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Vexia Valador	Posted - 2009.05.27 15:42:00 - [1] Anyone know what would the Top 10 Pirate Corps in EVE would be?
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.05.27 15:58:00 - [2] Edited by: Gnulpie on 27/05/2009 16:02:16 Define 'Top 10' please. Corp with the most kills? Best k/d ratio? Most isk destroyed? Fewest losses to enemies? Most members? Corp with the highest bounties on their members? etc.
cinefilul Amarr W33D Corp. Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:00:00 - [3] the corp with the most ugly characters? eve is a beautiful game!
marxist revolutionary Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:02:00 - [4] what's a pirate
El'Tar Caldari Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:02:00 - [5] According to battle clinic for this month ( what a **** site but u know, it makes genos looks p cool so w/e ) 1Genos Occidere24,746 2Beyond Divinity Inc19,575 3GoonFleet17,282 4tr0pa de elite16,411 5Fremen Sietch14,259 6D00M.12,961 7Tribal Liberation Force12,811 8Interstellar eXodus12,278 9Wrath of Fenris11,904 10Shade.11,268 ________________________________________________
Talzaris Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:11:00 - [6] GoonFleet is a premiere pirate corp.
Shpuntik Minmatar Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:13:00 - [7] you could name lots of corps in this tbh. ---InViCtA---
Umon'hon Minmatar Walk the Plank Rat Pack Renegades	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:20:00 - [8] Edited by: Umon''hon on 27/05/2009 16:27:30 Edited by: Umon''hon on 27/05/2009 16:27:19 1. Veto. 2. ? 3. ? ...
Adeptus mecanicus Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:20:00 - [9] crime and punishment is <------ that way Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
DHB WildCat Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:23:00 - [10] Edited by: DHB WildCat on 27/05/2009 16:23:22 Originally by: El'Tar According to battle clinic for this month ( what a **** site but u know, it makes genos looks p cool so w/e ) 1Genos Occidere24,746 2Beyond Divinity Inc19,575 3GoonFleet17,282 4tr0pa de elite16,411 5Fremen Sietch14,259 6D00M.12,961 7Tribal Liberation Force12,811 8Interstellar eXodus12,278 9Wrath of Fenris11,904 10Shade.11,268 You know that cant be right garmon. There are 2 triumvirate corps in that list, and last I heard is that they were the worst pvp'ers out there. Insignificant and fight using tactics that only allow them to win, and do not fight toe to toe lined in up in old colonial war fighting style. Meh 8) WildCat

Forthcoming Fate Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:24:00 - [11] Originally by: El'Tar According to battle clinic for this month ( what a **** site but u know, it makes genos looks p cool so w/e ) 1Genos Occidere24,746 2Beyond Divinity Inc19,575 3GoonFleet17,282 4tr0pa de elite16,411 5Fremen Sietch14,259 6D00M.12,961 7Tribal Liberation Force12,811 8Interstellar eXodus12,278 9Wrath of Fenris11,904 10Shade.11,268 we're a pirate corp now? Ohshi-..
Umon'hon Minmatar Walk the Plank Rat Pack Renegades	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:27:00 - [12] Originally by: El'Tar According to battle clinic for this month ( what a **** site but u know, it makes genos looks p cool so w/e ) 1Genos Occidere24,746 2Beyond Divinity Inc19,575 3GoonFleet17,282 4tr0pa de elite16,411 5Fremen Sietch14,259 6D00M.12,961 7Tribal Liberation Force12,811 8Interstellar eXodus12,278 9Wrath of Fenris11,904 10Shade.11,268 You fail, those kills are from KILLMAIL, and most of those are not even pirate corps.
El'Tar Caldari Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:39:00 - [13] Guys, guys, chill, the only reason I posted that list was to show off a bit yea? + U know, that list gives other corps + rep, u know that goon dude and that interal something or w/e and that wildcat dude seemed p pleased w/ it so w/e ________________________________________________
RedSplat Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:46:00 - [14] Top 10 is ****ed, netherless. In no order: Genos, BYDI, United, Black Rabbits, Heretic Army, Elements of PL, The Bastards, Invicta and GIS (they actually a pirate corp or not?) are all good corps or by extension alliances. There are others but these spring to mind. Originally by:** CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:48:00 - [15] The top 10 are the ones that can get the most people to nominate them in the top 10. You don't have to do anything else. --- Put in space whales!
marxist revolutionary Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.27 16:50:00 - [16] Originally by: Umon'hon You fail, those kills are from KILLMAIL, and most of those are not even pirate corps. what's a pirate
Major Stormer Caldari MEK Enterprises	Posted - 2009.05.27 17:00:00 - [17] It depends who you actually consider pirates. People who hang in low sec gates in large blobs and kill everything that comes though are not pirates. Good old fashioned solo roamers, ransomers, and small gangs, if in low sec or 0.0, those are the true pirates. --- http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com
coldplasma Caldari Skill Level Six	Posted - 2009.05.27 17:09:00 - [18] Edited by: coldplasma on 27/05/2009 17:08:57 Originally by: Major Stormer It depends who you actually consider pirates. People who hang in low sec gates in large blobs and kill everything that comes though are not pirates. Good old fashioned solo roamers, ransomers, and small gangs, if in low sec or 0.0, those are the true pirates. Let the record show that 'true pirates' do not exist in gate camps. _________________
1olsus Gallente Fremen Sietch	Posted - 2009.05.27 17:26:00 - [19] best PVP corp 4ever
Monica Fiennes Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.05.27 17:32:00 - [20] Heh once every few months this topic gets brought up and most of the time its just a way for most Pirate corps to use their alts to boost their own egos. Honestly who cares...There will be arguing over what a true "pirate" is and then people smacking other corps etc. Many pirate corps are good at what they do. Invicta is good at just being evil The United are good at smartbombing, Sniggwaffe is good at camping the station in Tama and so on.... If you really want to find out if your "pirate" corp is better then another just move into their low sec space and go at it. It's the more fun way to do it These 'Top 10' lists are just an easy troll bait. With all that being said the best piwate in game that I know has to be Ugluuk...he is scawwwey

Torothin Amarr Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.05.27 17:57:00 - [21] teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs.
Elektrea Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.27 18:08:00 - [22] sniggwaffe hands down ----------
nakKEDK Gallente tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.05.27 18:25:00 - [23] Edited by: nakKEDK on 27/05/2009 18:30:00 oops k
Solar Typhon Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.05.27 18:41:00 - [24] Dirty Filthy Perverts
Edriahn Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.27 18:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Umon'hon Edited by: Umon''hon on 27/05/2009 16:27:30 Edited by: Umon''hon on 27/05/2009 16:27:19 1. Veto. 2. Sniggwaffe 3. ? ... This tbqh. Sorry waffles, u gotta learn your place.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.05.27 18:49:00 - [26] Originally by: Elektrea sniggwaffe hands down Seconded; Veto/Idle have not been mentioned enough. --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
RedSplat Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.27 19:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Elektrea sniggwaffe hands down Seconded; Veto/Idle have not been mentioned enough. If i think Waffles I'm still stuck thinking PL training corp rather than Pirate corp. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Vexia Valador Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2009.05.27 19:05:00 - [28] Wow I never thought to see this post grow so big. Thanks guys for the responses, as its always interesting to hear peoples opinion's. Thanks Vexia Valador
Dramaticus Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.27 21:35:00 - [29] Originally by: marxist revolutionary Originally by: Umon'hon You fail, those kills are from KILLMAIL, and most of those are not even pirate corps. what's a pirate a member of a horrible corporation that was in a failed alliance that got run out of 0.0 Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan
Chelou Gallente Airborne Assassins United Manufacturing and Technology Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.27 21:37:00 - [30] 1.veto 2.rancer guys 3.rancer guys 4.. 1.veto 2.Ups 3.rancer guys ______________

SlapNuts Gallente The Nightshift Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.05.27 22:39:00 - [31] The bounty system was always the best way to figure this out, only pirates will have bounties since they are of a neg sec. Combine all the bounties in one corp, you are on the right path. Combine the total bounties in one corp with their kill/loss ratio and your done. Now do this for all pirate corps if you really want to know and then post here with your findings. Good luck with that ..........................
Torhas Gallente N'Th'Rack Squadron Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.05.28 00:00:00 - [32] Corporation Kills the united 129,331 Xenobytes 87,367 GoonFleet 85,176 0utbreak 82,292 Black Nova Corp 80,431 Reikoku 79,718 D00M. 77,613 Destructive Influence 76,495 The Collective 62,419 Rage and Terror 60,451 Rancer guyz are EBiL !
Torhas Gallente N'Th'Rack Squadron Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.05.28 00:04:00 - [33] Corporation losses State War Academy 245,177 Oh and State War Academy is the worst pirate corp in EvE.
Monica Fiennes Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.05.28 00:41:00 - [34] Originally by: Torhas Corporation Kills the united 129,331 Rancer guyz are EBiL ! Ok I personally have nothing against them just thought I would point out the obvious. Capsule kills - 56,402 - 44240 from the below ships Frigate kills - 14,214 RookieShip kills - 19,208 Shuttle kills - 10,818 That give them roughly 88,480 kills from smartbombing not counting pods from other kills...as i said earlier they are good at smartbombing at the gate But hey that's a form of pirating so who knows... Flame away
Solifugae Arachnis Amarr Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.28 00:43:00 - [35] Yes, coz all corporations in EVE post on battleclinic. ;)
Cpt Underpants Caldari SUNDERING Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2009.05.28 01:10:00 - [36] I would define the best pirate corps as the ones that primarily operate in low-sec. If Battleclinc or eve-kill.net could run some stats on lowsec kills that would give us the best indication. eg: Best k/d ratio in low-sec Most isk destroyed in low-sec Total ships destroyed in low-sec Then you could also do "Worst pirate corp" by showing who has the worst k/d, most isk lost and most isk destroyed in low-sec.
cheesyhead Minmatar Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.28 02:26:00 - [37] What defines a pirate though, or even a pirate corp? Sure: Kills, damage done, survivability are key factors. but don't forget general annoyance factor, corps/allaince evicted and the size of those corps. there is so much that defines a good pirate corp that this would be an impossible list. But if there was Exalted corps would be somewhere out there just because of the large annoyance factor (i.e. smack)
William DeMeo Gallente Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.28 03:32:00 - [38] Originally by: Umon'hon Originally by: El'Tar According to battle clinic for this month ( what a **** site but u know, it makes genos looks p cool so w/e ) 1Genos Occidere24,746 2Beyond Divinity Inc19,575 3GoonFleet17,282 4tr0pa de elite16,411 5Fremen Sietch14,259 6D00M.12,961 7Tribal Liberation Force12,811 8Interstellar eXodus12,278 9Wrath of Fenris11,904 10Shade.11,268 You fail, those kills are from KILLMAIL, and most of those are not even pirate corps. Well these are the best corps in general. And we're the best. Just felt like pointing that out. But yes we're a NRDS anti-pirate corp. Yarr
William DeMeo Gallente Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.28 03:34:00 - [39] Originally by: Solifugae Arachnis Yes, coz all corporations in EVE post on battleclinic. ;) More or less all kills show up on battleclinic yes. Shall I have to explain to you how this works or will you take my word for it? Yarr
Yukinagoto Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.28 05:32:00 - [40] I'm a proud honorable pirate who honors ransoms and 1v1's

ArmyOfMe Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.05.28 06:44:00 - [41] Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. finally someone else that remember the good old pirate corps
Elrock Storm Caldari Scoopex Majesta Empire	Posted - 2009.05.28 07:47:00 - [42] Edited by: Elrock Storm on 28/05/2009 07:47:42 I always liked and respected Burnt Eden. As you hear so often Cruise Ravens are not PVP ships... Did someone forget to tell BE?
Solifugae Arachnis Amarr Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.28 07:59:00 - [43] Originally by: William DeMeo Originally by: Solifugae Arachnis Yes, coz all corporations in EVE post on battleclinic. ;) More or less all kills show up on battleclinic yes. Shall I have to explain to you how this works or will you take my word for it? There's about 2500 kills missing on Battleclinic for our corp. vOv
128th ABC123 Caldari Eve Liberation Force Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.28 08:13:00 - [44] Originally by: Elrock Storm Edited by: Elrock Storm on 28/05/2009 07:47:42 I always liked and respected Burnt Eden. As you hear so often Cruise Ravens are not PVP ships... Did someone forget to tell BE? You do realize they've changed tactics some time ago right? Ps. BE raven has been nerfed, nerfed and then when lying bleeding on the floor hit over the head with the nerdbat once more... (I should know I still fly one...) Check their kb and you'll see how theyve overcome the missile nerfs etc. (think Amarr blackops...)
Hasufet Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.28 08:50:00 - [45] Originally by: Lisento Slaven The top 10 are the ones that can get the most people to nominate them in the top 10. You don't have to do anything else. So Goonswarm wins?
128th ABC123 Caldari Eve Liberation Force Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.28 08:56:00 - [46] Originally by: Hasufet Originally by: Lisento Slaven The top 10 are the ones that can get the most people to nominate them in the top 10. You don't have to do anything else. So Goonswarm wins? Agreed, I foresee a bright pirate future for Goons in lowsec!
Lefevre Caldari The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:10:00 - [47] Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. finally someone else that remember the good old pirate corps ^^ iam still using the teddybear sig.. to honor the old days - - Chode Rizoum http://gigkb.skullone.net/?a=homehttp://gigkb.skullone.net/?a=home[/url][/url]
Shpuntik Minmatar Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:11:00 - [48] i wouldn't call the united pirates they are blinky yes but i doubt smart bombing gates killing noobships all day in the one system is pirating, also as soon as you go to attack them they dock. BYDI are good guys like to fight and swigg are good when they get together off tama station :P Veto we don't see much of anymore along with a few other pirate corps the FW pritty much forced them out of the area. ---InViCtA---
TZeer Caldari BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:18:00 - [49] Originally by: Shpuntik i wouldn't call the united pirates they are blinky yes but i doubt smart bombing gates killing noobships all day in the one system is pirating, also as soon as you go to attack them they dock.
Mystafyre Caldari Dark Materials Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:28:00 - [50] Well I would not start counting kills. With good force camping gate and griefing noobs you easily get like 100 kills a day, most of them shuttles, frigs, t1 haulers, t1 destroyers, t1 cruisers and t1 battlecruisers. I think the best way to rank them is the activity, and how long they have been doing their job in lowsec, protecting it from evil carebear farmers However, I think the OP is trying to ask where to drop a application But of course I say that we are the best!

Mystafyre Caldari Dark Materials Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:29:00 - [51] Originally by: William DeMeo Originally by: Solifugae Arachnis Yes, coz all corporations in EVE post on battleclinic. ;) More or less all kills show up on battleclinic yes. Shall I have to explain to you how this works or will you take my word for it? Well I post my kills and losses to alliance killboard and battleclinic. And I think many others are doing the same.
zenthral staichon Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:38:00 - [52] I haven't been in contact with all pirate corps, but from experience and in no particular order: Veto United Genos Invicta Heretic Maybe Club Bear There are probably loads of smaller corps that are very capable but naturally the larger/louder ones are noticed more. Tritanium Workers Union were/are cool.
Varalonia Minmatar Maia Syndicate Dominatus Atrum Mortis	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:44:00 - [53] BYDI - hands down.
Toko Baru Minmatar Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:54:00 - [54] Lol, thats not really best pirate corps.. cuz they life still in outlaws.. If you like be pirate just come to lowsec and fight here. <3 TRI!
Euriti Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.28 12:03:00 - [55] Genos Occidere ______________________________________________
RedSplat Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.28 12:14:00 - [56] Originally by: zenthral staichon Veto United Genos Invicta BYDI Heretic Maybe Club Bear Club Bear aren't Pirates per se, they are however very good at killing things. Some excellent pilots in there. I never really see or hear much from Veto these days, dont know what they are up to. The United are a pirate corp, i mentioned them earlier. Yes they do pad the KB with smartbombing rather a lot but when they get off the gate they can still Yarr it up; although some would say not nearly as well following the whole issue of leadership and the split with Neos. Genos are anti-pirate. Apparently Oh and i see Burn Eden are mentioned. Blackops Hotdrops <3, they should stick close to Dirt Nap. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Uncle Fester Minmatar VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.05.28 15:35:00 - [57] 1. Zombie inc The rest
MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.28 16:13:00 - [58] ima pirate yarrrrrrr
Near Death Caldari x13 KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.05.28 16:47:00 - [59] 1. x13 2. x13 3. x13 4. x13 5. x13 6. x13 7. x13 8. x13 9. x13 10. Veto ______________________________
Evil Pookie Caldari BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.05.28 17:33:00 - [60] KillsLossesMembersavg kills per pilot the united 129,3311,930961347 Xenobytes 87,36716,495234373 GoonFleet 85,17685,317236836 0utbreak 82,29212,52194875 Black Nova Corp 80,43114,344254316 Reikoku 79,71817,218382208 D00M. 77,61312,111176440 Destructive Influence 76,49514,934571133 The Collective 62,41913,439405154 Rage and Terror 60,45110,394358168 BURN EDEN30,5811,600221390 if you take the united out of the equation for generating heaps of killmails with smartbombs and sort the results in decending order by avg kills you get what I would consider a more accurate representation of general pvp ability. BURN EDEN 0utbreak d00m. xenobytes black nova corp reikoku rage and terror the collective destructive influence goonfleet "Lies, damn lies and statistics!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs

Elrock Storm Caldari Scoopex Majesta Empire	Posted - 2009.05.28 17:42:00 - [61] have to agree, it is only fair to look at kills per member. BE is small, but has always punched well above it's weight. A bit like Great Britain tbh. :)
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.28 17:48:00 - [62] Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. when piracy was actually piracy.. ahhh
marxist revolutionary Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.28 17:51:00 - [63] Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. when piracy was actually piracy.. ahhh what's real piracy and what distinguishes it from fake piracy
MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.28 17:54:00 - [64] real piracy is done on the coast of somalia
Moctobot Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.28 17:57:00 - [65] warp to 0 ;_;
SATAN Amarr BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.05.28 18:30:00 - [66] Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. So does failure and extinction make a good pirate corp?
Shiwan Khan Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.28 18:42:00 - [67] Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. You forgot M3G4, Biomass, TPS ____________________________________________ AEKDB
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.28 18:49:00 - [68] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/05/2009 18:50:05 Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. So does failure and extinction make a good pirate corp? wouldnt say that losing interest in the game = failure. ur so quick to forget also, that groups like zombie inc et al had a major role in influencing CCP's changes to game mechanics back in the day. and hell, certain members of DNA ended up as CCP devs, u achieved that, Satan?
SATAN Amarr BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.05.28 19:09:00 - [69] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/05/2009 18:50:05 Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. So does failure and extinction make a good pirate corp? wouldnt say that losing interest in the game = failure. ur so quick to forget also, that groups like zombie inc et al had a major role in influencing CCP's changes to game mechanics back in the day. and hell, certain members of DNA ended up as CCP devs, u achieved that, Satan? We have had far more game mechanic adjustments directly related to what we do than any of those other corps put together. And unfortunately yes there are former members of UDIE on the CCP staff, but it has nothing to do with their ability or imagination its just where they wanted to work I guess. You speak of DNA like they were something more than a bunch of noobs begging to be blue, guess what they were not.
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.28 19:11:00 - [70] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/05/2009 18:50:05 Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. So does failure and extinction make a good pirate corp? wouldnt say that losing interest in the game = failure. ur so quick to forget also, that groups like zombie inc et al had a major role in influencing CCP's changes to game mechanics back in the day. and hell, certain members of DNA ended up as CCP devs, u achieved that, Satan? We have had far more game mechanic adjustments directly related to what we do than any of those other corps put together. And unfortunately yes there are former members of UDIE on the CCP staff, but it has nothing to do with their ability or imagination its just where they wanted to work I guess. You speak of DNA like they were something more than a bunch of noobs begging to be blue, guess what they were not. A rare day when I agree with a SATAN post.

MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.28 19:30:00 - [71] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/05/2009 18:50:05 Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. So does failure and extinction make a good pirate corp? wouldnt say that losing interest in the game = failure. ur so quick to forget also, that groups like zombie inc et al had a major role in influencing CCP's changes to game mechanics back in the day. and hell, certain members of DNA ended up as CCP devs, u achieved that, Satan? We have had far more game mechanic adjustments directly related to what we do than any of those other corps put together. And unfortunately yes there are former members of UDIE on the CCP staff, but it has nothing to do with their ability or imagination its just where they wanted to work I guess. You speak of DNA like they were something more than a bunch of noobs begging to be blue, guess what they were not. yes we're all aware of the WCS issue
Evil Pookie Caldari BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.05.28 19:55:00 - [72] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/05/2009 18:50:05 Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. So does failure and extinction make a good pirate corp? wouldnt say that losing interest in the game = failure. ur so quick to forget also, that groups like zombie inc et al had a major role in influencing CCP's changes to game mechanics back in the day. and hell, certain members of DNA ended up as CCP devs, u achieved that, Satan? We have had far more game mechanic adjustments directly related to what we do than any of those other corps put together. And unfortunately yes there are former members of UDIE on the CCP staff, but it has nothing to do with their ability or imagination its just where they wanted to work I guess. You speak of DNA like they were something more than a bunch of noobs begging to be blue, guess what they were not. The former BURN EDEN pilots who now work for CCP were utterly worthless. Maybe that explains why CCP fail so hard. Recruit fail = produce fail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs
Don ZOLA Caldari Vale Tudo. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.28 20:07:00 - [73] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/05/2009 18:50:05 Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. So does failure and extinction make a good pirate corp? wouldnt say that losing interest in the game = failure. ur so quick to forget also, that groups like zombie inc et al had a major role in influencing CCP's changes to game mechanics back in the day. and hell, certain members of DNA ended up as CCP devs, u achieved that, Satan? We have had far more game mechanic adjustments directly related to what we do than any of those other corps put together. And unfortunately yes there are former members of UDIE on the CCP staff, but it has nothing to do with their ability or imagination its just where they wanted to work I guess. You speak of DNA like they were something more than a bunch of noobs begging to be blue, guess what they were not. plz never stop posting!
Araviel Gallente Epic.	Posted - 2009.05.28 20:47:00 - [74] my brothaz. MAXSuicide> Araviels bat is even more powerful than the nerf bat.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.28 21:37:00 - [75] Originally by: Araviel my brothaz. still here?
DHB WildCat Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.05.28 21:38:00 - [76] While I've been around and was in Burn Eden these are the nerfs I can almost guarantee was soley attributed to us exploiting the hell out of it to fantastic use! 1) Javelin Torps - Ravens at 249km spewing 1000dps albeit after 20 second flight time 8). 2) Sensor Damps - Ravens spewing torps at 249km and targets lock range being 10km 8). Fight back now! Then in the alliance tourney, Terra Incognita used senosr dampening caracals to make it into the final 4. Before this tourney sd's were unheard of except for on a BE raven, or arazu. The winner of the tourney, being Hun Reloaded adapting our style to theirs by using sd's on sb's. 3) Snake Implants - Okay tbh there were A LOT of reasons why these were nerfed, but it didnt happen until BE patented their Nano CNR's. The day Satan got his implants CCP released their nerf blog! lol 8) 4) Scannig Boost - A long time ago if you were off scan you were safe. We would align to the gate at full speed, when targets jumped in we warped, landing before they loaded. Then the scan boost hit and we were forced to go to cloaks. 5) WCS, enough said lol! some more I bet, SATAN, and Evil Pookie can probably think of more. This is not an omg we rocked post, just saying that these guys did help change the face of eve. So they do deserve some respect. WildCat
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.28 21:45:00 - [77] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/05/2009 21:46:17 dont think anyone was trying to play down UDIE's history in eve...more that satan seems to dislike people mentioning oldschool corporations that played major roles in the old eve. (and despite his assumptions, i was never implying that DNA were omghawt pwn corporation...just made an offhand comment about dna ccp staff heh) - All of the corps mentioned in the original post i quoted were at the very least, respected outfits at the time.
Araviel Gallente Epic.	Posted - 2009.05.28 21:51:00 - [78] Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Araviel my brothaz. still here? ofcourse i am, i got a responsibility. if i left Eve would loose all its epicness MAXSuicide> Araviels bat is even more powerful than the nerf bat.
Garmon Minmatar Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.29 13:46:00 - [79] Originally by: Torhas Corporation Kills the united 129,331 Xenobytes 87,367 GoonFleet 85,176 0utbreak 82,292 Black Nova Corp 80,431 Reikoku 79,718 D00M. 77,613 Destructive Influence 76,495 The Collective 62,419 Rage and Terror 60,451 Rancer guyz are EBiL ! Yea but also pretty terrible signature locked for inappropriate language. ~EVE Community Team
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.05.29 14:28:00 - [80] Edited by: Ugluuk on 29/05/2009 14:28:52 Always interesting to see these topics after a few pages.. First of all i just wanna say that most corporations mentioned here is either disbanded, completely crap or mentioned by their alts.. What is a pirate? A pirate roams around in low sec for victims,camp gates now and then, offers ransoms and steal..A real pirate also honor his word when ransoming and doing 1vs1 cause we make money from it..Pirates like to pick on the weaker people but also show power if forced too.. These days everything makes you qualified for the title as pirate..Even the dude behind the desk at McDonalds who s h i t on the burgers gets called a pirate now.. Most of you guys that mention corp`s like The United,Veto and Black Rabbits are the ones eating those s h i t burgers because other people say it`s good.. I saw that Burn Eden was mentioned: I would not call Burn Eden a pirate corp..Most of Eve`s population can instead see them as their overlords.. They are not into the ransoming and low sec roams..They just pick a target that annoys them, move in and show them how fast a gang four times their size can die.. Im my eyes Eve has turned into a ****ty game..There was a time skill points made a difference in this game but now 1 dude with 2 accounts and 10mill sp can kill my Megathron with a Moa and his falcon alt.. This is also the reason we dont have enough corporations to complete a top 10 list..

Mystafyre Caldari Dark Materials Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.29 15:23:00 - [81] Originally by: DHB WildCat 3) Snake Implants - Okay tbh there were A LOT of reasons why these were nerfed, but it didnt happen until BE patented their Nano CNR's. The day Satan got his implants CCP released their nerf blog! lol 8) The old Snake set and Sabre... I miss that
Shpuntik Minmatar Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.05.29 15:43:00 - [82] i miss the 12 nano hacs vs 80 man fw blobs we had was so much fun lol ---InViCtA---
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.29 15:53:00 - [83] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 29/05/2009 15:53:49 Originally by: Shpuntik i miss the 12 nano hacs vs 80 man fw blobs we had was so much fun lol annihilating 20 man gangs with 4 people was fun. doesnt have to be just nano **** to make that happen though
RedSplat Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.29 17:09:00 - [84] Who'd have though that piracy might have had to adapt following game changes
SwindonBadger Gallente 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.05.29 18:41:00 - [85] Edited by: SwindonBadger on 29/05/2009 18:46:57 Originally by: DHB WildCat 5) WCS, enough said lol! some more I bet, SATAN, and Evil Pookie can probably think of more. This is not an omg we rocked post, just saying that these guys did help change the face of eve. So they do deserve some respect. WildCat well befor ur time in BE , I remeber Satan's minions doing the dirty in 2 mwd boming run ravens ^^ I miss the days before cyno chains where bs solo artists to roaming bs gangs where rife in all space, all battles focusing around controlling space rather then posses. These changes (all be it really handy for those in alliance life) did more to kill fun in small scale pvp in o.o the any othere change I have seen in the history of eve. A large number of 0.0 pirate entities died in this period. Pirating and wars have been nerfed almost as much in Empier but it is good to see some new and old faces still around and up coming. BE was very nasty, still is but I would not say they have died or failed for joining a much larger group. U simply cant do things in 0.0 the way we could. Worm holes and a random gang apearing in allaince back yard does not go very far at stopping this problem. Within a few minute that sytem will have cynoed in members who would have had to travel to a station/ formed up and then traveld to the infected system. as for current pirates , been too long since I was at the helm to judge but I herd some have bearks and eat the fishes apart for one who is a hippy and still eats lentils. U KNOW who U R Eat Them all, let the digestion sort em out
Araviel Gallente Epic.	Posted - 2009.05.29 19:21:00 - [86] Originally by: Ugluuk Edited by: Ugluuk on 29/05/2009 14:28:52 Always interesting to see these topics after a few pages.. I saw that Burn Eden was mentioned: I would not call Burn Eden a pirate corp..Most of Eve`s population can instead see them as their overlords.. They are not into the ransoming and low sec roams..They just pick a target that annoys them, move in and show them how fast a gang four times their size can die.. Im my eyes Eve has turned into a ****ty game..There was a time skill points made a difference in this game but now 1 dude with 2 accounts and 10mill sp can kill my Megathron with a Moa and his falcon alt.. This is also the reason we dont have enough corporations to complete a top 10 list.. m8, we both know that experience - skillpoints. and you would send that moa into oblivion, becasue you know how to counter that falcon, and he is clearly inexperienced and should learn how to pick his targets better. by the way even if BE might not be a pirate corp today, they still got their roots as a pirate corp. Old BE whit sol in the lead was definitely 100% pirates, i hunted them many nights down in querious. i dont know what happen but think it was somewhere around when Shin Ra joined, BE started to transform into the monster MAXSuicide> Araviels bat is even more powerful than the nerf bat.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.29 20:26:00 - [87] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 29/05/2009 20:27:07 that was back when UDIE werent well known across eve, when they didnt post on forums; before Shin Ra lol.. long time ago. swindon: Agree wholeheartedly with u. i miss the proper battleship skirmishes of old - now u get carriers and upwards cynoing in on u the minute u enter 0.0....:( but hey i guess it was a natural evolution that was coming for 0.0 as alliances did want to be more 'legitimate'...
SwindonBadger Gallente 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.05.29 20:42:00 - [88] Edited by: SwindonBadger on 29/05/2009 20:44:00 Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 29/05/2009 20:27:07 that was back when UDIE werent well known across eve, when they didnt post on forums; before Shin Ra lol.. long time ago. swindon: Agree wholeheartedly with u. i miss the proper battleship skirmishes of old - now u get carriers and upwards cynoing in on u the minute u enter 0.0....:( but hey i guess it was a natural evolution that was coming for 0.0 as alliances did want to be more 'legitimate'... had a small brain wave,everyone wants more fun less lagg> if u just make the cyno chain move big losgistic ships and capitols and leave only titians to move bs and bellow + some kind of ttian work be it, one DD on grid per minute or anchering to fire it. or even better removal.... then ud get everything and the titan would be more valuable still, ud need to work hard at moving bs gangs around or building up ur storing points for bs (big advantage for home side still). it would help make those concentrated blobs that cause whole sytems to freeze as a home side who just lost a bs fleet but still has caps out on the field must then resuply with a titan jump or sudenly bring all the sytems between the formng up point to infected poss useful for both sides. again sry about spliiing mistakes,, come pod me ^^ Eat Them all, let the digestion sort em out
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.29 21:46:00 - [89] u should work for CCP.
Manfred Sideous Amarr H A V O C	Posted - 2009.05.29 22:14:00 - [90] Swindon is the best badger I think this was a coded message. Ill decypher Ok here it is : More Mint Jelly and Corpses please ______________________________ Please resize sig to a maximum file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal

SwindonBadger Gallente 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.05.29 22:33:00 - [91] Originally by: Manfred Sideous Swindon is the best badger I think this was a coded message. Ill decypher Ok here it is : More Mint Jelly and Corpses please :( ok guys I have to addmit I am a very slefish poster , most will not think of it as most do not feed like me , they like noodles and fungi and stuff like that.. but for evey DD'd pod though it leaves a corpse , it is a hoax to me, thee is only bone left and this with any kind of topping dont fill the hunger. this is the cause of much less pirating around DDs and the sharpo drop in mint jelly demand. All these facts are true *waves jedi paw Eat Them all, let the digestion sort em out
Evil Pookie Caldari BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.05.30 00:18:00 - [92] Originally by: SwindonBadger Originally by: Manfred Sideous Swindon is the best badger I think this was a coded message. Ill decypher Ok here it is : More Mint Jelly and Corpses please :( ok guys I have to addmit I am a very slefish poster , most will not think of it as most do not feed like me , they like noodles and fungi and stuff like that.. but for evey DD'd pod though it leaves a corpse , it is a hoax to me, thee is only bone left and this with any kind of topping dont fill the hunger. this is the cause of much less pirating around DDs and the sharpo drop in mint jelly demand. All these facts are true *waves jedi paw I can only hope that when I am old and senile that I sound half as batshat crazy as you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs
ScoRpS Minmatar 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.05.30 03:14:00 - [93] I wanted to reply with all kinds of explanations and gripes about why a pirate corp can no longer operate with as much success as the giant pirate names of yesteryear. But I wont. We all know the truth... Teh Blob Cometh!
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.05.30 16:06:00 - [94] Originally by: Lefevre Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: Torothin teddybears, tundragon, DNA, m0o, space invaders, zombie inc. Most of you noobs are not old school enough to remember these guys but they were the top dawgs. finally someone else that remember the good old pirate corps ^^ iam still using the teddybear sig.. to honor the old days Exotic Dancers Club and Angel Deep Corporation too - i wonder what Trepkos, KilROCK and Blind Man are doing. Loved their vids back when i was starting eve - i'm mid 2006. --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.30 16:42:00 - [95] they rolled with us in CF for a while but have since all quit the game (years ago) except maybe trepkos, but havent heard from him in ages.
Laythun Amarr Euphoria Released Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.05.30 17:27:00 - [96] trep was about last year, but the last i heard from them was when CF disbanded the first..wait second time Anyway there are no pirate corps left. Piracy as it was known cant exist in this eve. Neither can real mercenaries.
Double E Amarr NQX Innovations The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.31 00:52:00 - [97] I think BURN EDEN should put together a finishing school for pirates Not a place for nub wannabe pirates, but a place where accomplished, aged and experienced pilots who think they are evil...to become truly skilled and nasty pieces of work Just putting it out there
Mortanius Caldari Corp 1 Allstars	Posted - 2009.05.31 09:13:00 - [98] Udie school might be cool. There's no stopping rookies. Pirates are in every system we jump through, some good an some gone bad. I find great satisfaction when things die from a safe distance and love how death exists. All the pirate smack goes down in Jita or the surrounding systems. Those who face death without remorse nor regret are able to transcend it. "I don't really think that I slept, as much as I forgot being awake"
marxist revolutionary Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.31 09:28:00 - [99] Originally by: Ugluuk There was a time skill points made a difference in this game but now 1 dude with 2 accounts and 10mill sp can kill my Megathron with a Moa and his falcon alt.. is this a joke or do you really think everyone new to eve should be penalized against people who've been playing it for years, that's a really good way to ensure a stale playerbase
Mya ElleTerego Amarr The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.05.31 09:42:00 - [100] Originally by: ScoRpS I wanted to reply with all kinds of explanations and gripes about why a pirate corp can no longer operate with as much success as the giant pirate names of yesteryear. But I wont. We all know the truth... Teh Blob Cometh! Cloaky haulers Regional gates Jump freighters Black ops your cloaky hauler for really expensive stuff Jump bridges I could go on, but lowsec piracy isnt what it used to be. Btw weve ransomed a few people. Alliance Recruit thread Alliance Homepage/Killboard

Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.05.31 14:43:00 - [101] Edited by: Ugluuk on 31/05/2009 14:44:12 Originally by: marxist revolutionary Originally by: Ugluuk There was a time skill points made a difference in this game but now 1 dude with 2 accounts and 10mill sp can kill my Megathron with a Moa and his falcon alt.. is this a joke or do you really think everyone new to eve should be penalized against people who've been playing it for years, that's a really good way to ensure a stale playerbase I got 5 years and 80mill sp behind me and all the ship classes i fly i have at level 5.. Ofc the game should been designed so that my 700mill ship could take a cruiser and his falcon friend without having to dock,jump or see them warp off cause im permajammed.. Back in the days you took a chance by taking on pirates or enetering low sec..Now people jump in and out to prove we cant take them..fun fun
K'Bar Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.05.31 15:14:00 - [102] Originally by: Evil Pookie Originally by: SwindonBadger Originally by: Manfred Sideous Swindon is the best badger I think this was a coded message. Ill decypher Ok here it is : More Mint Jelly and Corpses please :( ok guys I have to addmit I am a very slefish poster , most will not think of it as most do not feed like me , they like noodles and fungi and stuff like that.. but for evey DD'd pod though it leaves a corpse , it is a hoax to me, thee is only bone left and this with any kind of topping dont fill the hunger. this is the cause of much less pirating around DDs and the sharpo drop in mint jelly demand. All these facts are true *waves jedi paw I can only hope that when I am old and senile that I sound half as batshat crazy as you. Don't worry Pookie, you're almost there.
Shiwan Khan Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.31 19:51:00 - [103] Agree 100% with Ugluuk. And why did this turn into a BE circlejerk thread? ____________________________________________ AEKDB
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.31 21:12:00 - [104] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 31/05/2009 21:12:18 Originally by: Shiwan Khan Agree 100% with Ugluuk. And why did this turn into a BE circlejerk thread? because they came in claiming all that came before them were pants (or rather, SATAN did.) but hey....everyone likes to reminise about their better days.
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.31 23:51:00 - [105] Originally by: Ugluuk Back in the days you took a chance by taking on pirates or enetering low sec..Now people jump in and out to prove we cant take them..fun fun Dude, didn't you hear. The falcon got nerfed!
SATAN Amarr BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.06.01 00:31:00 - [106] Originally by: Shiwan Khan Agree 100% with Ugluuk. And why did this turn into a BE circlejerk thread? We don't care about others people opinions of us the only reason I stepped in and said something was because people are measuring a corps success through rose colored aged glasses. There were many corps that were thought of as really good mOO for example, but the day CCP nerfed mOO's claim to fame they started falling apart and every attempt by the members to keep the name alive died because they could not adapt. So what does that make them besides one hit wonders? A successful corp or alliance is something that stays true to their initial goals and stays together through better or worse. Back to topic, A pirate corp is someone that makes a profit from killing/ransoming others. Makes no difference if its low sec or 0.0 and yes there are corps out there that still succeed at doing so, but it is far more difficult to do now since prices have fallen so drastically on items in the last few years.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.06.01 01:14:00 - [107] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 01/06/2009 01:15:21 Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Shiwan Khan Agree 100% with Ugluuk. And why did this turn into a BE circlejerk thread? We don't care about others people opinions of us the only reason I stepped in and said something was because people are measuring a corps success through rose colored aged glasses. There were many corps that were thought of as really good mOO for example, but the day CCP nerfed mOO's claim to fame they started falling apart and every attempt by the members to keep the name alive died because they could not adapt. So what does that make them besides one hit wonders? A successful corp or alliance is something that stays true to their initial goals and stays together through better or worse. Back to topic, A pirate corp is someone that makes a profit from killing/ransoming others. Makes no difference if its low sec or 0.0 and yes there are corps out there that still succeed at doing so, but it is far more difficult to do now since prices have fallen so drastically on items in the last few years. what exactly was it that got nerfed that m0o relied on so much? as far as im aware all/vast majority of its leadership had left the game and/or gone elsewhere to other corporations (merger with EVOL), not seeing any point to regenerating the corp. an attempt was made but obviously disbanded a few months down the line (and that can only be considered a failure if its to be measured by m0o's previous success, because it was much smaller in scale - was still a formidable corp.) Ur mistaking bordeom for weakness.
Merw Caldari The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.06.01 01:34:00 - [108] Originally by: Mya ElleTerego Originally by: ScoRpS I wanted to reply with all kinds of explanations and gripes about why a pirate corp can no longer operate with as much success as the giant pirate names of yesteryear. But I wont. We all know the truth... Teh Blob Cometh! Cloaky haulers Regional gates Jump freighters Black ops your cloaky hauler for really expensive stuff Jump bridges I could go on, but lowsec piracy isnt what it used to be. Btw weve ransomed a few people. Confirming that we stop midfight to ransom pods and or ships. We also scare people so much that they eject from their cerbs and warp away crying in local. Do we win now?
SATAN Amarr BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.06.01 03:26:00 - [109] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 01/06/2009 01:15:21 what exactly was it that got nerfed that m0o relied on so much? as far as im aware all/vast majority of its leadership had left the game and/or gone elsewhere to other corporations (merger with EVOL), not seeing any point to regenerating the corp. an attempt was made but obviously disbanded a few months down the line (and that can only be considered a failure if its to be measured by m0o's previous success, because it was much smaller in scale - was still a formidable corp.) Ur mistaking bordeom for weakness. You would need to ask someone like Zap or TWD what the final nail in the coffin was, but a big part of it was the original stacking nerf. And remember they didn't just disband right away they were around for a very long time being mediocre at best but lived off their pre nerf notoriety for a long time. There were something like 3 attempts to re create the legend and every time it was more pathetic than the last. They had members many of them but they didn't know how to evolve without TWD or Zap. I would love to hear the story from the horses mouth, till then will have to make assumptions on what former members told me and what I saw.
Tobruk Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.06.01 03:49:00 - [110] I think the two biggest killers were invention and refined NPC loot I remember back in c0w and TDG (TunDraGon) we pulled in enough income from killing people to buy a mother ship. But ever since invention the price of mods had dropped so dramatically that its simply not feasible to fund an eve existence off of loot. NPC refined loot has done nothing to help, its driven the cost of everything down so much that gate camping is again not viable as an income source. add to that jump freighters, CLOAKING HAULERS (lol wtf where you thinking ccp), Jump Bridges, warp to 0, etc etc. real pirating is long gone - sad but made that way by ccp. there really isn't a place for them in eve anymore, but i eagerly await the day that ccp makes their existence viable again and i know the other Dragons do as well. ---------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me

Araviel Gallente Epic.	Posted - 2009.06.01 08:34:00 - [111] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 01/06/2009 01:15:21 what exactly was it that got nerfed that m0o relied on so much? as far as im aware all/vast majority of its leadership had left the game and/or gone elsewhere to other corporations (merger with EVOL), not seeing any point to regenerating the corp. an attempt was made but obviously disbanded a few months down the line (and that can only be considered a failure if its to be measured by m0o's previous success, because it was much smaller in scale - was still a formidable corp.) Ur mistaking bordeom for weakness. You would need to ask someone like Zap or TWD what the final nail in the coffin was, but a big part of it was the original stacking nerf. And remember they didn't just disband right away they were around for a very long time being mediocre at best but lived off their pre nerf notoriety for a long time. There were something like 3 attempts to re create the legend and every time it was more pathetic than the last. They had members many of them but they didn't know how to evolve without TWD or Zap. I would love to hear the story from the horses mouth, till then will have to make assumptions on what former members told me and what I saw. i was pretty close to them (keep your friends close but your enemies closer and that) and m0o sure as hell didnt split up becasue they couldnt adapt to the game, as i understand it m0o splitted becasue the leadership got boored and felt opposed by CCP, first it was the issue whit Zap's negative wallet account, i helped him out then gave him 500m to get him back on his feets, i liked m0o and they where usefull to me, they teached me how to pvp. but then there was other little issues, constant changes to game mechanics and nerfs to tactis they developed. they did nothing else but adapting becasue of the constant nerfs CCP where throwing at them. i guess they just got tired of it after awhile, i bet that you have felt tired of it to sometimes right? MAXSuicide> Araviels bat is even more powerful than the nerf bat.
Ackaroth Gallente Digital assassins The Foray Project	Posted - 2009.06.01 09:43:00 - [112] Originally by: Araviel i bet that you have felt tired of it to sometimes right? Surely, SATAN did pull that whole "I'm taking a break from BE and touring the galaxy flying with whoever wants me in gang" thing... :) ~~~ Ackypoo
Joe10 Caldari Southern Cross Empire	Posted - 2009.06.01 12:31:00 - [113] -bump-
SATAN Amarr BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.06.01 15:28:00 - [114] Originally by: Ackaroth Originally by: Araviel i bet that you have felt tired of it to sometimes right? Surely, SATAN did pull that whole "I'm taking a break from BE and touring the galaxy flying with whoever wants me in gang" thing... :) You have me confused with Shin Ra who wanted to go roam the galaxy while he was whale hunting(I would say which whale but I would get banned).
Odet Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.06.01 15:47:00 - [115] Originally by: Araviel Originally by: SATAN Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 01/06/2009 01:15:21 what exactly was it that got nerfed that m0o relied on so much? as far as im aware all/vast majority of its leadership had left the game and/or gone elsewhere to other corporations (merger with EVOL), not seeing any point to regenerating the corp. an attempt was made but obviously disbanded a few months down the line (and that can only be considered a failure if its to be measured by m0o's previous success, because it was much smaller in scale - was still a formidable corp.) Ur mistaking bordeom for weakness. You would need to ask someone like Zap or TWD what the final nail in the coffin was, but a big part of it was the original stacking nerf. And remember they didn't just disband right away they were around for a very long time being mediocre at best but lived off their pre nerf notoriety for a long time. There were something like 3 attempts to re create the legend and every time it was more pathetic than the last. They had members many of them but they didn't know how to evolve without TWD or Zap. I would love to hear the story from the horses mouth, till then will have to make assumptions on what former members told me and what I saw. i was pretty close to them (keep your friends close but your enemies closer and that) and m0o sure as hell didnt split up becasue they couldnt adapt to the game, as i understand it m0o splitted becasue the leadership got boored and felt opposed by CCP, first it was the issue whit Zap's negative wallet account, i helped him out then gave him 500m to get him back on his feets, i liked m0o and they where usefull to me, they teached me how to pvp. but then there was other little issues, constant changes to game mechanics and nerfs to tactis they developed. they did nothing else but adapting becasue of the constant nerfs CCP where throwing at them. i guess they just got tired of it after awhile, i bet that you have felt tired of it to sometimes right? Let`s clear the air here.... I was the last CEO of m0o, the decision to close the corp was made my Lord Zap and I during the 3rd coming. There were many small reasons that added up to the decision. One of the main deciding factors would be the leadership. I was the only leader left that was active, and solo running a high profile corp is a lot of work, a lot of work I no longer had time for. Second biggest reason is our reputation helped our downfall. Everybody knew who we were, and most simply refused to engage us unless they had 2-1 or 3-1 odds. Which worked fine for a while, but the odd`s started climbing higher and higher and just became ridiculous. So naturally we started getting bored, and finding replacement pilots became pretty difficult. As nobody really trusted m0o. Which is probably because of all the times we simply admited recruits, robbed them killed them then booted them. Lots of factors came into play but those were some of the major ones. And since somebody will surely ask, no I will never restart the corp ever again, for many many reasons. _______I podded a Dev and all I got was this lousy Implant_______ This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry
Shpuntik Minmatar Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.06.01 17:14:00 - [116] know the feeling regarding fights and rep outbreak had same problem and we're are same right now. ---InViCtA---
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.06.01 20:54:00 - [117] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 01/06/2009 20:55:33 so basically, i was right (yee screw u, Satan ). Cheers for the clearup Odet. Trey told me ur going for Jumpgate, btw? as for the rep stuff, my advice is to make a new corp every other month and make a new reputation with that each time, its lols constantly posting comeback/reform threads and people who dont know the personal names of pilots dont know who u r till theyre being bent over and painfully exploited.
Laythun Amarr Euphoria Released Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.06.01 23:23:00 - [118] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Ackaroth Originally by: Araviel i bet that you have felt tired of it to sometimes right? Surely, SATAN did pull that whole "I'm taking a break from BE and touring the galaxy flying with whoever wants me in gang" thing... :) You have me confused with Shin Ra who wanted to go roam the galaxy while he was whale hunting(I would say which whale but I would get banned). Surely you dont mean XxxWhalexxX ?
Cadius Vect Caldari Domination.	Posted - 2009.06.02 14:40:00 - [119] United Pod Service are No.1 buy far at pooing themselves when you hot drop carriers on their gate camp.......if that counts. ----------------------------------------------------------- Killboard: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Cadius+Vect-kills.html
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.06.02 15:54:00 - [120] Originally by: Cadius Vect United Pod Service are No.1 buy far at pooing themselves when you hot drop carriers on their gate camp.......if that counts. why not try and get a fun fight out of them by not dropping a bunch of caps on them? gatecamping pirates usually lack skill; cap drops seem like overkill to me.

Cadius Vect Caldari Domination.	Posted - 2009.06.02 16:19:00 - [121] Well we live 67 jumps through goon and PL space from the system they were camping so had 2 choices fight them with our logistics alt's in badger MK II's or hot drop them. ----------------------------------------------------------- Killboard: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Cadius+Vect-kills.html
BaconLL Caldari Heavens Gate Consortium SCUM.	Posted - 2009.06.02 19:31:00 - [122] Which brings us to the next question... Why attack a gate camp 67 jumps away?
Evil Pookie Caldari BURN EDEN	Posted - 2009.06.02 21:56:00 - [123] Originally by: BaconLL Which brings us to the next question... Why attack a gate camp 67 jumps away? because everyone within 66 jumps was set blue? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs
Mystafyre Caldari Dark Materials Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.06.02 22:22:00 - [124] Originally by: Evil Pookie Originally by: BaconLL Which brings us to the next question... Why attack a gate camp 67 jumps away? because everyone within 66 jumps was set blue?
Cadius Vect Caldari Domination.	Posted - 2009.06.02 22:28:00 - [125] Because they were blockading a logistics and supply system that we use as a base to move ships & ammo etc to 0.0 by carrier. ----------------------------------------------------------- Killboard: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Cadius+Vect-kills.html
Xiza Larynx Gallente XxTiggerxX Corp United Pod Service	Posted - 2009.06.08 09:45:00 - [126] /me Looks at panties.
Cadius Vect Caldari Domination. THE KLINGONS	Posted - 2009.06.08 15:05:00 - [127] Yesterday we clone jumped to high sec and went in with a Geddon 2 drakes, a command ship + a few smalls and an e-war cruiser, UPS were hiding, we didn't get engaged. I guess the though of an equal fight makes you poo yourself too:P ----------------------------------------------------------- Killboard: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Cadius+Vect-kills.html


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