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NickyYo
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:16:00 -
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Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?
It's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..
This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to? Do you want these events to take place and why?
And it amazes me how delusional people are, thinking they are making a difference in eve.. and can ransom CCP etc.. Above line mainly aimed at the goons..
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Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:22:00 -
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HMMMHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMM something awfully funny is goin on 'round here. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
SlapNuts
Massive Dynamic weapons
7
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:25:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon? It's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods.. This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?
WHo said this is an exploit? |
NickyYo
StarHug
75
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:26:00 -
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SlapNuts wrote:NickyYo wrote:Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon? It's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods.. This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to? WHo said this is an exploit?
I did! Orca is meant for mining not killing miners.. (SERVICE) Need a project coding? (PHP & Javascript) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101893&find=unread |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
416
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:26:00 -
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I heard stations are a major factor of this exploit as well. CCP should get that fixed at the same time. |
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:33:00 -
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CCP doesn't want to kill Burn Jita or Hulkageddon. Hulkageddon is an almost yearly promise of news coverage, without them needing to take any actions. And Burn Jita was nothing short of a goldmine for CCP.. Good PR, lots of coverage, and even a whole bunch of data of TiDi in highsec and the like under real-world conditions.
CCP would be nuts if they were trying to kill it..
Making Eve a peaceful playground might be nice for some of the players.. But it would end Eve's "field", kill their regular news, and in the end, lead to the downfall of the game. It would end up just being WoW, or Starwars Online, or whatever.. and Eve will never be better at being WoW, than WoW.. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:42:00 -
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GǪin other words, it's not an exploit. Dumping ships into space for other pilots to enter is pretty much exactly what the Orca is for. Granted, being able to do so also makes roughly zero difference for -10s, but why on earth shouldn't they be able to us this core functionality of the ship?
GǪand why on earth would anyone (least of all CCP) want to kill Burna Jita and Hulkageddon?
Quote:Orca is meant for mining not killing miners.. The Orca is meant for supporting fleets in highsec, like all command ships, with a special treat for mining fleets. It's not actually meant for mining itself. It's also meant to transport smaller ships. This is how it's being used in this case, so what made you think that one of its primary functions was suddenly an exploit?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
85
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:45:00 -
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SlapNuts wrote:NickyYo wrote:Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon? It's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods.. This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to? WHo said this is an exploit?
NickyYo, the supreme god of terrible posts, has decreed it so. |
NickyYo
StarHug
75
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪin other words, it's not an exploit. Dumping ships into space for other pilots to enter is pretty much exactly what the Orca is for. Granted, being able to do so also makes roughly zero difference for -10s, but why on earth shouldn't they be able to us this core functionality of the ship?
Tippia wrote:The Orca is meant for supporting fleets in highsec, like all command ships,
Where in the ship description does it say ship can be used to dump ships in space for players to use..
The ships core functionality is to provide bonuses and store ore..
CCP was lazy on this one, create a new ship model and used an existing function in the code that are used for carriers cargo space. Is the Orca a miniature carrier? I think not! (SERVICE) Need a project coding? (PHP & Javascript) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101893&find=unread |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
358
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:57:00 -
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I don't see CCP stepping in supporting you. CCP designed the orca for support roles in high sec. They also knew about the combat support it provided for pirates for years but did nothing about it. What does tell you, moron? Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1116
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:59:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪin other words, it's not an exploit. Dumping ships into space for other pilots to enter is pretty much exactly what the Orca is for. Granted, being able to do so also makes roughly zero difference for -10s, but why on earth shouldn't they be able to us this core functionality of the ship? Tippia wrote:The Orca is meant for supporting fleets in highsec, like all command ships, Where in the ship description does it say ship can be used to dump ships in space for players to use.. The ships core functionality is to provide bonuses and store ore.. CCP was lazy on this one, create a new ship model and used an existing function in the code that are used for carriers cargo space. Is the Orca a miniature carrier? I think not!
thats the way a non-station hangar works in eve
same as a pos, it kicks out a ship on command and you get in
Orca is just a mobile hangar array with some other goodies thrown in for bears The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
428
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:00:00 -
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So the guy who used a hulk to lure canflippers and then kill them with that hulk was wrong too? Because a hulk isn't designed to be a ganker according to the general consensus.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6671
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:01:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Where in the ship description does it say ship can be used to dump ships in space for players to use.. Ship Maintenance Bay Capacity 400000 m3
GǪnow, where does it say that it's not supposed to work for pirates?
Quote:The ships core functionality is to provide bonuses and store ore. GǪand ships, and to transport equipment for various uses and to support those ships with refitting facilities.
Quote:Is the Orca a miniature carrier? Pretty much, yes. Well, apart from providing command bonuses instead of logi support.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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NickyYo
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:02:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote:CCP doesn't want to kill Burn Jita or Hulkageddon. Hulkageddon is an almost yearly promise of news coverage, without them needing to take any actions..
It does provide news, but it is also a vicious cycle for suscriptions.
Players will leave, players will join and then those players will leave.. They will never truly build a solid subscription base at this rate. (SERVICE) Need a project coding? (PHP & Javascript) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101893&find=unread |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1116
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:04:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Sentinel Smith wrote:CCP doesn't want to kill Burn Jita or Hulkageddon. Hulkageddon is an almost yearly promise of news coverage, without them needing to take any actions.. It does provide news, but it is also a vicious cycle for suscriptions. Players will leave, players will join and then those players will leave.. They will never truly build a solid subscription base at this rate.
welp, heres to eve circling the drain for another 9 years
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
NickyYo
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:06:00 -
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Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums.. (SERVICE) Need a project coding? (PHP & Javascript) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101893&find=unread |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1492
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NickyYo wrote:Where in the ship description does it say ship can be used to dump ships in space for players to use.. Ship Maintenance Bay Capacity 400000 m3 GǪnow, where does it say that it's not supposed to work for pirates? Quote:The ships core functionality is to provide bonuses and store ore. GǪand ships, and to transport equipment for various uses and to support those ships with refitting facilities. Quote:Is the Orca a miniature carrier? Pretty much, yes. Well, apart from providing command bonuses instead of logi support.
So it's a miniature Titan (ofc the two bits of Titan functionality that nobody used, but...) Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:08:00 -
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During Burn Jita the Orca was the best way to keep goods moving despite of the Goons. Nerf the ability of it to hold things in its hanger and it would suit the pirates more.... |
daddys helper
State War Academy Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:08:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..
I sure hope you're better at training skills than you are at posting |
Stirko Hek
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.13 05:54:00 -
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ITT: complaining about people finding uses for things you don't like.
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Joseph Sulaco
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:04:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Sentinel Smith wrote:CCP doesn't want to kill Burn Jita or Hulkageddon. Hulkageddon is an almost yearly promise of news coverage, without them needing to take any actions.. It does provide news, but it is also a vicious cycle for suscriptions. Players will leave, players will join and then those players will leave.. They will never truly build a solid subscription base at this rate.
There is literally no such thing as a "solid subscription base" for any MMO. People join and leave all the time and player made events actually bring subscriptions more often than lose them. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:21:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..
ITT someone who doesn't play the game complaining about how the game is played.
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Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:27:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic
Because things are never used for something other than what they were originally built for... |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena Star Council
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:33:00 -
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If pirates want to do that all day long, they can. The worst it does is remove consequences for being under -4.5 in any hisec system. "If." |
Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
13
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:45:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..
Thanks for helping pay the bills |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
40
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:48:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:SlapNuts wrote:NickyYo wrote:Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon? It's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods.. This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to? WHo said this is an exploit? I did! Orca is meant for mining not killing miners..
If you look at the guys pic....tell me does he have the WTF look like he got a suprise from behind or is it the WTF my hulk popped for no reason or does he just look constipated? |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1116
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Posted - 2012.05.13 07:16:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums.. Hey man,me too. Can I get into your corp? M so :sadface: when people call me an NPC alt. |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries Alliance not Found
42
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Posted - 2012.05.13 09:22:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:CCP was lazy on this one, create a new ship model and used an existing function in the code that are used for carriers cargo space. Is the Orca a miniature carrier? I think not! The Rorqual's ship maint will only hold "Industrial" ships, Barge and hauler hulls. This mechanic existed before the Orca of course and therefore could have been used for the Orca without difficulty. The fact that it wasn't is evidence that the Orca was intended to carry other types of ships, and given the calls for means by which to move rigged vessels this makes perfect sense.
Industrialism, after all, is not restricted to mining... Think of all the industrial effort which goes into filling an Orca's maint bay with Thrashers. |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
77
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Posted - 2012.05.13 09:33:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Where in the ship description does it say ship can be used to dump ships in space for players to use..
The ships core functionality is to provide bonuses and store ore..
CCP was lazy on this one, create a new ship model and used an existing function in the code that are used for carriers cargo space. Is the Orca a miniature carrier? I think not!
There are no mention in the description that i can shoot other players as well with my hurricane. Does that mean i'm exploiting the game somehow? Oh my. What have i done :(
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6682
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Posted - 2012.05.13 09:39:00 -
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Jacob Holland wrote:Industrialism, after all, is not restricted to mining... Think of all the industrial effort which goes into filling an Orca's maint bay with Thrashers. GǪand let's not forget. Creating a demand for your goods is the best industrial effort of all.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
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