
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.21 21:49:00 -
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Pikachu i choose you!
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Cadius Vect
Caldari Domination.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Cadius Vect on 21/05/2009 22:26:28 Killing goons doesn't make you a kenny pet, shooting goons is fun! Killboard: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Cadius+Vect-kills.html |

RogueWing
Caldari Evolution KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.05.21 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cadius Vect Edited by: Cadius Vect on 21/05/2009 22:26:28 Killing goons doesn't make you a kenny pet, shooting goons is fun!
Goons are like slinky's.....
pretty worthless on their own, but it's fun to push them down stairs.
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Cadius Vect
Caldari Domination.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: RogueWing
Originally by: Cadius Vect Edited by: Cadius Vect on 21/05/2009 22:26:28 Killing goons doesn't make you a kenny pet, shooting goons is fun!
Goons are like slinky's.....
pretty worthless on their own, but it's fun to push them down stairs.
Well they make nice targets for a 4 month old player like myself who's just started to PvP -----------------------------------------------------------
Killboard: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Cadius+Vect-kills.html |

Shane Darman
Gallente Order of Nephilim Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.21 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: RogueWing
Originally by: Cadius Vect Edited by: Cadius Vect on 21/05/2009 22:26:28 Killing goons doesn't make you a kenny pet, shooting goons is fun!
Goons are like slinky's.....
pretty worthless on their own, but it's fun to push them down stairs.
Lol thats funny coming from kenny, -A- not here to hold your hand?
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Lasakywa
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.21 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Lasakywa on 21/05/2009 23:10:27 cat, hamster, etc...domestic animal
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squishinator
Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.21 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shane Darman
Originally by: RogueWing
Originally by: Cadius Vect Edited by: Cadius Vect on 21/05/2009 22:26:28 Killing goons doesn't make you a kenny pet, shooting goons is fun!
Goons are like slinky's.....
pretty worthless on their own, but it's fun to push them down stairs.
Lol thats funny coming from kenny, -A- not here to hold your hand?
Coming from an alliance that paid off just about every other alliance to get blue, truly amazing. Hope least don't have to pay IRON for space 
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Hunter GlobaGateways
Caldari The Edge Foundation Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.05.21 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Chelou Edited by: Chelou on 21/05/2009 20:17:36
To be short , this is a eveplayer mentality : Whats blue or related to Kenzoku = pet Whats blue or related to Goons = Individual alliances that don't give a f*** about standings Ex: - ExE = pet cuz they fight hand in hand with bob ...doesn't matter they are a good alliance that can claim a space by there own , or not ? - Stainwagon = bob pets cuz they agreed to be on bob's side ... doesn't matter they were bobs enemies for a long time - I even heard someone said that AAA its a bob pet now ! awesome - The Romanians I heard a few days ago that they are bob pet , but for what I saw and I know they have neutral standings ...anyway - SCA , BUFU and the rest ... ok here I don't know what are the relationships between them and bob but for what I saw they'v been blue with bob for a long time and their ops participation its kinda low ...anyway they didn't payed rent or something so that means they weren't pets ... - etc
Pandemic = "We hate bob" KIA = non goons pets...but they can't do **** without goon ZAF = non goons pets...but they pay "rent" NC = Few "Powerfull" Alliances From = They are goons's real pets right now . Goons didn't helped them in MAX started , not that they needed so much but goons didn't care in what situation NC was ... So ... with that been said every eve player / spammer think that : GOONS ARE THE S**** RIGHT NOW ! WE LOVE YOU GOONSWARM so the big question is : What is the real meaning of the word PET in this war/game?
ZAF pay rent?
ZAF does not pay rent rent in any form, that statement is 100% bull****, we pvp, its a PVP game, last time, over the last 7 years, it has been. Unless you call shooting NPC's fun.
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Scatim Helicon
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.22 00:06:00 -
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I'll bite.
A pet is an entity which exists in their area of 0.0 only at the whim of a larger power, in space that is granted by or rented from that larger power, and is subordinate to them in military and political matters.
RISE was pretty much the textbook example of a pet - they 'owned' the RIT triangle by virtue of the fact that they paid BoB rent for the privilege (6bn per month is the commonly accepted figure), they had taken no part in the military conquest of that space, and they were friendly or hostile to whoever BoB said they would be friendly or hostile to.
A junior partner is not the same as a pet - a small alliance which fights alongside a larger alliance to claim their own space is not the same as someone who shows up later and pays the conqueror for the systems.
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Cippalippus Hypocriticus
Caldari Eve Corporation 516
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Posted - 2009.05.22 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon I'll bite.
A pet is an entity which exists in their area of 0.0 only at the whim of a larger power, in space that is granted by or rented from that larger power, and is subordinate to them in military and political matters.
RISE was pretty much the textbook example of a pet - they 'owned' the RIT triangle by virtue of the fact that they paid BoB rent for the privilege (6bn per month is the commonly accepted figure), they had taken no part in the military conquest of that space, and they were friendly or hostile to whoever BoB said they would be friendly or hostile to.
A junior partner is not the same as a pet - a small alliance which fights alongside a larger alliance to claim their own space is not the same as someone who shows up later and pays the conqueror for the systems.
So by your defenition of word "pet" in EVE online 90% of NC aliances are pets of MM/TCF.Even RZR is pet by your term.
Also by your definition BOB,Kenny beaver whatever have junior partners and KIA is goon pet.
Epic:D:D:D.
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari Noir.
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Posted - 2009.05.22 07:47:00 -
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Essentially it's a feudal relationship. Pets are essentially vassals of a larger, more powerful alliance, to whom they pay rent and are required to contribute forces. The analogy only goes so far, however. In medieval times, vassals were in fact frequently more powerful than their lords, who would often be totally dependent upon their vassals to provide troops and collect taxes. In addition, vassals had noble titles and great wealth. They were, in fact, the aristocracy. Compare this to archetypal pet alliances, such as RISE, or Xelas, and Elitist Cowards, who ultimately had neither wealth, nor power, nor respect.

Please resize your sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal |

Dante Algermain
Gallente Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.05.22 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon I'll bite.
A pet is an entity which exists in their area of 0.0 only at the whim of a larger power, in space that is granted by or rented from that larger power, and is subordinate to them in military and political matters.
RISE was pretty much the textbook example of a pet - they 'owned' the RIT triangle by virtue of the fact that they paid BoB rent for the privilege (6bn per month is the commonly accepted figure), they had taken no part in the military conquest of that space, and they were friendly or hostile to whoever BoB said they would be friendly or hostile to.
A junior partner is not the same as a pet - a small alliance which fights alongside a larger alliance to claim their own space is not the same as someone who shows up later and pays the conqueror for the systems.
Excellent description there chap, well done, the first time i've agreed with a goon post ever.
Therefore in the current war the main protagonists, are not anyones pets just people with a shared common goal either killing BoB or killing Goons depending on your point of view.
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TuRtLe HeAd
Caldari KrayZ Inc Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.22 08:14:00 -
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TAMAGOTCHI !!! |

HouseMaster
Gallente Independent Fleet Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.05.22 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: RogueWing
Originally by: Cadius Vect Edited by: Cadius Vect on 21/05/2009 22:26:28 Killing goons doesn't make you a kenny pet, shooting goons is fun!
Goons are like slinky's.....
pretty worthless on their own, but it's fun to push them down stairs.
Okay, you know as well as I or anyone else that pushing Slinky's down stairs NEVER worked. Especially the way the commercial showed it. Just sayin.
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Scatim Helicon
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.22 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dante Algermain
Originally by: Scatim Helicon I'll bite.
A pet is an entity which exists in their area of 0.0 only at the whim of a larger power, in space that is granted by or rented from that larger power, and is subordinate to them in military and political matters.
RISE was pretty much the textbook example of a pet - they 'owned' the RIT triangle by virtue of the fact that they paid BoB rent for the privilege (6bn per month is the commonly accepted figure), they had taken no part in the military conquest of that space, and they were friendly or hostile to whoever BoB said they would be friendly or hostile to.
A junior partner is not the same as a pet - a small alliance which fights alongside a larger alliance to claim their own space is not the same as someone who shows up later and pays the conqueror for the systems.
Excellent description there chap, well done, the first time i've agreed with a goon post ever.
Therefore in the current war the main protagonists, are not anyones pets just people with a shared common goal either killing BoB or killing Goons depending on your point of view.
By definition the main players in any conflict are rarely the pets, because the pets are under the command of their owners and only doing what they're told to do.
The GBC/GKC certainly were pets by the definition above, up until the point where they lost their Querious and Period Basis stations - at this point they have no territory of their own, either granted or fought for, so whether one could describe them as pets would depend on whether they're operating under orders from Kenzoku or on their own initiative beside Kenzoku.
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Sirius A
Caldari StarFleet Enterprises StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.22 11:10:00 -
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you might have a point if only those were the only groups in EVE...they are not thus this thread is FAIL. "I am expendable" |

Doctor Oda
Minmatar Domination.
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Posted - 2009.05.22 12:05:00 -
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a pet is what NC are to goons.
They fight there masters battle for no materal reward.
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BurntCornMuffin
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.22 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: BurntCornMuffin on 22/05/2009 15:26:58
Originally by: Doctor Oda a pet is what NC are to goons.
They fight there masters battle for no materal reward.
No, my dear Kenny alt, that's an ally, a brosef, a friend, if you will.
Pets pay rent for the "privilege" of holding space they were given by a master alliance.
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