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Avathar Avaria	Posted - 2004.09.13 12:05:00 - [1] Anyone got a useable Tempest npc setup?For killing bs and cruiser rats? Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer.... Maybe self-destruction is the answer
Avathar Avaria	Posted - 2004.09.13 12:05:00 - [2] Anyone got a useable Tempest npc setup?For killing bs and cruiser rats? Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer.... Maybe self-destruction is the answer
ByBy Baby	Posted - 2004.09.13 12:39:00 - [3] Edited by: ByBy Baby on 13/09/2004 12:42:59 Edited by: ByBy Baby on 13/09/2004 12:41:17 Use 6x1200mm named if you can and 2 cruis missilelaunchers. 2 hardners 1 xl booster 1 tracking comp/ or the one module that give 30% extra/boost with the shield booster 1 cap rescharger 3 damage mod 3 powerdiagnostic The 1400 is broken as they are now. Cant hit a station if you wanted to.
ByBy Baby	Posted - 2004.09.13 12:39:00 - [4] Edited by: ByBy Baby on 13/09/2004 12:42:59 Edited by: ByBy Baby on 13/09/2004 12:41:17 Use 6x1200mm named if you can and 2 cruis missilelaunchers. 2 hardners 1 xl booster 1 tracking comp/ or the one module that give 30% extra/boost with the shield booster 1 cap rescharger 3 damage mod 3 powerdiagnostic The 1400 is broken as they are now. Cant hit a station if you wanted to.
jukriamrr	Posted - 2004.09.13 13:33:00 - [5] Also if you like sweat & blood ;) 6425mm 2 heavy nosferatu 1MWD 1tracking comp II 3cap rechargers II 2large armor repair or 1large and 1medium tech II 1explosive armor hardener 1kinetic armor hardener 2capa power relay 1damage mod Array of drones for fast-moving targets. Seems to work all right, though you have to be careful. I'd also recommend decent skills in engineering :)
jukriamrr	Posted - 2004.09.13 13:33:00 - [6] Also if you like sweat & blood ;) 6425mm 2 heavy nosferatu 1MWD 1tracking comp II 3cap rechargers II 2large armor repair or 1large and 1medium tech II 1explosive armor hardener 1kinetic armor hardener 2capa power relay 1damage mod Array of drones for fast-moving targets. Seems to work all right, though you have to be careful. I'd also recommend decent skills in engineering :)
Avathar Avaria	Posted - 2004.09.13 14:09:00 - [7] Thanks guys. My engineering skills are lacking, but will try the 1200mm guns to start with! Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer.... Maybe self-destruction is the answer
Avathar Avaria	Posted - 2004.09.13 14:09:00 - [8] Thanks guys. My engineering skills are lacking, but will try the 1200mm guns to start with! Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer.... Maybe self-destruction is the answer
Pacman	Posted - 2004.09.13 14:33:00 - [9] Could also try a combo of like 1200mm and 800's or something...instead of all 1200 if ur skills a lacking a bit
Pacman	Posted - 2004.09.13 14:33:00 - [10] Could also try a combo of like 1200mm and 800's or something...instead of all 1200 if ur skills a lacking a bit
Quintus Peritus	Posted - 2004.09.13 14:37:00 - [11] This works, but might take pretty high skill levels, I dunno.. 6x800mm, 2xSiege MWD, Webber, 3xCapRechargerII LargeArmorRep,3xHardeners, 2xDamageMod And before the usual constructive "That sucks, you will run out of cap, blah blah": Yes, it's true, it can't sustain the tank, but the main defense here is destructive power. You're supposed to kill them quick. Tactics? Well, I've only used it against Serpentis, and most of them get close, too close for them guns. But the great falloff, for close range weapons, means you have a viable window between 10-20km (BS targets down to 2km) or so, and enough damage so that you won't have to spend much cap on MWDrangekeeping. One burst is usually enough, if at all needed.. Frig swarms are a bit bothersome, but a dual torp hit kills most varieties, and a mix of medium/heavy drones can finish the rest. The webber is a great help here. Maybe not the best, but the poster wanted a usable setup, and this definitely is.
Quintus Peritus	Posted - 2004.09.13 14:37:00 - [12] This works, but might take pretty high skill levels, I dunno.. 6x800mm, 2xSiege MWD, Webber, 3xCapRechargerII LargeArmorRep,3xHardeners, 2xDamageMod And before the usual constructive "That sucks, you will run out of cap, blah blah": Yes, it's true, it can't sustain the tank, but the main defense here is destructive power. You're supposed to kill them quick. Tactics? Well, I've only used it against Serpentis, and most of them get close, too close for them guns. But the great falloff, for close range weapons, means you have a viable window between 10-20km (BS targets down to 2km) or so, and enough damage so that you won't have to spend much cap on MWDrangekeeping. One burst is usually enough, if at all needed.. Frig swarms are a bit bothersome, but a dual torp hit kills most varieties, and a mix of medium/heavy drones can finish the rest. The webber is a great help here. Maybe not the best, but the poster wanted a usable setup, and this definitely is.
Ravelin Eb	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:05:00 - [13] Quintus, you forgot to mention the need for a corpmate in an indy parked around a planet in the same system carrying spare ammo for those 800mm!!! Good guns when used at the right range but they chew through ammo. I use 4 on my Typhoon for missions but wouldn't want to stray too far from a station if I was using them. For 0.0 rat hunting it's often better to use 1200mm just to keep the ammo needs manageable. Ravelin Eb
Ravelin Eb	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:05:00 - [14] Quintus, you forgot to mention the need for a corpmate in an indy parked around a planet in the same system carrying spare ammo for those 800mm!!! Good guns when used at the right range but they chew through ammo. I use 4 on my Typhoon for missions but wouldn't want to stray too far from a station if I was using them. For 0.0 rat hunting it's often better to use 1200mm just to keep the ammo needs manageable. Ravelin Eb
Shocky	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:06:00 - [15] Edited by: Shocky on 13/09/2004 15:09:16 6x800mm/2xCruise or siege 3xCapII/webber/MWD 3xcap relay/1x Large Repairer/2xHardners Of course if you think you need more add an extra repairer or handner but it won't tank for very long.
Shocky	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:06:00 - [16] Edited by: Shocky on 13/09/2004 15:09:16 6x800mm/2xCruise or siege 3xCapII/webber/MWD 3xcap relay/1x Large Repairer/2xHardners Of course if you think you need more add an extra repairer or handner but it won't tank for very long.
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:25:00 - [17] projektiles are not for NPC hunt use lasers -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:25:00 - [18] projektiles are not for NPC hunt use lasers -------------------------------------------
Avathar Avaria	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Siddy projektiles are not for NPC hunt use lasers Lasers on a minmatar ship?Thats just not right Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer.... Maybe self-destruction is the answer
Avathar Avaria	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Siddy projektiles are not for NPC hunt use lasers Lasers on a minmatar ship?Thats just not right Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer.... Maybe self-destruction is the answer
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Avathar Avaria Originally by: Siddy projektiles are not for NPC hunt use lasers Lasers on a minmatar ship?Thats just not right maybe not - yet is still works beter and dont take ammo. nuff said -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Avathar Avaria Originally by: Siddy projektiles are not for NPC hunt use lasers Lasers on a minmatar ship?Thats just not right maybe not - yet is still works beter and dont take ammo. nuff said -------------------------------------------
Avathar Avaria	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:44:00 - [23] So give me a tempest setup with lasers then!I got minmatar and caldari bs trained, i rather avoid training amarr bs too! Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer.... Maybe self-destruction is the answer
Avathar Avaria	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:44:00 - [24] So give me a tempest setup with lasers then!I got minmatar and caldari bs trained, i rather avoid training amarr bs too! Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer.... Maybe self-destruction is the answer
JoCool	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:45:00 - [25] Siddy's right, get Mega Pulses + armor tanking. Fill your medslots with cap rechargers. Viola.
JoCool	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:45:00 - [26] Siddy's right, get Mega Pulses + armor tanking. Fill your medslots with cap rechargers. Viola.
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:48:00 - [27] actualy dual pulse lasers work beter on NPC's (its the trakking thinggy) -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.13 15:48:00 - [28] actualy dual pulse lasers work beter on NPC's (its the trakking thinggy) -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.13 16:54:00 - [29] unnerf peojektiles! nerf lasers /duks and covers -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.13 16:54:00 - [30] unnerf peojektiles! nerf lasers /duks and covers -------------------------------------------

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