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Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.10 17:33:00 - [1] Who's surprised. It was just a matter of time.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.10 17:54:00 - [2] Originally by: Tildes own edit; ahahahah http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1094431 It's clever to post on public EVE forums that someone else has access to your account, C/D?
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.10 23:16:00 - [3] Originally by: PieceOfMind Edited by: PieceOfMind on 10/06/2009 21:40:40 i hate market discussion and the elitist internet nerdisms that they ** everywhere, trying to make themselves feel better about their small **s idiots. Replace MD with CAOD, C&P or S&M, or whatever tbh.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.11 00:49:00 - [4] Would have to hit upwards 20k for me to consider it. Am sitting confortably with money on the bank that I never use tho, but I'd value the 4 years and gotten so far from EVE - and hopefully another 4 year - higher than 11k. ..and reading the discussions in MD, seems he were more likely hitting around 2,5-4,5k. RMT < GTC. Then you gotta find a buyer for all that isk for a fairly fast transaction as well. Also, reading the comments in MD it seems Ricdic had a combination of reasons to sell out, not only money, there's hints about him being unhappy with certain things within EBank as well. ..but yah, the point still stands. I see why someone would consider it, for the money alone. It is just a game, and in that sense, it has a value. Out of curiosity, I wonder how far CCP can pull this legally. You are violating the EULA. Guessing there's ways to do the transaction of cash so it doesn't relate to EVE, laundry kek, but there's always the option of local IRS, and perhaps CCP got means to forward things legally. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.11 00:57:00 - [5] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Afaik, eula only allows them to ban you. They can't do anything to you legally. Intellectual property and all that jiff, essentially you're selling something you don't own, which is a theft. I guess the effect of that/how it plays out, differs from country to country tho. Originally by: Lana Torrin Well I would consider it this way.. $11K is quite a bit of cash.. I have about a dozen unrelated email addresses and a dynamic IP.. Take a 6 month break.. If I'm not over my addiction come back using a non banned email, use some of the cash to buy time cards and buy a mid level toon (ie, 20-30M SP).. Keep quiet.. Best of both worlds really.. You get RL cash.. Get a break to try and get yourself off the habit and if you cant, you get to start a new life. ..was thinking that as well. Sell 200bil, keep the other 275b, either case you win/win. More money than you need ingame to start over, plus win outside of it. I guess CCP loves this thread now.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.11 01:06:00 - [6] Originally by: Lana Torrin You would have to NEVER tell anyone who you were and what you did for the rest of your eve gaming life however.. If even only 1 person found out there is a chance that CCP will find out and you'll get banned again with the loss of the rest of the isk. Most people cant stay quiet for that long, they would eventually tell SOMEONE.. It wouldn't be the first time someone banned comes back. Some of the higher profile ones, involved in dev and isd related scandals are still playing. Or so I hear.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.11 01:16:00 - [7] Originally by: Lana Torrin Actually banning someone from any online game and making it stick is next to impossibly. The only reliable way CCP has to identify players is the email address and credit card details. If you don't use a credit card to pay your subscription and you sign up with a different email account..... I would actually love for there to be a way to REALLY ban people permanently. That would kill all the isk sellers once and for all, which would mean the price of GTCs should drop (as more people will be selling them for ISK) and it would then get easier for me to pay for all my accounts... ..or get access to their hardware, but that won't happen. Yah. I can't think of any (decently sized) MMO that doesn't have a flood of isk farmer/sellers. Obviously it's a profitable business, and way too hard to get rid of them. I miss last summer, less than a year ago I bought 90d GTC for under 300mil. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.11 19:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Jogvan Originally by: Fumen Seems like I recall a case in Denmark or Netherlands or some such about a couple guys getting prosecuted over a scam in WoW a year or so ago. I don't recall the details, but it was something to do over an in-game transaction and fraud. (I want to say some sort of monetary transaction was involved and not just an in-game scam. You know, it'd suck that you got scammed and then banned for attempting any sort of RMT.) I think that one was because the victim was being harassed/threatened IRL by some guys until he sent them WoW gold or whatever they wanted. No. It was danish, yah, but roughly this - He bought isk (so it was in EVE), from e-bay if I recall right but that part can be wrong. He then paid for it with paypal, i.e. using his CC. The guy he bought it from didn't send him the isk, so he wanted his CC company (VISA?) to revert the deal, since he didn't get what he bought. Well, since he bought intellectual property that neither of the involved parties owned, he simply didn't have a case. He broke a contract he signed (EULA), and he bought something that don't exist, that he has no right to either. Can't recall exact details but that should be pretty accurate. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.12 22:21:00 - [9] Edited by: Misanth on 12/06/2009 22:22:43 Originally by: Landrassa The case in the Netherlands involved a couple of guys threatening someone in rl in order for him to transfer some shiny in Runescape. And obviously the only reason the authorities became involved was because of the rl part. Funnily enough they actually prosecuted for theft, which might be debatable. If I had a 15 year old son and he had to show up in court because he was involved in extorting a 13 year old for an item in an MMORPG...he'd be in for such a world of hurt. That's a different case. I've heard of a few different ones but the danish is the one that had most media exposure (to my knowledge). It involved a fairly decent sum of money, a big credit card company (VISA if I recall right) as well as PayPal. Kids threatening other kids for different things ingame happens all the time. Soon ten years ago I was GM of another game, where a guy stole items from his RL brother. The irony is, since account sharing is prohibited as per EULA (in that game, EVE, and well most I know of), we had to ban them both. I'm not sure I want to know what went on in that household later. Some people just go to excessive lengths regarding ingame items.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.06.12 22:25:00 - [10] Originally by: Tildes own All of the EBANK damage control is pretty awesome lol At least their comedy value is pretty high. I wonder if that's part of their 'assets portfolio'.

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