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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.09.14 19:41:00 -
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Actually this is not just a random guess. I actually took some measurements (not enough I admit) and tried fitting some curves with it. The one that fitted the best is
C = C_0(1-1/cosh(tau*t))
Basically the thought was that the recharge was not quite exponential (the curve you get very familiar with in basic circuit analisys course) but close though.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.09.14 19:41:00 -
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Actually this is not just a random guess. I actually took some measurements (not enough I admit) and tried fitting some curves with it. The one that fitted the best is
C = C_0(1-1/cosh(tau*t))
Basically the thought was that the recharge was not quite exponential (the curve you get very familiar with in basic circuit analisys course) but close though.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.14 20:13:00 -
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"Does anyone actually use any of these shield recharge mods at the moment??!?!"
I do and I love haveing a 39second recharge. It works well as the lower the sheilds get the faster they charge up makeing them hard to compare to boosters. Just training up Battleship skills now for more testing.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.14 20:13:00 -
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"Does anyone actually use any of these shield recharge mods at the moment??!?!"
I do and I love haveing a 39second recharge. It works well as the lower the sheilds get the faster they charge up makeing them hard to compare to boosters. Just training up Battleship skills now for more testing.
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.15 13:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Pottsey
I do and I love haveing a 39second recharge.
Congratulations, your hard facts defy my theory!!!
Would be interested to know your ship type and setup 
CB.
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.15 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
I do and I love haveing a 39second recharge.
Congratulations, your hard facts defy my theory!!!
Would be interested to know your ship type and setup
CB.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.15 15:46:00 -
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Not in the mood to cut and paste or type it up again so read http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=108489
I still need to get my hands on a shield relay and flux T2 modules which should speed the charge rate up even more. Hopefully BS skill should be trained up by the end of the week so I can do some testing with those.
If there is any testing you want me to do send me a eve mail or leave a message here.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.15 15:46:00 -
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Not in the mood to cut and paste or type it up again so read http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=108489
I still need to get my hands on a shield relay and flux T2 modules which should speed the charge rate up even more. Hopefully BS skill should be trained up by the end of the week so I can do some testing with those.
If there is any testing you want me to do send me a eve mail or leave a message here.
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.15 16:06:00 -
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Ah, I'm talking about tanking a BS spawn or PvP, rather than indy self-defense...
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.15 16:06:00 -
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Ah, I'm talking about tanking a BS spawn or PvP, rather than indy self-defense...
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.15 17:06:00 -
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Give me a week or two to do this skill training and I hope to fit a BS for combat with shield recharger's.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.15 17:06:00 -
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Give me a week or two to do this skill training and I hope to fit a BS for combat with shield recharger's.
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.17 13:04:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=109867
PDU II's look good for BS passive shield recharging. A whole bunch of these would give you insane cap as well! Must get round to trying it one day...
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.17 13:04:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=109867
PDU II's look good for BS passive shield recharging. A whole bunch of these would give you insane cap as well! Must get round to trying it one day...
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.17 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 17/09/2004 13:45:26
It all depends on whatĘs better having a fast recharge or slower recharge but more shield points per second. At the momenet I am finding it hard to work out which is better.
Going try to get my hands on some tonight. PDU II's should be better then Power Relays IĘs but I think Power Relays IIĘs would work better. Shame they are not on the market yet. Lets hope for the 28th.
Thanks for the info didnĘt realise how good PDU II are.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.17 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 17/09/2004 13:45:26
It all depends on whatĘs better having a fast recharge or slower recharge but more shield points per second. At the momenet I am finding it hard to work out which is better.
Going try to get my hands on some tonight. PDU II's should be better then Power Relays IĘs but I think Power Relays IIĘs would work better. Shame they are not on the market yet. Lets hope for the 28th.
Thanks for the info didnĘt realise how good PDU II are.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.17 14:02:00 -
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Taking a 2nd look I am not so sure now. Its two PDU II = +17.7% charge boost and 10% hitpoint boost while two Relays would be 40% charge boost more if Tech II. I guess I still need to buy some for testing.
PDU IĘs against Relays IĘs and I found I was better off with the Relays. Though I didnĘt test with Rechargers IIĘs in the mid slot. Going do that tonight.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.17 14:02:00 -
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Taking a 2nd look I am not so sure now. Its two PDU II = +17.7% charge boost and 10% hitpoint boost while two Relays would be 40% charge boost more if Tech II. I guess I still need to buy some for testing.
PDU IĘs against Relays IĘs and I found I was better off with the Relays. Though I didnĘt test with Rechargers IIĘs in the mid slot. Going do that tonight.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.17 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 17/09/2004 18:18:15
The best I could get with PDU IIĘs was 10.9 shields points per second. On a hauler not a battleship as thatĘs still training. Not very good I can hit over 16 with passive recharge and no PDUĘs.
Wait a min I now have more Power grid and can fit a 2nd mid shield extender that boosts me up to 15.4
If I take 1 PDU out and stick in a Relay thatĘs 16.7
I wonder what would happen if I used 2 reactors IIĘs and fit relays mixed with shield extenders.
EDIT:
Will I finished testing and from a shields points per second point of view I found the best combination on my ship was only 3 PDUĘs IIĘs mixed with shield recharges IIĘs and shield extenders IIĘs. ThatĘs in a Mark5 hauler. The other low slots where relays IĘs. That got me over 18 points per second.
Pure PDUĘs gave almost half the points per second at around 10.
The questions is still whatĘs better faster recharge or more points pre second. As the shields are none linear I have no idea. What we need to know is what point do shields recharge at there fastest and how many points per second does the fast charge and the high cap get at the point.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2004.09.17 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 17/09/2004 18:18:15
The best I could get with PDU IIĘs was 10.9 shields points per second. On a hauler not a battleship as thatĘs still training. Not very good I can hit over 16 with passive recharge and no PDUĘs.
Wait a min I now have more Power grid and can fit a 2nd mid shield extender that boosts me up to 15.4
If I take 1 PDU out and stick in a Relay thatĘs 16.7
I wonder what would happen if I used 2 reactors IIĘs and fit relays mixed with shield extenders.
EDIT:
Will I finished testing and from a shields points per second point of view I found the best combination on my ship was only 3 PDUĘs IIĘs mixed with shield recharges IIĘs and shield extenders IIĘs. ThatĘs in a Mark5 hauler. The other low slots where relays IĘs. That got me over 18 points per second.
Pure PDUĘs gave almost half the points per second at around 10.
The questions is still whatĘs better faster recharge or more points pre second. As the shields are none linear I have no idea. What we need to know is what point do shields recharge at there fastest and how many points per second does the fast charge and the high cap get at the point.
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