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BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.06.13 09:35:00 - [31] I do love how you get so worked up its enjoyable to watch:). It seems our success only pushed you to come up with all these obsurd ideas, This is war it wont dumb down just so you guys can have it a bit easier and improve your stats on the killboard, grow a pair and get in the fight.
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.06.13 16:21:00 - [32] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader I do love how you get so worked up its enjoyable to watch:). It seems our success only pushed you to come up with all these obsurd ideas, This is war it wont dumb down just so you guys can have it a bit easier and improve your stats on the killboard, grow a pair and get in the fight. "Get in the fight" says.. the Militia whom is reduced to roaming in nothing but Inti's 90% of the time unless they have a BS blob handy. "Get in the fight", is what we say every night when we have to roam 10 to 30 jumps away from Minmatar/Amarr FW space, just so we can try to "find" a fight that doesn't "run" away.
Frank Monkey Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes	Posted - 2009.06.13 16:30:00 - [33] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader I do love how you get so worked up its enjoyable to watch:). It seems our success only pushed you to come up with all these obsurd ideas, This is war it wont dumb down just so you guys can have it a bit easier and improve your stats on the killboard, grow a pair and get in the fight. Battlestar Chicken has the neck to say "grow a pair", when he is personally called out and runs away... bAK bAK bAK Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and th SuperSonic Love Commandoes...
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.06.14 14:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Lebaneur On the Amarr front everything is under control at the moment. We have the Amarr exactly where we want them -- fighting fiercely for every system while we easily defend our own territory. Their main forces are cornered into Kamela and when ever they venture to move out an equal force is deployed to counter them. Good work. Keep it up warriors!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.14 14:54:00 - [35] Originally by: Furious Foot A screen flashes - and an unwashed, smelly foot appears on screen Yes Battelstar, keep running to highsec for 'better logistics' you carebear - remove your neutral pigdog noob-ship spies and remote-rapping alts from the war and probably, we remove our carriers too! - Furious Foot Star fraction intel support This is an indicator of how pathetic the Amarrian Militia truly is at the moment. Incapable of mounting operations in space they have taken to hiring new pilots to impersonate their enemies and camp stations 24/7 spouting nonsense in space. Furious Foot is paid and operated by the 24th Crusade and seems permanently active outside the Kamela station. Why might ask questions why this effort is not better spent by actually paying for combat ships to be used by the 24th Crusade paymaster himself - but we might as well ask why a cowardly dog runs from strange noises or a yellow-backed chicken runs from the dinner bell. This "tactic" reveals more than anything how desperate the 24th Crusade currently is. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.14 14:56:00 - [36] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader I do love how you get so worked up its enjoyable to watch:). It seems our success only pushed you to come up with all these obsurd ideas, This is war it wont dumb down just so you guys can have it a bit easier and improve your stats on the killboard, grow a pair and get in the fight. Stop hiding in stations while running your little spy pilots out in space perhaps? It does make you look very pathetic indeed. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Zanco Ceal Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.06.14 23:24:00 - [37] Its lowsec just shoot these RR ships. Simples Minmatar use out of militia cammandships to improve fleet tactics but so what. I see from the militia battle records that a lot of fighting has been going on over the last few hours. But this cannot be because we always run away from fights and stay docked! I also see from the star fraction records that it might have been a good thing to stay docked today. DonÆt call us weak, defeating a weak enemy is far too easy. You should state how skilled and invincible we are, and how when we appear on your ships scanners, the fear of your almost certain death shakes your body to its core. Fighting and winning over such an enemy would bring far more glory to you.
ChipMo Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.15 00:23:00 - [38] Originally by: Zanco Ceal Its lowsec just shoot these RR ships. Simples Minmatar use out of militia cammandships to improve fleet tactics but so what. I see from the militia battle records that a lot of fighting has been going on over the last few hours. But this cannot be because we always run away from fights and stay docked! I also see from the star fraction records that it might have been a good thing to stay docked today. DonÆt call us weak, defeating a weak enemy is far too easy. You should state how skilled and invincible we are, and how when we appear on your ships scanners, the fear of your almost certain death shakes your body to its core. Fighting and winning over such an enemy would bring far more glory to you. A few hours is of little consequence to a 6 month (and ongoing) campaign. The Amarrians are a capable enemy, however they are weak in spirit and valor. Tonight you may have shown yourselves, but where were you yesterday? The week before? A fortnight ago? This summitÆs archives plot the course of this campaign for anyone who wishes to read it. Throughout that one thing is clear, we never cower in stations. No matter what the odds we fight long and we fight hard. We experiment and we innovate with our tactics, some succeed some fail but we are consistent in all our efforts. Can the Amarrians say the same..?
Zverofaust	Posted - 2009.06.15 00:49:00 - [39] Nobody's saying you shouldn't run your neutral scouts and RRs and spies, BSC. All's fair in love and war. We're just saying you should admit you have to pull out your bag of tricks just to meet us on fair grounds. As for PIE's accusations, I've not been in a single Minmatar militia fleet which has utilized neutral logistics or command ships. I have never been in a fleet engaged with an Amarr fleet in which we had a spy -- at most we have spies in your communications channels who keep tabs on your fleet movements. Occasionally fleet members have brought in neutral probers/lookouts. All in all, at the end of the day, in no way shape or form do we rely on non-combatants and espionage and nuetral support characters to fight. And as I've said, you've made it perfectly clear you are incapable of so much as undocking without your neutrals undocking first. Are we envious? No. Angry? No. The Minmatar militia actually feels rather honoured that the Amarr have to go to such lengths to meet us on equal footing.
Secretary Phase	Posted - 2009.06.15 01:53:00 - [40] It indeed is interesting to see how the Minmatar utilize whole neutral alliances with notable cap-capabilities to wardec certain corps within the Amarr Militia, yet complaining about neutral new pilots with unclear allegiances, assuming they were engaged in espionage on their militia. Sources in the Amarr Militia tell me they know Mins have multiple spies in their communication channels, yet there's nothing they can do about it, so they don't moan about it. Assumingly, there are snitches in the Minmatar Militia as well, but as Prof. Noid told me, the fear and distrust they seed is actually more devastating then what they actually achieve by themselves.

Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.06.15 03:51:00 - [41] Originally by: Zanco Ceal Its lowsec just shoot these RR ships. Simples Minmatar use out of militia cammandships to improve fleet tactics but so what. I see from the militia battle records that a lot of fighting has been going on over the last few hours. But this cannot be because we always run away from fights and stay docked! I also see from the star fraction records that it might have been a good thing to stay docked today. DonÆt call us weak, defeating a weak enemy is far too easy. You should state how skilled and invincible we are, and how when we appear on your ships scanners, the fear of your almost certain death shakes your body to its core. Fighting and winning over such an enemy would bring far more glory to you. Where the hell do you pull this nonsense from? Please show proof or STFU.. Just because your corp has to use Neutral Covt Ops alts (cough *Anna Vihzera* cough) to gank people doesn't mean everyone else does. I can tell you 100% for sure that I've "NEVER" been in a Militia fleet that had a neutral fleeted up. The only "non" Minmatar's I've ever seen fleeted up were Gallente Militia members when they were boered with Caldari or if we were on a OMS run.
Eran Mintor Minmatar Kha'rific-Mintor Outriders.	Posted - 2009.06.15 05:26:00 - [42] Originally by: Zverofaust Nobody's saying you shouldn't run your neutral scouts and RRs and spies, BSC. All's fair in love and war. End of discussion. Quit your *****in'. ------------------------------------------------
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.06.15 07:22:00 - [43] This thread is funny to read, you try to hold the high ground and yet get torn to peices' even the great star fraction came have a look. Chipmo you say where were we yesterday and the week before that and the month before that. We were in another system killing minmitar and pirates under your nose's. And mutin i wouldnt call it spy'ing i'd call it counter espionage as due to our intel 2 spies have been banned from our vent. One was a dark spie who wasnt so good as he decided to key up in our vent channel and give us intel about ourselves. The other was pointed out by out counter espionage team. Thank you though this thread is amusing me and most of the amarr militia, keep the trolling and moaning going, we may start taking pitty on you.
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.06.15 12:17:00 - [44] Edited by: Mutnin on 15/06/2009 12:19:26 Originally by: BattleStar Crusader This thread is funny to read, you try to hold the high ground and yet get torn to peices' even the great star fraction came have a look. Chipmo you say where were we yesterday and the week before that and the month before that. We were in another system killing minmitar and pirates under your nose's. And mutin i wouldnt call it spy'ing i'd call it counter espionage as due to our intel 2 spies have been banned from our vent. One was a dark spie who wasnt so good as he decided to key up in our vent channel and give us intel about ourselves. The other was pointed out by out counter espionage team. Thank you though this thread is amusing me and most of the amarr militia, keep the trolling and moaning going, we may start taking pitty on you. You really have a odd sense of delusion. You really should quit looking at your own kill board if you really think you win every fight as you keep trying to elude too. As for your spies in our Militia channel, I could really give a crap about. FW is far too easy to get people in to worry about that. Keep up with the program, what I was complaining about your your pathetic use of neutrals in your fleets. If you were so good as you always love to tell everyone, you wouldn't need to hide behind neutrals just to come fight us. As for Zverofaust, he damn sure doesn't speak for everyone on the subject of neutral alts, because I know most of us think your use of them is pretty freaking gay..
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.06.15 12:22:00 - [45] Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 15/06/2009 12:21:56 Why would i look at your kill board dear slave, myself and my corperation have more kill's and loss's on the amaar militia kill baord than on your own. You don't even post all your kills. AS for nuetrals in fleet again you persist with your constant whining and crying about it. Please do continue and provide entertainment whilst we wait for the next culling of you people. Its shame we all arnt based with the basic knowledge of tactics, maybe you would then understand and comprehend.
Secretary Phase	Posted - 2009.06.15 14:48:00 - [46] Edited by: Secretary Phase on 15/06/2009 14:49:30 Originally by: Mutnin Edited by: Mutnin on 15/06/2009 12:19:26 FW is far too easy to get people in to worry about that. Keep up with the program, what I was complaining about your your pathetic use of neutrals in your fleets. I agree - the use of one single remote repping BS (Mr. Xeno) who in most of the time remote reps his own cousin is indeed pathetic. The Minmatar Militia does it right - bringing in a whole neutral alliance in remote repping carriers is the way to go. I must say I am impressed with this degree of determination and the no nonsense attitude displayed by the Minmatar militia. Quote: If you were so good as you always love to tell everyone, you wouldn't need to hide behind neutrals just to come fight us. cough
Eran Mintor Minmatar Kha'rific-Mintor Outriders.	Posted - 2009.06.16 01:29:00 - [47] Well to clarify, although I think this whole discussion is utterly stupid, read: you are insulting yourselves; Star Fraction is in the war-zone due to their own will. Nobody invited them here (although they are welcome to stay so long as they keep their cross-hairs off Minmatar) but I don't believe you should have them set "neutral" if they're firing on you. That isn't the brightest standings to give them.
Secretary Phase	Posted - 2009.06.16 15:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Eran Mintor Well to clarify, although I think this whole discussion is utterly stupid, read: you are insulting yourselves; Star Fraction is in the war-zone due to their own will. Nobody invited them here (although they are welcome to stay so long as they keep their cross-hairs off Minmatar) but I don't believe you should have them set "neutral" if they're firing on you. That isn't the brightest standings to give them. Well - me and my associates are not partaking in the conflict at all, but regulary doing business leads to contacts with militias on both sides. Of course it is very well possible to set SF red for militia corps and individual militia pilots, but that doesn't change the fact that they are not a valid wartarget, atacking them will result in gate gun aggression and in sec status loss and they have a fleet of remote repping carriers helping the Minmatar - if this is an insult to myself/the Amarr militia, then complaints by the Minmatar about neutral lowly skilled characters in lowest end frigates whose allegeiance isn't even known as well as one (!) remote repping battleship is even more so. Moreover, you don't hear many complaints by the Amarr about a ~100 member neutral alliance joining the fight for the minmatar despite being outnumbered by 22% even without them, whereas you hear complaints by the Minmatar about a couple of noobships and a RR BS all the time. Not only are SF actively helping with money, RR and intel, they also wardec few corps to actively engage them and disrupt their resupply routes in highsec, whereas wardeccing SF in return is financially not possible for most militia corps and entirely impossible for the main bulk of the 24th IC due to concord restrictions. Not being a part of the war nor intending to join it, I don't complain, but must say most of the lop-sided Minmatar opinions expressed in this thread deny me to have any respect for them.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.16 15:33:00 - [49] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 16/06/2009 15:33:43 Originally by: Secretary Phase Of course it is very well possible to set SF red for militia corps and individual militia pilots, but that doesn't change the fact that they are not a valid wartarget, atacking them will result in gate gun aggression and in sec status loss and they have a fleet of remote repping carriers helping the Minmatar - if this is an insult to myself/the Amarr militia, then complaints by the Minmatar about neutral lowly skilled characters in lowest end frigates whose allegeiance isn't even known as well as one (!) remote repping battleship is even more so. You lie like the craven dog you are. The moment SF carriers rep the Tribal Liberation Front they are flagged as engageable targets and 24th Crusade are free to initiate aggression. We go so far as to carry rep-drones on most classes of warship simply to give this opportunity for 24th Crusaders to involve themselves if they think they are able. Usually the opportuntiy is not taken. Quote: Moreover, you don't hear many complaints by the Amarr about a ~100 member neutral alliance joining the fight for the minmatar despite being outnumbered by 22% even without them, whereas you hear complaints by the Minmatar about a couple of noobships and a RR BS all the time. Actually we have heard an awful lot of complaints from the Amarrians about this. Pitiful whining indeed - especially when judged against the Providence capital blob that the 24th Crusade can and has called upon at times to bolster their fleet actions (representing what? 2000-3000? additional pilots worth of resources?) Quote: Not only are SF actively helping with money, RR and intel, they also wardec few corps to actively engage them and disrupt their resupply routes in highsec, whereas wardeccing SF in return is financially not possible for most militia corps and entirely impossible for the main bulk of the 24th IC due to concord restrictions. Utter rot. I refuse to believe it is financially impossible for the cowardly 24th Crusade corporations to raise a collective 50m Isk per week to war-dec in support of their ideals when each of them is spending many times that figure in routine ship losses by the day and the financial rewards of complexing afford them an income far in advance of these costs. You "Secretary Phase" are a cringeworthy transparent cats-paw of the most gutless Amarrians in this conflict attempting to tell lies and spread deceit to occlude your failure in space. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Aphoxakhan Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.16 15:51:00 - [50] Hah hah, yes! Fight us, spill our blood! The mock subversion of truth only causes my glands to ache as I salivate, I hunger and I am the fiend. My blood is boiling in the vacuum, I am too impatient. I wish to kill or be killed on repeat a thousand times over, it is a song I never sicken of. Destroy my body, you will never stop my mind. The Cult Mass of Amarr are cowardice in viscous sludge of inaction, I laugh! I continue to laugh! My head aches and my breath is stolen, but still I laugh at your weakness, the pathetic results of your brevity in action and verbosity of claims. Fight us, take our freedom! Lock us in cages, destroy our hearts and wills! Struggle all you want, theismphile, the rules have changed and now we are the game pieces that you might only stare at and wish away.

Zverofaust	Posted - 2009.06.16 16:39:00 - [51] That's kind of the point, BSC. There are no tactics involved in having a mole in an enemy fleet and two neutral Guardians following your ass. Hell, any half-assed Amarr slob could run a fleet with those tools and we'd all have a good laugh if he ever lost a fight (which you have). SF don't "work" for the Minmatar militia. They're there of their own volition under no influence from us. Unless you can say the same of Amon Xeno and the two neutral Guardian pilots -- do they just happen to follow every fleet you personally command graciously repairing your compatriots under no influence from yourself? Somehow I doubt it, particularly when I see them fleet-warping along with Amarr militia ships. SF does their own thing. Good things, but all their own. They sometimes throw intel our way, and we do the same. They don't fleet with us, we don't fleet with them, combined ops are next to impossible. So why don't you just admit it -- you need those neutral reppers and scouts just to keep up with us. And don't talk about tactics again. Lead a fleet without your moles and neutrals, then maybe you'll learn about what tactics are. Until then, you're just a tool who has to pay extra ISK to employ neutral pilots just so you don't get curbstomped by the Minmatar every chance you get. Don't be angry that we don't have to do the same
Dohl Khrensen Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:05:00 - [52] Originally by: Eran Mintor You can be prideful when you liberate Lantorn. The truth, in my opinion. I don't know why the Amarr would bother keeping spies in our militia channel when we continue to feed them good intel in forum threads like these.
Kit Barbossa 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:09:00 - [53] Originally by: Jade Constantine You lie like the craven dog you are. The moment SF carriers rep the Tribal Liberation Front they are flagged as engageable targets and 24th Crusade are free to initiate aggression. We go so far as to carry rep-drones on most classes of warship simply to give this opportunity for 24th Crusaders to involve themselves if they think they are able. Usually the opportuntiy is not taken. Try saying that when your carriers are outside docking range of the station.
Aphoxakhan Jericho Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:15:00 - [54] Originally by: Kit Barbossa Try saying that when your carriers are outside docking range of the station. Not long ago it was the frustrations of The Lovely Anarchists, carriers and all, to try to usurp the structure of a flashing red vessel of fighter spitting nastiness. It was our misfortune that this egg shell toddler both had the sense to dock and the unsense to undock repeatedly.
Secretary Phase	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:32:00 - [55] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 16/06/2009 15:33:43 You lie like the craven dog you are. The moment SF carriers rep the Tribal Liberation Front they are flagged as engageable targets and 24th Crusade are free to initiate aggression. We go so far as to carry rep-drones on most classes of warship simply to give this opportunity for 24th Crusaders to involve themselves if they think they are able. Usually the opportuntiy is not taken. I wont go down to your level and start hurling insults. I am perfectly sure you are aware of the fact that there is no point for the 24th IC to engage your carriers at station undock mainly because they are mostly light combat fleets lacking the damage to substantially damage a carrier - especially if that is repaired by other carriers and ready to dock up. Moreover, I think you've risen an interesting point there - if the Amarr are constantly backed up by 2 neutral guardians as they claim, those would be flagged as soon as they start to rep and are free to shoot for the Minmatar militia - interestingly enough though, I haven't found any records of neutral guardians in either the Amarr or the Minmatar battlereports. The reason is rather simple: they don't exist. Quote: Actually we have heard an awful lot of complaints from the Amarrians about this. Pitiful whining indeed - especially when judged against the Providence capital blob that the 24th Crusade can and has called upon at times to bolster their fleet actions (representing what? 2000-3000? additional pilots worth of resources?) As denoted in their most recent statement, the CVA are no longer supporting the Amarr Militia due to finding some of the most successfull Amarr militia corps on their KOS list. So even if they did jump in to help them out, that would be quite undesirable for a quite substantial amount of the militia. Quote: Utter rot. I refuse to believe it is financially impossible for the cowardly 24th Crusade corporations to raise a collective 50m Isk per week to war-dec in support of their ideals when each of them is spending many times that figure in routine ship losses by the day and the financial rewards of complexing afford them an income far in advance of these costs. The money made is presumably needed to replace ships - probably not to wardec an alliance hugging Kamela station - but their reasons may be manyfold - and I doubt that most of the militia corporation which are actually comprised of less than 10 members would have the isk for it indeed. Quote: You "Secretary Phase" are a cringeworthy transparent cats-paw of the most gutless Amarrians in this conflict attempting to tell lies and spread deceit to occlude your failure in space. And yet you have to fall back to insults - how pitiful. And yes - considering "failure in space", I am just an observer, so it wouldn't be my failure. Considering the course of the conflict in general, may I point the interested reader of this debate to the unbiased official statistics provided by concord, as well as encourage them to find your very own alliances killboard for a definition of "failure in space". Best regards Secretary Phase
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:39:00 - [56] Originally by: Secretary Phase as well as encourage them to find your very own alliances killboard for a definition of "failure in space". Campaign details - Operation Castrato Start date:2008-11-30End date:Active Kills:819Losses:356 Looks good to me.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:55:00 - [57] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/06/2009 17:57:37 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Secretary Phase as well as encourage them to find your very own alliances killboard for a definition of "failure in space". Campaign details - Operation Castrato Start date:2008-11-30End date:Active Kills:819Losses:356 Looks good to me. Doesn't look so good when you compare it to the hundred and seventeen final blows that the Minmatar militia are averaging against Amarrian forces every day though does it?
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.16 18:27:00 - [58] Edited by: Merdaneth on 16/06/2009 18:27:44 Originally by: Jade Constantine Campaign details - Operation Castrato Start date:2008-11-30End date:Active Kills:819Losses:356 Looks good to me. Indeed. My personal statistics are roughly comparable to those of the entire SF alliance, and I'm satisfied too. Unless.... You think that my 180 odd losses are significantly less than your 356 for the about the same number of kills? Truly good work.
Aphoxakhan Jericho Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.16 18:30:00 - [59] Originally by: Rodj Blake Doesn't look so good when you compare it to the hundred and seventeen final blows that the Minmatar militia are averaging against Amarrian forces every day though does it? The Lovely Anarchist are small gnats that are efficient in their slaughter of composure. The Matari are an avalanche of ballistics. Per capita is my name, I am unwilling to compare the asteroids to the pebbles.
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.06.16 19:22:00 - [60] Edited by: Mutnin on 16/06/2009 19:22:58 Originally by: Secretary Phase Not only are SF actively helping with money, RR and intel, they also wardec few corps to actively engage them and disrupt their resupply routes in highsec, whereas wardeccing SF in return is financially not possible for most militia corps and entirely impossible for the main bulk of the 24th IC due to concord restrictions. Not being a part of the war nor intending to join it, I don't complain, but must say most of the lop-sided Minmatar opinions expressed in this thread deny me to have any respect for them. You Amarr fly around all day in shiny T2 frigs and other Costly ships but you mean to tell me you can't gather up a measly 50 mil or what ever it is a week to war dec them? At least SF, UK are in "real" Corps/Alliance that allow you to war dec them if you weren't too scared to do so. At least they don't hide in a noob corp that makes it impossible to War Dec like GDip's neutral alts and that Xano tard. As for you saying you don't complain.. lol then what are you doing in all this topic? Seems like a lot of complaining to me.



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