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Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:30:00 -
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Nosferatu.
Totaly useless. |

baltec1
Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Marshal Nosferatu.
Totaly useless.
I use one on my retribution... |

Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Marshal Nosferatu.
Totaly useless.
Not nearly as useful as neuts, but they can come in handy if you're not in a cap stable fit and your enemy is.  |

Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:50:00 -
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hundreds of unused ships? Surely OP is bad at math? |

CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Haks'he Lirky hundreds of unused ships? Surely OP is bad at math?
Well not really lets look at it this way..There are always flavour of months ships and mods that people constantly fly and fit (becuase they are the best at what they do) until CCP nerfs them, then nobody uses them
Take for instance...Vagabond, with polycarbs everyone flew these becuase they were very fast, excellent for gang and solo pvp, at one point the ultimate ship.. Speed nerf comes in Polycarbs pretty much now unused. Falcons, excellent for jamming, long range everyone had them in a gang, nerf comes along, no one really uses them now, well not as much Nosferatu/Pilgrims setup again everyone used this setup until the nerf, ppl stop using pilgrims And so on and so on..My point was once CCP nerfs something it ceases to be used throughout the years, so they become almost obsolete cos people use the next new thing.. There are sooo many mods for each same purpose its untrue, surely there must be 30-40% of mods that very rarely get used. Remember everyone goes by the 'recommended' ship fitting. so you would only be using a certain amount of recommened mods..others wouldnt get used.
I just dont think you need 8 different variations of standard type mods (not t2, faction, officer) to do the same thing, I know there is power/cpu differences, different ships etc, but people just dont use them, purely down to people going with what every one else does, and the ships/mods to use for that moment, until som ething else comes along.
And im sure there are plenty of ships that dont really get used..
I know you cant just remove them from game, but it would clean up the market and the clutter lol |

baltec1
Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:40:00 -
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So far, I am the only guy in my allience who flys a sentinel. In fact, I dont think I have seen anyone else in one. So would that mean you would remove one of my favorate ships? |

Aisley Tyrion
The Penumbra Initiative Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Iria Ahrens well, capacitor batteries are a good example. I think a long time ago that you could only use 2 cap rechargers before it became more advantageous to stick on a cap battery. But now, a third or fourth cap recharger is still a better option than a cap battery for improving recharge rate.
Capacitor batteries are very useful in some Curse (and sometimes on Pilgrim) fits. |

CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
So far, I am the only guy in my allience who flys a sentinel. In fact, I dont think I have seen anyone else in one. So would that mean you would remove one of my favorate ships?
if your the only person in using it then yes..when have a ship just for one person..
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: CommmanderInChief
Originally by: baltec1
So far, I am the only guy in my allience who flys a sentinel. In fact, I dont think I have seen anyone else in one. So would that mean you would remove one of my favorate ships?
if your the only person in using it then yes..when have a ship just for one person..
Why?
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:47:00 -
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Skiff, Procurer, Hawk are all lametasticksuckiness off the top of my head.
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Derus Grobb
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:21:00 -
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Dear CCP,
Everyone uses the same ships and modules. So please remove all other ships and modules. This will rectify the situation somehow.
Please remove this extra content.
Signed,
CommmanderInChief ---
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Tommy Zhang
Zhang Tactical Reclaimation
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:22:00 -
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To be honest I would rather CCP spent their time eliminating the Isk sellers, revamping 0.0 and low sec and fixing various other problems then waste time working out what mods nobody uses and which ships are obsolete.
The Eve environment is made richer by the multitude of often useless modules you can put on your ship. Personally I would rather see 4 more of everything then anything taken away.
If you start taking away modules and ships, you take away the personal choice and experimentation factor that some people enjoy.
Whats next? Only a minority of players actually play in 0.0 space and lo-sec so we'll remove that as its obsolete.
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Thenoran
Caldari Tranquility Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:28:00 -
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I just wish they'd get the main underpowered ships fixed: Ashimmu, Gila, Deimos, Destroyers. Oh and fix tracking while you're at it.
The only ships I really see used by 'everyone' are haulers and maybe disposable T1 Frigates/Cruisers for PvP. ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.13 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Frug Edited by: Frug on 12/06/2009 13:52:08
what modules? Are you really asking this? I look forward to your micro shield extended, micro smartbombing, small energy transferring frigate setup.
Micro shield extender could be used for boosting ur HP when nothing else fits into frigate... Micro smartbomb, my friend have that one on his covert ops, before Apocrypha he used it to destroy probes if he find them on some stationary objects, but still it could be used on Covert Ops, to put aggro on certain ship, so that ship could not safely logoff. (In certain fittnings especially with Probe Launchere there could be no room for small smartbomb) I used Small Energy tranfer on my Dominix. There is always plenty of highslots on drone ships, and there was not enough capacitor for at least another one medium energy transfer and that tiny benefit from small energy tranfer helped me keep my Raven stable in a certain fitiing of Raven and support Dominix.
Such situations are rare but they do happen... |

Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.13 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo Skiff, Procurer, Hawk are all lametasticksuckiness off the top of my head.
Skiff is needed to mine Mercoxit (with its bonuses it does mine Mercoxit 30% better then Hulk), And there are people who mine Mercoxit actually... Procurer is a good newbie barge, though Retriever is preferable, plus it's needed to build Skiff...
I don't know much about Hawk but i saw mates flying in it... But all assault ships need some boost... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |

Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.13 00:21:00 -
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i have a spare rupture i don't use much cause i forgot it in outer ring. i can contribute that to this thread --
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.13 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: CommmanderInChief
I just dont think you need 8 different variations of standard type mods (not t2, faction, officer) to do the same thing, I know there is power/cpu differences, different ships etc, but people just dont use them, purely down to people going with what every one else does, and the ships/mods to use for that moment, until som ething else comes along.
Sometimes ur short of money... But yes there is many modules that are just reproccessed into minerals (that is why traders buy them) But price difference do make difference sometimes, because u may not be able to buy the best module.
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And im sure there are plenty of ships that dont really get used..
I don't know such ships... Every ship is used by somebody... U just need imagination to create a fit... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |

Pater Peccavi
Minmatar Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2009.06.13 02:10:00 -
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Honestly, I've found the bald comments in this thread more interesting than the rest, but considering that I am also one of the hair deprived, I'm not sure that counts for much.
Originally by: Trimutius III I don't know such ships... Every ship is used by somebody... U just need imagination to create a fit...
Please give me a burst fit. I've been dying to be able to name one "Pardon me while I" (so it could be put next to "Hungry Like The" and "Don't Fear the"), but I just can't find any other reason to fly one.
Originally by: hi go Let the human be very annoyed! Another person is very repugnant!
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Lyn Kishin
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Posted - 2009.06.13 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pater Peccavi Honestly, I've found the bald comments in this thread more interesting than the rest, but considering that I am also one of the hair deprived, I'm not sure that counts for much.
Originally by: Trimutius III I don't know such ships... Every ship is used by somebody... U just need imagination to create a fit...
Please give me a burst fit. I've been dying to be able to name one "Pardon me while I" (so it could be put next to "Hungry Like The" and "Don't Fear the"), but I just can't find any other reason to fly one.
2 miner II's and a mining upgrade mod, lethal to veldspar untill you can fly something better.
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.06.13 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Pater Peccavi
Originally by: Trimutius III I don't know such ships... Every ship is used by somebody... U just need imagination to create a fit...
Please give me a burst fit. I've been dying to be able to name one "Pardon me while I" (so it could be put next to "Hungry Like The" and "Don't Fear the"), but I just can't find any other reason to fly one.
[Burst, Playing Around] Expanded Cargohold II
Micro Shield Extender I [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Miner II Miner II
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Can't fit any MLU, but the yield from those lasers will probably fill the cargo hold each cycle so you don't want both lasers ending their cycle at the same time. Extender's optional since there's no way to fit any tank with 15 spare CPU that I can see.
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Mike Seary
Minmatar Minmatar Industrial Limited
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Posted - 2009.06.13 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tenely Bellicose...
I win thread. What is my prize?
seriously, you just won a metric ****-ton of internets. What is the damned "de facto" purpose of that stupid boat again? |

Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.13 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Pater Peccavi Honestly, I've found the bald comments in this thread more interesting than the rest, but considering that I am also one of the hair deprived, I'm not sure that counts for much.
Originally by: Trimutius III I don't know such ships... Every ship is used by somebody... U just need imagination to create a fit...
Please give me a burst fit. I've been dying to be able to name one "Pardon me while I" (so it could be put next to "Hungry Like The" and "Don't Fear the"), but I just can't find any other reason to fly one.
Tormentor, Bantam, Navitas and Burst are mining frigates for newbies, so they only could be used for mining (noob mining) or maybe cyno, and nothing else... Never forget about noobs, is it surprise to u that they do exist? ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |

Lexa Hellfury
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.06.13 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Considering Mitnals disappearing act and very little info pertaining to it, i'd say CCP is cleaning up the Mods already.
Holy **** 
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Governor LePetomane
Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.13 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo Skiff, Procurer, Hawk are all lametasticksuckiness off the top of my head.
I use a Hawk to knock out L2s when I'm on a standings grind, it's got a good cargo bay and ammo is always easy to find. This as compared to railguns, which usually demand vast quantities of some obscure hybrid ammo that nobody sells outside of trade hubs.
The Procurer definitely has to be on the short list for most useless ship in the game though.
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Ombey
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.13 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mike Seary
Originally by: Tenely Bellicose...
I win thread. What is my prize?
seriously, you just won a metric ****-ton of internets. What is the damned "de facto" purpose of that stupid boat again?
Have you ever built a Rapier? 
2d EveMaps|My blog
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.06.13 17:35:00 -
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OP is troll.
"hundreds of ships"??????
There are actually almost no ships that arent used either for invetion or used themselves.
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.13 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest OP is troll.
"hundreds of ships"??????
There are actually almost no ships that arent used either for invetion or used themselves.
Plus actually there is only 248 ships in game, including uniques, noobships and capsule... How hundreds could be useless? Then everybody fly not more then 48 ships? Lol. Even I with all my alts already used at least 68 different ships. So there is no way could not be hundreds of useless ships... I will be surprised if somebody will find at least dozen... :) ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |

CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.06.13 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: CommmanderInChief on 13/06/2009 20:45:03
Originally by: Ghoest OP is troll.
"hundreds of ships"??????
There are actually almost no ships that arent used either for invetion or used themselves.
Do you have actual statistical proof of this? or you talking crap? And by hundreds I just meant hyperthetically - jesus why do people have to take its so literally ....
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.06.13 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: CommmanderInChief And by hundreds I just meant hyperthetically - jesus why do people have to take its so literally ....
There are about 250 ships available to the player. The term hundreds usually describes 300+. So you just made more ships obsolete than there are in the game. Mighty hard not to take that literally.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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