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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.26 03:46:00 -
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I remember awhile back majority opinion was that they sucked, due to lack of cargo for lo, and other things. Has any of that changed?
If not, what would be needed to make black ops sexy? __________________________________________________________
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Ahz
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Posted - 2009.05.26 05:27:00 -
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Linkage |

Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.05.26 06:11:00 -
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Black Ops Threat Level was recently upgraded to Hot Pink. |

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.05.26 06:25:00 -
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They still somewhat suck I suppose. The HotPinkÖ changes really only matter in 0.0 and even there the time the covert portals are open is so short that any amount of lag can ruin it.
But it has a definite purpose now which is awesome, does seem like CCP are digging their own grave by adding new ships to complement the inherently flawed sovereignty mechanic. The work they need to do keeps increasing 
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Warrio
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.26 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Black Ops Threat Level was recently upgraded to Hot Pink.
Awesome. sXe |

SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.26 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ahz Linkage
Thx for the linkage.
Idea that I didn't see there that just occurred to me: allow cov cyno pop while cloaked. Heh - now THAT'S a hot drop. __________________________________________________________
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Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.05.26 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: SheriffFruitfly
Originally by: Ahz Linkage
Thx for the linkage.
Idea that I didn't see there that just occurred to me: allow cov cyno pop while cloaked. Heh - now THAT'S a hot drop.
Someone else already posted that in that 16+ page thread. It was a stupid idea when they posted it as well.
The opinions expressed in my posts do represent my corp -------------------------- NOTR
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Ahz
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Posted - 2009.05.26 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ahz on 26/05/2009 17:20:33 I'm starting to think Rajere is right. The Black Ops is currently correctly balanced.
It's the Covert Jump Portal Generator that's broken.
The way NOTR uses the Black Ops it's damn near invincible. But I'd always seen it in a logistics and support role. This still doesn't exist.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 18:06:00 -
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I think black ops suck. They need a major boost. I really hope someone agrees with me, like Rajere's friend did for him.
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Rubber Ducky
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.26 18:07:00 -
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Im starting to think Waxau is right. Too.
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Ahz
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Posted - 2009.05.26 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ahz on 26/05/2009 20:04:30
Originally by: Rubber Ducky Im starting to think Waxau is right. Too.
Waxau's alt unmasked.
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Turin
Caldari Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.26 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: SheriffFruitfly I remember awhile back majority opinion was that they sucked, due to lack of cargo for lo, and other things. Has any of that changed?
If not, what would be needed to make black ops sexy?
No, black ops still totally suck, and they are only worth flying to create a covert cyno. Nothing more.
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TheAlt1
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Posted - 2009.05.27 00:52:00 -
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Make local delayed in 0.0
That is all.
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Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.05.27 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ahz Edited by: Ahz on 26/05/2009 17:20:33 I'm starting to think Rajere is right. The Black Ops is currently correctly balanced.
It's the Covert Jump Portal Generator that's broken.
The way NOTR uses the Black Ops it's damn near invincible. But I'd always seen it in a logistics and support role. This still doesn't exist.
The ships themselves are fine, as soon as they get their long overdue fuel bay, they'll be set. The CJPG is also fine currently, and assuming that fuel bay is large enough to support bridging, they'll be set too. Your confusion comes from intermingling the ship's two unique abilities into a single role, which is silly. The two abilities can be used in conjuntion, but only if you have a spare blackops fit for bridging, otherwise the two abilities are used to fulfill different roles.
They are not invincible, you can still lose them if you f*ck up or grossly miscalculate a situation. But yeah, it's very rare that you lose them, the only ones we've lost have been when we jumped them into situations we knew we had no business jumping them into. If we weren't so careless with them we'd have 0 losses, but being cautious and timid is no way to play eve. Sure your efficiency is better (not really, you miss out on tons of fights but w/e) but at the cost making PVP boring. If you play this game for PVP, then making PVP boring is the last thing you wanna do. Plated trimark'd geddon scouts ftw.
The opinions expressed in my posts do represent my corp -------------------------- NOTR
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