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Zill The Scope	Posted - 2009.05.28 09:25:00 - [1] After taking stock of where I have gone over last few eyars on my char, I am at point now I realize just how badly I am fubar'd in LP. The Idea came to me of getting a one shot, once off reskill of all LP per account for life of the game. For myself having spent over 17 mil SP on pvp related skills an a wide assortment of small ships, I figure it would be nice to see a total reskill so we can relocate all SP to a new field. I know for me it means I can change my skills to a "Nyx" or maybe a "HIC" an go back to 0.0,or even just to get a Golem an focus on Caldari skills....(just as a for instance) I cant really see a downside to this matter but I am sure if this forum can find one, they will :) Discuss ?
Tallaran Kouros Caldari Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.28 10:11:00 - [2] Originally by: Zill After taking stock of where I have gone over last few eyars on my char, I am at point now I realize just how badly I am fubar'd in LP. The Idea came to me of getting a one shot, once off reskill of all LP per account for life of the game. For myself having spent over 17 mil SP on pvp related skills an a wide assortment of small ships, I figure it would be nice to see a total reskill so we can relocate all SP to a new field. I know for me it means I can change my skills to a "Nyx" or maybe a "HIC" an go back to 0.0,or even just to get a Golem an focus on Caldari skills....(just as a for instance) I cant really see a downside to this matter but I am sure if this forum can find one, they will :) Discuss ? What exactly are you asking for? To reallocate your loyalty points or your skill points? It's not really clear in your post.
Lukriss	Posted - 2009.05.28 10:24:00 - [3] Originally by: Tallaran Kouros What exactly are you asking for? To reallocate your loyalty points or your skill points? It's not really clear in your post. I think he's pretty clear. He wants to pay all his lp to be able to reallocate all his SP. That way he can spend all his lp on random crap, sell it, and then be able to reallocate all his skills for nothing.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:06:00 - [4] LOL how you worked out a scam from my post is truly a work of art, no really it is..... lol What I mean is to take all the SP we have in skills an flat line it... then if I have say "23 million SP" let me change my focus on what I have skilled to something new, say I want to focus my char on Caldari only, instead of the setup I have now where I can fly all race(exept Mimitar) ships up to an including BS to maybe only fly Caldari ships.... It would also alow me to remove the 8 mil in Gunnery an drop it all into Missles. There is no scam involved at all, LP never even got mentioned, please stop trolling when someone asks a valid an serious question ok mate...? cheers.
Craer	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:22:00 - [5] 5 letters : NEVER
Tippia Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:47:00 - [6] Originally by: Craer 5 letters : NEVER This. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Jago Asil Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.28 11:52:00 - [7] Please no. I liken it to making a mistake. In PvP, mistake = dead. You buy a new ship. In skills, mistake = time spent. You train a different skill. No need to change anything. And this ... Originally by: Zill After taking stock of where I have gone over last few eyars on my char, I am at point now I realize just how badly I am fubar'd in LP. The Idea came to me of getting a one shot, once off reskill of all LP per account for life of the game. ... ... is where you mentioned LP. (It's somewhat clear what you meant, but that isn't the point.) mrp
Slave 2739FKZ	Posted - 2009.05.28 12:30:00 - [8] Originally by: Craer NEVER
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.05.28 14:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Zill There is no scam involved at all, LP never even got mentioned, please stop trolling when someone asks a valid an serious question ok mate...? cheers. I see it mentioned twice.... (Oh, and the idea is complete nonsense and gamebreaking) FREE! jumpclone service - Now 416 locations!
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.28 15:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Craer 5 letters : NEVER *Let My People Go*

Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2009.05.28 17:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Zill After taking stock of where I have gone over last few eyars on my char, I am at point now I realize just how badly I am fubar'd in LP. The Idea came to me of getting a one shot, once off reskill of all LP per account for life of the game. Most of your support skills are needed for HIC or Nyx. Racial frig/cruiser/BS is prereq. The only truely "wasted" SP would be the T2 ship skills. Which, based on your mension of wide assortment, aren't trained to level V and only amount to a few million. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Barkaial Starfinder Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment	Posted - 2009.05.28 17:42:00 - [12] You are free to train other stuff... It's not like you choose Shamans and have to deal with it forever.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2009.05.28 23:59:00 - [13] Now that I see it, the LP mention at start was a mistake, as is obvious. It isnt game breaking in anyway, since you can only ever do it once in the life of the char, you would prolly see it happen more in the chars like me that have been round since 03. oh an yes, I have all the low end frigs crusiers to V an a few 4's since I was mostly enyo pvp...You are welcome to look on www.eve-sheet.com to see my char. Point stands it is a good idea for those of us who wasted a crap load of SP on stuff we don't use anymore (I use only missles) yet have nearly 7 mil in gunnery, an 8.1+ mil in ships that I dont fly anymore.
Dear Abby	Posted - 2009.05.29 03:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Zill Edited by: Zill on 28/05/2009 23:59:49 After taking stock of where I have gone over last few eyars on my char, I am at point now I realize just how badly I am fubar'd in SP. The Idea came to me of getting a one shot, once off reskill of all SP per account for life of the game. For myself having spent over 17 mil SP on pvp related skills an a wide assortment of small ships, I figure it would be nice to see a total reskill so we can relocate all SP to a new field. I know for me it means I can change my skills to a "Nyx" or maybe a "HIC" an go back to 0.0,or even just to get a Golem an focus on Caldari skills....(just as a for instance) I cant really see a downside to this matter but I am sure if this forum can find one, they will :) Discuss ? So your are finally realizing all the bad choices you've made have one thing in common ; you. You don't need a reskill just focus on training the skills you want now and go for it. The downside is that were that allowed you would have people remap to excel at a skill tree - training them at a higher rate then changing to a broad base of skills that would have trained slower.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2009.05.29 03:54:00 - [15] that is possible,but CCP have proven to be up to it as far as crackin down on exploits,an as my idea is a one shot deal I dare say people wouldn't just use it for the "uber" skill tree
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.05.29 04:58:00 - [16] One of the reasons this never have (and hopefully never will) happened is because the "mistakes" we do, is something we all have to take the consequences of. Never players got the advantage of having guides, and experienced players around, to give tips. Older players had the disadvantage of having a limited market, ship selection, etc. I.e. over time the older players are more likely to have "wasted" skillpoints, at the same time they are sp-superior, as well as have an experience-advantage. Younger players have a choice to streamline to catch up/"be even" with the older. If we all get a chance to relocate our skillpoints, it will make the older players even get even more advantage skillpoint wise.. while the younger more likely will relocate a very tiny % of their skills. It's quite obvious this isn't "fair" in any way. I'm not gonna say that is right or wrong, just stating the effect that your suggestion would have on the game. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Barkaial Starfinder Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment	Posted - 2009.05.29 05:13:00 - [17] The only thing ACCEPTABLE would be to forget some training. They could add a Mad Scientist that would pay you to make BrainWash experiments. He removes unwanted skills and pays you. NO skill relocation, it would be game breaking.
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.05.29 11:59:00 - [18] Originally by: Zill For myself having spent over 17 mil SP on pvp related skills an a wide assortment of small ships, I figure it would be nice to see a total reskill so we can relocate all SP to a new field. I cant really see a downside to this matter but I am sure if this forum can find one, they will :) For one thing, it would render attributes, neural remaps and implants obsolete. You're skill training time varies depending on attributes so if you've invested 20m SPs in primarily per/will skills for example, had you spent that same time on int/mem skills, that number may have only been 17m. Perhaps if any SPs were normalised such that you only get as many as you would have were you training it with their respective attributes, as they would have been at the time, it wouldn't completely destroy balance. As a vet though, how bad can your character really be? Presumably you have all, if not most of the ancilliary/cross-class skills at 4s-5s, retraining shouldn't be too much harder than simply buying a new Spaceship Command skill. -------------
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2009.05.29 22:58:00 - [19] oh hell na mate, I am X trained now in all races (except Mimitarr up to frigs)....But because I moved to CNR, I don't use all that SP I put into gunnery nor do I fly pvp anymore so all the sp I put into small ships is wasted.But I cant denigh I would like that 18 mil I wasted to remap into Missles an Golem. Giving me an edge into Carriers (CAP training is hell)
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2009.05.30 11:46:00 - [20] And then you would dump the skills and be back here next year asking for another reskill to get your gunnery and small ship skills back because you're tired of carriers. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.

Zill The Scope	Posted - 2009.05.30 14:04:00 - [21] lol this forum never disappoints, so now I am flighty because I have an opinion on what I would like to see happen, gawd n bennet some people ere need to pull their heads out of their collective arses. At my age son If I make adesision I stick wiv it yer, but as this is a computer game an its the first time I've made a suggestion since 03, I think due....don't you ? pillok
General Trajan Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.05.30 15:30:00 - [22] i think it's a bad idea. and my reason for that is i do not want FOTM chasers off the hook for their mistakes. and as for the skills you feel that are wasted, i think they are not. they are there if you ever decide that you want to hop in a T2 frig and go into low/null sec and embarrass sombody.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2009.05.30 16:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Zill At my age son If I make adesision I stick wiv it yer, If you stick with your decisions, why do you need a reskill? Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.05.30 19:11:00 - [24] Originally by: Zill lol this forum never disappoints, so now I am flighty because I have an opinion on what I would like to see happen, gawd n bennet some people ere need to pull their heads out of their collective arses. At my age son If I make adesision I stick wiv it yer, but as this is a computer game an its the first time I've made a suggestion since 03, I think due....don't you ? pillok Spelling is overrated. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.30 21:56:00 - [25] Originally by: Zill Edited by: Zill on 28/05/2009 23:59:49 After taking stock of where I have gone over last few eyars on my char, I am at point now I realize just how badly I am fubar'd in SP. The Idea came to me of getting a one shot, once off reskill of all SP per account for life of the game. For myself having spent over 17 mil SP on pvp related skills an a wide assortment of small ships, I figure it would be nice to see a total reskill so we can relocate all SP to a new field. I know for me it means I can change my skills to a "Nyx" or maybe a "HIC" an go back to 0.0,or even just to get a Golem an focus on Caldari skills....(just as a for instance) I cant really see a downside to this matter but I am sure if this forum can find one, they will :) Discuss ? Hopefully "reskilling" will never, ever happen. Older players have enough advantages already, and FoTM flying happens too much as well.
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.05.30 22:47:00 - [26] Just imagine Dr Zaius dropping all his Int/Mem skill-points into Per/Wil skills and continue training the Int/Mem ones like before... ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Yakumo Smith Gallente Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.31 12:15:00 - [27] Originally by: Craer 5 letters : NEVER People also said never when people brought up the issue of respecing base attributes. If i've learned one thing from Thunderball rip offs, Never say never again. I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually.
Lunewraith Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.05.31 13:00:00 - [28] I hate this thread. I want it to go away. That said, SP re-allocation is a terrible idea. Makes no sense from a practical standpoint - a carpenter cannot reallocate his apprenticeship and become a ER physician. If he wants to train to become one, fine but the knowledgebase he's acquired remains (he'll still be able to remodel his cabinets upon completion of med school). You want to 'reskill' bad enough there is a sanctioned way to do it via character trading. Take your crap character and trade for a focused character with the characteristics you desire. Do a little work, get a free PLEX card!
Sumelar	Posted - 2009.05.31 18:17:00 - [29] The problem with allowing it once per account is as soon as they allow it at all, the pressure starts building for them to allow it more often, then it becomes a "Why not?" screamfest all the time. Look what happened in WoW. First they had respecs increasing in price, then they capped the price at 50 gold because of whining, then they had the price decay the longer you went without changing, now you can have 2 talent specs at once. Pretty soon there will be 3 or 4, I guarantee it. I wouldn't mind reallocating a few thousand skill points, but to me it just isn't worth risking turning this game into a wow clone piece of crap.
Andrest Disch Amarr Debitum Naturae	Posted - 2009.05.31 20:42:00 - [30] Originally by: Sumelar The problem with allowing it once per account is as soon as they allow it at all, the pressure starts building for them to allow it more often, then it becomes a "Why not?" screamfest all the time. Look what happened in WoW. First they had respecs increasing in price, then they capped the price at 50 gold because of whining, then they had the price decay the longer you went without changing, now you can have 2 talent specs at once. Pretty soon there will be 3 or 4, I guarantee it. I wouldn't mind reallocating a few thousand skill points, but to me it just isn't worth risking turning this game into a wow clone piece of crap. But WoW has a cap on how many points you can put into skills, so they can't be compared. To the OP; a resounding no.



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