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masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 505	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:20:00 - [1] - Quote For those of you who don't know, the current build on the test server has some "improvements" to the inventory system. Instead of separating out all the containers and hangers into different windows everything is now a single window. This makes it very time consuming to move assets about. I strongly recommend testing it before it goes live. Things are only impossible until they are not.
Winterbliss E X C E P T I O N Persona Non Gratis 5	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:22:00 - [2] - Quote It reduces the excel in space element, I quite like it myself.
Camios Minmatar Bread Corporation 102	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:26:00 - [3] - Quote yes, because drag'n'drop "on a tree" is difficult. Also, you can easily create multiple windows if you like. I love ranting
Cebraio Starfire Oasis 56	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:27:00 - [4] - Quote Don't panic! [TM] Quote: If this GÇ£One window to rule them allGÇ¥ doesnGÇÖt sound like the thing just for you then donGÇÖt panic, you can still open up multiple windows if you want to (either through right-click options or SHIFT clicking tree entries), but we are hoping the need to do so is all but eliminated with the introduction of the tree view. From the Dev Blog that explains it all.
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 395	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:28:00 - [5] - Quote In other words: "I hate changing a old outdated habits."
masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 506	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:29:00 - [6] - Quote Cebraio wrote: Don't panic! [TM] Quote: If this GÇ£One window to rule them allGÇ¥ doesnGÇÖt sound like the thing just for you then donGÇÖt panic, you can still open up multiple windows if you want to (either through right-click options or SHIFT clicking tree entries), but we are hoping the need to do so is all but eliminated with the introduction of the tree view. From the Dev Blog that explains it all. Sure, for now. How long until it is removed and I am forced to use the tree? Things are only impossible until they are not.
Beledia Ilphukiir Proffessional Experts Group 0	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:31:00 - [7] - Quote Cebraio wrote: Don't panic! [TM] Quote: If this GÇ£One window to rule them allGÇ¥ doesnGÇÖt sound like the thing just for you then donGÇÖt panic, you can still open up multiple windows if you want to (either through right-click options or SHIFT clicking tree entries), but we are hoping the need to do so is all but eliminated with the introduction of the tree view. From the Dev Blog that explains it all. The problem is, that the windows you open don't stay the way you set them up. The game doesn't remember where you put them or what was in them unlike in the current system. This means every time you dock, jump to another system or access a container your setup gets ****** up and all your work setting up the windows went down the drain.
Eugene Spencer Rodents of Unusual Size 132	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:43:00 - [8] - Quote OP is either a moron or doesn't have a shift key. *I have a specific comb for my beard.*
Metal Icarus xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire 163	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:50:00 - [9] - Quote I have tried said inventory and I will agree with one thing and one thing only: It will take some time to get used to. But it WILL save time, it WILL reduce windows and it makes it WAY easier to sort through your mods, ammo and escorts. "OP is either a moron or doesn't have a shift key." -Eugene Spencer
Daneirkus Auralex The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore 107	Posted - 2012.05.14 14:58:00 - [10] - Quote Eugene Spencer wrote: OP ... doesn't have a shift key. Not empty quo

Mortimer Civeri Aliastra Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2012.05.14 15:09:00 - [11] - Quote Yes, yes, Chicken Little, the sky really is indeed falling. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Aiwha 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda 350	Posted - 2012.05.14 15:48:00 - [12] - Quote Mortimer Civeri wrote: Yes, yes, Chicken Little, the sky really is indeed falling. I think part of it dropped on his head. Regards, LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 731	Posted - 2012.05.14 15:49:00 - [13] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Cebraio wrote: Don't panic! [TM] Quote: If this GÇ£One window to rule them allGÇ¥ doesnGÇÖt sound like the thing just for you then donGÇÖt panic, you can still open up multiple windows if you want to (either through right-click options or SHIFT clicking tree entries), but we are hoping the need to do so is all but eliminated with the introduction of the tree view. From the Dev Blog that explains it all. Sure, for now. How long until it is removed and I am forced to use the tree? Heh, you mean like the chat blinking thing on the Neocom... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 351	Posted - 2012.05.14 15:50:00 - [14] - Quote I for one welcome our new single window tree overlords This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 778	Posted - 2012.05.14 15:55:00 - [15] - Quote The only thing ruining in here is masternerdguy's posts.
March rabbit Trojan Trolls Red Alliance 174	Posted - 2012.05.14 16:01:00 - [16] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Cebraio wrote: Don't panic! [TM] Quote: If this GÇ£One window to rule them allGÇ¥ doesnGÇÖt sound like the thing just for you then donGÇÖt panic, you can still open up multiple windows if you want to (either through right-click options or SHIFT clicking tree entries), but we are hoping the need to do so is all but eliminated with the introduction of the tree view. From the Dev Blog that explains it all. Sure, for now. How long until it is removed and I am forced to use the tree? there is second way: unsub!
Fabulousli Obvious State War Academy Caldari State 28	Posted - 2012.05.14 16:40:00 - [17] - Quote Indeed it is the most idiotic thing introduced to the game in awhile. Anyone into industry and trading and using multi-windows to drag stuff around is going to be severely hindered. Yet another Dev team impresses the boss with shiny and not the customers. They don't play or use the game obviously. How they even thought what is up for testing is even a remote possibility of an improvement over what 'was'......sorry bit there just was not a pressing need for any change in this AT ALL. OP is right on the money. But this is after WEEKS after a bunch of us have been yelping in the longest thread going on the Sisi Forum. They are not listening as usual. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Lipbite Express Hauler 29	Posted - 2012.05.14 16:47:00 - [18] - Quote I'd gladly check it but still waiting for test server account reactivation - 3 days already. I thought this delay is about soon(tm) attitude and not about limiting access of bittervets to "oh hell im unsubbing - again" functionality / expansion.
stoicfaux 1057	Posted - 2012.05.14 17:11:00 - [19] - Quote I played with it on Sisi a week or so ago. It's less about getting used to a new interface/paradigm and more about a bad implementation. The whole thing was a bit counter-intuitive to me due to context not being preserved, small lines of text, no visual feedback, identically named ships cause problems, etc.. Before killing/deriding the messenger (the OP,) I strongly recommend that folks give the new unified window a try on Sisi. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1134	Posted - 2012.05.14 17:46:00 - [20] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: I played with it on Sisi a week or so ago. It's less about getting used to a new interface/paradigm and more about a bad implementation. The whole thing was a bit counter-intuitive to me due to context not being preserved, small lines of text, no visual feedback, identically named ships cause problems, etc.. Before killing/deriding the messenger (the OP,) I strongly recommend that folks give the new unified window a try on Sisi. This. It basically looks unfinished. Hopefully, there are some last minute tweaks to it.

Roime Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance 702	Posted - 2012.05.14 17:48:00 - [21] - Quote I heard EVE already died when they made the font readable, what next? In the beginning high security space was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 332	Posted - 2012.05.14 17:51:00 - [22] - Quote CHANGE IS SO VERY VERY HARD. Life must be hard for you.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1136	Posted - 2012.05.14 18:02:00 - [23] - Quote so it's like "file manager"? that sort of tree? I kind of like that The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6741	Posted - 2012.05.14 18:02:00 - [24] - Quote Cebraio wrote: Don't panic! [TM] Quote: If this GÇ£One window to rule them allGÇ¥ doesnGÇÖt sound like the thing just for you then donGÇÖt panic, you can still open up multiple windows if you want to (either through right-click options or SHIFT clicking tree entries), but we are hoping the need to do so is all but eliminated with the introduction of the tree view. From the Dev Blog that explains it all. GÇªtoo bad shift-clicking doesn't actually solve anything and instead just increases the amount of clicks needed to do anything (beyond the increase in clicks that the new UI already imposes). No, the Unified Inventory isn't ready for prime-time. It's a nice foundation GÇö now they just have to build and actual inventory management system on top of it. The fundamental problem is that they've assumed that you can unify all inventories and that a single window is a solution to some kind of problem. Neither is the case. Morganta wrote: so it's like "file manager"? that sort of tree?a I kind of like that It's like Windows Explorer in a world where we need Total Commander: outdated and inefficient and full of very odd assumptions and design choices. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
MadMuppet Kerguelen Station 345	Posted - 2012.05.14 18:14:00 - [25] - Quote It is going to frustrate a lot of players because there is no session-state memory. Yes, you can shift-click and open a new window, but the game does not remember that setting when you change sessions and that is one of the biggest issues with it. Want to pull out an Orca for a mining op? You will need to positions the windows each time you undock. Want to salvage wrecks? Either move the cargo bay up to near where you click to open the wreck/can or be ready to drag the mouse back and forth across the screen repeatedly to the loot all button (oh and don't bother trying to look at your cargo bay at the same time, it gets co-opted by the wreck/can contents when you open it). You want to move stuff between cans? Sure you can open them up using shift-click, but they don't update right, so until you close an open them again you may or may not have actually moved the items. Do you run a POS? Have fun with that. Please go to SiSi and try it for yourself. The Unified Inventory system for Inferno, which I would recommend everybody tryon SiSi, is going to be the next 'Door' for CCP. What it adds is worthless when we lose so much functionality.-á
Ohanka The Lone Patrol Tactical Narcotics Team 27	Posted - 2012.05.14 18:17:00 - [26] - Quote Hopefully they will stop this dumbfucking pathetic new system from going live. I don't see why they bring about stupid changes like this people don't want.
Montevius Williams Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void 306	Posted - 2012.05.14 18:21:00 - [27] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: For those of you who don't know, the current build on the test server has some "improvements" to the inventory system. Instead of separating out all the containers and hangers into different windows everything is now a single window. This makes it very time consuming to move assets about. I strongly recommend testing it before it goes live. Nothing to see here The new inventory on the test server is VASTLY superior to what we have now. You can do so much more with it. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
Vera Algaert Republic University Minmatar Republic 120	Posted - 2012.05.14 18:24:00 - [28] - Quote I like the new inventory UI.
Ohanka The Lone Patrol Tactical Narcotics Team 27	Posted - 2012.05.14 18:27:00 - [29] - Quote Vera Algaert wrote: I like the new inventory UI. another drone. frankly im sick of my UI being ****** up every update.
stoicfaux 1058	Posted - 2012.05.14 18:31:00 - [30] - Quote If haven't check the inventory system on Sisi recently, it's been vastly improved. I've retracted my reservations about it. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.



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