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Aerith Deathbringer
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Posted - 2009.06.04 23:19:00 -
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Hello good people of the Eve forums! I come to you in need of a recommendation. A class of mine is requiring me to read non-fiction literature on American history. I'm really at a loss since I don't prefer any topic of history more than another, and therefore, can't really select a book. So, if anyone could recommend a topic to look into or put forth a book to read, that would be greatly appreciated! 
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.06.04 23:46:00 -
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Get some books on american involvement in central and south america and you'll find another significance of 9/11.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.06.04 23:57:00 -
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Industrial Revolution, westward expansion, Gold rush, prohibition era. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Deadly Serpent
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Posted - 2009.06.05 00:04:00 -
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Obligatory "Americans have a history?" post.
More like a short story.
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Epegi Givo
Amarr Moral Equivalent Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.05 00:04:00 -
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find one on WWII. ------------------------------------- My other alt is a Ferrari |

Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.06.05 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Deadly Serpent Obligatory "Americans have a history?" post.
More like a short story.
Damnit I was beat to it.
Ah well, To be constructive though, you could ask your local library. |

KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.06.05 00:14:00 -
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This is not intended to come across as rude in any way whatsoever, apologies in advance if it unintentionally sounds as though it is. 'America' is really only 500 years old, a baby compared to many other places. You only have a handful of options for the significant events in history. I'm not referring to the things like wars in the last century or changes in politics but the most significant events that have shaped it. You've got discovery/colonisation, independance and the civil war. Slightly below those but also very significant were probably Martin Luther King's civil rights movement, JFK assassination, World War II and the development of what is now the Internet. You might consider the history of the different peoples also, the black african, white european, hispanic or red indian for example.
What are you most interested in from history? The changes to culture, technology, politics or war? I'd recommend considering that and picking a topic, then have a look at sources like Wikipedia and check out one or two of the books in the references section at the bottom of the page. Alternatively, your teacher might suggest a good book on your chosen era.
I personally think the Wild West is probably the coolest part of US history. Everyone riding for new frontiers, cowboys, revolvers and saloon fights. Victorian Britain was all "Oh that gentleman was absolutely ghastly!" and bowler hats. |

Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.05 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 05/06/2009 01:44:15 Jim Crow Laws - Segregation in the US
Integration of the Armed Forces 1940-1965
The Tuskegee Airmen: The men who changed a nation
Wiki on the Tuskegee Syphilis study and the beginnings of conduct in research using human subjects. Very interesting topic. I have not read any of the books listed at the bottom of the wiki link, but this research along with much of what the ****'s did in WWII lead to many of the regulations that are imposed on research involving human subjects.
How the other Half Lives - topic on how the poor immigrants lived and progressed in the late 1800's and early 1900's New York.
Prohibition: Thirteen years that changed the America
The words we live by: Your annotated guide to the Constitution. - A link to a lecture with the author.
The Industrial Revolution in America: A Primary Source History of America's Transformation Into an Industrial Society.
That is a short list that I will stop with since it is getting late. I may put a few other things up tomorrow.
Oh yeah to those that say hey it has only been 500 years that is nothing compared to our place; that is a pretty ignorant comment to make when the guy was instructed to read some US non-fiction. The US may not have been around very long but a lot has gone on in that time whether or not you find it pertinent 
Slade
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 03:23:00 -
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Check out Howard Zinn's book, I can't remember the name, but search for him on Amazon or Google. Good read. |

Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.06.05 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Deadly Serpent Obligatory "Americans have a history?" post.
More like a short story.
When your the first country with the bomb you dont need a history  |

Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 03:31:00 -
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Journals of Lewis and Clark.
Have fun. |

Haydee Onna
Fashionable Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.05 04:21:00 -
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c.1870-1910 were some pretty interesting times. Reconstruction, true capitalist overlords, brazen machine politicians, Progressive reformers, and of course T.Roosevelt, who pretty much embodied both the best and the worst aspects of "Americanism."
Prohibition is another good option. True gangsters and an interesting parallel to the modern War on Drugs obsession.
(And to be fair, in terms of social and technological progress, energy expenditure and man-hours, the last 500 years represent many times more 'human history' than everything before it combined.)
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.05 06:03:00 -
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War of 1812 Spanish - American War
or: How the country with no history wiped the snot off two ex-empires. |

Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.05 07:25:00 -
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Lol at America having no history, it is the oldest and most robust continuous democracy. But I guess those Europeans who have managed to create the stumbleing bloated bureaucracy that is the EU in 1993 feel they have something to be proud of. Congrats on abdication of responsiblitiy guys *thumbs up*.
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Bestofworst
Gallente Double Eagle Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:05:00 -
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America doesn't need a history to bomb the **** out of your country. ---- <Insert Wit> |

Knopje
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Aerith Deathbringer American history
Britannica would be a good start as that contains lots of information about the Inca's, Mayans and Aztecs. I don't see why it could be difficult finding out information about American history. Nazca plains are also extemely interesting.
Short article on the Nazca 'lines'.
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Recon Three
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Recon Three on 05/06/2009 08:27:06 Lulz at the ******s in this thread who took "American History" as "U.S. History". America is a continent. U.S. is a country.
Lurn2harblarlharlhflflf.
******s. _____
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hedfunk
Caldari Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: hedfunk on 05/06/2009 08:29:56
Originally by: Awesome Possum War of 1812 Spanish - American War
or: How the country with no history wiped the snot off two ex-empires.
You realise America basically lost the 1812 war? Washington got razed to the ground. Not bad considering the British were fighting a war of far more importance. Napoleonic wars.
And by the time of the Spanish-American war, Spain had been no real power for a long time. Spain was at the height of it's empire in the Seventeenth century. It's glory days had been and gone long before the US existed.
Sorry to rain on your parade and all.
NINJA EDIT: The American west is interesting. Have a look at that OP. |

Ademaro Imre
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aerith Deathbringer Hello good people of the Eve forums! I come to you in need of a recommendation. A class of mine is requiring me to read non-fiction literature on American history. I'm really at a loss since I don't prefer any topic of history more than another, and therefore, can't really select a book. So, if anyone could recommend a topic to look into or put forth a book to read, that would be greatly appreciated! 
There are really, too many subjects. You have to find a personal interest first. And depending where you are from, you might find a subject of common history. In particular, there are an impressive amount of subjects involving the American Civil War. My favorite book on the American Civil War cost me over $90, and I plan on buying a new edition as soon as its out. You can get one at a library perhaps, but it is over 800 pages, Ordeal by Fire, The Civil War and Reconstruction. It is a well written book, that goes through and ties all of the events together and is one of the most, if not the most used, textbook by colleges on the Civil War.
While some parts of American history are rarely visited. Such as American politics of the 1920's and 1930's, where a wave of fascism overtook America, like its concurrent trend in Europe, it had its own regional distinctiveness.
You really have to find some topic or area of interest. |

Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jin Nib on 05/06/2009 08:52:44
Originally by: Recon Three Edited by: Recon Three on 05/06/2009 08:28:38 Edited by: Recon Three on 05/06/2009 08:27:06 Lulz at the ******s in this thread who took "American History" as "U.S. History". America is a continent. U.S. is a country.
Lurn2harblarlharlhflflf.
******s.
Edit : My bad, "mentally handicapped". Since ****** is censored, har.
Yay, you fail at understanding common usage in everyday English parlance.
And if you are referring to North America as the continent of America, then the only reason one would suspect that is because that is where the United States of America is located. Just so you might be able to understand that: North America is a continent, South America is a continent, and America generally refers to the country of USA.
But then I suppose you can be as dense as you like if it helps you cope. |

Ademaro Imre
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 05/06/2009 09:01:23
Originally by: hedfunk
You realise America basically lost the 1812 war? Washington got razed to the ground. Not bad considering the British were fighting a war of far more importance. Napoleonic wars.
And by the time of the Spanish-American war, Spain had been no real power for a long time. Spain was at the height of it's empire in the Seventeenth century. It's glory days had been and gone long before the US existed.
Sorry to rain on your parade and all.
NINJA EDIT: The American west is interesting. Have a look at that OP.
The war was a stalemate, but had the Treat of Ghent been scheduled to take place AFTER the Battle (slaughter) of New Orleans, the course of the war would have been very different and the signing perhaps canceled by the United States.
Speaking of which, Andrew Jackson (later President, and of dueling fame) who conducted the route at New Orleans, is a perfect candidate if the OP is interested in a biography. |

hedfunk
Caldari Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2009.06.05 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ademaro Imre Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 05/06/2009 09:01:23
Originally by: hedfunk
You realise America basically lost the 1812 war? Washington got razed to the ground. Not bad considering the British were fighting a war of far more importance. Napoleonic wars.
And by the time of the Spanish-American war, Spain had been no real power for a long time. Spain was at the height of it's empire in the Seventeenth century. It's glory days had been and gone long before the US existed.
Sorry to rain on your parade and all.
NINJA EDIT: The American west is interesting. Have a look at that OP.
The war was a stalemate, but had the Treat of Ghent been scheduled to take place AFTER the Battle (slaughter) of New Orleans, the course of the war would have been very different and the signing perhaps canceled by the United States.
Speaking of which, Andrew Jackson (later President, and of dueling fame) who conducted the route at New Orleans, is a perfect candidate if the OP is interested in a biography.
Perhaps. But the British were hardly utterly defeated as the post I was replying to suggested. And America backed away from Canada from that point on. The treaty might of perhaps of been different after New Orleans. I can't help but wonder what would of happened if Britain wasnt fighting Napoleon and sent a larger battle force to America. Things might of got interesting ;) |

Motaka
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Motaka on 05/06/2009 10:15:45
Originally by: Awesome Possum War of 1812 Spanish - American War
or: How the country with no history wiped the snot off two ex-empires.
What?you do realise you lost the war of 1812 right?
Fake edit.A draw at best,as in you failed in your invasion of Canada and had your capital burnt to the ground.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Motaka Edited by: Motaka on 05/06/2009 10:15:45
Originally by: Awesome Possum War of 1812 Spanish - American War
or: How the country with no history wiped the snot off two ex-empires.
What?you do realise you lost the war of 1812 right?
Fake edit.A draw at best,as in you failed in your invasion of Canada and had your capital burnt to the ground.
You know we'd eat canada today, right?  |

Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker
Originally by: Motaka Edited by: Motaka on 05/06/2009 10:15:45
Originally by: Awesome Possum War of 1812 Spanish - American War
or: How the country with no history wiped the snot off two ex-empires.
What?you do realise you lost the war of 1812 right?
Fake edit.A draw at best,as in you failed in your invasion of Canada and had your capital burnt to the ground.
You know we'd eat canada today, right? 
I would bloody well hope so. The US accounts for what? like 40% of the worlds total spending on military? Canada's defence budget is 16 billion dollars.
In other words, we are banking on your might. Thanks for footing the bill :p |

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.05 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Recon Three Edited by: Recon Three on 05/06/2009 08:28:38 Edited by: Recon Three on 05/06/2009 08:27:06 Lulz at the ******s in this thread who took "American History" as "U.S. History". America is a continent. U.S. is a country.
Lurn2harblarlharlhflflf.
******s.
Edit : My bad, "mentally handicapped". Since ****** is censored, har.
Handicapped indeed, America is universally known as being the USA, labeled North America, South America or the Americas other can tag along on too otherwise no. America is not a continent, it's two. |

Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.06.05 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Nib
Originally by: Intense Thinker
Originally by: Motaka Edited by: Motaka on 05/06/2009 10:15:45
Originally by: Awesome Possum War of 1812 Spanish - American War
or: How the country with no history wiped the snot off two ex-empires.
What?you do realise you lost the war of 1812 right?
Fake edit.A draw at best,as in you failed in your invasion of Canada and had your capital burnt to the ground.
You know we'd eat canada today, right? 
I would bloody well hope so. The US accounts for what? like 40% of the worlds total spending on military? Canada's defence budget is 16 billion dollars.
In other words, we are banking on your might. Thanks for footing the bill :p
Its all fun and games until you try something we dont like . |

Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.05 16:28:00 -
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Back to the OP in addition to the list I provided above I would say that there are numerous counter cultures that have sprung up in the US also that could be of interest.
Hippies Moonies K-K-K Scientology Early New Orleans Jazz scene PETA Amish and Quakers
to name a few
Originally by: Jin Nib Edited by: Jin Nib on 05/06/2009 08:52:44
Originally by: Recon Three Edited by: Recon Three on 05/06/2009 08:28:38 Edited by: Recon Three on 05/06/2009 08:27:06 Lulz at the ******s in this thread who took "American History" as "U.S. History". America is a continent. U.S. is a country.
Lurn2harblarlharlhflflf.
******s.
Edit : My bad, "mentally handicapped". Since ****** is censored, har.
Yay, you fail at understanding common usage in everyday English parlance.
And if you are referring to North America as the continent of America, then the only reason one would suspect that is because that is where the United States of America is located. Just so you might be able to understand that: North America is a continent, South America is a continent, and America generally refers to the country of USA.
But then I suppose you can be as dense as you like if it helps you cope.
Hailing from the East Coast of the US I am one of those that also hate it when people use the term America when referring to the Republic of the United States. It is a geographical misnomer and it should be stopped. Especially when people are trying to be derogatory. It makes them look even more imbecilic considering that when you say America it really means the whole of two continents. But I have pretty much given up the crusade to stop it since people are happy not seeing the difference.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.05 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Hailing from the East Coast of the US I am one of those that also hate it when people use the term America when referring to the Republic of the United States. It is a geographical misnomer and it should be stopped. Especially when people are trying to be derogatory. It makes them look even more imbecilic considering that when you say America it really means the whole of two continents. But I have pretty much given up the crusade to stop it since people are happy not seeing the difference.
Slade
That's fine, but the argument still stands that the USA is what people commonly use the word 'America' to refer to. Pretending that it isn't and then saying to people who use it, "Hur, hur, you're stoopids, cause America means a continent" is a rather lame attempt at an ad hominem attack. (In this case, towards no apparent purpose)
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 05/06/2009 17:10:06
Originally by: Jin Nib
That's fine, but the argument still stands that the USA is what people commonly use the word 'America' to refer to. Pretending that it isn't and then saying to people who use it, "Hur, hur, you're stoopids, cause America means a continent" is a rather lame attempt at an ad hominem attack. (In this case, towards no apparent purpose)
That is why I stopped pointing it out, but I still think it is funny and still role my eyes when people bring up that fact that, especially in the US, the general knowledge of world geography is severely lacking and no one wants to point out this one big error for what it is. I just chalk it up to being verbally lazy and just make it a habit to not use "America" when I mean the US or the Republic.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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