How is it thought police when you have a security status based on your own actions? When the rap sheet on a criminal gets to a certain length you can't talk fast enough to avoid punishment. They know you. The APB is out.

What CCP is telling you is that it's your job to ensure your own security, and they've given you the tools to do so.

So why should CCP suddenly start to restrict where people can go when it's only happening because you're not doing your job?

Why should other suffer because you're lazy?

If that was the case why to we have CONCORD at all or restrict based on security?

Why do you feel that criminals should be able to act with impunity in something that is supposed to be safer then low-sec or 0.0?

Ah the personal attack.

This whole issue can be solved by simply setting up your overview filters correctly. Keep an eye on Local, then when you see a red or flashy enter the system, decide on the spot whether to risk continuing to mine or to warp out. I really don't understand why anything needs to change?

Because people want to be able to make billions of ISK AFK or Botting, and gosh darnit, those mean ol' griefers disagree. With Artillery.

Artillery and small blasters.

Luv2Shoot ! Luv2Shoot !

There are no restrictions. CONCORD serves the purpose of making sure that aggression in highsec comes at a cost. They're not there to provide any kind of security GÇö just an economic disincentive. If you want security, you have to arrange it for yourself.

They aren't.

Nope. It's just an abbreviation for you not wanting to do your part in creating your own security and wanting NPCs to do it for you. Would you like to call it GÇ£lethargicGÇ¥ instead? GÇ£LaxGÇ¥? GÇ£LackadaisicalGÇ¥? GÇ£ApatheticGÇ¥? GÇ£IndifferentGÇ¥?

GǪok, indifferent doesn't work, since you obviously want someone to do it, as long fiddle it's not you.

I think the boggle is i find your posts on this issue to be very narrow. Shallow? Trite? I feel something is not is as intend with regards to hi-sec. You seem to feel the opposite and point to some lack of effort on my part to conform. I dissagree. Good day to you.

I think the boggle is i find your posts on this issue to be very narrow. Shallow? Trite? I feel something is not is as intend with regards to hi-sec. You seem to feel the opposite and point to some lack of effort on my part to conform. I dissagree. Good day to you.

CCP has repeatedly stated that Player Run Events are great and that Suicide Ganking is a valid game mechanic.

How is something in regards to HAG and HS not working as intended?

You're not supposed to die in highsec ~~~~

CCP designed the orca for support roles in high sec.

I did!
Orca is meant for mining not killing miners..

Ignorant poster is ignorant for willingly ignoring the fact that the orca is not a mining ship. It's an industrial command ship meant to assist in a variety of roles. It is even capable of combat against battlecruisers when fitted and piloted properly.

Also, so far as I know, No Orca has ever been used in a suicide gank. Their alpha/dps is atrocious for their price.

I really hope someone proves me wrong. I will laugh mightily.

CCP has repeatedly stated that Player Run Events are great and that Suicide Ganking is a valid game mechanic.

How is something in regards to HAG and HS not working as intended?

Never said I had an issue with ganking in hi-sec. Never said I had an issue with Player Run Events.

If I had to say what seems wrong, it would be how security status is handled. You say we have our consequences as CONCORD will deal with any aggressive act once it happens. Thus, a person can be any security status and travel in hi-sec.

However, you ignore the whole reason CCP put ship restrictions on outlaws/criminals in hi-sec in the first place. To keep them out of a ship that could do harm.

So that being said, if CCP would just fix it so that you can never get into a ship in hi-sec if your security status says you shouldn't that would be more in line with their previous changes. No need to be podded by CONCORD.

Nope. CCP has not put any restrictions on ships in HS. They only made the Police chase ebil criminals because that has a cool bit of realism. Also realistic is being able to run away from the police.

And there is no existing mechanic that bars anyone from boarding a ship that they can fly ('cept that ship being targeted). Adding such a mechanic is ridiculous.

And yet avoiding CONCORD's consequences is a banning offense. Not sure I'm buying that.

There wasn't an existing mechanic to prevent you from tanking CONCORD at one point and yet CCP had to do that as well.

And with that I think we are at a agree to disagree point.

I can see where someone involved in PvP would not want to get locked out of a ship in hi-sec because of their security status. But I don't agree that that fits with what CCP has done in the past with hi-sec.

In my opinion, it is inconsistent to shoot on site a ship of an outlaw/criminal and yet let them pass when there are means for them to equip after passing CONCORD.

I know you disagree.

A ship containing a ship that was used to gank should be destroyed by concord for being an accoplace to the crime.

A ship containing a ship that was used to gank should be destroyed by concord for being an accoplace to the crime.

Oooh, new way to grief mining corps. Join, ask their orca toon to bring your mining frig out to the belt -> get CONCORDED -> Orca Dies

Glad to know you're thinking the consequences through.

Maybe he's really trying to sneakily buff ganking and this is his cunning plan.

Guys, concord, highsec, ganking blah blah, is fine!! it is what makes eve -> eve.

We are not saying remove all ganking or ship storage in the orca in highsec, we are saying revert ganking back to how it was for 7 years prior, where if you had -10 sec you had to gate camp in low sec and not continue to gank in highsec by exploiting the orcas ship bay.

Now with goons inifite hulkageddon announcement, i see this fix coming very, very soon!

This is not an exploit just a game mechanic. A game mechanic which i actualy think is fair. Afterall all this QQ about miners wanting sp's back for wasted sp, and that indy skills cant merge over to pvp. This is a example of a ideal way to use your old mineing orca