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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
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Posted - 2012.05.14 16:42:00 -
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During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).
I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....
Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution? I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |

Jandice Ymladris
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
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Posted - 2012.05.14 17:15:00 -
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A classic one would be the Lavaworlds without Felsic Magma, but otuside that, I can't say I found odd resourceworlds so far.
I do agree with you that the world you found must have some sort of story to tell. Can you tell the location of this bizarre world? Or mail it to me if it's in a place you don't want publicly know. Can see if it's linked to some story or event. |

Niko medes
Sonoran Shadow
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Posted - 2012.05.14 18:40:00 -
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I too would love to see if any information could be found on this "dead" planet that you've discovered.
Good find!  |

Jandice Ymladris
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
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Posted - 2012.05.14 21:02:00 -
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Looked up about anything I could come up with, from the Lethal Virus project to the Sansha attacks on planets, nothing came up for the world/system that might explain the weird phenomenon.
My personal explanation? Massive impact eliminated almost all life, too little left for the survivers to feed on, save for the autotrophs, who now efast on the countless dead lifeforms. |

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:10:00 -
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I can see a massive impact killing off all the complex lifeforms...but ALL the bacteria?! Those things are hard to kill. I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:14:00 -
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...probably it just did not develope...and carbon is not bound to "formal living" things (see Chondrites for reference) |

Jandice Ymladris
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
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Posted - 2012.05.15 16:03:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:I can see a massive impact killing off all the complex lifeforms...but ALL the bacteria?! Those things are hard to kill.
The *only* thing I can think of is that the autotrophs produce a powerful antibiotic as part of their biological processes which slowly killed everything on the planet, including the bacteria. Like penicillin only deadly. I'm no biologist, I have no clue if that's possible or what else could wipe out bacteria like that.
Good point you make on the bacteria, it invalidates my assumption. Could either be natural or a bio-engineered lifeform who is capable of doing such thing. |

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2012.05.16 02:20:00 -
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Excessive UVC radiation from the star and depleted upper atmosphere?
Though the UVC would probably kill off the autotrophs too.
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Korbin Valenroth
White Mango
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Posted - 2012.05.28 00:01:00 -
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This is worth a study. Do you know any other facts that might give some information about this planet? For example; How eccentric is the orbit? What kind of star does it orbit? What other resources are there? I am a scientist by trade (Eve and RL) so I find this interesting. |

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
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Posted - 2012.05.28 12:06:00 -
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Korbin Valenroth wrote:This is worth a study. Do you know any other facts that might give some information about this planet? For example; How eccentric is the orbit? What kind of star does it orbit? What other resources are there? I am a scientist by trade (Eve and RL) so I find this interesting.
Planet: Temperate Temperature: 300 K Orbit Radius: 1.006 AU Eccentricity: 0.012 Mass: 4.8e + 24 kg Density: 6464.1 q/cm3 Surface Gravity: 10.1 m/s^2 Escape Velocity: 10.7 km/s Orbit Period: 156 days Pressure: Very Low Radius 5,610 km
Resources: Aqueous Liquids: ~15% Autotrophs: ~45% Carbon Compounds: ~67% Complex Organisms: 0% Microorganisms: 0%
System's Sun: Type: K5 (Orange Bright) Temperature: 4421 K Spectral Class: K3 V Luminosity: 0.03 Age: 19,019,000,000 Radius: 200,400 km
I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |

Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2012.05.30 03:03:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).
I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....
Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution? there is also one or 2 wormhole-space planets that not only ahve NAMES, but have interesting irregular resource distributions. |

Bl4ck Ph03n1x
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:41:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:I can see a massive impact killing off all the complex lifeforms...but ALL the bacteria?! Those things are hard to kill.
The *only* thing I can think of is that the autotrophs produce a powerful antibiotic as part of their biological processes which slowly killed everything on the planet, including the bacteria. Like penicillin only deadly. I'm no biologist, I have no clue if that's possible or what else could wipe out bacteria like that.
No, natural selection and adaption would have made the remaining bacterias immune to the said antibiotics.
The only thing that can kill 100% of the lifeforms is prolonged exposure to heavy radiations. My guess is that some cataclysm have killed everything, leaving only a few autotrophs on an empty planet. Maybe they even were brought later, by human interference.
I'm thinking: is this system one of those shattered by the wormholes openings? |

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:13:00 -
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I don't know about being shattered by the wormhole openings, but it is in the same region as the EVE gate (Genesis) I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |

Horatius Caul
Kitzless
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:36:00 -
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Hmmm... could be worth investigating. I'm pretty sure what system and what planet it is.
It's possible that it was artificially seeded with algae or lichen or something designed to produce atmospheric gases, with no need for microbiotics. Early-stage terraforming. Amarrad - Amarr language project |

MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Persona Non Gratis
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:05:00 -
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Fungal life but no bacterial? Suggests at some point recently the fungi evolved to produce antibiotics. Thing is, if it's anything like our biosphere here on Earth, that planet will eventually wind up totally lifeless without bacteria.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.06.01 06:25:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:Korbin Valenroth wrote:This is worth a study. Do you know any other facts that might give some information about this planet? For example; How eccentric is the orbit? What kind of star does it orbit? What other resources are there? I am a scientist by trade (Eve and RL) so I find this interesting. Planet: Temperate Temperature: 300 K Orbit Radius: 1.006 AU Eccentricity: 0.012 Mass: 4.8e + 24 kg Density: 6464.1 q/cm3 Surface Gravity: 10.1 m/s^2 Escape Velocity: 10.7 km/s Orbit Period: 156 days Pressure: Very Low Radius 5,610 km Resources: Aqueous Liquids: ~15% Autotrophs: ~45% Carbon Compounds: ~67% Complex Organisms: 0% Microorganisms: 0% System's Sun: Type: K5 (Orange Bright) Temperature: 4421 K Spectral Class: K3 V Luminosity: 0.03 Age: 19,019,000,000 Radius: 200,400 km
...oh man....you are misleading us with the headline. read AUTOTROPHS and CARBON COMPOUNDS...does not ring a bell??
This planet is everything else but dead |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.06.01 06:28:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Pinstar Colton wrote:During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).
I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....
Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution? there is also one or 2 wormhole-space planets that not only ahve NAMES, but have interesting irregular resource distributions.
Can you give a reference...cause that is really interesting |

Vindaloo Dhansak
Los Rastrojos
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Posted - 2012.06.11 01:12:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:Pinstar Colton wrote:*snip* there is also one or 2 wormhole-space planets that not only ahve NAMES, but have interesting irregular resource distributions. Can you give a reference...cause that is really interesting http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/J102834/II |

Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.06.11 09:17:00 -
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HAHA I lol'd.
If somebody doesn't remember, Eyjafjallajokull is the name of the icelandic volcano that screw'd with the european tarde routes for a week or soa year or two ago. |

Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries
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Posted - 2012.07.14 12:45:00 -
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Did you guys thought about non-carbon based life? There has been studies that prove the life can be born from other elements that has potential to bind molecules that are reactin on the enviroment and can in the way "breed" or replicate.
Edit: But for that, there would be much more alien or somehow different to human extraterrestrial races. In this.. eve pretty much lacks the realism here for this point. But there are I think lifeforms very different from the Earth fauna or even flora. |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.07.14 13:09:00 -
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Water words without bacteria/life? I find that spooky. You can see this vast blue ocean with all it's peaceful sounds and visuals... but completely devoid of life.
Makes you wonder how a "dead" world could look so beautiful.  Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries
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Posted - 2012.07.22 08:56:00 -
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I think I pretty much killed this thread by that comment... Everyone so positive... |

Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.07.22 13:38:00 -
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Droidyk wrote:Edit: But for that, there would be much more alien or somehow different to human extraterrestrial races. In this.. eve kind of lacks the realism here for this point. But there are I think lifeforms very different from the Earth fauna or even flora. Also not saying that there couldnt be galaxy without its own intelligent races and stuff. And we as Human races would come to it and claim it fot ourselfs.
The Templar One book mentions native lifeforms, such as kindof snakes, and voracious termites, but no mention to intelligent lifeforms has ever been made. |

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.23 02:48:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).
I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....
Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution? Irradiated by a war between two long-dead ancient races? Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.07.23 04:43:00 -
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Palovana wrote:Pinstar Colton wrote: Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution?
Irradiated by a war between two long-dead ancient races?
That would be a good setting after the collapse of the EVE Gate. Two very capable races destroying each other fighting to control the resources of the planet. Back when they still had the technology to wage that kind of war. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

Niko medes
Sonoran Shadow Black Mesa Complex
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Posted - 2012.07.23 21:46:00 -
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Tavin Aikisen wrote:Palovana wrote:Pinstar Colton wrote: Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution?
Irradiated by a war between two long-dead ancient races? That would be a good setting after the collapse of the EVE Gate. Two very capable races destroying each other fighting to control the resources of the planet. Back when they still had the technology to wage that kind of war.
It was my assumption as well that perhaps a war just after the EVE Gate collapsed is what caused this planet to be in it's current state.. |

Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries
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Posted - 2012.07.25 11:26:00 -
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Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:Droidyk wrote:Edit: But for that, there would be much more alien or somehow different to human extraterrestrial races. In this.. eve kind of lacks the realism here for this point. But there are I think lifeforms very different from the Earth fauna or even flora. Also not saying that there couldnt be galaxy without its own intelligent races and stuff. And we as Human races would come to it and claim it fot ourselfs. The Templar One book mentions native lifeforms, such as kindof snakes, and voracious termites, but no mention to intelligent lifeforms has ever been made.
Sorry but you didnt get my point here. |

Luna Mori
AmmuNacionale
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Posted - 2012.07.26 10:11:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).
I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....
Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution?
A seemly inexplicable phenomenon on my doorstep has always puzzled me. In the system of Uriok, there are three Temperate worlds well outside the established RL habitable zone. They are grouped somewhere between 6 and 20AU from a star smaller and cooler than Sol, yet they have vegetation and liquid surface water. One planet alone may not have been such a mystery; as we could have imagined some stable geothermal phenomena provided the heat for liquid water, or perhaps a tidal locked orbit. But all three? Even the hottest, brightest star would have trouble heating the surfaces of bodies at those distances.
It's nice to know there are many other scientists attempting to make sense of all these unusual aspects of our universe. Good luck.
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Hans Zwaardhandler
Borealis Mining Concern IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:29:00 -
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Luna Mori wrote:Pinstar Colton wrote:During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).
I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....
Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution? A seemly inexplicable phenomenon on my doorstep has always puzzled me. In the system of Uriok, there are three Temperate worlds well outside the established RL habitable zone. They are grouped somewhere between 6 and 20AU from a star smaller and cooler than Sol, yet they have vegetation and liquid surface water. One planet alone may not have been such a mystery; as we could have imagined some stable geothermal phenomena provided the heat for liquid water, or perhaps a tidal locked orbit. But all three? Even the hottest, brightest star would have trouble heating the surfaces of bodies at those distances. It's nice to know there are many other scientists attempting to make sense of all these unusual aspects of our universe. Good luck.
Not sure if this is possible or not, but what about internal heat from the planets from volcanoes and the sort, making sure that they could get heat and life going? Probably a thicker atmosphere as well, in order to trap and keep heat. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2012.07.29 22:11:00 -
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There's a far simpler solution to this mystery, I suspect: all the planets were randomly generated, and what you're seeing is the quirks of that procedural generation. |
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