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Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:23:00 -
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Hi EvE. I'm a recent recipient of a B.S. in Psychology, with continuing studies in the design and implementation of educational videogames. I greatly enjoy the social aspects and dynamics of EvE Online - it's very interesting to watch the way people behave in a sandbox environment.
There's a lot of posts on the forums that theorize why people act they way they do, but that information is seldom accurate and usually speculative. If anyone has any questions on why people behave the way they do, feel free to ask. |
Kriegman
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:35:00 -
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Dear Shrink,
Would you please kindly tell me as to why do I enjoy murdering other capsuleers? Clearly there is something wrong with me. Is there any way I can overcome my addiction to locking up and shooting people in my overview just to see what their ship had inside? |
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Crunchy Crunchy Peregrine Nation
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:44:00 -
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Hello there.
Why are some people so unwilling to accept their losses and move on? I'm a relatively "young" character, and I've lost a few destroyers and cruisers to mission NPC's. I've never had a problem realizing that I messed up and trying to learn from my mistakes, toning down my initial feelings of aggressiveness and invulnerability. Yet so many miners that I have seen lost their ships and were unwilling to accept their problems. |
Jacob Stiller
The Scope Gallente Federation
1307
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:45:00 -
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Look at me! I recently received an undergraduate degree so everyone should take me seriously as an expert in voodoology. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
497
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:50:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:Hi EvE. I'm a recent recipient of a B.S. in Psychology, with continuing studies in the design and implementation of educational videogames. I greatly enjoy the social aspects and dynamics of EvE Online - it's very interesting to watch the way people behave in a sandbox environment.
There's a lot of posts on the forums that theorize why people act they way they do, but that information is seldom accurate and usually speculative. If anyone has any questions on why people behave the way they do, feel free to ask.
Let me guess, you're also studying the concept of trust and money in a sandbox environment. You're offering to triple any ISK sent to you, and want to see how many people take the offer.
I'VE HEARD THIS ONE BEFORE. |
Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:53:00 -
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Kriegman wrote:Dear Shrink,
Would you please kindly tell me as to why do I enjoy murdering other capsuleers? Clearly there is something wrong with me. Is there any way I can overcome my addiction to locking up and shooting people in my overview just to see what their ship had inside?
You could use a cargo scanner.
In reality, though, people are naturally aggressive, some to greater degrees than others. Engaging in PvP, or just ganking, is likely a cathartic release of that aggression, like sports or exercise might be to other people.
Ilnaurk Sithdogron wrote:Hello there.
Why are some people so unwilling to accept their losses and move on? I'm a relatively "young" character, and I've lost a few destroyers and cruisers to mission NPC's. I've never had a problem realizing that I messed up and trying to learn from my mistakes, toning down my initial feelings of aggressiveness and invulnerability. Yet so many miners that I have seen lost their ships and were unwilling to accept their problems.
Everyone is, to some degree, risk-averse. The inability that some people have to accepting losses probably stems from a greater perception to salience of failure. Different people perceive situations differently, and it may be that players who take ship and asset losses especially hard are more perceptive of negative situational cues, and then really dwell on them.
There may also be a correlation between feelings of disappointment regarding a loss and the seriousness with which one plays the game, as well as amount of in-game income. It would be interesting to look at in an actual study.
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MeestaPenni
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:53:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:If anyone has any questions on why people behave the way they do, feel free to ask.
Why can't my wife get it through her thick skull that the jelly goes on the peanut butter; not the other piece of bread?
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore. |
Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:55:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Gahagan wrote:If anyone has any questions on why people behave the way they do, feel free to ask. Why can't my wife get it through her thick skull that the jelly goes on the peanut butter; not the other piece of bread?
Because it's been demonstrated scientifically that the female gender has large deficiencies in kinesthetic sense perceptions.
tl;dr - because bitches be trippin'
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NickyYo
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:56:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:Hi EvE. I'm a recent recipient of a B.S. in Psychology, with continuing studies in the design and implementation of educational videogames. I greatly enjoy the social aspects and dynamics of EvE Online - it's very interesting to watch the way people behave in a sandbox environment.
There's a lot of posts on the forums that theorize why people act they way they do, but that information is seldom accurate and usually speculative. If anyone has any questions on why people behave the way they do, feel free to ask.
Please tell me why certain players always respond negatively always to peoples suggestions & ideas. Thank you good sir, NickyYo (SERVICE) Need a project coding? (PHP & Javascript) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101893&find=unread |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:01:00 -
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Professionally, what can you do with a BS in Psychology?
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:08:00 -
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NickyYo wrote: Please tell me why certain players always respond negatively always to peoples suggestions & ideas. Thank you good sir, NickyYo
There's really no penalty for saying something wrong when you're posting or speaking with relative anonymity, such as when you're online, but there's a lot of personal feelings of superiority when you're right, regardless of context. Some people are predisposed to arguing on the internet to get those feelings of superiority.
It can also have to do with first impressions - if someone's asking a question, or making a statement, and you don't appear to be intelligent, it's more likely that you will appear to be wrong. Therefore, others would perceive that they have a good chance of being right by telling you that you're wrong. You can also see this effect when someone appears TOO intelligent: there would be a lot to gain by demonstrating that person isn't as smart as they think they are.
stoicfaux wrote: Professionally, what can you do with a BS in Psychology?
A BS in Psych is roughly the same as an undergraduate degree in business, halved. It's really a terrible degree if it's your only degree. It's nice when you pair it with something else, like an MBA, or a law degree, though.
I'm going to grad school for pharmacy, with the idea of working in R&D and clinical drug tests for pharmaceutical companies. I don't think that'll work out half-bad. |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:26:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:
It's really a terrible degree if it's your only degree. It's nice when you pair it with something else, like an MBA, or a law degree, though.
Sir, I'm starting to believe that you may actually have this degree, since you're aware of this fact. |
Jacob Stiller
The Scope Gallente Federation
1307
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:29:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:stoicfaux wrote: Professionally, what can you do with a BS in Psychology?
A BS in Psych is roughly the same as an undergraduate degree in business, halved. It's really a terrible degree if it's your only degree. It's nice when you pair it with something else, like an MBA, or a law degree, though. I'm going to grad school for pharmacy, with the idea of working in R&D and clinical drug tests for pharmaceutical companies. I don't think that'll work out half-bad.
Bah, I would've guessed mental hospital orderly. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1115
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:33:00 -
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simple answer is
"the greater internet ****wad theory"
Normal person + anonymity + audience = Total ****wad The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Mathias Hex
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:50:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:Hi EvE. I'm a recent recipient of a B.S. in Psychology, with continuing studies in the design and implementation of educational videogames. I greatly enjoy the social aspects and dynamics of EvE Online - it's very interesting to watch the way people behave in a sandbox environment.
There's a lot of posts on the forums that theorize why people act they way they do, but that information is seldom accurate and usually speculative. If anyone has any questions on why people behave the way they do, feel free to ask.
BS still stands for bullshit right?
Ok ok lets give this a try, how come I am always a smart ass? I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
203
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:56:00 -
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Why did the Mittani organize Burn Jita and-more importantly-back Hulkageddon?
Who is James315 and why is he pushing to remove Human miners from Highsec? Alliance Auction - EVE Rogues: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1215438#post1215438 |
Xai Li Shun
Mussito Existimatio
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:19:00 -
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Protip: Your bachelors does not make you a psychologist. It barely makes you a fry cook. |
Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:33:00 -
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Mathias Hex wrote:
BS still stands for bullshit right?
Ok ok lets give this a try, how come I am always a smart ass?
More or less. The B.A. is more of a bullshit degree though.
You're probably always a smartass because you can be anonymous. There's less repercussions for saying or doing certain things when there's a diminished fear of repercussion.
Mars Theran wrote:Why did the Mittani organize Burn Jita and-more importantly-back Hulkageddon?
Who is James315 and why is he pushing to remove Human miners from Highsec?
1.) Most likely because he could. Mittani recognizes that EvE is a sandbox game, and he and the rest of Goons, Helicity, etc. seem to enjoy pushing the boundaries of how much they can affect the events that take place in EvE. That feeling's only enhanced because he's in a position to actually do it - I'm sure most of us dream of being significant figures in EvE, and being able to influence the course of the game.
2.) No idea who he is - but I'd guess it's for the same reasons as above. |
Vulix
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:58:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:Hi EvE. I'm a recent recipient of a B.S. in Psychology, with continuing studies in the design and implementation of educational videogames. I greatly enjoy the social aspects and dynamics of EvE Online - it's very interesting to watch the way people behave in a sandbox environment.
There's a lot of posts on the forums that theorize why people act they way they do, but that information is seldom accurate and usually speculative. If anyone has any questions on why people behave the way they do, feel free to ask.
Only a bachelors? Lol.
-A PhD Candidate |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
260
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:08:00 -
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Confirming a BS is the requirement for expert in any field. |
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Connaght Badasaz
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
41
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:10:00 -
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Vulix wrote:Gahagan wrote:Hi EvE. I'm a recent recipient of a B.S. in Psychology, with continuing studies in the design and implementation of educational videogames. I greatly enjoy the social aspects and dynamics of EvE Online - it's very interesting to watch the way people behave in a sandbox environment.
There's a lot of posts on the forums that theorize why people act they way they do, but that information is seldom accurate and usually speculative. If anyone has any questions on why people behave the way they do, feel free to ask. Only a bachelors? Lol. -A PhD Candidate
Lol, Bookworm. |
Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:12:00 -
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Vulix wrote:
Only a bachelors? Lol.
-A PhD Candidate
Clinical or academic? 5+ years of running experiments and writing papers isn't really my thing. I'll stick to a PharmD and make 80k starting.
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Vulix
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:27:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:Vulix wrote:
Only a bachelors? Lol.
-A PhD Candidate
Clinical or academic? 5+ years of running experiments and writing papers isn't really my thing. I'll stick to a PharmD and make 80k starting. Edit - and for clinical, I don't know, it's just not my thing. If you're doing that, whatever. But a PhD in an academic setting is rather unappealing.
Academic, and it's very appealing to me. Why?
1. Summer vacations for the rest of my life
2. All-expense paid trips to conferences that take place in awesome places (Washington D.C., Barcelona, Hawaii are just a few examples)
3. I'm studying computer science, so I basically just work as a software engineer and write some papers (pretty much some documentation on my code + theory\lit review)
4. My research is funded by some government agencies with interests in national defense, so I get to program cool **** 8D
I do think a lot of academic PhDs are boring though, but I'm sure they are exhilirating to the people pursuing them.
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Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:32:00 -
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It's endemic to Psychology. I was under the impression that's what you were talking about.
The 'average' Psychology or Sociology PhD takes 6 years, and if you are doing anything with longitudinal data, God help you. |
SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:40:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:Confirming a BS is the requirement for expert in any field.
Lol this...
You and about 13 million other Americans just received a psych degree. This does not make you a psychologist. This makes you yet another person with a worthless bachelors degree. (Along with communications, English, any lit degree, liberal arts, poli sci, marketing, sociology, and social work just to name a few.) Get a PH.d or a masters in I.O psych then come talk to us.
Least paid degrees
Drum role please..... See what number one is. |
Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:47:00 -
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SpaceSquirrels wrote:Lol this...
You and about 13 million other Americans just received a psych degree. This does not make you a psychologist. This makes you yet another person with a worthless bachelors degree. (Along with communications, English, any lit degree, liberal arts, poli sci, marketing, sociology, and social work just to name a few.) Get a PH.d or a masters in I.O psych then come talk to us.
Least paid degrees
Drum role please..... See what number one is.
Thanks for the career advice. I think you missed this though.
Gahagan wrote:I'm going to grad school for pharmacy, with the idea of working in R&D and doing clinical drug tests for pharmaceutical companies. I don't think that'll work out half-bad.
#2 you say? Hmm - almost seems like someone's done some reading into lucrative degrees! |
Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
99
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:55:00 -
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Is it true that the human brain isn't fully developed until reaching the age of 25? Is it true that that the median age of EVE players is 27? |
Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:59:00 -
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Daneirkus Auralex wrote:Is it true that the human brain isn't fully developed until reaching the age of 25? Is it true that that the median age of EVE players is 27?
The brain never really "stops" developing - forming a memory or learning a skill involves neuronal connections being made, and that never really stops. It just slows down as you age.
But the brain is mostly done doing "brain things" by the time you get to your 20s. 25 isn't a strict rule, but it's a good ballpark estimate.
I do not know what the median age of EvE players is, however, so I'm unable to comment on whether EvE players are more developed, neurologically, than players of other MMOs.
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Derglas Servekti
Twilight Labs Unsung Voices
1
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Posted - 2012.05.13 05:47:00 -
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OK, here's my question. I have a PhD in physics, yet somehow I'm still able to play EVE even though it utterly butchers basic Newtonian mechanics. My question is: given this, DID Han shoot first? |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:02:00 -
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Daneirkus Auralex wrote:Is it true that the human brain isn't fully developed until reaching the age of 25? Is it true that that the median age of EVE players is 27?
The brain is always developing since you are always experiencing the world and those experiences are physical structures within your brain. So, it would be better to say that the brain has, on average, matured by age 25, although I've seen it said as low as 22, instead of saying it has finished developing. Also, it's important to understand the maturation isn't uniform. The area of the brain that develops last is the prefrontal cortex which is where the idea that you finish developing at 25 comes from. A list of what functions it is involved in.
I'm not really sure if maturation is the quite as precise a word I'm looking for, considering you could probably consider decrease in function/mass due to age as maturation as well.
Derglas Servekti wrote:OK, here's my question. I have a PhD in physics, yet somehow I'm still able to play EVE even though it utterly butchers basic Newtonian mechanics. My question is: given this, DID Han shoot first?
Ahahah you got a degree in physics, what a nerd! |
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