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Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.24 16:45:00 - [1] Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 24/05/2009 16:47:53 OK thought this would be interesting, when petitioning, or something weird happens you get told its a game mechanic..Hmm but i never heard that before you think? Are these hidden ones that CCP dont tell you or just expect you to know.. So be good I think for people to list all those things that you didnt know was a game mechanic but was.. Mine for example was when you undock theres the 30 second timer, however you can still be locked and killed before being able to redock! Thats fine.. However once your ship dies your timer then resets AGAIN for your pod, so you still cant dock thus allowing you to be killed again (well actually podded) this apparently is a game mechanic! WTF so CCP implement a game mechanic, where you (worse if station has been bubbled) you cant warp away that your are guaranteed to die not only lose your ship but be podded! So everyone watch out for that one.. So be nice to list all others that CCP dont quite tell you about..
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.05.24 16:51:00 - [2] Strange you've never encountered a session change timer in eve before tbh Must be the only one __________________
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.05.24 16:54:00 - [3] Thanks for telling us, but everyone knows this.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.05.24 16:54:00 - [4] Quote: Mr Prosser said: 'You were quite entitled to make any suggestions or protests at the appropriate time you know.' 'Appropriate time?' hooted Arthur. 'Appropriate time? The first I knew about it was when a workman arrived at my home yesterday. I asked him if he'd come to clean the windows and he said no he'd come to demolish the house. He didn't tell me straight away of course. Oh no. First he wiped a couple of windows and charged me a fiver. Then he told me.' 'But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months.' 'Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn't exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them had you? I mean like actually telling anybody or anything.' 'But the plans were on display ...' 'On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.' 'That's the display department.' 'With a torch.' 'Ah, well the lights had probably gone.' 'So had the stairs.' 'But look, you found the notice didn't you?' 'Yes,' said Arthur, 'yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.' Well, you see, it's not a secret thing, you just have to know where to look ! EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.24 16:56:00 - [5] Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 24/05/2009 16:58:21 Originally by: Kappas. Strange you've never encountered a session change timer in eve before tbh Must be the only one It isnt a session timer clever ****..but nice try. also its about the reset of the timer after getting killed, so you think its right that ccp implement this so your guaranteed to die?
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.24 16:57:00 - [6] Originally by: Akita T Quote: Mr Prosser said: 'You were quite entitled to make any suggestions or protests at the appropriate time you know.' 'Appropriate time?' hooted Arthur. 'Appropriate time? The first I knew about it was when a workman arrived at my home yesterday. I asked him if he'd come to clean the windows and he said no he'd come to demolish the house. He didn't tell me straight away of course. Oh no. First he wiped a couple of windows and charged me a fiver. Then he told me.' 'But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months.' 'Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn't exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them had you? I mean like actually telling anybody or anything.' 'But the plans were on display ...' 'On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.' 'That's the display department.' 'With a torch.' 'Ah, well the lights had probably gone.' 'So had the stairs.' 'But look, you found the notice didn't you?' 'Yes,' said Arthur, 'yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.' Well, you see, it's not a secret thing, you just have to know where to look ! Well show us then?
5higsy Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2009.05.24 16:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Kappas. Strange you've never encountered a session change timer in eve before tbh Must be the only one It isnt a session timer clever ****..but nice try Yes it is. Join "C&P" ingame channel for win!
Jana Clant New Dawn Tribe New Eden Research	Posted - 2009.05.24 16:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Akita T Quote: Mr Prosser said: 'You were quite entitled to make any suggestions or protests at the appropriate time you know.' 'Appropriate time?' hooted Arthur. 'Appropriate time? The first I knew about it was when a workman arrived at my home yesterday. I asked him if he'd come to clean the windows and he said no he'd come to demolish the house. He didn't tell me straight away of course. Oh no. First he wiped a couple of windows and charged me a fiver. Then he told me.' 'But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months.' 'Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn't exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them had you? I mean like actually telling anybody or anything.' 'But the plans were on display ...' 'On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.' 'That's the display department.' 'With a torch.' 'Ah, well the lights had probably gone.' 'So had the stairs.' 'But look, you found the notice didn't you?' 'Yes,' said Arthur, 'yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.' Well, you see, it's not a secret thing, you just have to know where to look ! Well show us then? I don't think you 'got' Akita's post. New Eden Research, we have labs! And cookies!
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.24 17:00:00 - [9] Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 24/05/2009 17:00:25 its not about my issues its about game mechanics ppl dont know about - and please stop trolling ****e...if yuou aint got anything constructive to say GTFO
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.24 17:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Jana Clant Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Akita T Quote: Mr Prosser said: 'You were quite entitled to make any suggestions or protests at the appropriate time you know.' 'Appropriate time?' hooted Arthur. 'Appropriate time? The first I knew about it was when a workman arrived at my home yesterday. I asked him if he'd come to clean the windows and he said no he'd come to demolish the house. He didn't tell me straight away of course. Oh no. First he wiped a couple of windows and charged me a fiver. Then he told me.' 'But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months.' 'Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn't exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them had you? I mean like actually telling anybody or anything.' 'But the plans were on display ...' 'On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.' 'That's the display department.' 'With a torch.' 'Ah, well the lights had probably gone.' 'So had the stairs.' 'But look, you found the notice didn't you?' 'Yes,' said Arthur, 'yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.' Well, you see, it's not a secret thing, you just have to know where to look ! Well show us then? I don't think you 'got' Akita's post. lol i do actually i was being sarcy! the point is you aint gonna find it until it happens! THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE POST!!

Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.05.24 17:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 24/05/2009 17:00:25 its not about my issues its about game mechanics ppl dont know about - and please stop trolling ****e...if yuou aint got anything constructive to say GTFO You argued that a session change timer wasn't a session change timer, its not trolling you were just proven wrong, the session change timer resets every time there is a change to your session, getting your ship blown up, thats a session change, undocking, thats a session change, forming a gang, thats a session change, how you managed to ignore this simple fact is beyond me so i endorse the flaming of this thread if people see fit :)
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.05.24 17:09:00 - [12] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Well show us then? Old KBpage Googlecache http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Session_change_timer Not VERY cleartext, but, meh... Quote: Every time your character location is modified, you will experience what is named a "session change". Session changes prevent you from switching to another location again for thirty seconds and your request will be delayed when such a situation occurs. A character location may be anything linked to his/her physical state and not simply a geographical change. For instance, docking, ejecting, changing ships, being pod-killed, losing your vessel, jump cloning, jumping through a gate, joining/leaving a gang and/or changing roles within a gang, are all actions that trigger the timer. Warping, destroying objects, throttling in space, activating a module or being shot at are however not session changes as your character attributes stay the same. ...they don't specifically include "undocking" in that, but it's relatively clear it applies. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Wulf Tarkin	Posted - 2009.05.24 18:19:00 - [13] Has nobody else noticed that Hermosa has sand in a very intimate place, and it's chafing?
Trathen Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.24 18:34:00 - [14] Sounds like CCP did tell you about it in quite an appropriate manner. Ship exploding isn't loud enough? _
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.24 18:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Wulf Tarkin Has nobody else noticed that Hermosa has sand in a very intimate place, and it's chafing? god i hate it when i get sand in my eye irrating as hell if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
Quantar Raalsken Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:00:00 - [16] Edited by: Quantar Raalsken on 24/05/2009 19:01:25 warp to planet 1.... warp back and dock.... solved EDIT: and yes all ppl above are for the most part correct and not trolling...its session timer...turn it on in the ESC menu....it shows up as a tiny circle thingy in the top left ======= Homeworld Hamachi Network
Miriel Amarinth	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:04:00 - [17] Edited by: Miriel Amarinth on 24/05/2009 19:05:13 Originally by: Hermosa Diosas OK thought this would be interesting, when petitioning, or something weird happens you get told its a game mechanic.. It's one of the most standard replies in any MMO support - you're not supposed to take it seriously or personally. You just have to be persistent and convince them it's worth the time to look into it. One of my favourite MMO support stock responses of all time is the "sorry, but we cannot discuss game mechanics" reply when you send in a bug report. I could swear they were just running a question mark detection script to help them with selecting auto-responses, because if you so much as used a single ? you'd get that reply...even in a bug report.
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:18:00 - [18] on the bright side, its only somthing you need to learn once :) its hard to forget
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:38:00 - [19] Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Edited by: Quantar Raalsken on 24/05/2009 19:01:25 warp to planet 1.... warp back and dock.... solved EDIT: and yes all ppl above are for the most part correct and not trolling...its session timer...turn it on in the ESC menu....it shows up as a tiny circle thingy in the top left Please read my first post again..when the station is bubbled you cant warp away can you! So heres the scenario You undock from the station theres a session timer fine undocking timer what ever.. OK so within that time you cannot redock..however a hostile ship CAN lock you within this time and destroy your ship..now yes if the station isnt bubbled you maybe able to warp away however if you do have a fast locking ship that isnt a dictor or hic or station isnt bubbled then its usually warp scrammed you anyway so you cant warp anyway. So before you can redock if you not in a heavy tank ship then you die.. so then once you die you then it RESETS the timer so you cant dock again, meanwhile the hostile can again lock you same scenario when in ship and then you get podded again before you can even dock..therefore you are GUARANTEED to die.. So your telling me that you accept this game mechanic as fair and just?? Seriously?? Is that what you are telling me?? if your happy then hey good for you but im certainly not.. Also the post is about where are these game mechanics documentation information found? You wont go look for it unless it happened, but CCP expect you to know it? Now for all the trolls who have experienced that and go ooo i knew well yes because of experience, not because its written in the handbook! This post was also to help people in the game, so you Knew about a game mechanic you could post it and help others before it did happen to them. But no as usual with the eve community all you can do is come out with sarcy comments, nothing constructive but try inflate your own egos by posting utter garbage.. clap clap i applaud you...
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Edited by: Quantar Raalsken on 24/05/2009 19:01:25 warp to planet 1.... warp back and dock.... solved EDIT: and yes all ppl above are for the most part correct and not trolling...its session timer...turn it on in the ESC menu....it shows up as a tiny circle thingy in the top left Please read my first post again..when the station is bubbled you cant warp away can you! So heres the scenario You undock from the station theres a session timer fine undocking timer what ever.. OK so within that time you cannot redock..however a hostile ship CAN lock you within this time and destroy your ship..now yes if the station isnt bubbled you maybe able to warp away however if you do have a fast locking ship that isnt a dictor or hic or station isnt bubbled then its usually warp scrammed you anyway so you cant warp anyway. So before you can redock if you not in a heavy tank ship then you die.. so then once you die you then it RESETS the timer so you cant dock again, meanwhile the hostile can again lock you same scenario when in ship and then you get podded again before you can even dock..therefore you are GUARANTEED to die.. So your telling me that you accept this game mechanic as fair and just?? Seriously?? Is that what you are telling me?? if your happy then hey good for you but im certainly not.. Also the post is about where are these game mechanics documentation information found? You wont go look for it unless it happened, but CCP expect you to know it? Now for all the trolls who have experienced that and go ooo i knew well yes because of experience, not because its written in the handbook! This post was also to help people in the game, so you Knew about a game mechanic you could post it and help others before it did happen to them. But no as usual with the eve community all you can do is come out with sarcy comments, nothing constructive but try inflate your own egos by posting utter garbage.. clap clap i applaud you... Sounds like that's working as intended there old chap.

Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Edited by: Quantar Raalsken on 24/05/2009 19:01:25 warp to planet 1.... warp back and dock.... solved EDIT: and yes all ppl above are for the most part correct and not trolling...its session timer...turn it on in the ESC menu....it shows up as a tiny circle thingy in the top left Please read my first post again..when the station is bubbled you cant warp away can you! So heres the scenario You undock from the station theres a session timer fine undocking timer what ever.. OK so within that time you cannot redock..however a hostile ship CAN lock you within this time and destroy your ship..now yes if the station isnt bubbled you maybe able to warp away however if you do have a fast locking ship that isnt a dictor or hic or station isnt bubbled then its usually warp scrammed you anyway so you cant warp anyway. So before you can redock if you not in a heavy tank ship then you die.. so then once you die you then it RESETS the timer so you cant dock again, meanwhile the hostile can again lock you same scenario when in ship and then you get podded again before you can even dock..therefore you are GUARANTEED to die.. So your telling me that you accept this game mechanic as fair and just?? Seriously?? Is that what you are telling me?? if your happy then hey good for you but im certainly not.. Also the post is about where are these game mechanics documentation information found? You wont go look for it unless it happened, but CCP expect you to know it? Now for all the trolls who have experienced that and go ooo i knew well yes because of experience, not because its written in the handbook! This post was also to help people in the game, so you Knew about a game mechanic you could post it and help others before it did happen to them. But no as usual with the eve community all you can do is come out with sarcy comments, nothing constructive but try inflate your own egos by posting utter garbage.. clap clap i applaud you... Sounds like that's working as intended there old chap. Yeah im not saying its not working mate but you saying that your happy that there is a scenerio your guaranteed to die in? thats all im asking...if so then that amazes me
Rilwar BlackStar Industrial	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:47:00 - [22] Edited by: Rilwar on 24/05/2009 19:47:56 BREAKING NEWS BULLETIN Bubbles are meant to fsck your day up. They are meant to restrict travel in a near-impossible to circumvent method. Getting bubbled on a station undock? Sucks to be you then, stop undocking. Working as intended. Move along. Would you like to know more? Mitnal was here.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Edited by: Quantar Raalsken on 24/05/2009 19:01:25 warp to planet 1.... warp back and dock.... solved EDIT: and yes all ppl above are for the most part correct and not trolling...its session timer...turn it on in the ESC menu....it shows up as a tiny circle thingy in the top left Please read my first post again..when the station is bubbled you cant warp away can you! So heres the scenario You undock from the station theres a session timer fine undocking timer what ever.. OK so within that time you cannot redock..however a hostile ship CAN lock you within this time and destroy your ship..now yes if the station isnt bubbled you maybe able to warp away however if you do have a fast locking ship that isnt a dictor or hic or station isnt bubbled then its usually warp scrammed you anyway so you cant warp anyway. So before you can redock if you not in a heavy tank ship then you die.. so then once you die you then it RESETS the timer so you cant dock again, meanwhile the hostile can again lock you same scenario when in ship and then you get podded again before you can even dock..therefore you are GUARANTEED to die.. So your telling me that you accept this game mechanic as fair and just?? Seriously?? Is that what you are telling me?? if your happy then hey good for you but im certainly not.. Also the post is about where are these game mechanics documentation information found? You wont go look for it unless it happened, but CCP expect you to know it? Now for all the trolls who have experienced that and go ooo i knew well yes because of experience, not because its written in the handbook! This post was also to help people in the game, so you Knew about a game mechanic you could post it and help others before it did happen to them. But no as usual with the eve community all you can do is come out with sarcy comments, nothing constructive but try inflate your own egos by posting utter garbage.. clap clap i applaud you... Sounds like that's working as intended there old chap. Yeah im not saying its not working mate but you saying that your happy that there is a scenerio your guaranteed to die in? thats all im asking...if so then that amazes me Ah, well either way it's a bit of a "*******s, i'm buggered situation". Ultimately it comes to a case of staying docked until they move, waiting 'til your backup arrives or undocking and taking them on and accepting the fact you'll be crunched I guess. Generally I think it comes under the risk vs reward catagory, you undocked willing to show yourselves to the hostiles, lost your ship and the price of which also was your capsule. I didn't know you could bubble up stations though.
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:50:00 - [24] Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 24/05/2009 19:55:34 well not truly correct you cant see out of a station can you, once you undock your pretty fecked really..so basically you should wait until no one is in the system to undock..perhaps we should paint windows on the stations so i can take a peek.. oh and station bubbling .oh yes.... dont want to argue guys just seriously surprised your happy with something your gonna lose a ship and get podded guaranteed wit no possibility of escaping..
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.05.24 19:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Wulf Tarkin Has nobody else noticed that Hermosa has sand in a very intimate place, and it's chafing? god i hate it when i get sand in my eye irrating as hell Yeah me too, I can sometimes end up spending all day fiddling with myself to try and get that sand out my eye again. I don't know how it gets right down in there.
Sadayiel Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.05.24 20:01:00 - [26] with all my respect. It's 0.0, you are mean to not trust a warm welcome just a warm goodbye. if you are alone then try to outsmart them, ppl is capable of anything to get even a single shuttle kill. get intel (usually corps or alliances in 0.0 know who is doing what in they areas). -------------------------------------- You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in ruttin' command here.
Krystal Vernet Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2009.05.24 20:04:00 - [27] Going from ship to pod, either by choice or force, is a session change, btw. That's why the timer resets.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.24 20:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Thanks for telling us, but everyone knows this.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.24 20:13:00 - [29] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas So your telling me that you accept this game mechanic as fair and just?? Seriously?? Anything that reduces docking games is a good thing and should actually be expanded on. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Pater Peccavi Minmatar Cadre Assault Force	Posted - 2009.05.24 20:15:00 - [30] I'm more **ed off at the "game mechanics" I discover when CCP gets rid of them. Implants used to effect skill training time even after being podded? Good thing I found out by reading the patch notes where CCP nerfed that. Originally by:** hi go Let the human be very annoyed! Another person is very repugnant!

Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2009.05.25 14:58:00 - [31] OP, you are terrible at eve. I feel so sorry for you i'm going to let you in on a little secret that 99% of the eve playerbase already knows: You are invulnerable for 30 seconds after you undock, exactly as long as your session timer lasts. You can break invulnerability by activating any module, or moving your ship (the dock command tells your ship to approach the station and dock, thus it moves your ship, and breaks invuln) When you undock, hold down CTRL, and Press space a few times, until you see "ship stopping" message appear. Do not press any other button, do not click anything, do not activate any module. Wait until your session change timer ends (it's in the top left corner, add it in the options screen). Click dock. Congrats, you can never be killed at a station again before you can redock, unless it's a death trap station. The opinions expressed in my posts do represent my corp -------------------------- NOTR
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.25 15:00:00 - [32] Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 25/05/2009 15:00:49 Originally by: Rajere OP, you are terrible at eve. I feel so sorry for you i'm going to let you in on a little secret that 99% of the eve playerbase already knows: You are invulnerable for 30 seconds after you undock, exactly as long as your session timer lasts. You can break invulnerability by activating any module, or moving your ship (the dock command tells your ship to approach the station and dock, thus it moves your ship, and breaks invuln) When you undock, hold down CTRL, and Press space a few times, until you see "ship stopping" message appear. Do not press any other button, do not click anything, do not activate any module. Wait until your session change timer ends (it's in the top left corner, add it in the options screen). Click dock. Congrats, you can never be killed at a station again before you can redock, unless it's a death trap station. YOUR ALREADY DEAD BY THEN!!! IF YOUR NOT IN TANKED SHIP!!! JESUS CHRIST!! DONT YOU LISTEN!!!!!!!
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2009.05.25 15:03:00 - [33] ah a troll, gotcha. The opinions expressed in my posts do represent my corp -------------------------- NOTR
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.25 15:03:00 - [34] Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 25/05/2009 15:03:45 Originally by: Rajere ah a troll, gotcha. you mean you now look utterly stupid... you trolled lol the post was dead...
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.05.25 15:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas the post was dead... oh, I thought your ship was dead FREE! jumpclone service - Now 416 locations!
Tippia Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.25 15:08:00 - [36] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas YOUR ALREADY DEAD BY THEN!!! IF YOUR NOT IN TANKED SHIP!!! JESUS CHRIST!! DONT YOU LISTEN!!!!!!! That's the whole point. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Trellish The Perfect Storm Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.05.25 15:13:00 - [37] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 25/05/2009 15:00:49 Originally by: Rajere OP, you are terrible at eve. I feel so sorry for you i'm going to let you in on a little secret that 99% of the eve playerbase already knows: You are invulnerable for 30 seconds after you undock, exactly as long as your session timer lasts. You can break invulnerability by activating any module, or moving your ship (the dock command tells your ship to approach the station and dock, thus it moves your ship, and breaks invuln) When you undock, hold down CTRL, and Press space a few times, until you see "ship stopping" message appear. Do not press any other button, do not click anything, do not activate any module. Wait until your session change timer ends (it's in the top left corner, add it in the options screen). Click dock. Congrats, you can never be killed at a station again before you can redock, unless it's a death trap station. YOUR ALREADY DEAD BY THEN!!! IF YOUR NOT IN TANKED SHIP!!! JESUS CHRIST!! DONT YOU LISTEN!!!!!!! WOW... holy crap!!! Rajere gave a serious (and completely correct) answer. Since you obviously only speak in all caps, I'll try to communicate the same way so you understand. YOU ARE NOT ALREADY DEAD BY THEN. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN REMAIN INVULNERABLE ALL THE WAY THROUGH UNTIL YOU CAN DOCK. BEING IN A TANKED SHIP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. YOU'RE ONLY XXXX'ED IF YOU CHOSE TO UNDOCK INTO A BUBBLE ON A DEATHTRAP STATION. (at which point, you're pretty loltastic already) Likely enough Rajere was right and it's just a troll
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.25 15:22:00 - [38] Originally by: Trellish Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 25/05/2009 15:00:49 Originally by: Rajere OP, you are terrible at eve. I feel so sorry for you i'm going to let you in on a little secret that 99% of the eve playerbase already knows: You are invulnerable for 30 seconds after you undock, exactly as long as your session timer lasts. You can break invulnerability by activating any module, or moving your ship (the dock command tells your ship to approach the station and dock, thus it moves your ship, and breaks invuln) When you undock, hold down CTRL, and Press space a few times, until you see "ship stopping" message appear. Do not press any other button, do not click anything, do not activate any module. Wait until your session change timer ends (it's in the top left corner, add it in the options screen). Click dock. Congrats, you can never be killed at a station again before you can redock, unless it's a death trap station. YOUR ALREADY DEAD BY THEN!!! IF YOUR NOT IN TANKED SHIP!!! JESUS CHRIST!! DONT YOU LISTEN!!!!!!! WOW... holy crap!!! Rajere gave a serious (and completely correct) answer. Since you obviously only speak in all caps, I'll try to communicate the same way so you understand. YOU ARE NOT ALREADY DEAD BY THEN. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN REMAIN INVULNERABLE ALL THE WAY THROUGH UNTIL YOU CAN DOCK. BEING IN A TANKED SHIP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. YOU'RE ONLY XXXX'ED IF YOU CHOSE TO UNDOCK INTO A BUBBLE ON A DEATHTRAP STATION. (at which point, you're pretty loltastic already) Likely enough Rajere was right and it's just a troll EXACTLY!!! IT WAS ABOUT BEING IN A BUBBLE READ THE POST!!!! HOWEVER IF YOUR LOCKED BY SAY AN INTERCEPTER AND SCRAMMED YOUR STILL FECKED....CAPS OUT! STUPID LITTLE BOY
Irongut M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2009.05.25 17:21:00 - [39] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Trellish Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 25/05/2009 15:00:49 Originally by: Rajere OP, you are terrible at eve. I feel so sorry for you i'm going to let you in on a little secret that 99% of the eve playerbase already knows: You are invulnerable for 30 seconds after you undock, exactly as long as your session timer lasts. You can break invulnerability by activating any module, or moving your ship (the dock command tells your ship to approach the station and dock, thus it moves your ship, and breaks invuln) When you undock, hold down CTRL, and Press space a few times, until you see "ship stopping" message appear. Do not press any other button, do not click anything, do not activate any module. Wait until your session change timer ends (it's in the top left corner, add it in the options screen). Click dock. Congrats, you can never be killed at a station again before you can redock, unless it's a death trap station. YOUR ALREADY DEAD BY THEN!!! IF YOUR NOT IN TANKED SHIP!!! JESUS CHRIST!! DONT YOU LISTEN!!!!!!! WOW... holy crap!!! Rajere gave a serious (and completely correct) answer. Since you obviously only speak in all caps, I'll try to communicate the same way so you understand. YOU ARE NOT ALREADY DEAD BY THEN. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN REMAIN INVULNERABLE ALL THE WAY THROUGH UNTIL YOU CAN DOCK. BEING IN A TANKED SHIP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. YOU'RE ONLY XXXX'ED IF YOU CHOSE TO UNDOCK INTO A BUBBLE ON A DEATHTRAP STATION. (at which point, you're pretty loltastic already) Likely enough Rajere was right and it's just a troll EXACTLY!!! IT WAS ABOUT BEING IN A BUBBLE READ THE POST!!!! HOWEVER IF YOUR LOCKED BY SAY AN INTERCEPTER AND SCRAMMED YOUR STILL FECKED....CAPS OUT! STUPID LITTLE BOY Stupid little girl, you're the one that needs to learn to read. Let me spell it out for you... Session timer 30s Invulnerable to being locked 30s So you can't be locked and scrambled by say an Interceptor, nor can you be shot and killed while you wait for the session timer to expire. This is provided you do nothing to end your invulnerability. So as the man above said PRESS CTRL+SPACE AND NOTHING ELSE then dock when your session timer ends. This is something the rest of us have known for years. You're just ignorant, stupid and unable to read. You'll probably ignore the fact that I've told you how to work with this game mechanic like you have the posts above but hey you'll still suck and I'll still be able to laugh at you.
Mr Reason	Posted - 2009.05.25 17:35:00 - [40] Trying avoid the drama caps; OP should do well to read and reread Irongut's last post. Especially the part where he states to not touch or do ANYTHING (like, you know, align or something) apart from hitting control+space to stop your ship.

Doomed Predator The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.05.25 17:39:00 - [41] Maybe if you weren't daft you would just mash the redock button untill it let you in instead of moving You'd think people would figure this out since the char is from 2006
Ami Nia Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.25 17:47:00 - [42] Confirming the OP needs to learn how to read. When undocking from normal stations nobody can lock you for 30 seconds UNLESS you do something (move, target, activate a module, try to warp. anything EXCEPT stopping your ship with ctrl-space). Therefore no matter how many bubbles are there, just ctrl-space and do nothing else. Do not try to redock before the timer ends. Of course DO redock the very moment it expires. Only when you undock from a deathtrap station things are not good, if it's camped. But unless you (or all your corp mates) are idiots, you always have someone scouting and or supporting you from outside the station if it's that kind of station. Else you would not have docked there to begin with.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.25 17:47:00 - [43] So Hermosa, what we are telling you is that you can avoid people locking you and killing you. The way to avoid it is to not activate a module or try to move. I didn't know that cutting speed was legal, but apparently it is. So yes. You can't dock within 30 seconds of you undocking. But! You are invulnerable in those thirty seconds (as in, you can not be locked and you can not die), unless you activate a module or try to steer your ship in any way other than setting speed to 0m/s using CTRL+SPACE. Even if you are bubbled, you are safe, normally. Only exception is if you were in one of those stations that kicks you outside of docking range. Then you are in trouble.
Ami Nia Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.25 17:50:00 - [44] Originally by: Doomed Predator Maybe if you weren't daft you would just mash the redock button untill it let you in instead of moving Do that and you die. Trying to redock before the session timer expires makes you targetable (and still fails to redock you).
Doomed Predator The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.05.25 21:10:00 - [45] Originally by: Ami Nia Originally by: Doomed Predator Maybe if you weren't daft you would just mash the redock button untill it let you in instead of moving Do that and you die. Trying to redock before the session timer expires makes you targetable (and still fails to redock you). It doesn't,as soon as you align/target/turn on a mod you become targetable. You can just spam the dock button and you'll be ok
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.25 21:12:00 - [46] no topic still makes it available to read but the people who know how to get here :)
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2009.05.26 09:24:00 - [47] Originally by: Doomed Predator Originally by: Ami Nia Originally by: Doomed Predator Maybe if you weren't daft you would just mash the redock button untill it let you in instead of moving Do that and you die. Trying to redock before the session timer expires makes you targetable (and still fails to redock you). It doesn't,as soon as you align/target/turn on a mod you become targetable. You can just spam the dock button and you'll be ok lol back to Eve University for you.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.26 09:37:00 - [48] Originally by: Armoured C no topic still makes it available to read but the people who know how to get here :) …and in fact draws people in because it generally signifies an OP that has been thoroughly schooled and who's now trying to hide this fact, and people want to join in on the laughter. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2009.05.26 09:59:00 - [49] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Armoured C no topic still makes it available to read but the people who know how to get here :) àand in fact draws people in because it generally signifies an OP that has been thoroughly schooled and who's now trying to hide this fact, and people want to join in on the laughter. are you serious? i just cant be bothered listening to the dross...carry on for all i care...noones listening..shame i used to be in raddick corp along time ago, good guys..shame they have one idiot thats spoiling it..
Tippia Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.26 10:06:00 - [50] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas i just cant be bothered listening to the dross...carry on for all i care...noones listening.. You choice and your loss, seeing as how your (non)issue is resolved quite neatly. Listening is good for you, you know… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki

Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.05.26 11:05:00 - [51] I just find it amazing the thread went on this long despite older and more knowledgable players pointing out the obvious to him, the char may be old but i suspect the pilot behind it might not be from that tiem ;)
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.26 11:08:00 - [52] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Armoured C no topic still makes it available to read but the people who know how to get here :) àand in fact draws people in because it generally signifies an OP that has been thoroughly schooled and who's now trying to hide this fact, and people want to join in on the laughter. are you serious? i just cant be bothered listening to the dross...carry on for all i care...noones listening..shame i used to be in raddick corp along time ago, good guys..shame they have one idiot thats spoiling it.. obvisouly not if you left it :P lolololl OFFLINE[ONLINE]
Lothros Andastar Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.26 11:33:00 - [53] I support this Product and/or Statement!


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