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Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 04:50:00 - [121] Originally by: Jonny Damordred Nem's already said no. Luckly though, he's not the only one with the button... What Nemesor says is clearly immaterial since he's obviously not being listened too in any respect whatsoever. Still, hopefully you get bold enough to press it. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Ronaldo Carrare	Posted - 2009.06.12 05:06:00 - [122] Why don't you press your button, Jade? What's your excuse? Why should they get bold and not you? After all...your say you are truly free. Show Eve how free you are. Also, you've been advertising yourself as being a well educated person, how come you've been misspelling his name all this time? Is it a way to try to insult him?
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 05:07:00 - [123] Originally by: Jade Constantine What Nemesor says is clearly immaterial since he's obviously not being listened too in any respect whatsoever. Unlike your own little alliance, Stimulus is not a corporation (nor is Rote Kapelle an alliance) that is ruled by fiat. Our CEOs and Executors are not dictators for life. They are facilitators of the revolution. It is a thankless job and it is not made any easier by the independent nature of our pilots. Nevertheless, I think I speak for all of us when I say that Nemesor is an imminently competent and efficient executive. You could learn a lot from him ... if you were actually willing or capable of learning.
Ral K'Daro	Posted - 2009.06.12 05:14:00 - [124] also, since jade is all abandoned by all these mean-spirited people overwhelmed and consumed with bitter anger over the glorious and triumphant deeds of the past, i submit to you jade's muse-song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCmqzrFL26M
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 05:16:00 - [125] Originally by: Devilish Ledoux Nevertheless, I think I speak for all of us when I say that Nemesor is an imminently competent and efficient executive. How imminent? Is it going to happen in this lifetime?
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 05:21:00 - [126] Edited by: Devilish Ledoux on 12/06/2009 05:22:51 Ah yes, if you can't debate them with facts (and you can't), attack their spelling and grammar. Good show. Truly, Star Fraction's golden age is far from over. _
ChipMo Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 05:28:00 - [127] Originally by: Ronaldo Carrare Why don't you press your button, Jade? What's your excuse? Why should they get bold and not you? After all...your say you are truly free. Show Eve how free you are. Also, you've been advertising yourself as being a well educated person, how come you've been misspelling his name all this time? Is it a way to try to insult him? We make no excuses, we are NRDS. Despite all this talk, snide remarks and slander, they have not attacked us in space and so are not red... I get the impression its just a matter of time now until they lash out though & when they do they die.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 05:28:00 - [128] Originally by: Devilish Ledoux Ah yes, if you can't debate them with facts (and you can't), attack their spelling and grammar. Good show. Truly, Star Fraction's golden age is far from over. Wait you were interested in "debate"? You've done nothing but bring poor-quality offtopic smacktalk to this thread for the last three pages and now you want a "debate?" Debate what? Your essentially gutless craven nature or your inability to form a cogent argument? Debate! You make me laugh. You aren't worthy of debate only scorn. Get away you pointless waste-of-skin.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 05:47:00 - [129] Edited by: Devilish Ledoux on 12/06/2009 05:48:03 Originally by: Jade Constantine I'm largely impervious to any kind of trolling and simply turn the energies of detractors to the useful service of promoting the message I want promoted. I'd like to take the opportunity to quote this again, to point out the utter absurdity of it, based on your recent responses. _
ChipMo Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 06:04:00 - [130] Edited by: ChipMo on 12/06/2009 06:04:28 Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I'd like to take the opportunity to quote this again, to point out the utter absurdity of it, based on your recent responses. Dragging Stimulus & Rote Kapelle's name through the dirt making yourself look like an utter imbecile to 'troll' the ever so irrelevant Jade Constantine? No, I don't think so. I think you are trying to shy away from your earlier boasts of superiority in some attempt to dig your way out of this hole you've put yourself in. Whatever, if you have the stones bring it. If not by all means carry on talking trash & and I'll continue to laugh in your face.

Nemesor Gallente Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 06:17:00 - [131] Edited by: Nemesor on 12/06/2009 06:21:10 You call me impotent. I say I am indifferent. I see no need to wardec someone that poses little to no threat to my organization. Feel free to push YOUR button if it helps you sleep. I find myself caring less and less as time goes by. Still, I suppose I owe you thanks for reminding me why I do not browse these forums anymore. I take my leave now. Nemesor Adarmard
Ronaldo Carrare	Posted - 2009.06.12 07:49:00 - [132] Originally by: ChipMo Edited by: ChipMo on 12/06/2009 06:04:28 Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I'd like to take the opportunity to quote this again, to point out the utter absurdity of it, based on your recent responses. Dragging Stimulus & Rote Kapelle's name through the dirt making yourself look like an utter imbecile to 'troll' the ever so irrelevant Jade Constantine? No, I don't think so. I think you are trying to shy away from your earlier boasts of superiority in some attempt to dig your way out of this hole you've put yourself in. Whatever, if you have the stones bring it. If not by all means carry on talking trash & and I'll continue to laugh in your face. Jade is still very relevant. Quite relevant if you ask me. So is SF. Would you like to conduct a poll to see how relevant you have become during the last...let's say last year? You're becoming more and more relevant by the day. Also, I like the excuse you use for not pressing the buttons. Being it the red one or the f1-f8. Jade, Chip...you could really teach them a lesson you know.
Tara Armitage Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 08:32:00 - [133] Well well. It is a bit sad to see really how some old friends seem to be pulling the wrong strings. You do realize, Dev and the posse, that the strings you should be pulling are Nemesor's? He has the by now quite famous button you have any business being interested in. It is quite clear and it has been for a while that some of you want a war. To that end the five? of you have been machinating for months now. What I don't understand - and feel free to enlighten me in private - is why all the bother, hot air, huffing puffing and relay trolling? You have a button, Nemesor has it, and him being an extremely capable individual I am certain that if your reasons are good enough he'll press it. Apparently your reasons among other things such as your manners fail. And therefore you are trying to get us to press ours. Now as far as any of this crap you are spewing, Dev, what is it to you? What business do you think it is of yours to come and tell us how to operate - just what sort of fantasies do you have about who you are? You are in a completely different organisation now, and you have been so for a good while. There is a deep and quite ****ing honestly very valuable history between those organisations and even more especially between individuals in those organisations. You and the handful of others and you chaps know who you are, are being childish selfish and generally asses. Did I say selfish? Stop it. There is simply no reason for us to interact on the political level at this time. Only reasons for this ongoing drama of fail that has been going on for months are personal - on your side. Snap out of it, chaps. Like - now.
Weirda Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 08:49:00 - [134] Much <3 to all of you! Weirda not understand most this though. __ weirda
Azure Skyclad Amarr Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 08:59:00 - [135] Originally by: Weirda Much <3 to all of you! Weirda not understand most this though. You and me both m'luv. http://ultravixen.co.uk/
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 10:08:00 - [136] And here we are. Two entities existing in the vastness of New Eden. Two organisations who rarely catch but a glimpse of the other. They went their way; we were ours. They believe they are right; we believe we are. Old egos, old arguments rear once again to clash with each other in the only place we can regularly see one another. Galnet. Oh how FTL communication is a two edged sword. That the organisations of Rote Kapelle and The Star Fraction disagree on a number of issues such ROE, target choice and tactics amongst others is of little surprise. It was for these reasons, amongst others, that Stimulus was created after all. That separation has bred a distance between us is again of no surprise even with the best of intentions the closeness of the individual members will diminish without proximity and interaction. Yet there is a bond. Behind the bile filled words. Behind the accusations and inflammatory words. Behind the egos there are the pilots. The membership of the Star Fraction look to Rote Kapelle and see old comrades and brothers in arms who may be operational under different guides now but still feel the same as they always did and are loved. Rote Kapelle pilots who look back on where they once were with fondness. That they are no longer with us is a sadness that will not diminish but we wish them well in what they have chosen. That we believe in one mode of operation and they believe in another is the irrelevance. We embrace our friends of old and all the bluster, talk and saber rattling diminishes not our bond. The pilots of the The Star Fraction stand firm in our beliefs, our ideals and our goals. We fight how we want to fight, how we best assess our need and how we best assess our potential success. The pilots of Rote Kapelle stand firm in their beliefs, their goals and their ideals. They fight how they want to fight, how they best assess their need and how they best assess their potential success. That these are different is inevitable. That these are hols up as examples of failure on the others part is laughable. We were one. Now we are two. Now we hold to the future promise in different ways. As always fly free pilots of Rote Kapelle. Fly how you chose. We shall. ---
Tainted OrPHeN Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 11:15:00 - [137] Originally by: Weirda Much <3 to all of you! Weirda not understand most this though. I'm with you.
Sykes Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 11:59:00 - [138] Originally by: Weirda Much <3 to all of you! Weirda not understand most this though. Quite so ... I'm very proud to have been part of Star Fraction just as I'm very proud to be part of Queens and Rote Kapelle now. Good hunting comrades ...
Te Kahu Freecaptains' Union Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 13:17:00 - [139] Originally by: Heartstone As always fly free pilots of Rote Kapelle. Fly how you chose. We shall. Perhaps, some time, you'll tell me the stories of what it's like to fly as you do. I've heard from those who've chosen to leave the Fraction, but little from those who choose to stay. If we met to talk, I might begin by proposing that we both have clarity of purpose. We focus on the clarity: on directness of action and choosing not to limit ourselves as we explore what we can become. You focus on the purpose, accepting limits on your freedoms as you strive to make your actions part of a greater story. We both, in our different ways, seek to be free. We both desire to fly in the company of those we respect and value. We can both put out an awful lot of verbage...
Tatsue Nuko Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 14:09:00 - [140] Originally by: Tara Armitage You do realize, Dev and the posse, that the strings you should be pulling are Nemesor's? I pull his string every time I get the chance. Just not the war declaration string. There are far more interesting parts to pull at. Originally by: Tara Armitage Apparently your reasons among other things such as your manners fail. This is a common occurance when people decide an other party is not worthy of respect. Your alliance has certain amounts of experience with this phenomenon. Originally by: Heartstone [Several paragraphs of worthy text] I do not have anything to correct, add or critique in your post, rather I want to express my general agreement with it. Other posts directed at, or referencing, or quoting, myself I shall let rest for now, since there are better things to do and from what I saw not all that much worth responding to. There are a few things that do need some brief comments, but this will have to wait until a time when there are less important things to do. Oh, but the person that tried to score points through flattering my intelligence in order to use me as a rhethorical weapon against the good freecaptain Ledoux: do not presume to understand or overrule my judgements - especially judgements of people that I know a lot more intimately than you do. But if you are actually interested in the philosophy I have abbreviated in this thread, a more personable circumstance could probably be arranged for a discussion. After all, the one prevailing value of social interaction that cannot in any way be replaced by our current technologies is that of testing your ideas against those of fellow thinkers in order to expose flaws in one's thinking.

Kimochi Rendar Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.06.12 14:40:00 - [141] Originally by: Aphoxakhan Oh, dear, I am getting dizzy. This chatter hums by too viscous to can catch in my thin hands. Slow down, darling egg shell toddlers, let me play along. The argument is polarity of cascading thought. You can never understand each other because the matter would be destroyed in the moment it collided. Instead of going against, it is time to turn together at a right angle, then swim together to make a helix of marvellous power. Open the parachute and land gently, lovely captains. Kimochi tilts her head to one side slightly. What a delightfully bizarre creature you are... What I wouldn't give to see the world through your eyes, it must be quite spectacular. Director of Diplomacy \| IC Blog
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 14:45:00 - [142] For the avoidance of doubt, I certainly did mean to say that Tatsue made an error when she described us as 'jailed to the concept of being in servitude to the greater cause of humanity as a collective' and, further, went on to say of us: 'through your ideology you are still considering yourselves subservient to a greater good that diminishes and insults your own potential.' I still consider that an error in her analysis of our ideology and actions. So much for that though, for I see no great benefit in discussing that and other philosophical matters in the context of the most recent contributions to this discussion. To continue in this vein would have even less merit than refuting true enemies after ten different variations of the same argument have been gone through. After all, with respect to former comrades of mine, the truth is that there is no principled enmity here that makes any sense. Ultimately, I have better things to do and I actually think virtually all involved do too. No doubt I will return to the principles of anarchism at other times. As far as this thread goes, I am done. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 15:34:00 - [143] Originally by: Nemesor You call me impotent. I say I am indifferent. And thats the anarchist tragedy of Stimulus really Nemesor. Indifference is a disease that leads to alienation, isolation and the dangerous delusions of elitist fancy and eccentric irrelevance. Devilish Ledaux may be a raving lunatic but at least he's a passionate raving lunatic. He cares about something regardless of how wrong he is on every level of his argument and ill-mannered ranting. In many ways he has served as a kind of reverse prophetic voice of contrary revelation on this thread, with almost everything he's said meaning the opposite. By rounding on the use of cheap and effective tech1 ships he demonstrates how little he ever learned of the Star Fraction message of revolution - that new technology can be used by the underdog to replicate weapons of resistance to take back their freedom from the dominant tyrannies of the universe. By condemning the NRDS policy as a flawed principle in favour of solipsist NBSI self-worship you isolate yourselves from the revolution you claim to continue. A revolution without public appeal is a revolution that will die out as flames without oxygen. Each neutral pilot you murder is another potential loss for the cause. You rage against 0.0 spaceholders while committing yourselves to wanton random violence and gate-camping tyranny as regressive as anything your enemies can conceive. You have become the monsters you fight. By reviling the Star Fraction campaign against capsuleer militias in favour of meaningless jousts against nullsec warlords he prefers he loses sight of the struggle overwhelmed by the bloodshed of the moment. One delusion SF has never practised is the fiction of the "roadtrip" where one band of interstellar warlords will rattle their sabres in the faces of another for a few weeks then move on having accomplished nothing but ship kills and loses and no lasting change. Yet when called to account for his own achievements the K/D ratio is all - even when said ratio is tempered and tampered and adjusted weekly to avoid negative traits. I will tell you now K/D ratio is meaningless. The revolutionary fight that true anarchist movements need to engage with is the memetic taint spreading from the core empires to the frontier and smashing your hulls against entrenched powers achieves nothing but staving aside the ennui of your foes while young minds are twisted by imperialism and turned into territorial drones behind your back in the engines of factional warfare. You may find my words spoken here to be equally harsh Nemesor. But I rail against indifference as the doom of passion and defeat of revolutionary stimulus. You have settled into a banal and mundane routine without story and fame, without grandeur and dramatic excess. You have allowed the elitist pilots in your order to convince you with their mediocre rhetotic that elitism is the same as accomplishment and merely saying a thing makes it so. I have to tell you it does not. Now though with the intervention of more moderate and reasonable voices its become apparent that Devilish doesn't speak for many at all. Jonny, Tatsue perhaps. Bacchanalian drummed into the cause as an unwilling participant to strengthen the rhetoric. But thats it. Fair enough then. His list of names was mere theatrical device disconnected entirely from reality. And that is a good thing. I will allow myself to believe that Rote Kapelle has the capacity to change and evolve and for the memory of the comrades I have in that organization who still honour the shared history we have I'll hope for the best and dare to dream that these estranged anarchists can one day resdiscover the cause and bright revolutionary fervour. *** For now we'll return to discussion of the op and in the absence of any clear suggestion of incoming hostility from Rote Kapelle resolve to ignore Devilish and coterie henceforth as irrelevant to diplomatic implication.
Weirda Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 16:10:00 - [144] Edited by: Weirda on 12/06/2009 16:11:06 Weirda believe that Nemesor mean he indifferent to personal attack made against him. This make Weirda proud as that is own philosophy too. He larger then "Himself" (something that we should all aspire to be). That said - Weirda also believe that you know little of our current campaign and therefore have little room to talk. While on other hand, SF Campaign (by their nature) are very public. There are certainly many level of "work" going on (with regard to Assymetric Warfare) that do not (and will not by their nature) reflect itself in K/D ratio or any other "externally visible" mean. However this thing are measure internally and there little doubt (as evidence by their increasing frustration) that being measure by enemy as well. "You say you want a revolution Well you know We'd all want to change the world You tell me that it's evolution Well you know We'd all want to change the world" (Weirda aware of next line - and purposely omit) To look back to ancient earth history, one might say that what we do is simply different perspective on ideology that you profess (think our MalcolmX to you Martin Luther King). This comparison is not to place either of our ideology into those camp, but to reflect that similar goal can have different approach. You, of anyone, should be well aware of this. Perhaps we just enjoy killing those that we know are already guilty. Weirda happy to cast stone in knowing that target have bag of his own stone (though many seem to lack certain stones altogether)... You own Sabre-Rattle as well as personal attack on those not involve in this discussion and implication of such judgment toward other member of Rote Kapelle sadden Weirda greatly.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.12 16:27:00 - [145] Originally by: Weirda To look back to ancient earth history, one might say that what we do is simply different perspective on ideology that you profess (think our MalcolmX to you Martin Luther King). This comparison is not to place either of our ideology into those camp, but to reflect that similar goal can have different approach. You, of anyone, should be well aware of this. If you were doing the public relations for Rote Kapelle I don't think this argument would have happened in the first wierda. But now it has and tempers have been vented and much truth has been spoken. As I said in my previous post I will allow myself to hope that Rote Kapelle can evolve into something I can take pride in seeing ex-comrades involved with again. Regardless of other sentiments I wish you well on a personal level Wierda. Fly safe. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Tatsue Nuko Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 17:29:00 - [146] Originally by: Jade Constantine By condemning the NRDS policy as a flawed principle in favour of solipsist NBSI self-worship you isolate yourselves from the revolution you claim to continue. A revolution without public appeal is a revolution that will die out as flames without oxygen. This here is at the heart of the matter insofar as philosophy and ideology goes. You consider that you need the masses to grant oxygen to the flames of the revolution. We realize that we ourselves are the oxygen for those flames. This is exactly what I mean when I say that you are jailing yourselves into dependance and servitude to those who are not your peers. Those who deem that they need the support of the masses will find themselves forced to appeal to the masses and thereby dilute themselves. This is the tragedy. You need the masses, therefore you have to appeal to them, therefore you have to make concessions to them, therefore you neuter yourself, your capability, and your entire cause. We realize that we do not need the masses. The whole point of what is happening is the fact that we need only ourselves - that is what sets us apart from the entirety of human history, and that is the fundamental beauty offered - a society where no interaction is borne on necessity but only on mutual benefit, camaraderie, and all association is entirely voluntary, devoid of social and economic pressures. --- I do have some points of disagreement with Cosmo, but out of respect for his great contributions to transhuman theory and his desire to not continue this jigsaw here, I shall refrain. Doctor, if a more suitable thread appears, I would love to take you to task in this to see where I may have to refine my position.
Bad Harlequin Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.12 18:53:00 - [147] Originally by: Aphoxakhan The argument is polarity of cascading thought. You can never understand each other because the matter would be destroyed in the moment it collided. Instead of going against, it is time to turn together at a right angle, then swim together to make a helix of marvelous power. I understood this. It made sense to me. I believe it to be correct. Should I be worried?
Weirda Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.06.12 21:46:00 - [148] Originally by: Bad Harlequin Originally by: Aphoxakhan The argument is polarity of cascading thought. You can never understand each other because the matter would be destroyed in the moment it collided. Instead of going against, it is time to turn together at a right angle, then swim together to make a helix of marvelous power. I understood this. It made sense to me. I believe it to be correct. Should I be worried? guilty __ weirda http://pewpew.me (Home of Manlove)
Khanid Voltar Zarathustra's Dionysian Modernists	Posted - 2009.06.13 10:14:00 - [149] Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 13/06/2009 10:16:45 Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 13/06/2009 10:14:43 Originally by: Devilish Ledoux Originally by: Jade Constantine Quote: Still these little dramas usually don't end until one or other organization is destroyed. One day you'll find the courage to try it. And the mad matriarch chews over old glories in her crumbling manse, hissing over the percieved threat of her long-lost son. "One day, he will come to supplant me!" she shrieks. "He'll come to take away everything, but I shall be ready!" as she continues to poison the family, doing more damage than the prodigal son ever could ... never realizing that the prodigal son has moved on and has no desire for lordship over such a ragged and diseased house. This sums up Jade to a T. Respect to the rest of the Fraction, but this days when I think of Jade I think of a gibbering madwoman, growling and gnashing her teeth in the darkness saying we ARE still relevant... It is quite shocking how many of your supposed ex-comrades end up in the ideological scrapheap. I think the reason that so many people who leave your corp feel so disappointed when they leave it, is that it truly is a GREAT idea (the corp ideology I mean) completely screwed up by their insane CEO. Well said to most of the Stim members, and good to see so many old faces in this thread. Kuna PS. Before you start Jade yes I am a bit emo. Please refrain from using your usual ad hominems to dispute mine and everyone else points, it really does show your limitations in verbal debate.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.06.13 14:39:00 - [150] What's interesting to note in the condemnations of former revolutionaries like yourself Khanid Voltar (or rather Captain Kuna, if you believe yourself able to speak on his behalf) is the degree to which the ad hominem term is used so flexibility to pre-emptively rebuff criticism of the individuals actions while never applying to condemnation and florid assaults against the name Jade Constantine. It's almost as if in the minds that conceive these arguments Jade Constantine is no longer a person that can be attacked in the terms of the ad hominem argument. Rather she is the argument, the metaphysical ground-zero, the target zone. On one level its curiously dehumanizing to be treated more like a philosophical ideal than a person but I imagine it bespeaks more than anything the frustration on the part of those grappling for a way to attack the figure of a woman who has remained consistent in ideology and focus for a very long time. Typically one could assault any long-standing idealist leader with the charge of hypocrisy, or moral cowardice, or lassitude or backsliding or any one of a dozen human failings and hope to find purchase in the factual representation of such indicators. But here in this thread we have nothing of that. Merely accusations on the ad hominem level of "madness" "gnashing of teeth" "growling" and whatever febrile adjectives can be conjured without recourse to solid argument. All ending of course in the accusation of ad hominem after a post full of ad hominem. Truly this is why I have very little respect for the term. I believe it is used most commonly by those incapable of engaging in honest debate desiring mainly to hurl in an invective grenade and escape into the forum night without return fire. "Ad hominem" like the charge"hypocrisy!" have been devalued in the coinage of debate on these forums. Still, that point aside, lets address the reason why many ex-revolutionaries feel disappointed or as you say "on the ideological scrapheap". You allege it's because I am a "gibbering madwoman" "insane" "gnashing my teeth" so we'll take that as the argument. I would counter that it's because they are unhappy with their failure to make a mark in the Fraction and in their return to mundane corporations and typical organizational hierarchies elsewhere they are often beset by frustration, sense of ennui and general unease at the status quo. Now you may dismiss this as an ad hominem attack of course - but in Kuna's case let's examine the reality of his departure from the Fraction: In Star Fraction Kuna had a voice. He was a Free Captain. He had a forum for his opinions and beliefs. He was listened too. He was trusted to take part in fleets. We even encouraged him to lead them on occasion. He took part in strategy meetings - he had a vote on critical campaign discussions. He was part of an organization fighting ideological wars against regressive foes and his role and identity was important. He was valued as an individual. Sure sometimes he was a lone voice - sometimes votes went against him. Sometimes he was disagreed with. Sometimes he was frustrated and angered, sometimes he was argued against passionately. But through it all he was seen as that sovereign individual Free Captain we speak of. And that's the ultimate draw of the Fraction for many. That's the GREAT IDEA you speak of that you consider the "insane CEO" has destroyed. In any other organization in known space Kuna would have been fired and ejected as a troublemaker and contrary voice almost immediately. Or he would have been ordered to shut up and be silent and knuckle down, certainly wouldn't have been trusted with fleet command. In your heart you know this to be true. So this was why Kuna loved the Star Fraction. But it was also why he came to hate the Star Fraction. Because the kicker is that while he had the voice and respect and individual sovereignty I speak of, so does everyone else. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD



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