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Smabs Higher Than Everest BricK sQuAD. 48	Posted - 2012.05.19 23:45:00 - [61] - Quote If only you'd stuck with us you would now own the worst possible constellation in the game and would've defeated powerhouse alliances like United Pod Service and Pinked! But really I'm sure there's two sides to this story.
Dawn Flare Fractured Core Fatal Ascension 24	Posted - 2012.05.20 00:20:00 - [62] - Quote Smabs wrote: If only you'd stuck with us you would now own the worst possible constellation in the game and would've defeated powerhouse alliances like United Pod Service and Pinked! But really I'm sure there's two sides to this story. Wait, really? Brick is with AAA now? Sorry AAA, you guys are screwed. These guys are so bad even riverini jumped ship.
Smabs Higher Than Everest BricK sQuAD. 48	Posted - 2012.05.20 03:23:00 - [63] - Quote No, we're pretty much doing our own thing with a few smaller blues. Thorn left us in January to join init, then they joined en garde. And now I guess they left en garde.
praying mantis01 Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities 0	Posted - 2012.05.20 18:56:00 - [64] - Quote Remember that time a 1month old character made an article on eve forums pretending he knew what was going on. oh wait
praying mantis01 Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities 0	Posted - 2012.05.20 19:02:00 - [65] - Quote also no money was given to alphastar. I lolled at tht part
Max50 Parental Control 10	Posted - 2012.05.20 21:30:00 - [66] - Quote oh my,i guess my dream of joining AAA,flying oracles and evacing 3 regions from a fight will never come trrue after all i heard here
Shaniqua Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2012.05.20 22:28:00 - [67] - Quote ouch even H31145 is laughing at AAA that must be getting painful, that's like having TIMMAY call you a tard
Crunchmeister THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance 288	Posted - 2012.05.21 03:18:00 - [68] - Quote Smabs wrote: No, we're pretty much doing our own thing with a few smaller blues. Thorn left us in January to join init, then they joined en garde. And now I guess they left en garde. We had a great time in INIT. The issue was a dead US TZ. THORN pretty much WAS the US TZ, with the exception of a few guys from SHIVA, a couple of guys from 23-7 and 1 guy from VANIS. We participated in most of the EU TZ ops, often having more members in fleet than the EU corps. We led the killboards consistently being in the top 5 for both INIT and Initiative Mercenaries for our 5 months there. If you didn't count POS modules kills, THORN was #1 in the INIT family all 5 months. SHIVA and 23-7 left, leaving us alone in the US TZ. In the end, it was the lack of US TZ activity that made us seek other avenues. We left INIT on good terms. Our joining En Garde was a horrible, horrible mistake that should never have happened. I think this is a perfect example of one of those "too good to be true" situations. Lesson learned. I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes.
Daneirkus Auralex The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore 114	Posted - 2012.05.21 07:19:00 - [69] - Quote this just in, -A- is terrible. Time to move on to bigger and better things..
Lilan Kahn The Littlest Hobos En Garde 5	Posted - 2012.05.21 08:13:00 - [70] - Quote you sell scripts for over 350k a unite get told off and start emo raging this is the best popcorn fun i have had in a year

Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 410	Posted - 2012.05.21 09:38:00 - [71] - Quote Daneirkus Auralex wrote: this just in, -A- is terrible. Time to move on to bigger and better things.. they burned all of their bridges it's back to hisec i guess eh
cBOLTSON Star Frontiers Ignore This. 41	Posted - 2012.05.21 11:26:00 - [72] - Quote Haha its good to hear what goes on. So -A- poached alpha? To be honest alpha was a good fc when we flew with you guys. Only problem is his balls still havent dropped and he has to go bed very early :P Ignore This.-á "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn
cBOLTSON Star Frontiers Ignore This. 41	Posted - 2012.05.21 11:28:00 - [73] - Quote Crunchmeister wrote: Smabs wrote: No, we're pretty much doing our own thing with a few smaller blues. Thorn left us in January to join init, then they joined en garde. And now I guess they left en garde. We had a great time in INIT. The issue was a dead US TZ. THORN pretty much WAS the US TZ, with the exception of a few guys from SHIVA, a couple of guys from 23-7 and 1 guy from VANIS. We participated in most of the EU TZ ops, often having more members in fleet than the EU corps. We led the killboards consistently being in the top 5 for both INIT and Initiative Mercenaries for our 5 months there. If you didn't count POS modules kills, THORN was #1 in the INIT family all 5 months. SHIVA and 23-7 left, leaving us alone in the US TZ. In the end, it was the lack of US TZ activity that made us seek other avenues. We left INIT on good terms. Our joining En Garde was a horrible, horrible mistake that should never have happened. I think this is a perfect example of one of those "too good to be true" situations. Lesson learned. Yea man it was the same with us. Init were great , very focused alliance but they are an EU outfit. Ignore This.-á "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn
Lilan Kahn The Littlest Hobos En Garde 5	Posted - 2012.05.21 11:48:00 - [74] - Quote Quote: [16:22:20] nairu krop > why are my members being banned on comms for selling ** on the market ... [16:35:16] Harlequin D'Earth > nairu - because your member told maka to *** do logistics himself after maka had a go at him for selling scripts at a stupid mark up price [16:35:16] CommandoJon > lol, yeah, phoe-netics spell it like it talks [16:35:36] Harlequin D'Earth > and if you read engre fleet you can see ive already mentioned it for you [16:35:55] Lahari > uh oh. maka probably didn't like that lol [16:36:00] Harlequin D'Earth > no [16:36:13] Harlequin D'Earth > hence being chewed out in public in front of 80 odd people [16:36:22] Harlequin D'Earth > and then banned when he mailed back [16:36:24] nairu krop > right, so the dude was bitching about 250k scripts [16:36:28] CommandoJon > yeah, if you can banned from -A- Comms that's a whole nother issue [16:36:35] Harlequin D'Earth > the dude is like teh main fc of -a- [16:36:42] CommandoJon > 250k? omg.... what a jerk [16:36:45] nairu krop > the dude is a child [16:36:52] Harlequin D'Earth > omg [16:36:54] Harlequin D'Earth > seriously? [16:36:56] Lord Makk > Well, thats a serious markup isnt it [16:36:56] Lahari > telling maka to off is like trying to beat a lion with a beef stick [16:37:09] nairu krop > have you never been in a fleet with him? [16:37:17] Harlequin D'Earth > rofl [16:37:21] Harlequin D'Earth > er [16:37:26] Harlequin D'Earth > sry thats funny [16:37:26] nairu krop > all he does is * [16:37:28] Lahari > some of the best fights i've had have been in his fleets [16:37:31] Lord Makk > Duly warned we all were, making serious isk on your friends isn't forgiveable, no matter the puny incident [16:37:33] Harlequin D'Earth > this is maka right? [16:37:41] Lord Makk > The scripts cost like 6k, 250k os a serious markup [16:37:42] Harlequin D'Earth > you really don't know much about the politics of -a- yet do you? [16:37:48] CommandoJon > yeah, your lucky that guy only got kicked from comms, i've seen maka kick corps for that stuff [16:37:50] Harlequin D'Earth > maybe go away and learn a bit [16:38:06] nairu krop > i know that this maka guy acts like a internet hero [16:38:12] nairu krop > when all he is is just a rage child [16:38:13] Harlequin D'Earth > ... [16:38:13] Lahari > well here is the thing [16:38:16] Harlequin D'Earth > lmfao [16:38:17] Lahari > your avoiding the issue [16:38:18] nairu krop > who berates his fleet members [16:38:19] Harlequin D'Earth > this is hillarious [16:38:28] Lord Makk > Well, here is the situation : [16:38:31] Lord Makk > he is a internet hero [16:38:32] Lord Makk > discussion over [16:38:33] Lahari > and thats your dude was marking up ** way over price [16:38:34] Lord Makk > Questions ? [16:38:48] Lahari > maka has earned his right to call out asshats [16:38:50] nairu krop > mor elike internet douchebag [16:38:54] nairu krop > who welps fleets daily [16:38:59] Harlequin D'Earth > erm [16:39:06] nairu krop > DAILY [16:39:08] Lahari > see now your just talking out your ass [16:39:10] Harlequin D'Earth > you really are a bit clueless [16:39:11] Lord Makk > Ok, please compare yourself to the top FC of -a- [16:39:16] Lord Makk > And let us laugh tonight [16:39:18] Lord Makk > Go on, spare nothing [16:39:19] Lord Makk > We await [16:39:22] Lord Makk > your epicness [16:39:23] nairu krop > i am not comparing myself to anyone [16:39:39] Ze'p Maximus > let me get popcorn [16:39:42] nairu krop > i am merely stating the facts presented in his fleets [16:39:42] Ze'p Maximus > stand by n++
Lilan Kahn The Littlest Hobos En Garde 5	Posted - 2012.05.21 11:48:00 - [75] - Quote Quote: n++[ 2012.05.12 16:39:49 ] Lahari > just misdirecting ** toward maka when its your dude thats marking up like that n++[ 2012.05.12 16:39:52 ] Lord Makk > How can you not see that buying something for 6k, selling it for 250 is scamming the shite out of your allies ? n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:20 ] nairu krop > eve is a free market, if you want to complain about someone putting effort out to seed you staging system n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:27 ] Ze'p Maximus > if you want a rip ppl go do it else where n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:30 ] nairu krop > he was not buying from system and relisting n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:44 ] Lahari > nice excuse n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:45 ] nairu krop > he was using his own means to move from jita to system n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:50 ] nairu krop > with no help from anyone else n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:50 ] Lord Makk > Yeah, eve is a free market, however do you defend ripping your mates off ? n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:56 ] Lahari > oh god n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:04 ] Lahari > free to rip off your allies? n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:07 ] nairu krop > right, if people dont like it, they can put the effort in to seed themselves n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:13 ] nairu krop > he was not buying low orders n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:14 ] Lord Makk > Oh they will n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:20 ] nairu krop > he set a price sceiling n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:21 ] Lahari > yeah, it will happen n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:36 ] Lahari > once im done over here, i think ill take a crack at it n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:43 ] nairu krop > establishing a free market price ceiling, based on supply and demand, is not wrong n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:47 ] Lahari > kinda tired of market divas n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:02 ] Ze'p Maximus > can i came and kill you? n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:08 ] nairu krop > price ceiling are made to encourage more people to seed n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:18 ] nairu krop > the more people that seed, the lowprices get n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:23 ] Lord Makk > Creative excuse here n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:29 ] Lord Makk > I think we have a philosophic evening ahead of us n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:31 ] nairu krop > it isnt creative, its fact n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:35 ] Lahari > no, its intended to take advantage of an immediate need at an inflated profit n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:49 ] Lord Makk > Seed the market in Misaba, CVA can use some scammin' n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:04 ] Lahari > you don't manupulate markets for your allies n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:14 ] nairu krop > he didnt manipulate the market n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:19 ] nairu krop > he imported from jita n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:23 ] nairu krop > and set a market ceiling n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:26 ] Lahari > yeah wow, impresseve n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:29 ] Lord Makk > And sold it at 4000% over cost n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:33 ] nairu krop > he did not buyout local prices n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:36 ] Lahari > he flew a few jumps in empire n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:38 ] Lahari > wow n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:41 ] nairu krop > right n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:43 ] nairu krop > did you do it?> n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:45 ] nairu krop > no n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:46 ] Lord Makk > Anyone can redfrog these days n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:50 ] Lahari > yeah i did n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:53 ] nairu krop > do you have motivation to do it now? n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:55 ] nairu krop > yes n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:02 ] CommandoJon > ok, not constructive but, what are you guys still doing here? i mean it seems you exist to cause drama, our market and whine about everything, or it just you? your corp has kills just cut back the drama n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:03 ] Lord Makk > wtf do you know? maybe I have an market alt with 350 orders up ? n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:04 ] nairu krop > its the free market n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:29 ] Lahari > not a team player n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:30 ] Lord Makk > Free markettoscamurfriends with n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:46 ] nairu krop > oh i am a team player n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:55 ] Lahari > yeah, but your not on the right team n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:01 ] Ze'p Maximus > if you dont understun a fack your scamming your alliance mates get out of alliance pls n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:36 ] Harlequin D'Earth > no leave it, don't emo on him - i want to wait for maka to do it :p n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:46 ] Lahari > lol n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:46 ] Lord Makk > ccc n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:52 ] Ze'p Maximus > \o/ n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:56 ] Lahari > oh and he will n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:58 ] nairu krop > bring maka on, i will crush his ***** sole have a nice day
Muul Udonii THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance 84	Posted - 2012.05.21 13:16:00 - [76] - Quote Scripts are STILL selling at 250k as AAA never bothered to do the logistics themselves, and they are STILL the cheapest in system. The 250k ones were listed as all cheaper ones were being bought up by the alt of one of the FCs and immediately relisted at 1million ISK. He got mad cos he wasn't making any profit of his whelped fleets any more as he was being undercut by THORN Logistics. And really the point of that wall of text is 'why is banning a logistics pilot from comms a suitable way to deal with the lack of logistics AAA is willing to do?' Way to go, you just reduced your fleet composition by up to 2, and pissed off a 100 man corp in the process. /me Golfclaps For the record Makalakkaloo; the professional way to deal with somone you believe is selling things higher than you would like them to be sold for; is to approach his corp leadership. The best thing to do tho, is HTFU or learn to do logistics yourself if 200k makes all the difference to you. Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of. But you have heard of us.
Evanga Trust Doesn't Rust En Garde 9	Posted - 2012.05.21 14:00:00 - [77] - Quote Can i FINALLY shoot your neutral cyno alts now? --> <--
Indeterminacy THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance 196	Posted - 2012.05.21 17:19:00 - [78] - Quote Too much fun guys, just too much. fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut.
Evanga Trust Doesn't Rust En Garde 9	Posted - 2012.05.21 19:43:00 - [79] - Quote Indeterminacy wrote: Too much fun guys, just too much. fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut. u want a hug?
low26 Politically Incorrect Brushie Brushie Brushie 39	Posted - 2012.05.21 20:01:00 - [80] - Quote Screw em Lucian, Come chill in Curse for a while.

No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 197	Posted - 2012.05.22 02:48:00 - [81] - Quote Dirty scammers, play honourably or don't play at all. .
Verte Sinkon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 40	Posted - 2012.05.22 04:08:00 - [82] - Quote How does one join AAA anyway? I want to make mountains of money selling loads of cheap **** at 50x markup because goddamn. It is like some sort of scamming wonderland over there apparently.
Fiberton StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance 13	Posted - 2012.05.22 06:27:00 - [83] - Quote We love Thorn and Bricksquad. I was just talking to Darius III and also Choas just yesterday. Good times then. We all should get together soon and pay some guys a visit. Feels like its getting time to set the war machine on fire :) Fly safe brothers. Chaos Overdrive wrote: Horath Blackguts wrote: Xolani1990 wrote: Let me get this straight. They poached alphastarpilot because they wanted him as an FC? Ahahahahaha You may be surprised. He's not the same kid who lead those absolutely awful gate camps of EC- back in the old NC days. He has grown up a lot and is a decent and competent FC. Furthermore, he doesn't emo rage at his fleetmembers for his own bad calls and mistakes like -A- FCs do. I have no problems joining his fleets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3jQA4-zLOk The video is a bit old and moldy, but this was last September. First part of the video displays Alphastarpilot's dominance over the feeble Test Alliance. "They're suiciding into us." <-áI believe he is right > Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Crunchmeister THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance 290	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:34:00 - [84] - Quote Lucian James wrote: We're just here for pew, social fun and teamwork. Plenty of grunts out there understand this, but seems a lot of leadership would rather hoard imaginary isk and pixels than put them to use. Right here. That's the reason I fly with these crazy bastards in THORN. We take things seriously enough that we want to be good at what we do (and we are), but not seriously enough to suck the fun out of it. Finding that balance between fun and being serious is the key. I think you're completely right here Lucian. At the "grunt" level, regardless of the corp or alliance, this is well understood. But often leadership - particularly of large alliances / coalitions - forget this. It becomes about being "space rich" (often on the backs of members) and the imaginary sense of power that they've attained in game. I can't honestly see how this is enjoyable for anyone. I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes.
Lykouleon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 454	Posted - 2012.05.22 20:01:00 - [85] - Quote Evanga wrote: Indeterminacy wrote: Too much fun guys, just too much. fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut. u want a hug? I would like a hug. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Hratli Smirks GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 229	Posted - 2012.05.22 20:07:00 - [86] - Quote Lykouleon wrote: Evanga wrote: Indeterminacy wrote: Too much fun guys, just too much. fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut. u want a hug? I would like a hug. I, too, would like a hug.
Eskalin Evolution IT Alliance 43	Posted - 2012.05.22 21:30:00 - [87] - Quote cBOLTSON wrote: Crunchmeister wrote: Smabs wrote: No, we're pretty much doing our own thing with a few smaller blues. Thorn left us in January to join init, then they joined en garde. And now I guess they left en garde. We had a great time in INIT. The issue was a dead US TZ. THORN pretty much WAS the US TZ, with the exception of a few guys from SHIVA, a couple of guys from 23-7 and 1 guy from VANIS. We participated in most of the EU TZ ops, often having more members in fleet than the EU corps. We led the killboards consistently being in the top 5 for both INIT and Initiative Mercenaries for our 5 months there. If you didn't count POS modules kills, THORN was #1 in the INIT family all 5 months. SHIVA and 23-7 left, leaving us alone in the US TZ. In the end, it was the lack of US TZ activity that made us seek other avenues. We left INIT on good terms. Our joining En Garde was a horrible, horrible mistake that should never have happened. I think this is a perfect example of one of those "too good to be true" situations. Lesson learned. Yea man it was the same with us. Init were great , very focused alliance but they are an EU outfit. +1 for evolution on this. too bad we all weren't in INIT. at the same time we would have had a ustz =) VoV Robster Craws
Hratli Smirks GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 229	Posted - 2012.05.22 21:44:00 - [88] - Quote Lucian James wrote: Alphastarpilot is without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-support FCs in game.. why else would MV poach him? #1-4 are Vee, Vily, Laz and DaBigRedBoat
Powers Sa GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 180	Posted - 2012.05.22 22:56:00 - [89] - Quote Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf wrote: Considering we already have offers to join -A- blues who agree wholeheartedly with our assessment of -A-, I'd say this FC is overestimating both his influence and importance. Why do people in the region put up with this?
Din'stalor Alaric THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance 78	Posted - 2012.05.22 23:56:00 - [90] - Quote Crunchmeister wrote: Lucian James wrote: We're just here for pew, social fun and teamwork. Plenty of grunts out there understand this, but seems a lot of leadership would rather hoard imaginary isk and pixels than put them to use. Right here. That's the reason I fly with these crazy bastards in THORN. We take things seriously enough that we want to be good at what we do (and we are), but not seriously enough to suck the fun out of it. Finding that balance between fun and being serious is the key. I think you're completely right here Lucian. At the "grunt" level, regardless of the corp or alliance, this is well understood. But often leadership - particularly of large alliances / coalitions - forget this. It becomes about being "space rich" (often on the backs of members) and the imaginary sense of power that they've attained in game. I can't honestly see how this is enjoyable for anyone. I highlighted the part which doesn't apply to me, since i am the worst solo pvp pilot in game. I mean, even on our EPIC bombing run to kill makakakalaka laa laa, where i was frappings and bombing, i still managed to die! Also contains great comms of a eve chick raging at me for recording, and she called our beloved leader Lucian a scrub. Heres a link for you all to admire the epicness of makas podding and munnin loss, as well as my epicness of fail. Emo Chick and Epic Bomb Solo 4 Life.1v1 always honored, flying without booster alt since Oct 2010.No ransoms honored even if offered :)



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