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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.10 21:46:00 -
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Currently as it is you can lock your blueprints so you can put them up for everyone to use them without having the fear that they will be stolen (a great system imho).
Now to lock and unlock these en mass is a pain in the back and should have been fixed long ago. What you need to do is cast a vote per blueprint wait a few seconds or so before it can be completed by the CEO and then finally you have one blueprint unlocked. This is neither time efficient or useful in whatever reason, unless your corp is really dependant on shareholders and want to keep the have an influence on the votes to unlock/lock bpo's.
My suggestion to fix this horrible horrible system:
Make a settings bar at the vote office for blueprints. You can keep them on or turn them off completely (this should be a vote btw) if you keep them on the system stays as is. If you choose to put them off then CEO or anyone with the designated role of Technical Security Officer (new role) should be able to unlock lock the blueprints easily and en mass.
So what it comes down to:
- Get rid of a pain in the back system
- Keep the option to have your shareholders still have influence on bpo's
- Have the CEO be able to unlock/lock bpo's en masse if you decide to move your corp office
TL;DR - Change the vote system for unlock/locking bpo's |
Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.06.10 22:23:00 -
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CEO/Director locking/unlocking BPO's sounds good to me... can even make it role based.
This system should be stripped from the shareholders period.
They should not have any direct control over this area. |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.06.11 00:05:00 -
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The shareholders need to retain control over locking, for use in businesses built around such things(e.g., Titan BPC investments), where the CEO cannot be trusted with the corp assets. I would, however, favour a shareholder vote to set the corporation to "role lock" or "vote lock" - role lock being the proposed system, vote lock being the status quo. Don't really care which is the default, but you have to allow the BPO investors to maintain security even against the CEO if the corp is set up appropriately.
With that caveat noted, I support this. |
Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.11 14:01:00 -
[4]
Bumping and supporting.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.06.11 14:32:00 -
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I think no-one is very happy with the current procedure. The idea of locking and sharing blueprints is good, but the devil popped up in the details, which led to this pain in the back as you describe it.
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Molock Saronen
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Posted - 2009.06.11 14:35:00 -
[6]
/Supported. Very much so! |
Klyria
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:37:00 -
[7]
Supported.
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Aminam Proweco
Smegnet Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:06:00 -
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.13 11:12:00 -
[9]
Bump |
Hettana
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Posted - 2009.06.13 13:27:00 -
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Ahh saw this after I posted my own more basic proposal.
+1
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.14 12:30:00 -
[11]
Edited by: Verys on 14/06/2009 12:29:51
Bump
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.15 08:04:00 -
[12]
This might be a small issue as not too many people actually experience this dreadful mechanic but this issue should be fixed and as soon as possible.
It's outdated, utterly mind-numbing, annoying and overall bad design.
This needed a change years ago.
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Slave 2739FKZ
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Posted - 2009.06.15 19:01:00 -
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.06.16 01:29:00 -
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I'm in the process of senting 1000-1500 evemails to each shareholder unlocking and relocking bpos.
These shareholders don't even have enough shares to sway the vote, yet they're being flooded.
What's more I have to do this 1 bpo, 1 click at a time.
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.17 09:08:00 -
[15]
bump
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Micia
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.17 09:17:00 -
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Don't like the idea of the new Technical Security role suggested (a lot of responsibilty assigned to one person), nor of cutting shareholders out of the process (shareholders like to know what's going on).
Being able to do it en masse is very good idea, though, and has been brought up many times in the past.
Giving support; not for all the ideas, but definitely worth having something done. The 1 by 1 is a real pita, and a change for the way it's done is well overdue.
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Should we fall before the dawn,
Say this at our pyre,
"They died Matari warriors,
Their faces to the fire." |
Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.06.17 14:05:00 -
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Seems it's bugged as well.
Got through about 200 bpos and now it's telling they're all pending votes when there are no votes open.
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.18 10:11:00 -
[18]
 Originally by: Micia
Edited by: Micia on 17/06/2009 09:18:08
Don't like the idea of the new Technical Security role suggested (a lot of responsibilty assigned to one person), nor of cutting shareholders out of the process (shareholders like to know what's going on).
There is always the thing called trust and I believe the Technical Security role should only be able to be distributed by the CEO.
Cutting out the shareholders might be a big deal for one corp but not for another, therefore it should be optional. This keeps the ability for industrial corps with investors to let shareholders have their say and give the abilites to other non-shareholder corps to get rid of this system and easily unlock/lock everything. |
Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.06.19 01:01:00 -
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Click Count:
Locking:
Click 1. Right Click
Click 2. Propose Vote
Click 3. Ok
+ Open Votes
Click 1. Expand
Click 2. Positive Vote
Unlocking:
Click 1. Right Click
Click 2. Propose Vote
Click 3. Ok
+ Open Votes
Click 1. Expand
Click 2. Positive Vote
+ Open Santionable Actions
Click 1. Expand
Click 2. Apply
Cleanup
Delete evemails, relog several times to fix "already a vote in progress" bug. Etc.
Totals for 500 bpos:
500 * (5 + 7) = 6000 clicks + navigation to the screens.
I have RSI..... Will I be compensated?
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.06.19 01:05:00 -
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+ 500 * 2 * shareholders evemails to clog up servers.
This means you can only do 100 per day or risk locking up your shareholders mailboxes.
In our case it's 9000 evemails, we don't have many shareholders.
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Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.06.19 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
CEO/Director locking/unlocking BPO's sounds good to me... can even make it role based.
This system should be stripped from the shareholders period.
They should not have any direct control over this area.
A roles system is the correct way to run a corporation, after the shareholders have voted on it of course.
What would normally happen with extremely delicate materials is the executors vote on the role being assigned, rather than the role being performed.
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.20 18:46:00 -
[22]
Bump |
Martin Vaun
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Posted - 2009.06.22 03:10:00 -
[23]
+1
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Uzume Ame
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Posted - 2009.06.22 12:36:00 -
[24]
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.06.22 13:42:00 -
[25]
yes
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 18:41:00 -
[26]
bump |
Karina Redstar
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Posted - 2009.06.24 07:49:00 -
[27]
Signed |
Betonela
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Posted - 2009.06.24 07:50:00 -
[28]
Supported |
Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.26 22:09:00 -
[29]
bump |
Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.07.04 04:37:00 -
[30]
bump
Come on surely someone in the CSM is a CEO and understands this issue.
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