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Aditia Holdem
Minmatar Cogito Facio Fio Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 11:09:00 -
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While most recent posts in CAOD have been focused on the conflict between -A-/Kenny and Goons/NC in Querious/Delve, or the shananigans of Tri in the north, Immensea seems to have changed ownership without much attention to it. A lot of people seem to have had fun at the expense of United Legion, with Aggression alliance being the ones to gain SOV of the systems United Legion has now abandoned. United Legion seems to be either withdrawing to Detorid, which is a SOV mess, or giving up being a SOV holding alliance for the time being.
I'd like to invite parties involved to comment on the dynamics of this part of the south where one seems to be able to also find a lot of pew pew.
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CommmanderInChief
Gallente Comply Or Die Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: CommmanderInChief on 28/05/2009 11:37:23 I think cos noone really cares about UNL, they are pretty insignificant (no offense guys) but they are, quietly holding space. Agression well only FOFF are known, sadly Agression i dont think really anyone likes either so how long they keep that space is questionable.. They snuck in the back door really whilst everyone else is down south. As they have had some help from Atlas, I guess they are friends with -A- not sure how that relationship works if RA/XIX decide to try their luck.
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O Thief
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.28 12:28:00 -
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Aggro and ATLAS worked together to assault Immensea space
UNL did fight, they didn't give it up, but they fought and they lost
they also asked for it - securing I-N 11 moon station system with 3 POS, for example... was only a matter of time before someone less careless took the space
now, ATLAS are interesting because they constantly field over 100 capitals alone, and are basically the new sothern region superpower along with AAA
given that Aggro/ATLAS are allied, I think Aggro are in a strong position and their alliance shows considerable promise (certainly they fought similar numbers against UNL and won very convincingly)
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Starbud Paul
Amarr Shadow Incursion Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.05.28 12:59:00 -
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lies!!! lies!!! fabricated untruths Nothing happning in Immensea Nothing to see here people!! move along !! move along!! 
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5n4keyes
Caldari Sacred Templars Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 13:32:00 -
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Its all Cosmos fault...
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Sixer70
Caldari Stop The Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.05.28 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: CommmanderInChief Edited by: CommmanderInChief on 28/05/2009 11:52:19
I think cos noone really cares about UNL, they are pretty insignificant (no offense guys) but they are, quietly holding space. Agression well only FOFF are known, sadly Agression i dont think really anyone likes either so how long they keep that space is questionable.. They snuck in the back door really whilst everyone else is down south. As they have had some help from Atlas, I guess they are friends with -A- not sure how that relationship works if RA/XIX decide to try their luck.
See 200+ views only i posted - theres your answer
Spoken by the love of Eve.. Retribution.
Dude.. Aggression is a new alliance.. they made one unsuccessful stab at some space in Wicked Creek and were steamrolling Scorched Earth until Scorched's masters showed up in serious numbers. Now it looks like Aggression regrouped and thrust out at another useless alliance. This time UNL was squashed and Aggression has taken system after system with Atlas only helping in one, maybe two systems from what I have heard.
Not sure why you think people dislike Aggression.. they haven't been around long enough to **** anyone off. Krautbreak/Minor Threat may act ****ed off over some imaginary reset issue but they are really just looking for fights.. which is pretty much what this game is about and is the whole fun of it. I wouldn't take any fights between these guys and Aggression as dislike. All three parties bring it.. so its fun.
Not sure on the situation with -A- but I'm guessing that if Atlas is involved, it says that Aggression has a few friends to have drinks and party with. I think anyone that wants Immensea now....is in for a tough ride. There is better space out there held by less than worthy landlords.
I'd say Geminate is one.. but the space sucks...it isn't worth peeing in.
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McFly
Caldari Hydro Chronic
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Posted - 2009.05.28 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sixer70 I'd say Geminate is one.. but the space sucks...it isn't worth peeing in.
so very true....
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.28 14:00:00 -
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When atlas took omist from UNL, they put up a great amount of effort using delaying tactics. The didnt fold up, they continued to spam towers after we destroyed them and were an overall pain in the ass. They do not seem to be doing this again in immensia which means they have something else going on. Expect to see more of UNL in the future.
Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader Stop banning me
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Martinez
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: 5n4keyes Its all Cosmos fault...
confirmed
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kayentelva
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.28 15:17:00 -
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more info here that may or may not be of interest
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Cupdeez
Caldari Out of Order Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.28 16:36:00 -
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we have seen some UNL in Curse region as of recently.. They have a POS near G-G in Curse... We are unsure if this POS is used for logistics or something else.
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Alor Avaran
Gallente KHM Corporation Rogue Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.28 16:39:00 -
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Don't know much of what is going on south of Curse, but it seems UNL is moving into Curse, specifically H-ADOC area in greater numbers each day.
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Mundem Pashdale
Gallente Sacred Templars Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 17:25:00 -
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Edited by: Mundem Pashdale on 28/05/2009 17:25:05 Definitly Cosmo's fault
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GODWIN
Minmatar Shadow Incursion Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.05.28 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Starbud Paul lies!!! lies!!! fabricated untruths Nothing happning in Immensea Nothing to see here people!! move along !! move along!! 
Signed
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79 They do not seem to be doing this again in immensia which means they have something else going on.
That or the ISK reserves are low, and they can't POS spam etc. Maybe explains why they held I-N with only 3 towers. UNL hold no R64's that I'm aware of, and lost their pet income after you guys took their decent space.
The omist defense was likely rather expensive for a medium sized alliance with not many resources.
This is just hypothesising though, for all I know UNL may be the richest alliance ever to grace eve!

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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: dastommy79 They do not seem to be doing this again in immensia which means they have something else going on.
That or the ISK reserves are low, and they can't POS spam etc. Maybe explains why they held I-N with only 3 towers. UNL hold no R64's that I'm aware of, and lost their pet income after you guys took their decent space.
The omist defense was likely rather expensive for a medium sized alliance with not many resources.
This is just hypothesising though, for all I know UNL may be the richest alliance ever to grace eve!

unl held PS before the goons left, and i'm assuming at least half the moons, plus I believe two in omist and 1 in immensea (supposedly there is one), prior to us and aggro kicking them out of immensea, they had the immensea one and one in detorid.
as far as immensea goes, it actually does have alot of 'decent' ratting space, no very low sec but plenty of 3x1.55 space which is good enough, its certainly better than geminate, vale, scalding pass and wicked creek, among others.
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GusHobbleton
Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sixer70
Originally by: CommmanderInChief Edited by: CommmanderInChief on 28/05/2009 11:52:19
Not sure why you think people dislike Aggression.. they haven't been around long enough to **** anyone off. Krautbreak/Minor Threat may act ****ed off over some imaginary reset issue but they are really just looking for fights.. which is pretty much what this game is about and is the whole fun of it. I wouldn't take any fights between these guys and Aggression as dislike. All three parties bring it.. so its fun.
I can't speak for Krautbreak, but Minor Threat never had an issue with Aggression. We just like PVP, especially if it involves supercaps. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum
unl held PS before the goons left, and i'm assuming at least half the moons, plus I believe two in omist and 1 in immensea (supposedly there is one), prior to us and aggro kicking them out of immensea, they had the immensea one and one in detorid.
as far as immensea goes, it actually does have alot of 'decent' ratting space, no very low sec but plenty of 3x1.55 space which is good enough, its certainly better than geminate, vale, scalding pass and wicked creek, among others.
Yes I've heard about this fabled R64 in immensea, although I'd be damned if we could find it 
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TSX01
Caldari The Penumbra Initiative Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:13:00 -
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All Immensea will be ours, very soon, enough said.
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Jerai Timelsin
Caldari Cohors Alaria Legio Mithras
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: TSX01 All Immensea will be ours, very soon, enough said.
Famous last words... Didn't you guys say that befor TCF showed up in Wicked Creek and kicked you out?
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Sixer70
Caldari Stop The Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.05.28 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jerai Timelsin
Originally by: TSX01 All Immensea will be ours, very soon, enough said.
Famous last words... Didn't you guys say that befor TCF showed up in Wicked Creek and kicked you out?
lol...
I wouldn't listen to that noob... new corp and a nobody at that.
Though.. it looks like he might be right. Doesn't seem UNL has any friends interested in helping them.. then again.. they haven't helped anybody themselves. UNL might have reached the end of its life as a legitimate alliance... or at least.. reached a major hibernation period.
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Mundem Pashdale
Gallente Sacred Templars Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Mundem Pashdale on 28/05/2009 21:24:20
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GusHobbleton
Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sixer70
Originally by: Jerai Timelsin
Originally by: TSX01 All Immensea will be ours, very soon, enough said.
Famous last words... Didn't you guys say that befor TCF showed up in Wicked Creek and kicked you out?
lol...
I wouldn't listen to that noob... new corp and a nobody at that.
Funny coming from someone in "Stop the Monkeys" 
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Selinus
Amarr The Penumbra Initiative Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 22:44:00 -
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Quote: Famous last words... Didn't you guys say that befor TCF showed up in Wicked Creek and kicked you out?
Aye, But who's going to Come save UNL? Sc0rched earth actually had someone to save them!
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CommmanderInChief
Gallente Comply Or Die Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sixer70
Originally by: CommmanderInChief Edited by: CommmanderInChief on 28/05/2009 11:52:19
I think cos noone really cares about UNL, they are pretty insignificant (no offense guys) but they are, quietly holding space. Agression well only FOFF are known, sadly Agression i dont think really anyone likes either so how long they keep that space is questionable.. They snuck in the back door really whilst everyone else is down south. As they have had some help from Atlas, I guess they are friends with -A- not sure how that relationship works if RA/XIX decide to try their luck.
See 200+ views only i posted - theres your answer
Spoken by the love of Eve.. Retribution.
Dude.. Aggression is a new alliance.. they made one unsuccessful stab at some space in Wicked Creek and were steamrolling Scorched Earth until Scorched's masters showed up in serious numbers. Now it looks like Aggression regrouped and thrust out at another useless alliance. This time UNL was squashed and Aggression has taken system after system with Atlas only helping in one, maybe two systems from what I have heard.
Not sure why you think people dislike Aggression.. they haven't been around long enough to **** anyone off. Krautbreak/Minor Threat may act ****ed off over some imaginary reset issue but they are really just looking for fights.. which is pretty much what this game is about and is the whole fun of it. I wouldn't take any fights between these guys and Aggression as dislike. All three parties bring it.. so its fun.
Not sure on the situation with -A- but I'm guessing that if Atlas is involved, it says that Aggression has a few friends to have drinks and party with. I think anyone that wants Immensea now....is in for a tough ride. There is better space out there held by less than worthy landlords.
I'd say Geminate is one.. but the space sucks...it isn't worth peeing in.
fair comment..i wasnt having a dig at agression by the way..
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.28 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sixer70 Though.. it looks like he might be right. Doesn't seem UNL has any friends interested in helping them.. then again.. they haven't helped anybody themselves. UNL might have reached the end of its life as a legitimate alliance... or at least.. reached a major hibernation period.
I would love to go help UNL, but AFAIK they haven't asked for it.
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Numure Kil
Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.28 23:17:00 -
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Pretty Obvious Aggression would find another target, too bad it was UNL.
We had a few good fights with them in Wicked, and overall smack free.
Good Job, Deserved it ;)
PS: I'm sad for UNL though :(
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TSX01
Caldari The Penumbra Initiative Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Numure Kil
PS: I'm sad for UNL though :(
Don't be so sad, why sad? And sad about what exactly, Immensea deserves a better owner and we are it.
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Gho Higyidr
Amarr Black Serpent Technologies Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.29 00:45:00 -
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TBH if UNL doesn't fold because of this I'll be surprised. A lot of their corps seemed ot have merged elsewhere or with their larger Russian counter parts. They tried to delay in E8, however seems their will to keep Immensea is dwindling. Honestly bragging about us being better than them is a bit short sighted. Aggro / Atlas shuffled up UNL and helped them on their way out, and we'll take a stab at holding the space.
I remember being ****ed at UNL for constantly resetting standings with IRC, yet in the end the fights were always fun. :)
Good-bye from Immensea UNL and thanks for all the space. ;)
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Luciolla
Amarr Eve Liberation Force Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.29 01:31:00 -
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Yes I've heard about this fabled R64 in immensea, although I'd be damned if we could find it 
We Had the same issue (Not IRC)
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