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CCP Navigator C C P	Posted - 2009.05.26 12:05:00 - [1] EVE Online Apocrypha 1.2.3 deployment is now live and Tranquility is open for business. This deployment focuses on a critical fix that was having an effect on players jumping through stargates along with some other fixes. We would encourage anyone who is experiencing any game play issues to submit a bug report and we will investigate the matter as soon as possible. Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Games, Create a petition on a forum issue.

Sky Grunthor Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment	Posted - 2009.05.26 13:52:00 - [2] Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 26/05/2009 13:53:18 Warp disrupt bubbles will now keep you from warping out of them, but they no longer grab someone out of warp. We tried this several times. If a bubble is on a gate and you warp to the gate at range (say 50km) you will conveniently land on the gate at that range. If you warp to a bubbled gate at 0km, you will land on the edge of the bubble, just like always. If there's an in-line bubble and you warp to the gate at 0km, you will get caught off the gate on the edge of the bubble. However, if you warp at any range to a bubbled gate, you will not get caught by the bubble. oh and 1st. ------------------------------------------------- Search: Sky Grunthor
Capt Kaos	Posted - 2009.05.26 13:55:00 - [3] Warp disrupt bubbles no longer pull ships out of warp if they warp in at range (30-100km). We tested this extensively- if a ship warps to a bubbled gate at range it is no longer pulled into the bubble. You still cannot warp out of the bubble, and if you warp to a bubbled gate at 0km you'll get caught on the edge of the bubble. However, if you warp to the gate at range (30-100km) you'll land at range, nowhere near the warp disrupt bubble.
El Covah LOCKDOWN. Cult of War	Posted - 2009.05.26 13:58:00 - [4] Is there a reason for this new feature? Or did CCP just fixed something what was not broken (again)?
Shirley C Amarr BulletProof Monks Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.05.26 14:27:00 - [5] I am amazed that after 2 hours, CCP still have not replied to the bug above. Even an acknowledgement would suffice!
Smooth Kitty	Posted - 2009.05.26 14:31:00 - [6] the warp bubble bug has been happening for over a week since the last patch. For some reason no one has acknowledged it nor made any attempt to fix it.
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2009.05.26 15:00:00 - [7] Client files don't match the files in the update... sigh How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
PJRiddick	Posted - 2009.05.26 15:08:00 - [8] CCP,....is there going to be any fixes for the sound issue? Its kind of dishartening to go into a mission and NOT HERE A DARN THING,..NO GUNS,..NO MISSILES,..NO SWOOSH,..NO BOOM! NOTHING! I was in mission the other night and even the bud that i was in with commented about it,..."Kind of quite huh" I remember a year ago when i got into the game, i really liked the sound effects, really made the game exciting, interesting. One of my corp mates listens to other music when hes in mission, only because he cant here the sound effects, I cant count the number of ships that he has lost due to his attention being drawn to other things other than the mission, because hes listening to other music outside or EVE. Kmon guys,......I know you guys have other more pressing things,...but get the sound right,...OK! Thanks -=+>xXx<+=- What was that,....Did i here a ship go POP! Naaaaa,...i herd a PIN DROP!
Knaar Amarr Kneet	Posted - 2009.05.26 15:46:00 - [9] Upon logging in my alt whom is docked in a station, the station did not load. It's a black screen with all the normal station windows on top, including my items and ships and the station control panel thingy. If I'm able to reproduce the issue I will try to figure out how to submit a detailed bug report. I am hoping though this is just a one time glitch due to the patch and if I restart it it will be fine. Knaar Director of Trade and Production Hosokawa Incorporated
sinfulangel H A V O C	Posted - 2009.05.26 15:47:00 - [10] Warp disruption spheres no longer pull you from warp...such fail CCP. Please say this is a bug and not some new "feature". There is already more then enough ways for people to avoid any sort of combat in your PVP orientated game....

Capt Kaos	Posted - 2009.05.26 15:49:00 - [11] Here's an update to the new warp bubble behavior. We tested this with interdictors, HICs, and mobile warp disruptors- if you warp in at range to the bubble you will land at that range. The odd thing is that if you warp to a gate at 50km, and there's an in-line bubble 20km off the gate in your direction, you end up 70+ km from the gate. It looks as if the warp calculation is now made off the edge of the bubble instead of the gate that you're warping to.
Fergus Runkle Minmatar Truth and Reconciliation Council	Posted - 2009.05.26 15:56:00 - [12] Suffering from continual disconnects, Ping Plotter shows that some addresses listed as Telecity (specifically 85.90.226.205) are suffering from 40% - 60% packet loss.
Shaun Klaroh Caldari The Report Syndicate	Posted - 2009.05.26 15:58:00 - [13] It seems that the patch cannot be applied to the client provided by Steam. At this point I'm reading a constant corruption issue though the client worked fine straight from Steam prior. Does CCP send its patches to ValvE's distribution servers? ----- Quote: "Are these people prisoners?" Arkhan asked. "Not at all," Melak replied. "They're free to run and get shot any time they like."
Vid Eeomeet Dark Sun Collective Dark Matter Consortium.	Posted - 2009.05.26 16:05:00 - [14] Oh no, not again.... Anybody having the crc or checksum crap again? I'm nervous to DL the new update..... I still haven't heard from CCP about the last time.... Last patch, (and all patches since apochrypha came out) I'd get an error message about the patch..... then have to download the full client over and over and over to get it to work. I don't even know at this point how many days I've paid for and not been able to play. So again, before patching..... anybody had this issue again?
Shaun Klaroh Caldari The Report Syndicate	Posted - 2009.05.26 16:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Shaun Klaroh Does CCP send its patches to ValvE's distribution servers? Looks like the Steam Distro servers got the patch. My Steam client grabbed it a few minutes after posting here, so.. I'm good to go. ----- Quote: "Are these people prisoners?" Arkhan asked. "Not at all," Melak replied. "They're free to run and get shot any time they like."
Xianthar STK Scientific The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.26 16:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Vid Eeomeet Oh no, not again.... Anybody having the crc or checksum crap again? I'm nervous to DL the new update..... I still haven't heard from CCP about the last time.... Last patch, (and all patches since apochrypha came out) I'd get an error message about the patch..... then have to download the full client over and over and over to get it to work. I don't even know at this point how many days I've paid for and not been able to play. So again, before patching..... anybody had this issue again? 1 for 2 had that problem tho it didn't blast the client, i'm on linux/wine tho maybe that why, i'd recommend the manual patch download also asked me to reboot after patching....riiiiiight, why would you EVER have to reboot a computer due to a an update to a video game....no valid reasons exist, luckily wine gets me around that rubbish
Amida Ta German Mining and Manufacture Corp.	Posted - 2009.05.26 16:41:00 - [17] Edited by: Amida Ta on 26/05/2009 16:41:42 Edited by: Amida Ta on 26/05/2009 16:41:27 Originally by: Xianthar also asked me to reboot after patching....riiiiiight, why would you EVER have to reboot a computer due to a an update to a video game....no valid reasons exist, luckily wine gets me around that rubbish It's asking that BECAUSE you are running wine. You wouldn't have to do this otherwise... _________________________ EveAI.Live - The EVE-Online API/class library for .Net, C# and VB.Net
Xianthar STK Scientific The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.26 16:50:00 - [18] Originally by: Amida Ta Edited by: Amida Ta on 26/05/2009 16:41:42 Edited by: Amida Ta on 26/05/2009 16:41:27 Originally by: Xianthar also asked me to reboot after patching....riiiiiight, why would you EVER have to reboot a computer due to a an update to a video game....no valid reasons exist, luckily wine gets me around that rubbish It's asking that BECAUSE you are running wine. You wouldn't have to do this otherwise... not directly a wine issue, this occurred on a client for whom the in client update bricked (appeared to have downloaded a corrupt version of the patch yet still tried to install it, CRC anyone?). had to install a manually downloaded patch on that client...other clients patched fine in game. its dxdllreg.exe that is trying to request a reboot indicating that something in the patch bricking tripped off a check up on DX thus asking for a reboot... i would assume the same could happen on any OS if the patcher tries to apply a corrupted patch
SFX Bladerunner Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies	Posted - 2009.05.26 16:52:00 - [19] Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 26/05/2009 16:54:45 Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 26/05/2009 16:54:14 Originally by: Capt Kaos Here's an update to the new warp bubble behavior. We tested this with interdictors, HICs, and mobile warp disruptors- if you warp in at range to the bubble you will land at that range. The odd thing is that if you warp to a gate at 50km, and there's an in-line bubble 20km off the gate in your direction, you end up 70+ km from the gate. It looks as if the warp calculation is now made off the edge of the bubble instead of the gate that you're warping to. I can confirm this. there was a mobile small warp disrupt bubble (T1) 90km on a gate in 0.0 I warped to the GATE at 100km (using right click, stargates, select gate, warp to 100km) and landed ~190km from the GATE due to the bubble. It seems like now instead of calculating landing distance on edge of a pull/tractor bubble within range of a warpable object it simply takes the bubble and use that as if it WAS the object you warp to. summation: code that replaces the celestial object as warpto point still works. code that overrides the distance you selected when warping to celestial object with the distance that places you on edge of bubble DOES NOT WORK. ps. this bug showed up in the previous TQ version, haven't tested if it shows up aswell in 1.2.3 but guessing from previous posts I assume it does. __________________________________________________ History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever..
Sky Grunthor Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment	Posted - 2009.05.26 17:32:00 - [20] Originally by: Amida Ta Edited by: Amida Ta on 26/05/2009 16:41:42 Edited by: Amida Ta on 26/05/2009 16:41:27 Originally by: Xianthar also asked me to reboot after patching....riiiiiight, why would you EVER have to reboot a computer due to a an update to a video game....no valid reasons exist, luckily wine gets me around that rubbish It's asking that BECAUSE you are running wine. You wouldn't have to do this otherwise... win vista 64 asked for a reboot as well. ------------------------------------------------- Search: Sky Grunthor

Fulber	Posted - 2009.05.26 17:43:00 - [21] Quote: EVE Online Updater has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience. Nice one.

CCP Hypnotic	Posted - 2009.05.26 17:56:00 - [22] Originally by: Sky Grunthor Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 26/05/2009 13:53:18 Warp disrupt bubbles... I can confirm that we are working on the issues related to Warp Disruption Bubbles listed in this thread. They are not new, we became aware of them internally on the 19th, and we are working hard on producing a quality fix that does not affect anything else adversely. As you can guess warping and warp to distances are a rather big system in EVE, bubble or no bubble, so we want to make sure everything is OK with the fix. We in QA are testing this at the moment and, assuming it passes, will release it sometime very soon. (No need for a TM on that one, we're on it.)

Refazed Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.26 18:05:00 - [23] Originally by: CCP Hypnotic I can confirm that we are working on the issues related to Warp Disruption Bubbles listed in this thread. They are not new, we became aware of them internally on the 19th, and we are working hard on producing a quality fix that does not affect anything else adversely. As you can guess warping and warp to distances are a rather big system in EVE, bubble or no bubble, so we want to make sure everything is OK with the fix. We in QA are testing this at the moment and, assuming it passes, will release it sometime very soon. (No need for a TM on that one, we're on it.) Thank you very much for the informative response to this issue. I look forward to the fix.
Anemonae Ambrosia Gallente International House of PWNCakes Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.26 18:33:00 - [24] That is a good kind of response from CCP. Good job quality fixes are very important
Sauer Hase	Posted - 2009.05.26 18:46:00 - [25] MWD trust seems also be broken, MWD ships tend to accelerate way slower than yesterday...
Sky Grunthor Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment	Posted - 2009.05.26 18:54:00 - [26] Originally by: CCP Hypnotic Originally by: Sky Grunthor Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 26/05/2009 13:53:18 Warp disrupt bubbles... I can confirm that we are working on the issues related to Warp Disruption Bubbles listed in this thread. They are not new, we became aware of them internally on the 19th, and we are working hard on producing a quality fix that does not affect anything else adversely. As you can guess warping and warp to distances are a rather big system in EVE, bubble or no bubble, so we want to make sure everything is OK with the fix. We in QA are testing this at the moment and, assuming it passes, will release it sometime very soon. (No need for a TM on that one, we're on it.) my first dev quote! WOOT!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------- Search: Sky Grunthor
Suralor Minmatar LOCKDOWN. Cult of War	Posted - 2009.05.26 20:06:00 - [27] Originally by: CCP Hypnotic Originally by: Sky Grunthor Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 26/05/2009 13:53:18 Warp disrupt bubbles... I can confirm that we are working on the issues related to Warp Disruption Bubbles listed in this thread. They are not new, we became aware of them internally on the 19th, and we are working hard on producing a quality fix that does not affect anything else adversely. As you can guess warping and warp to distances are a rather big system in EVE, bubble or no bubble, so we want to make sure everything is OK with the fix. We in QA are testing this at the moment and, assuming it passes, will release it sometime very soon. (No need for a TM on that one, we're on it.) Sry CCP, but... I live in 0.0.... the first issue with gates were horrible. I cant believe, that these problem wasnt recongnize by the QA Team.... but, ok, maybe serverload was a key to this problem... But now the warp bubble problem... Seriosly... the QA Team also needs a patch...
Daedalus II	Posted - 2009.05.26 22:09:00 - [28] From an RP perspective the new bubble mechanic is exactly what one would expect! The warpdrive of a ship locks onto a gravitational well, and we have to assume that a warp disrupt probe creates such a well that masks the normal gravitational well of a gate, to lure ships onto it. So instead of locking onto the gate the ship warpdrive locks onto the probe. So if you say you want to warp in at 100 km you will warp in to 100 km from the gravitational well your ship believes is the gate, but is actually the probe Just saying...
ollobrains Caldari State Inc. People for Organised Peace	Posted - 2009.05.26 22:28:00 - [29] Probes screen Launching scan probes the Probes in space dont automatically update and scan results freeze, to get an update u need to click the directional screen and then come back to the system scanner screen Quite annoying when u do a lot of scanning. Also 2 probes in space and goto jump thro stargate or womrhole the normal warning screen do u wish to call probes in isnt showing up lost 2 probes before because of that And ETA on fix ?
Puggie Minmatar Stardust Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.27 00:04:00 - [30] since downloading the new patch today i keep crashing to desktop not changed anything on the system only the patch on the game and no problems before patch



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