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Dumah Dakar
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Posted - 2004.09.13 18:22:00 -
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It's silly that a huge launcher is required to fire a cruise missile. I mean a cruise missile is not exactly an ICBM requiring a huge silo. Why not have a more specialized launcher. Suppose this launcher could be fitted to a frigate and allow 1 cruise missile or 1 torpedo to be fired before it needed to be reloaded. Perhaps give it an extra long reload time to balance it. Turn your Breacher into a topedo boat. :)
Just a thought, not necessarily a good one.
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Dumah Dakar
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Posted - 2004.09.13 18:22:00 -
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It's silly that a huge launcher is required to fire a cruise missile. I mean a cruise missile is not exactly an ICBM requiring a huge silo. Why not have a more specialized launcher. Suppose this launcher could be fitted to a frigate and allow 1 cruise missile or 1 torpedo to be fired before it needed to be reloaded. Perhaps give it an extra long reload time to balance it. Turn your Breacher into a topedo boat. :)
Just a thought, not necessarily a good one.
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whohuhwhat
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Posted - 2004.09.13 20:32:00 -
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Once upon a time Kestrels could fire Cruise missles and Torpedos. All the people who used them loved them and it was all good. Then some <insert bad word here> decided to train alts and made these suicide alts to slaughter Haulers all over empire. Then the carebears rose up from the ashes and cried and whinned and cried to the Dev's, "Save us, Save us".
Then the Gods let out a might cry and removed these mighty weapons from such disposable ships and the mighty <insert bad word here> cried as their once mighty disposable ships were stripped of their power.
And the carebears rejoiced.
And thus ended the days of Cruise and Torps on Frigs.
whohuhwhat
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whohuhwhat
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Posted - 2004.09.13 20:32:00 -
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Once upon a time Kestrels could fire Cruise missles and Torpedos. All the people who used them loved them and it was all good. Then some <insert bad word here> decided to train alts and made these suicide alts to slaughter Haulers all over empire. Then the carebears rose up from the ashes and cried and whinned and cried to the Dev's, "Save us, Save us".
Then the Gods let out a might cry and removed these mighty weapons from such disposable ships and the mighty <insert bad word here> cried as their once mighty disposable ships were stripped of their power.
And the carebears rejoiced.
And thus ended the days of Cruise and Torps on Frigs.
whohuhwhat
Director, WWJD
'STRIPPING A BELT NEAR YOU'
w00t for patch day
2004.08.10 18:19:08combatYour Inferno Torpedo I hits Serpentis Guard, do |
Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.14 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lagar on 14/09/2004 08:18:55
they were made that way cause no frigate were suposed to be able to use cruise missiles that could kill a frig in 2 missiles and in effect swarm a BS to death.. this is a balance issue that they fixed
tho yeah sometimes i want cruise missiles in a kestrel too.. heck i would love to se small size cruise missile launcher on the bomber class frigate..  but that is not likly going to happen
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.14 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lagar on 14/09/2004 08:18:55
they were made that way cause no frigate were suposed to be able to use cruise missiles that could kill a frig in 2 missiles and in effect swarm a BS to death.. this is a balance issue that they fixed
tho yeah sometimes i want cruise missiles in a kestrel too.. heck i would love to se small size cruise missile launcher on the bomber class frigate.. but that is not likly going to happen
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space fox
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Posted - 2004.09.16 15:12:00 -
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have you seen some of the rats: they seem to have 2 externaly mounted heavy missles: if these could be fitted but took up a high slot and had to be reloaded at a station/by a suport ship (titain?) i think they would be balnced.
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space fox
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Posted - 2004.09.16 15:12:00 -
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have you seen some of the rats: they seem to have 2 externaly mounted heavy missles: if these could be fitted but took up a high slot and had to be reloaded at a station/by a suport ship (titain?) i think they would be balnced.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.09.16 23:22:00 -
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It would be nice if you could fit a single cruise missile or Torpedo into a highslot without a launcher, and just have it strapped to the ship... you'd have to dock to reload, and you should only be able to this if you have a launcher hardpoint too.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.09.16 23:22:00 -
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It would be nice if you could fit a single cruise missile or Torpedo into a highslot without a launcher, and just have it strapped to the ship... you'd have to dock to reload, and you should only be able to this if you have a launcher hardpoint too.
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Posted - 2004.09.17 15:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Noriath
It would be nice if you could fit a single cruise missile or Torpedo into a highslot without a launcher, and just have it strapped to the ship... you'd have to dock to reload, and you should only be able to this if you have a launcher hardpoint too.
I like this idea, in the theoretical stages at least. We'd have to see how it would effect Frigate PvP and such, but the idea of strapping a pair of Torpedos to my Rifter for defense certainly appeals to me.
But with the current skill requirements, we'd need to train Zippo Lighter III, Duct Tape I and Point Away From Face II in order to do it. 
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Posted - 2004.09.17 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
It would be nice if you could fit a single cruise missile or Torpedo into a highslot without a launcher, and just have it strapped to the ship... you'd have to dock to reload, and you should only be able to this if you have a launcher hardpoint too.
I like this idea, in the theoretical stages at least. We'd have to see how it would effect Frigate PvP and such, but the idea of strapping a pair of Torpedos to my Rifter for defense certainly appeals to me.
But with the current skill requirements, we'd need to train Zippo Lighter III, Duct Tape I and Point Away From Face II in order to do it.
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Posted - 2004.09.17 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: space fox
have you seen some of the rats: they seem to have 2 externaly mounted heavy missles: if these could be fitted but took up a high slot and had to be reloaded at a station/by a suport ship (titain?) i think they would be balnced.
Remote Weapons Loading skill? :P
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Posted - 2004.09.17 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: space fox
have you seen some of the rats: they seem to have 2 externaly mounted heavy missles: if these could be fitted but took up a high slot and had to be reloaded at a station/by a suport ship (titain?) i think they would be balnced.
Remote Weapons Loading skill? :P
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.09.17 20:20:00 -
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Frigates with Cruise missiles sucked.
Unless you were a griefer or liked killing folks with alts in empire.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.09.17 20:20:00 -
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Frigates with Cruise missiles sucked.
Unless you were a griefer or liked killing folks with alts in empire.
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.09.18 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
Frigates with Cruise missiles sucked.
Unless you were a griefer or liked killing folks with alts in empire.
Seconded.
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.09.18 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
Frigates with Cruise missiles sucked.
Unless you were a griefer or liked killing folks with alts in empire.
Seconded.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.09.18 07:12:00 -
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Frigates are already pretty powerful and don't really need any more boosting.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.09.18 07:12:00 -
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Frigates are already pretty powerful and don't really need any more boosting.
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.18 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: space fox
have you seen some of the rats: they seem to have 2 externaly mounted heavy missles: if these could be fitted but took up a high slot and had to be reloaded at a station/by a suport ship (titain?) i think they would be balnced.
a gurustias interceptor rat?
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.18 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: space fox
have you seen some of the rats: they seem to have 2 externaly mounted heavy missles: if these could be fitted but took up a high slot and had to be reloaded at a station/by a suport ship (titain?) i think they would be balnced.
a gurustias interceptor rat?
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Dallenn
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Posted - 2004.09.18 11:58:00 -
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How about a T2 bomber frigate with special type of launcher?
The role of this kind of ship might be already filled with assault frigates though, the guns are just different.
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Dallenn
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Posted - 2004.09.18 11:58:00 -
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How about a T2 bomber frigate with special type of launcher?
The role of this kind of ship might be already filled with assault frigates though, the guns are just different.
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.09.18 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dallenn
How about a T2 bomber frigate with special type of launcher?
The role of this kind of ship might be already filled with assault frigates though, the guns are just different.
Nah, we are meant to be getting Bombers in Shiva. I think they are for use against static defenses and stastions, but it would be cool if they could have a 1 shot weapon.
They launch their cruise and then they gotta retire from the field to rearm, no rearming in space. Unless they allow the support cruisers to rearm bombers.
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.09.18 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dallenn
How about a T2 bomber frigate with special type of launcher?
The role of this kind of ship might be already filled with assault frigates though, the guns are just different.
Nah, we are meant to be getting Bombers in Shiva. I think they are for use against static defenses and stastions, but it would be cool if they could have a 1 shot weapon.
They launch their cruise and then they gotta retire from the field to rearm, no rearming in space. Unless they allow the support cruisers to rearm bombers.
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Reatu Krentor
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Posted - 2004.09.19 04:08:00 -
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well its not directly a bad idea but what about first thinking about heavy missiles before jumping to the big big missiles, would be nice if a frigate would be able to fit a heavy missile launcher designed for frigs, rate of fire could be tweaked so DoT(Damage over Time) would be lower or similar to a rocket launcher (rocket launcher having DoT of 6.25 (5.77 counting reload), std launcher DoT 5 (4.92)).
Suggestion launcher:
Heavy Missile Rack
ROF 25 secs
capacity 0.9
Powergrid 6 MW
Cpu 15 tf
DoT 6 (4.6875 counting reload)
Just a thought
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Reatu Krentor
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Posted - 2004.09.19 04:08:00 -
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well its not directly a bad idea but what about first thinking about heavy missiles before jumping to the big big missiles, would be nice if a frigate would be able to fit a heavy missile launcher designed for frigs, rate of fire could be tweaked so DoT(Damage over Time) would be lower or similar to a rocket launcher (rocket launcher having DoT of 6.25 (5.77 counting reload), std launcher DoT 5 (4.92)).
Suggestion launcher:
Heavy Missile Rack
ROF 25 secs
capacity 0.9
Powergrid 6 MW
Cpu 15 tf
DoT 6 (4.6875 counting reload)
Just a thought
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.09.19 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Cadman Weyland
Originally by: Dallenn
How about a T2 bomber frigate with special type of launcher?
The role of this kind of ship might be already filled with assault frigates though, the guns are just different.
Nah, we are meant to be getting Bombers in Shiva. I think they are for use against static defenses and stastions, but it would be cool if they could have a 1 shot weapon.
They launch their cruise and bombers.then they gotta retire from the field to rearm, no rearming in space. Unless they allow the support cruisers to rearm
*remembers star wars and the bombing runs* sorry, sometihng about that post about bombers just reminded me of starwars lol
bombers would be cool. i tihnk ccp are noew reailising the potential for specialised ships. bombers could perhaps be able to fire off 4 hench missiles, and would have to either dock or head back to a logistics ship to reload.
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.09.19 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Cadman Weyland
Originally by: Dallenn
How about a T2 bomber frigate with special type of launcher?
The role of this kind of ship might be already filled with assault frigates though, the guns are just different.
Nah, we are meant to be getting Bombers in Shiva. I think they are for use against static defenses and stastions, but it would be cool if they could have a 1 shot weapon.
They launch their cruise and bombers.then they gotta retire from the field to rearm, no rearming in space. Unless they allow the support cruisers to rearm
*remembers star wars and the bombing runs* sorry, sometihng about that post about bombers just reminded me of starwars lol
bombers would be cool. i tihnk ccp are noew reailising the potential for specialised ships. bombers could perhaps be able to fire off 4 hench missiles, and would have to either dock or head back to a logistics ship to reload.
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