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Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.17 00:29:00 -
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Summary: THORN Syndicate leaves -A- bloc. (tl:dr at the bottom)
After an outstanding 5 month contract with The Initiative in The North, THORN Syndicate (hereinafter THORN) withdrew in hopes of finding an alliance with a better US time zone presence. During this search our CEO was contacted by a sponsor from the -A- block. Through various conversations between this sponsor and the THORN leadership, THORN was lead to believe that upon joining En Garde the following would occur:
(a) A move to change En Garde from a feeder alliance to a partner PVP alliance.
(b)Full reimbursements for all ships (including ships lost during CTAs and on roams)
(c)Full ratting rights throughout -A-GÇÿs territories, with few exceptions.
(d)Full member (rather than renter) status;
(e)Fulfilling and entertaining PVP fleets with various -A-GÇÿs FCs
(f)A good working relationship based on the former NC leaders and the Thorn leadership.
Upon joining En Garde it was discovered that these promises were either grossly overstated, if not blatantly untrue.
While promised full reimbursements for all losses, the reimbursement policy turned out to be severely limited. The policy did not include roams and generally covered only hull cost on CTAs.
The ratting rights granted to En Garde were limited only to their own sov systems, all of which have poor security levels and a couple of -A- systems, and were to be shared by more than 2000 pilots, on a pipe, with no stations. En Garde pilots found ratting outside of these limited systems are KOS for the rest of -A-.
As we registered and logged onto the En Garde forums the only stickied post was GÇ£Alliance Dues.GÇ¥ Inside, our members found the following:
Quote:Starting May 1st, we will require every corporation in alliance to pay 4M ISK PER CHARACTER per month. In order to break up some of the burden, corporations will be required to pay 2M ISK/toon on the 1st & 15th of each month.
One of the primary reasons THORN had joined -A- was to participate in fleets with a strong US timezone presence. Unfortunately, many -A- FCs are not pleasant to fly with. For instance, one of GÇôA-GÇÿs most famous FCs, Makalu, would call out vague and confusing orders often leading to the deaths of the majority of his fleet members who were following his orders. He would then berate his pilots for 20 minutes while en route home. This is not to say that all of the -A- FCs act poorly under fire, there were exceptions, but a significant number of them have such poor social skills that would see them in better positions as abusive guards at gulags rather than as FCs that need to deal with people.
It also became abundantly clear during these fleets that -A- members treated En Garde with complete and utter disdain. While asking them to behave like an independent alliance in fleets, -A- leadership and membership alike would make constant disparaging remarks about how ENGRE are worthless scrubs and should be set red, kicked, were all goon rejects etc.
We then learned that our sponsor was talking down our corp... to one of our FCs, alphastarpilot. Within days he was bribed with a lump sum of ISK, promises of enhanced reimbursement, and a senior FC spot, which he accepted. Other corp members then started openly reminiscing about their "old friends in an unnamed -A- corp". Totally a coincidence, we're sure.
-A- has a 30% markup market policy. One industrious THORN marketeer was berated by an -A- FC privately and publicly for undercutting the -A- FC's alt's products by 75% and subsequently banned from -A- comms. That's right: -A- FC's skirt around their own market rules and welp fleets to make extra isk off their own pilots.. and ban anyone who finds out.
Also, the -A- block seems to have a hard time resisting the urge to pop neutral cyno ships. In particular on the staging station as a blue JF comes through, or on a station with blue carrier repping it. Announcements in local that this was a "friendly cyno" were met with comments of "NBSI". On other occasions, -A- pilots would go out of their way to shoot "neutral" cynos sitting on a blue POS, in a bubble, baiting hostiles. Now that's solo PvP at its finest!
Given these problems, the THORN members voted to leave En Garde. Leadership authorized going rogue on -A- FCs. An -A- Muninn fleet was spotted and one poor soul (the FC) became the unfortunate target and his ship and pod were destroyed in a precision munitions strike.
hilarity ensued
Quote:-A- FC > how about i blacklist your corp in about oh...90% of eve?
Quote:-A- Grunt > well if maka would have just done some logistics
-A- Grunt > none of this would have happened
Quote:-A- Grunt 2> This is fun to watch. It's like watching the special olympics.
tl:dr What to expect if you join En Garde (regardless of what your recruiter may say)
(a) poaching corp members
(b) FCs profit welping their own pilots, using alts to break their own rules
(c) useless ratting rights
(d) rent payments
(e) raging FCs
(f) to be treated like a 3yr old
(g) inadequate reimbursements[/quote]
THORN Alliance Information Minister |
Lucian James
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
95
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Posted - 2012.05.17 00:41:00 -
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What an aweful stint in -A-.. and I was on vacation most of the time!
If you're thinking of joining -a-.. they aren't the friends you remember.. maybe they never were.
Poachers, liars & scammers.
-A- brings us in to build up a US TZ for them in EnGay, stating very clear & loudly it is no longer to be a feeder alliance to -A-... then have the nerve to poach my FCs while I'm on a cruise. 
How dumb can you be to jump the gun and just start blatantly poaching ppl... cuz if they played their cards right we'd have delivered them a whole us tz to poach! We had a huge plan that would have created a badass us tz powerblock but it was rejected based on the fact it would work 
This is a result of the human centipede that is -A-: a creature survivng by eating its own sh:t.
And then we find out their FCs use alts to break their 30% markup rule to sell to all the pilots they intentionally welp.. making large amounts of isk off their own pilots.. banning the guys that expose it :p
I assume they're intentionally welping their fleets.. else their FCs suck at their job as much as they do in morals conning their own fleetmates.
Avoid these folks like the plague they are on their own people, folks!
To Mittani & Goons, I owe you an apology, I thought you guys were the worst, lowest creatures in game.
-A- has you beat.
To quote a friend, at least Goons take care of their own.
-Keef Drow / Lucian James
PS: Alphastarpilot's back in THORN now... trollielollielol  |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
173
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Posted - 2012.05.17 00:44:00 -
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So, we're joining Goons now? |
Lucian James
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
95
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Posted - 2012.05.17 00:45:00 -
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Lucian James wrote:What an aweful stint in -A-.. and I was on vacation most of the time! If you're thinking of joining -a-.. they aren't the friends you remember.. maybe they never were. Poachers, liars & scammers. -A- brings us in to build up a US TZ for them in EnGay, stating very clear & loudly it is no longer to be a feeder alliance to -A-... then have the nerve to poach my FCs while I'm on a cruise. How dumb can you be to jump the gun and just start blatantly poaching ppl... cuz if they played their cards right we'd have delivered them a whole us tz to poach! We had a huge plan that would have created a badass us tz powerblock but it was rejected based on the fact it would work This is a result of the human centipede that is -A-: a creature survivng by eating its own sh:t. And then we find out their FCs use alts to break their 30% markup rule to sell to all the pilots they intentionally welp.. making large amounts of isk off their own pilots.. banning the guys that expose it :p I assume they're intentionally welping their fleets.. else their FCs suck at their job as much as they do in morals conning their own fleetmates. Avoid these folks like the plague they are on their own people, folks! To Mittani & Goons, I owe you an apology, I thought you guys were the worst, lowest creatures in game. -A- has you beat. To quote a friend, "at least Goons take care of their own." -Keef Drow / Lucian James PS: Alphastarpilot's back in THORN now... trollielollielol
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Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.05.17 00:46:00 -
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Indeterminacy wrote:So, we're joining Goons now?
There are no Goons in Eve. EVER!
THORN Alliance Information Minister |
stars0ft
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.05.17 00:54:00 -
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after seeing what -a- had to offer, i feel very guilty knowing we left so many poor -a- souls behind to suffer such an unpleasent gaming experiance.
Enjoy the Koolaid. |
Prop Wash
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.05.17 00:57:00 -
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Huh. It's a good thing that you posted here to tell us, because otherwise I'm not sure any of us would have figured out that AAA is a vaguely embarrassing shadow of its former self. Thanks for the heads-up :)
All the best,
Prop Wash |
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures
Tribal Dragons
113
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Posted - 2012.05.17 01:52:00 -
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4 mil per char, that's basically like pennies. |
MaCoola
Angels of Valour
Brushie Brushie Brushie
0
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Posted - 2012.05.17 01:53:00 -
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I know what you mean. AAA is terrible now. Maka, PK, and most of their FCs are aholes. I have seen exactly what you are talking about. They bad mouth en garde all the time and welp fleets to make isk. Pretty sad. I used to like them but now I lol at them. Before I sold my previous character I used to be in Cascade (don;t get me started on Archie) and I saw firsthand all of of it. Screaming emoraging FCs, stupid drake fleets, and more. As you have seen sadly. I miss the old AAA way bad when they were pretty cool and fun to pew pew with and against.
Best of luck to you guys as I have heard you guys are pretty cool. |
Lovelocke
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
90
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Posted - 2012.05.17 05:55:00 -
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tl;dr
Thorn joins a terrible alliance and is surprised to find that alliance is terrible.
<3 Lucian |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
987
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Posted - 2012.05.17 09:38:00 -
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well okay then |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
636
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Posted - 2012.05.17 10:17:00 -
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Do some alliances really still get corporations to pay a 'membership' fee? Really?
If theres somethign I really cant stand its this kind of politics in nullsec, the whole pets, renters, meatshields thing, alliances making money off their corporations and giving nothing back.
I dont care if you are a friend or an enemy of mine, anyone who offers this kind of a home doesnt deserve your pilots. Find better people to give your time to.
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Wishdokkta CEO
The Riot Formation
Get Off My Lawn
14
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Posted - 2012.05.17 10:29:00 -
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Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf wrote:Quote:-A- FC > how about i blacklist your corp in about oh...90% of eve?
I lolled.
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WarFireV
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
40
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Posted - 2012.05.17 12:16:00 -
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This topic is so hilarious I don't even need to say anything.
It's like going into a boxing match and just standing there as the other guys starts beating his own face in. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
256
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Posted - 2012.05.17 12:50:00 -
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The emo-rage FCs are absolutely the worse. STFU, step up, and take responsibility for your bad calls. Learn from your mistakes and how not to repeat them. Shifting blame solves nothing. Berating your pilots for following your bad orders is not productive. I'm surprised anyone still fleets up with you turds.
For the membership, I think stars0ft hit the nail on the head calling it Stockholm Syndrome. I can't see what else it would be. I pay my subscription to play a game to have fun. I don't pay to listen to some raging nerd with an overly inflated ego, a sense of entitlement, no sense of responsibility, and an utter lack of social skills screaming at me for doing exactly what he ordered.
And I have to agree that they're intentionally welping fleets to sell overpriced replacements to members. No one can be this bad and be one of the dominant power blocs in the game. After witnessing one senior FC welp into FA 3 times in one afternoon (seriously - FA!!! wtf?!?!?) making blatantly obvious bad calls that got the fleets welped each time, then seeing the abundance of our ship types and modules on the market for grossly inflated prices between the outings (all sold by neutrals, who magically make available exactly what we need when we need it), it would be pretty hard to convince me that it's anything else but.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
256
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Posted - 2012.05.17 12:55:00 -
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fail edit ended up quoting... Ugh. Hate this forum.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Xolani1990
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2012.05.17 13:04:00 -
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Let me get this straight.
They poached alphastarpilot because they wanted him as an FC?
Ahahahahaha |
Horath Blackguts
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
24
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Posted - 2012.05.17 13:46:00 -
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Xolani1990 wrote:Let me get this straight.
They poached alphastarpilot because they wanted him as an FC?
Ahahahahaha
You may be surprised. He's not the same kid who lead those absolutely awful gate camps of EC- back in the old NC days. He has grown up a lot and is a decent and competent FC. More importantly, he doesn't emo rage at his own fleetmembers for his own bad calls and mistakes like -A- FCs do. I have no problems joining his fleets. |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core
Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:02:00 -
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Horath Blackguts wrote:Xolani1990 wrote:Let me get this straight.
They poached alphastarpilot because they wanted him as an FC?
Ahahahahaha You may be surprised. He's not the same kid who lead those absolutely awful gate camps of EC- back in the old NC days. He has grown up a lot and is a decent and competent FC. Furthermore, he doesn't emo rage at his fleetmembers for his own bad calls and mistakes like -A- FCs do. I have no problems joining his fleets.
Hes gotta be what, 14 or 15 by now? |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
260
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:29:00 -
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14 now. In the last year of flying with him, I've seen him mature pretty significantly, both as a person and as an FC. It's not surprising that anyone would want this kid as an FC in their corp or alliance. Honestly, he puts much of the "old pros" to shame.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
mute
Attero Inc
Attero Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:45:00 -
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Who is THORN? |
MaCoola
Angels of Valour
Brushie Brushie Brushie
8
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:46:00 -
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[quote=Crunchmeister]The emo-rage FCs are absolutely the worse. STFU, step up, and take responsibility for your bad calls. Learn from your mistakes and how not to repeat them. Shifting blame solves nothing. Berating your pilots for following your bad orders is not productive. I'm surprised anyone still fleets up with you turds. Try showing respect in order to get some.
For the membership, I think stars0ft hit the nail on the head calling it Stockholm Syndrome. I can't see what else it would be. I pay my subscription to play a game to have fun. I don't pay to listen to some raging nerd with an overly inflated ego, a sense of entitlement, no sense of responsibility, and an utter lack of social skills screaming at me for doing exactly what he ordered. If I wanted to put up with that kind of treatment and pay for the privilege, I'd get married again. "
rofl!! Well said, freakin well said lol.
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Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
181
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:49:00 -
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WarFireV wrote:This topic is so hilarious I don't even need to say anything.
It's like going into a boxing match and just standing there as the other guys starts beating his own face in.
I hope for your sake maka doesn't see you've posted on CAOD in violation of your alliance rules.
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:4 mil per char, that's basically like pennies.
Then go join the -A- block. The rest of us don't need to pay isk for some PVP...nevermind paying to be treated like a redheaded step child. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
264
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Posted - 2012.05.17 15:02:00 -
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Indeterminacy wrote:Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:4 mil per char, that's basically like pennies. Then go join the -A- block. The rest of us don't need to pay isk for some PVP...nevermind paying to be treated like a redheaded step child.
It's the principal, not the amount. The amount is insignificant.
"No, we're not a renter alliance. We don't charge rent. Come join us."
"Oh, how that you're in, you owe us 400M isk in membership fees. But it's NOT rent. "
A turd by any other name stinks just as bad.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Horath Blackguts
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
26
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Posted - 2012.05.17 16:37:00 -
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Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:4 mil per char, that's basically like pennies.
Its more insidious than simply 4M per month. It's 4M per character, and 4m per alt. If you try to use neutral cyno alts, -A- will pop them and urge you to add your characters to corp. The policy is purely ISK generation on the backs of its members. |
jiantsquidz
I N E X T R E M I S
Fidelas Constans
11
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Posted - 2012.05.17 17:12:00 -
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Despite what some people may think of alphastarpilot i actualy enjoyed flying with him before, he was allready a person that stood up to FC fleets and was/is willing to learn from others or mistakes.
imo thorn should join us :D |
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
109
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Posted - 2012.05.17 17:21:00 -
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WarFireV wrote:This topic is so hilarious I don't even need to say anything.
It's like going into a boxing match and just standing there as the other guys starts beating his own face in.
Um, I think he was punching the **** out of your alliance. Try a different analogy.
"The Mittani isn't even gone for a day and CCP's management is already making bad decisions."
THE MITTANI for CEO of CCP
1-800-273-8255 |
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
20
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Posted - 2012.05.17 17:53:00 -
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Wishdokkta CEO wrote:Quote:-A- FC > how about i blacklist your corp in about oh...90% of eve? I lolled.
RIghtfully so. THORN Mumble was roaring with laughter when this appeared in local.
Considering we already have offers from -A- blues to join them (who incidentally agree wholeheartedly with our assessment of -A-), I'd say this FC is overestimating both his influence and importance.
THORN Information Minister |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
270
|
Posted - 2012.05.17 18:27:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Do some alliances really still get corporations to pay a 'membership' fee? .
It's the Kool Aid they make the renters drink so they don't see themselves labelled with the stigma of being bottom-of-the-barrel renter scrubs. It strokes their ego enough to make them willing to cough up the monthly "membership fee to an exclusive club". I mean "EEEEEEWWWWW"... Renter? Of course not! They're paying members! That's totally different!
On a side note, I wonder what En Garde leadership (which btw is 1 member from AAA - the En Garde "leaders" are just corp directors serving as junior management with no authority) plans on doing with that roughtly 8B isk / month in "membership fees" they collect. Not a bad scam if you ask me.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:56:00 -
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You know, I knew AAA was **** but I didn't realize just how ****. This is beyond my wildest dreams. The idea that every person I help cause financial loss to is scammed by their own leadership is great.
Also, the fact that there are rules forbidding posting on COAD is amazing. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
270
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:30:00 -
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Verte Sinkon wrote:Also, the fact that there are rules forbidding posting on COAD is amazing.
You gotta keep the sheeple dumb and blind. Allowing them to go somewhere they can formulate their own ideas is very hazardous to the status quo.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Chaos Overdrive
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:35:00 -
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Horath Blackguts wrote:Xolani1990 wrote:Let me get this straight.
They poached alphastarpilot because they wanted him as an FC?
Ahahahahaha You may be surprised. He's not the same kid who lead those absolutely awful gate camps of EC- back in the old NC days. He has grown up a lot and is a decent and competent FC. Furthermore, he doesn't emo rage at his fleetmembers for his own bad calls and mistakes like -A- FCs do. I have no problems joining his fleets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3jQA4-zLOk The video is a bit old and moldy, but this was last September. First part of the video displays Alphastarpilot's dominance over the feeble Test Alliance.
"They're suiciding into us." |
Lucian James
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
112
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:58:00 -
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Chaos Overdrive wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3jQA4-zLOk The video is a bit old and moldy, but this was last September. First part of the video displays Alphastarpilot's dominance over the feeble Test Alliance. "They're suiciding into us."
...but to be fair.. it was TEST (;
Alphastarpilot is without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-support FCs in game.. why else would MV poach him? 
We've got a few good FCs in THORN.. some learning too.. I'd consider us an FC corp. It works out quite well in fleets with multiple FC-level pilots; those of us not in command will go probe, scout, check maps, etc. to assist the lead FC.
Great place to learn, I can see why our FCs, pilots and US TZ presence are so desirable and poachable. Those that have flown with us can attest.
We're just here for pew, social fun and teamwork. Plenty of grunts out there understand this, but seems a lot of leadership would rather hoard imaginary isk and pixels than put them to use.
Guess what b:tches, ya can't have our efforts if you're hoarding sh:tpiles!
-Keef / Lucian |
Chaos Overdrive
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:01:00 -
[34] - Quote
Who the hell is Attero? |
WarFireV
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
41
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:17:00 -
[35] - Quote
Verte Sinkon wrote:Also, the fact that there are rules forbidding posting on COAD is amazing.
Nope, no rules against COAD. |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
185
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:22:00 -
[36] - Quote
Dawn Flare wrote:Horath Blackguts wrote:Xolani1990 wrote:Let me get this straight.
They poached alphastarpilot because they wanted him as an FC?
Ahahahahaha You may be surprised. He's not the same kid who lead those absolutely awful gate camps of EC- back in the old NC days. He has grown up a lot and is a decent and competent FC. Furthermore, he doesn't emo rage at his fleetmembers for his own bad calls and mistakes like -A- FCs do. I have no problems joining his fleets. Hes gotta be what, 14 or 15 by now?
You should know this dear, never ask a lady her age. |
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
24
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:27:00 -
[37] - Quote
WarFireV wrote:Nope, no rules against COAD.
I beg to differ. It's been there for a long time
From https://forum.a-killed.me/showthread.php?3188-Alliance-Rules (only accessible by registered members)
Screenshot:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/317919_10151704637490453_500800452_24098005_878225454_n.jpg
Text for those that can't see the pic:
Against ALL Authority forums wrote:
Behavior in alliance and in fleet:
- no smack , no insulting , pay respect to your neighbours in game(mature
behavior)
- no talking on CAOD or in local
You were saying WarFireV?
THORN Information Minister |
gtiness
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
24
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:31:00 -
[38] - Quote
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf wrote:
- no smack , no insulting , pay respect to your neighbours in game(mature
behavior)
ahhh hahahaha hahah :breath: hahaha aaaahhh hahahah
Pretty obvious that nobody in -A- reads their own forums I'd say. |
Selpy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
43
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:41:00 -
[39] - Quote
lol it's funny because people who were in the pet alliance less than 10 days know the rules better than someone that's been in the main alliance almost 2 years. that's some pro **** right there. |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.05.18 00:22:00 -
[40] - Quote
WarFireV wrote:Verte Sinkon wrote:Also, the fact that there are rules forbidding posting on COAD is amazing. Nope, no rules against COAD.
I am now deeply saddened.
edit: ahahaha nevermind! |
WarFireV
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
41
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Posted - 2012.05.18 03:12:00 -
[41] - Quote
Yes, I will be sure to read that post from 2009 someday. |
Chaos Overdrive
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
10
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Posted - 2012.05.18 03:36:00 -
[42] - Quote
Guess -A- leadership feels no need to follow their own rules.
"Do as I say, not as I do" right, -A-? |
sporkine
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.05.18 06:43:00 -
[43] - Quote
Crunchmeister wrote:
On a side note, I wonder what En Garde leadership (which is 1 member from AAA. En Garde "leaders" are just corp directors serving as junior management with no authority) plans on doing with that roughtly 8B isk / month in "membership fees" they collect.
Not a bad scam if you ask me.
they use the isk to pay for the 5 cyno gens they have active...... 5/6 systems have cyno gens. way to go chicken heads.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
382
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Posted - 2012.05.18 07:21:00 -
[44] - Quote
maybe you guys shouldn't have burned all your bridges after you lost the north
just sayin'
eh |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
187
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Posted - 2012.05.18 08:03:00 -
[45] - Quote
Lucian James wrote:Chaos Overdrive wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3jQA4-zLOk The video is a bit old and moldy, but this was last September. First part of the video displays Alphastarpilot's dominance over the feeble Test Alliance. "They're suiciding into us." ...but to be fair.. it was TEST (; Alphastarpilot is without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-support FCs in game.. why else would MV poach him? We've got a few good FCs in THORN.. some learning too.. I'd consider us an FC corp. It works out quite well in fleets with multiple FC-level pilots; those of us not in command will go probe, scout, check maps, etc. to assist the lead FC. Great place to learn, I can see why our FCs, pilots and US TZ presence are so desirable and poachable. Those that have flown with us can attest. We're just here for pew, social fun and teamwork. Plenty of grunts out there understand this, but seems a lot of leadership would rather hoard imaginary isk and pixels than put them to use. Guess what b:tches, ya can't have our efforts if you're hoarding sh:tpiles! -Keef / Lucian
Then you stick to your own corp/alliance and don't join others that have power over you, because it will almost always end the same way when things turn bad.. The main corps will always try to steal the good pilots & FCs away from you. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
382
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 08:16:00 -
[46] - Quote
Mutnin wrote:Then you stick to your own corp/alliance and don't join others that have power over you, because it will almost always end the same way when things turn bad.. The main corps will always try to steal the good pilots & FCs away from you.
stop being in horrible alliances?
eh |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
187
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 08:57:00 -
[47] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Mutnin wrote:Then you stick to your own corp/alliance and don't join others that have power over you, because it will almost always end the same way when things turn bad.. The main corps will always try to steal the good pilots & FCs away from you. stop being in horrible alliances?
Isn't there a topic just 1 or 2 posts apart from this one with those Black Mark guys complaining that you CFC guys just poached half their corps.. |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
80
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 11:40:00 -
[48] - Quote
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf wrote:Wishdokkta CEO wrote:Quote:-A- FC > how about i blacklist your corp in about oh...90% of eve? I lolled. RIghtfully so. THORN Mumble was roaring with laughter when this appeared in local. Considering we already have offers to join -A- blues who agree wholeheartedly with our assessment of -A-, I'd say this FC is overestimating both his influence and importance.
And add to that the immediate convos from our friends within the ranks of -A- voicing support for us, and shock at what we had uncovered.
I doubt The quoted FC could even manage to get us blacklisted to 90% of his own Corp, let alone eve!
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
35
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 13:03:00 -
[49] - Quote
WarFireV wrote:Yes, I will be sure to read that post from 2009 someday.
We all know a sticky at the top of the Announcements section labelled "Alliance Rules" will be irrelevant if it's not updated daily.
Keep digging.
THORN Information Minister |
Metal Icarus
xHELLonEARTHx
Rookie Empire
178
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 13:56:00 -
[50] - Quote
-A- scamming ex-CFC alliance?
My faith in humanity was restored by just a little bit. |
Selpy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
46
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 14:05:00 -
[51] - Quote
Metal Icarus wrote:-A- scamming ex-CFC alliance?
My faith in humanity was restored by just a little bit.
huh??? ex-cfc? if you're referring to thorn, there is no cfc association. don't know where you'd get that idea. poor reading skills maybe? |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
194
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 15:13:00 -
[52] - Quote
Metal Icarus wrote:-A- scamming ex-CFC alliance?
My faith in humanity was restored by just a little bit.
Pistols at dawn, son. |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
81
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 15:47:00 -
[53] - Quote
Indeterminacy wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:-A- scamming ex-CFC alliance? Pistols at dawn, son.
I suspect you'll find his bedroom immolated by a well placed shrapnel bomb well before dawn.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
260
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 15:54:00 -
[54] - Quote
Selpy wrote:huh??? ex-cfc? if you're referring to thorn, there is no cfc association. don't know where you'd get that idea. poor reading skills maybe?
Looks like you didn't get the memo: anyone who has ever shot anyone who has at some point in their history not been blue to CFC is a member of the CFC. How else do you think we have 90,000 members or whatever the whackjob count is these days? |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
651
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 17:31:00 -
[55] - Quote
Snow Axe wrote:Selpy wrote:huh??? ex-cfc? if you're referring to thorn, there is no cfc association. don't know where you'd get that idea. poor reading skills maybe? Looks like you didn't get the memo: anyone who has ever shot anyone who has at some point in their history not been blue to CFC is a member of the CFC. How else do you think we have 90,000 members or whatever the whackjob count is these days?
Last I heard on the Eve-Os we were all of nullsec and the only people we shoot at are now hisec miners, was this wrong? Only Ive deployed to Jita...
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Din'stalor Alaric
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
76
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 17:45:00 -
[56] - Quote
The only time i logged onto -A- comms and some chick was raging at me for recording, she made me have a little wee it was that hot.
Wanna hear it? I included it in a bombing run video recently made to kill the -A- fc who sucks balls and welps fleets. I also heard maka was once touched by gypsies as a child, this could of course be untrue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC4u2hZb8TI&feature=g-upl
Solo 4 Life.1v1 always honored, flying without booster alt since Oct 2010.No ransoms honored even if offered :) |
Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
Tactical Narcotics Team
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 18:09:00 -
[57] - Quote
Mutnin wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Mutnin wrote:Then you stick to your own corp/alliance and don't join others that have power over you, because it will almost always end the same way when things turn bad.. The main corps will always try to steal the good pilots & FCs away from you. stop being in horrible alliances? Isn't there a topic just 1 or 2 posts apart from this one with those Black Mark guys complaining that you CFC guys just poached half their corps..
No it was a thread where many Black Mark ex pilots posted that they left on their own, once they realized that the alliance was on a downward spiral. |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core
Fatal Ascension
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.18 23:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Mithrantir Ob'lontra wrote:Mutnin wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Mutnin wrote:Then you stick to your own corp/alliance and don't join others that have power over you, because it will almost always end the same way when things turn bad.. The main corps will always try to steal the good pilots & FCs away from you. stop being in horrible alliances? Isn't there a topic just 1 or 2 posts apart from this one with those Black Mark guys complaining that you CFC guys just poached half their corps.. No it was a thread where many Black Mark ex pilots posted that they left on their own, once they realized that the alliance was on a downward spiral.
But their leadership says otherwise!
After all, a leader accused of being kicked for lying to his alliance would SURELY tell us the truth on COAD, amiritegaiz? |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
35
|
Posted - 2012.05.19 03:20:00 -
[59] - Quote
Mutnin wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Mutnin wrote:Then you stick to your own corp/alliance and don't join others that have power over you, because it will almost always end the same way when things turn bad.. The main corps will always try to steal the good pilots & FCs away from you. stop being in horrible alliances? Isn't there a topic just 1 or 2 posts apart from this one with those Black Mark guys complaining that you CFC guys just poached half their corps..
Nope. |
Heimdallofasgard
T.O.R.
161
|
Posted - 2012.05.19 09:58:00 -
[60] - Quote
Metal Icarus wrote:-A- scamming ex-CFC alliance?
My faith in humanity was restored by just a little bit.
Speaking of terrible alliances and look who decided to show up...
Rookie... Freaking... Empire...
Kick Heim. |
Smabs
Higher Than Everest
BricK sQuAD.
48
|
Posted - 2012.05.19 23:45:00 -
[61] - Quote
If only you'd stuck with us you would now own the worst possible constellation in the game and would've defeated powerhouse alliances like United Pod Service and Pinked!
But really I'm sure there's two sides to this story. |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core
Fatal Ascension
24
|
Posted - 2012.05.20 00:20:00 -
[62] - Quote
Smabs wrote:If only you'd stuck with us you would now own the worst possible constellation in the game and would've defeated powerhouse alliances like United Pod Service and Pinked!
But really I'm sure there's two sides to this story.
Wait, really?
Brick is with AAA now?
Sorry AAA, you guys are screwed. These guys are so bad even riverini jumped ship. |
Smabs
Higher Than Everest
BricK sQuAD.
48
|
Posted - 2012.05.20 03:23:00 -
[63] - Quote
No, we're pretty much doing our own thing with a few smaller blues.
Thorn left us in January to join init, then they joined en garde. And now I guess they left en garde. |
praying mantis01
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.20 18:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
Remember that time a 1month old character made an article on eve forums pretending he knew what was going on. oh wait |
praying mantis01
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.20 19:02:00 -
[65] - Quote
also no money was given to alphastar. I lolled at tht part |
Max50
Parental Control
10
|
Posted - 2012.05.20 21:30:00 -
[66] - Quote
oh my,i guess my dream of joining AAA,flying oracles and evacing 3 regions from a fight will never come trrue after all i heard here |
Shaniqua Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.20 22:28:00 -
[67] - Quote
ouch even H31145 is laughing at AAA that must be getting painful, that's like having TIMMAY call you a tard |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
288
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 03:18:00 -
[68] - Quote
Smabs wrote:No, we're pretty much doing our own thing with a few smaller blues.
Thorn left us in January to join init, then they joined en garde. And now I guess they left en garde.
We had a great time in INIT. The issue was a dead US TZ. THORN pretty much WAS the US TZ, with the exception of a few guys from SHIVA, a couple of guys from 23-7 and 1 guy from VANIS. We participated in most of the EU TZ ops, often having more members in fleet than the EU corps. We led the killboards consistently being in the top 5 for both INIT and Initiative Mercenaries for our 5 months there. If you didn't count POS modules kills, THORN was #1 in the INIT family all 5 months. SHIVA and 23-7 left, leaving us alone in the US TZ. In the end, it was the lack of US TZ activity that made us seek other avenues. We left INIT on good terms.
Our joining En Garde was a horrible, horrible mistake that should never have happened. I think this is a perfect example of one of those "too good to be true" situations. Lesson learned.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion
Test Alliance Please Ignore
114
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 07:19:00 -
[69] - Quote
this just in, -A- is terrible. Time to move on to bigger and better things.. |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 08:13:00 -
[70] - Quote
you sell scripts for over 350k a unite get told off and start emo raging this is the best popcorn fun i have had in a year |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
410
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 09:38:00 -
[71] - Quote
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:this just in, -A- is terrible. Time to move on to bigger and better things..
they burned all of their bridges
it's back to hisec i guess
eh |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers
Ignore This.
41
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 11:26:00 -
[72] - Quote
Haha its good to hear what goes on. So -A- poached alpha? To be honest alpha was a good fc when we flew with you guys. Only problem is his balls still havent dropped and he has to go bed very early :P
Ignore This.-á "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers
Ignore This.
41
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 11:28:00 -
[73] - Quote
Crunchmeister wrote:Smabs wrote:No, we're pretty much doing our own thing with a few smaller blues.
Thorn left us in January to join init, then they joined en garde. And now I guess they left en garde. We had a great time in INIT. The issue was a dead US TZ. THORN pretty much WAS the US TZ, with the exception of a few guys from SHIVA, a couple of guys from 23-7 and 1 guy from VANIS. We participated in most of the EU TZ ops, often having more members in fleet than the EU corps. We led the killboards consistently being in the top 5 for both INIT and Initiative Mercenaries for our 5 months there. If you didn't count POS modules kills, THORN was #1 in the INIT family all 5 months. SHIVA and 23-7 left, leaving us alone in the US TZ. In the end, it was the lack of US TZ activity that made us seek other avenues. We left INIT on good terms. Our joining En Garde was a horrible, horrible mistake that should never have happened. I think this is a perfect example of one of those "too good to be true" situations. Lesson learned.
Yea man it was the same with us. Init were great , very focused alliance but they are an EU outfit.
Ignore This.-á "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 11:48:00 -
[74] - Quote
Quote:[16:22:20] nairu krop > why are my members being banned on comms for selling **** on the market
...
[16:35:16] Harlequin D'Earth > nairu - because your member told maka to ******* do logistics himself after maka had a go at him for selling scripts at a stupid mark up price
[16:35:16] CommandoJon > lol, yeah, phoe-netics spell it like it talks
[16:35:36] Harlequin D'Earth > and if you read engre fleet you can see ive already mentioned it for you
[16:35:55] Lahari > uh oh. maka probably didn't like that lol
[16:36:00] Harlequin D'Earth > no
[16:36:13] Harlequin D'Earth > hence being chewed out in public in front of 80 odd people
[16:36:22] Harlequin D'Earth > and then banned when he mailed back
[16:36:24] nairu krop > right, so the dude was bitching about 250k scripts
[16:36:28] CommandoJon > yeah, if you can banned from -A- Comms that's a whole nother issue
[16:36:35] Harlequin D'Earth > the dude is like teh main fc of -a-
[16:36:42] CommandoJon > 250k? omg.... what a jerk
[16:36:45] nairu krop > the dude is a child
[16:36:52] Harlequin D'Earth > omg
[16:36:54] Harlequin D'Earth > seriously?
[16:36:56] Lord Makk > Well, thats a serious markup isnt it
[16:36:56] Lahari > telling maka to **** off is like trying to beat a lion with a beef stick
[16:37:09] nairu krop > have you never been in a fleet with him?
[16:37:17] Harlequin D'Earth > rofl
[16:37:21] Harlequin D'Earth > er
[16:37:26] Harlequin D'Earth > sry thats funny
[16:37:26] nairu krop > all he does is *****
[16:37:28] Lahari > some of the best fights i've had have been in his fleets
[16:37:31] Lord Makk > Duly warned we all were, making serious isk on your friends isn't forgiveable, no matter the puny incident
[16:37:33] Harlequin D'Earth > this is maka right?
[16:37:41] Lord Makk > The scripts cost like 6k, 250k os a serious markup
[16:37:42] Harlequin D'Earth > you really don't know much about the politics of -a- yet do you?
[16:37:48] CommandoJon > yeah, your lucky that guy only got kicked from comms, i've seen maka kick corps for that stuff
[16:37:50] Harlequin D'Earth > maybe go away and learn a bit
[16:38:06] nairu krop > i know that this maka guy acts like a internet hero
[16:38:12] nairu krop > when all he is is just a rage child
[16:38:13] Harlequin D'Earth > ...
[16:38:13] Lahari > well here is the thing
[16:38:16] Harlequin D'Earth > lmfao
[16:38:17] Lahari > your avoiding the issue
[16:38:18] nairu krop > who berates his fleet members
[16:38:19] Harlequin D'Earth > this is hillarious
[16:38:28] Lord Makk > Well, here is the situation :
[16:38:31] Lord Makk > he is a internet hero
[16:38:32] Lord Makk > discussion over
[16:38:33] Lahari > and thats your dude was marking up **** way over price
[16:38:34] Lord Makk > Questions ?
[16:38:48] Lahari > maka has earned his right to call out asshats
[16:38:50] nairu krop > mor elike internet douchebag
[16:38:54] nairu krop > who welps fleets daily
[16:38:59] Harlequin D'Earth > erm
[16:39:06] nairu krop > DAILY
[16:39:08] Lahari > see now your just talking out your ass
[16:39:10] Harlequin D'Earth > you really are a bit clueless
[16:39:11] Lord Makk > Ok, please compare yourself to the top FC of -a-
[16:39:16] Lord Makk > And let us laugh tonight
[16:39:18] Lord Makk > Go on, spare nothing
[16:39:19] Lord Makk > We await
[16:39:22] Lord Makk > your epicness
[16:39:23] nairu krop > i am not comparing myself to anyone
[16:39:39] Ze'p Maximus > let me get popcorn
[16:39:42] nairu krop > i am merely stating the facts presented in his fleets
[16:39:42] Ze'p Maximus > stand by
n++ |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 11:48:00 -
[75] - Quote
Quote:n++[ 2012.05.12 16:39:49 ] Lahari > just misdirecting **** toward maka when its your dude thats marking up **** like that
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:39:52 ] Lord Makk > How can you not see that buying something for 6k, selling it for 250 is scamming the shite out of your allies ?
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:20 ] nairu krop > eve is a free market, if you want to complain about someone putting effort out to seed you staging system
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:27 ] Ze'p Maximus > if you want a rip ppl go do it else where
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:30 ] nairu krop > he was not buying from system and relisting
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:44 ] Lahari > nice excuse
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:45 ] nairu krop > he was using his own means to move **** from jita to system
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:50 ] nairu krop > with no help from anyone else
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:50 ] Lord Makk > Yeah, eve is a free market, however do you defend ripping your mates off ?
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:40:56 ] Lahari > oh god
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:04 ] Lahari > free to rip off your allies?
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:07 ] nairu krop > right, if people dont like it, they can put the effort in to seed themselves
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:13 ] nairu krop > he was not buying low orders
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:14 ] Lord Makk > Oh they will
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:20 ] nairu krop > he set a price sceiling
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:21 ] Lahari > yeah, it will happen
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:36 ] Lahari > once im done over here, i think ill take a crack at it
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:43 ] nairu krop > establishing a free market price ceiling, based on supply and demand, is not wrong
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:41:47 ] Lahari > kinda tired of market divas
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:02 ] Ze'p Maximus > can i came and kill you?
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:08 ] nairu krop > price ceiling are made to encourage more people to seed
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:18 ] nairu krop > the more people that seed, the lowprices get
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:23 ] Lord Makk > Creative excuse here
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:29 ] Lord Makk > I think we have a philosophic evening ahead of us
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:31 ] nairu krop > it isnt creative, its fact
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:35 ] Lahari > no, its intended to take advantage of an immediate need at an inflated profit
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:42:49 ] Lord Makk > Seed the market in Misaba, CVA can use some scammin'
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:04 ] Lahari > you don't manupulate markets for your allies
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:14 ] nairu krop > he didnt manipulate the market
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:19 ] nairu krop > he imported from jita
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:23 ] nairu krop > and set a market ceiling
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:26 ] Lahari > yeah wow, impresseve
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:29 ] Lord Makk > And sold it at 4000% over cost
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:33 ] nairu krop > he did not buyout local prices
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:36 ] Lahari > he flew a few jumps in empire
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:38 ] Lahari > wow
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:41 ] nairu krop > right
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:43 ] nairu krop > did you do it?>
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:45 ] nairu krop > no
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:46 ] Lord Makk > Anyone can redfrog these days
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:50 ] Lahari > yeah i did
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:53 ] nairu krop > do you have motivation to do it now?
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:43:55 ] nairu krop > yes
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:02 ] CommandoJon > ok, not constructive but, what are you guys still doing here? i mean it seems you exist to cause drama, **** our market and whine about everything, or it just you? your corp has kills just cut back the drama
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:03 ] Lord Makk > wtf do you know? maybe I have an market alt with 350 orders up ?
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:04 ] nairu krop > its the free market
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:29 ] Lahari > not a team player
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:30 ] Lord Makk > Free markettoscamurfriends with
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:46 ] nairu krop > oh i am a team player
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:44:55 ] Lahari > yeah, but your not on the right team
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:01 ] Ze'p Maximus > if you dont understun a fack your scamming your alliance mates get out of alliance pls
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:36 ] Harlequin D'Earth > no leave it, don't emo on him - i want to wait for maka to do it :p
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:46 ] Lahari > lol
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:46 ] Lord Makk > ccc
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:52 ] Ze'p Maximus > \o/
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:56 ] Lahari > oh and he will
n++[ 2012.05.12 16:45:58 ] nairu krop > bring maka on, i will crush his ******* sole
have a nice day |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
84
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 13:16:00 -
[76] - Quote
Scripts are STILL selling at 250k as AAA never bothered to do the logistics themselves, and they are STILL the cheapest in system.
The 250k ones were listed as all cheaper ones were being bought up by the alt of one of the FCs and immediately relisted at 1million ISK. He got mad cos he wasn't making any profit of his whelped fleets any more as he was being undercut by THORN Logistics.
And really the point of that wall of text is 'why is banning a logistics pilot from comms a suitable way to deal with the lack of logistics AAA is willing to do?' Way to go, you just reduced your fleet composition by up to 2, and pissed off a 100 man corp in the process. /me Golfclaps
For the record Makalakkaloo; the professional way to deal with somone you believe is selling things higher than you would like them to be sold for; is to approach his corp leadership.
The best thing to do tho, is HTFU or learn to do logistics yourself if 200k makes all the difference to you.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Evanga
Trust Doesn't Rust
En Garde
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 14:00:00 -
[77] - Quote
Can i FINALLY shoot your neutral cyno alts now?
--> <-- |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
196
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 17:19:00 -
[78] - Quote
Too much fun guys, just too much.
fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut. |
Evanga
Trust Doesn't Rust
En Garde
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 19:43:00 -
[79] - Quote
Indeterminacy wrote:Too much fun guys, just too much.
fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut.
u want a hug? |
low26
Politically Incorrect
Brushie Brushie Brushie
39
|
Posted - 2012.05.21 20:01:00 -
[80] - Quote
Screw em Lucian, Come chill in Curse for a while. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
197
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 02:48:00 -
[81] - Quote
Dirty scammers, play honourably or don't play at all.
. |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
40
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 04:08:00 -
[82] - Quote
How does one join AAA anyway? I want to make mountains of money selling loads of cheap **** at 50x markup because goddamn. It is like some sort of scamming wonderland over there apparently. |
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
Red Alliance
13
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 06:27:00 -
[83] - Quote
We love Thorn and Bricksquad. I was just talking to Darius III and also Choas just yesterday. Good times then. We all should get together soon and pay some guys a visit. Feels like its getting time to set the war machine on fire :)
Fly safe brothers.
Chaos Overdrive wrote:Horath Blackguts wrote:Xolani1990 wrote:Let me get this straight.
They poached alphastarpilot because they wanted him as an FC?
Ahahahahaha You may be surprised. He's not the same kid who lead those absolutely awful gate camps of EC- back in the old NC days. He has grown up a lot and is a decent and competent FC. Furthermore, he doesn't emo rage at his fleetmembers for his own bad calls and mistakes like -A- FCs do. I have no problems joining his fleets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3jQA4-zLOk The video is a bit old and moldy, but this was last September. First part of the video displays Alphastarpilot's dominance over the feeble Test Alliance. "They're suiciding into us."
<-áI believe he is right > Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
|
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
290
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 13:34:00 -
[84] - Quote
Lucian James wrote:We're just here for pew, social fun and teamwork. Plenty of grunts out there understand this, but seems a lot of leadership would rather hoard imaginary isk and pixels than put them to use.
Right here. That's the reason I fly with these crazy bastards in THORN. We take things seriously enough that we want to be good at what we do (and we are), but not seriously enough to suck the fun out of it. Finding that balance between fun and being serious is the key.
I think you're completely right here Lucian. At the "grunt" level, regardless of the corp or alliance, this is well understood. But often leadership - particularly of large alliances / coalitions - forget this. It becomes about being "space rich" (often on the backs of members) and the imaginary sense of power that they've attained in game. I can't honestly see how this is enjoyable for anyone.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
454
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:01:00 -
[85] - Quote
Evanga wrote:Indeterminacy wrote:Too much fun guys, just too much.
fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut. u want a hug?
I would like a hug.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
229
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:07:00 -
[86] - Quote
Lykouleon wrote:Evanga wrote:Indeterminacy wrote:Too much fun guys, just too much.
fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut. u want a hug? I would like a hug.
I, too, would like a hug. |
Eskalin
Evolution
IT Alliance
43
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:30:00 -
[87] - Quote
cBOLTSON wrote:Crunchmeister wrote:Smabs wrote:No, we're pretty much doing our own thing with a few smaller blues.
Thorn left us in January to join init, then they joined en garde. And now I guess they left en garde. We had a great time in INIT. The issue was a dead US TZ. THORN pretty much WAS the US TZ, with the exception of a few guys from SHIVA, a couple of guys from 23-7 and 1 guy from VANIS. We participated in most of the EU TZ ops, often having more members in fleet than the EU corps. We led the killboards consistently being in the top 5 for both INIT and Initiative Mercenaries for our 5 months there. If you didn't count POS modules kills, THORN was #1 in the INIT family all 5 months. SHIVA and 23-7 left, leaving us alone in the US TZ. In the end, it was the lack of US TZ activity that made us seek other avenues. We left INIT on good terms. Our joining En Garde was a horrible, horrible mistake that should never have happened. I think this is a perfect example of one of those "too good to be true" situations. Lesson learned. Yea man it was the same with us. Init were great , very focused alliance but they are an EU outfit.
+1 for evolution on this. too bad we all weren't in INIT. at the same time we would have had a ustz =)
VoV Robster Craws |
Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
229
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:44:00 -
[88] - Quote
Lucian James wrote:Alphastarpilot is without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-support FCs in game.. why else would MV poach him?
#1-4 are Vee, Vily, Laz and DaBigRedBoat |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
180
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:56:00 -
[89] - Quote
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf wrote:
Considering we already have offers to join -A- blues who agree wholeheartedly with our assessment of -A-, I'd say this FC is overestimating both his influence and importance.
Why do people in the region put up with this? |
Din'stalor Alaric
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
78
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:56:00 -
[90] - Quote
Crunchmeister wrote:Lucian James wrote:We're just here for pew, social fun and teamwork. Plenty of grunts out there understand this, but seems a lot of leadership would rather hoard imaginary isk and pixels than put them to use. Right here. That's the reason I fly with these crazy bastards in THORN. We take things seriously enough that we want to be good at what we do (and we are), but not seriously enough to suck the fun out of it. Finding that balance between fun and being serious is the key. I think you're completely right here Lucian. At the "grunt" level, regardless of the corp or alliance, this is well understood. But often leadership - particularly of large alliances / coalitions - forget this. It becomes about being "space rich" (often on the backs of members) and the imaginary sense of power that they've attained in game. I can't honestly see how this is enjoyable for anyone.
I highlighted the part which doesn't apply to me, since i am the worst solo pvp pilot in game. I mean, even on our EPIC bombing run to kill makakakalaka laa laa, where i was frappings and bombing, i still managed to die!
Also contains great comms of a eve chick raging at me for recording, and she called our beloved leader Lucian a scrub.
Heres a link for you all to admire the epicness of makas podding and munnin loss, as well as my epicness of fail.
Emo Chick and Epic Bomb
Solo 4 Life.1v1 always honored, flying without booster alt since Oct 2010.No ransoms honored even if offered :) |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
86
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:59:00 -
[91] - Quote
Hratli Smirks wrote:Lykouleon wrote:Evanga wrote:Indeterminacy wrote:Too much fun guys, just too much.
fake edit: be sure to read those chat logs. I mean, for a guy who claims to have "100B ISK" to be so upset about 250k isk I can only assume it was, in fact, his own neutral alt being undercut. u want a hug? I would like a hug. I, too, would like a hug.
Thorn is currently selling hugs. Only 250k ISK (best price in market, you want a cheaper hug? Seed them yourself you lazy bugger!)
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
298
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:29:00 -
[92] - Quote
Din'stalor Alaric wrote: she called our beloved leader Lucian a scrub.
Actually, she was referring to En Garde in general, not Lucian. Not sure where you got that idea.
She said "It doesn't matter, it's En Garde... ...they're a bunch of f*cking scrubs and they all need to go."
This type of crap was thrown towards En Garde all the time by -A- members. Her comment was quite tame compared to some of the stuff we'd hear on comms. But this was the status quo. FCs seemed to rage and **** on everyone most of the time, but they hold a special, spiteful venom for En Garde. -A- membership in general just shat on En Garde every chance they get. And this is the exclusive club that En Garde get to pay to be a part of.
PS. Don't call them renters...
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
ChaeDoc II
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Fatal Ascension
52
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:08:00 -
[93] - Quote
Crunchmeister wrote:... After witnessing one senior FC welp into FA 3 times in one afternoon (seriously - FA!!! wtf?!?!?) ...
Hey! lol.
Low blow! |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
302
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 13:50:00 -
[94] - Quote
ChaeDoc II wrote:Crunchmeister wrote:... After witnessing one senior FC welp into FA 3 times in one afternoon (seriously - FA!!! wtf?!?!?) ... Hey! lol. Low blow!
Ok, maybe just a bit. I'll give credit where it's due. I've enjoyed fighting you guys more than any other CFC entity - not because I dislike you, but because you put up the best fight without waiting to have 3:1 numbers before engaging.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Partsking
Ardent Spirits
Initiative Mercenaries
15
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 16:41:00 -
[95] - Quote
Sorry to hear about your troubles, Thorn bros. We miss ya!
-A- being **** was confirmed for me when I found out UK was made to spend 2 bill a month for standings when we were fighting for -A- in Omist/surround months ago. I lol'd. |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
202
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 18:34:00 -
[96] - Quote
Partsking wrote:Sorry to hear about your troubles, Thorn bros. We miss ya!
-A- being **** was confirmed for me when I found out UK was made to spend 2 bill a month for standings when we were fighting for -A- in Omist/surround months ago. I lol'd.
Hi to the Init Family! We miss you too (special shoutout to Poll amirite?) |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
456
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 20:29:00 -
[97] - Quote
Muul Udonii wrote:Thorn is currently selling hugs. Only 250k ISK (best price in market, you want a cheaper hug? Seed them yourself you lazy bugger!)
Outrageous! I can get a hug and a reach-around from En Garde for 10k!
No wonder you all didn't fit in.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core
Fatal Ascension
42
|
Posted - 2012.05.24 06:36:00 -
[98] - Quote
Crunchmeister wrote:ChaeDoc II wrote:Crunchmeister wrote:... After witnessing one senior FC welp into FA 3 times in one afternoon (seriously - FA!!! wtf?!?!?) ... Hey! lol. Low blow! Ok, maybe just a bit. I'll give credit where it's due. I've enjoyed fighting you guys more than any other CFC entity - not because I dislike you, but because you put up the best fight without waiting to have 3:1 numbers before engaging.
As an alliance, we like to fight, and are rich enough to welp a dreadfleet and laugh about it.
v0v What more do you really need to have fun? |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power.
Cascade Imminent
970
|
Posted - 2012.05.24 08:49:00 -
[99] - Quote
Verte Sinkon wrote:How does one join AAA anyway? I want to make mountains of money selling loads of cheap **** at 50x markup because goddamn. It is like some sort of scamming wonderland over there apparently.
Welcome to da south
okay what you need to do is buy some T1 bpos and have like 1.5m sp in trade skills
most southern alliances have mandatory caps on market profit so nobody bothers to seed anything except for maybe 1-2 guys with jump freighters who do it for some weird reason or another, and of course the Legendary -A- Market Jews of Stain
but since these laws are poorly enforced, just set whatever price you want anyway lol
okay now you have some money in da bank, be sure to set buy orders for minerals so you can keep producing t3 oracles and frigates. don't worry about this bitin in2 ur profits because usually the going buy rate is 50% of jita cost
sometimes though the rules are enforced when some random director notices by chance like what happened to this THORN guy so just take the order off and act like you're sorry then quietly put the order back up like 2 days later
at dis point you should be rolling in fat skrilla money bank and now you can afford to pvp, best of luck playa
man money sucked when I lived in the north |
JinSanJong
Comply Or Die
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.24 14:12:00 -
[100] - Quote
OK one thing about Maka is at least he gets out there and FCs like a MOFO.
But yes sometimes he just leeroys and hasnt a clue wtf he is doing. Remember the drake army gangs against PL he just kept on using the same fleets and dying horribly, and then in the middle of the fleet decided it was time to go and then just log off, with people just left there.. He has welped many many fleets badly and THINKS hes a uber FC
but ill say it again at least he gets out there and FCs which alot of people dont.
as for -A- they are now a powerbloc again so they are acting like one! typical overload BS. Until someone comes along and kicks them off thier pedestal just like any other alliance. |
lord xavier
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
16
|
Posted - 2012.05.24 16:05:00 -
[101] - Quote
 Jesus christ. Why can't I get a hug D8< |
Emir Khan
Born-2-Kill
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.24 17:47:00 -
[102] - Quote
TLDR
Whine about limited carebear space
Whine about ship replacements as you cant make isk yourself.
7/10 thread |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
92
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 00:13:00 -
[103] - Quote
Emir Khan wrote:TLDR
Whine about limited carebear space
Whine about ship replacements as you cant make isk yourself.
7/10 thread
Whine about being **** on because we CAN make ISK ourselves.
Whine about lies
Whine about backstabbings
9/10 thread. Could do with more AAA members breaking their alliances rules and making an ass out of themselves.
In other news, Thorn hugs are still on sale, 100k as someone is playing market bots with me; and Thorn vs Goourn Jita grief war proven valid tactic. For more info contact the GM who replaced our stuff, removed standings hit and made us all wee just a little bit laughing at Goons.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
92
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 00:19:00 -
[104] - Quote
JinSanJong wrote:OK one thing about Maka is at least he gets out there and FCs like a MOFO.
But yes sometimes he just leeroys and hasnt a clue wtf he is doing. Remember the drake army gangs against PL he just kept on using the same fleets and dying horribly, and then in the middle of the fleet decided it was time to go and then just log off, with people just left there.. He has welped many many fleets badly and THINKS hes a uber FC
but ill say it again at least he gets out there and FCs which alot of people dont.
as for -A- they are now a powerbloc again so they are acting like one! typical overload BS. Until someone comes along and kicks them off thier pedestal just like any other alliance.
I bet Makekekeke was selling Drakes back then....
The stupid thing is; his punishment for the slight of being overcharged 200k isk for not wanting to fly 10 jumps himself, was to ban an FC from comms, actually reducing the number of people able and willing to take out fleets; then infuriates a corp with a further 4 qualified FCs who subsequently leave the alliance.
Yeah, this guy really KNOWS how to lead.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
lanyaie
292
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 09:45:00 -
[105] - Quote
Ship reimbursement makes people weak
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
ED FAT
Intergalactic Syndicate
Nulli Secunda
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 11:42:00 -
[106] - Quote
If your members are so easily to be poached, it says a lot about your own corp than anyone else.
and ok i didn't read all of this thread. I have a life. but why did you let back Alphastarpilot after he left your corp. |
JinSanJong
Comply Or Die
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 13:34:00 -
[107] - Quote
Muul Udonii wrote:JinSanJong wrote:OK one thing about Maka is at least he gets out there and FCs like a MOFO.
But yes sometimes he just leeroys and hasnt a clue wtf he is doing. Remember the drake army gangs against PL he just kept on using the same fleets and dying horribly, and then in the middle of the fleet decided it was time to go and then just log off, with people just left there.. He has welped many many fleets badly and THINKS hes a uber FC
but ill say it again at least he gets out there and FCs which alot of people dont.
as for -A- they are now a powerbloc again so they are acting like one! typical overload BS. Until someone comes along and kicks them off thier pedestal just like any other alliance. I bet Makekekeke was selling Drakes back then.... The stupid thing is; his punishment for the slight of being overcharged 200k isk for not wanting to fly 10 jumps himself, was to ban an FC from comms, actually reducing the number of people able and willing to take out fleets; then infuriates a corp with a further 4 qualified FCs who subsequently leave the alliance. Yeah, this guy really KNOWS how to lead.
Again is that typical 'leet' overlord attitude... There are many like them in Eve...Many! I remember SuperTwinkey69 in Tri, what an absolute tw@t this guy was, the amout of abuse he gave people would of got him a kicking in real life. but he did FC alot opf fleets and 90% of the time was pretty decent, and yes he whelped fleets too.... but again he has the balls to go out and manage those large fights, alot of players just dont have the bottle.
At one point Tri without SUperTwinkey was not an option and I think -A- without Maka is also not an option, as they would just crumble.
But yes I dont think FCs have to be complete d1cks to FC well. And yes a 200k uplift and moaniung about it is silly too.
Therein lies the answer, in eve people are probably opposite to waht they are in RL, Maka is probably a shy, lonely boy with no friends and got bullied as a child, now this is his payback! |
Shobon Welp
Band of Brothers
33
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 20:33:00 -
[108] - Quote
-A- is shit, water is wet, pope is Catholic. |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
206
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 20:43:00 -
[109] - Quote
ED FAT wrote:If your members are so easily able to be poached, it says a lot about your own corp than anyone else.
and ok i didn't read all of this thread. I have a life. but why did you let back Alphastarpilot after he left your corp.
Because he's a young guy who was enticed by lies beyond what was told to our corp prior to joining. We happily forgave his mistake recognizing that we all make them....especially when we were 14.
Seems legit to me. |
lanyaie
293
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 22:30:00 -
[110] - Quote
Indeterminacy wrote:lanyaie wrote:Ship reimbursement makes people weak Look out guys, we gotta real bad ass over here. No, they don't. They increase the time people can spend PVPing, decrease the time they have to spend PVEing, and make them feel generally appreciated.
Erhmm I don't PVE but yet I make money on my own without interrupting pvp fun..so that argument is invalid.
Just like this thread
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion
Test Alliance Please Ignore
135
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 23:26:00 -
[111] - Quote
lanyaie wrote:I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
ED FAT
Intergalactic Syndicate
Nulli Secunda
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 00:18:00 -
[112] - Quote
fair point to my question
here is just a view i have, since you clearly made this thread to gain some attention.
for you guys to come on here and complain about this as a corp, kinda gives you a bad reputation and frankly alliance hoppers, who will leave as soon as a better deal comes around the corner.
you were screwed over this time but its what you get when you hop hop hop to every alliance that promises you a blowy. |
lanyaie
294
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 08:36:00 -
[113] - Quote
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:lanyaie wrote:I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you
We have a smart testie in the house guys!
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
Achilla
High Flyers
RED.OverLord
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 20:17:00 -
[114] - Quote
Shobon Welp wrote:-A- is shit, water is wet, pope is Catholic.
-ö-+-¦-Ç-+ -+-+-¦-¦-+-+-¦-¦-é-î -¦ -á-+-ü-ü-+-Ä |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
94
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 13:26:00 -
[115] - Quote
lanyaie wrote:Daneirkus Auralex wrote:lanyaie wrote:I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you We have a smart testie in the house guys!
Obvious spy is obvious! ;)
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
306
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 15:16:00 -
[116] - Quote
ED FAT wrote:you were screwed over this time but its what you get when you hop hop hop to every alliance that promises you a blowy.
Alliance hoppers suggests we switch often on a whim. We don't. We were in Brick Squad for 6 solid months, before a major change in alliance direction and philosophy resulted in about 1/2 the corps leaving. We were one of the leaving corps because the new direction just wasn't what we wanted as a corp.
Most of the corps leaving BR1CK went to Initiative Mercenaries. We stuck it out there for 5 awesome months, but the lack of US TZ activity, particularly in the last couple of months as the other US TZ corps were leaving for more active alliances, left us a rather lonely bunch flying solo as THORN Syndicate during US TZ. We loved IM / INIT, but they just weren't active enough to keep us properly employed in our time zone, hence our departure.
En Garde wasn't something anyone, including most of our leadership, was too keen on. But we got sold a bill of goods by a silver-tongued snake oil salesman to entice us. We agreed internally as a corp to give En Garde a try for 30 days. It became obvious within a week that things were not as they were sold to us - not even close. And the other issues started developing, prompting our exit after only 10 days.
I don't know, but I see corps that hop alliances every couple of months or will bail on their alliance the second the going looks like it's getting tough. THORN Syndicate is neither. We're a very dedicated, very active corp, and very capable corp. We need to be somewhere that we can keep our people actively doing what they do best - blowing **** up.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Prop Wash
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
38
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 15:47:00 -
[117] - Quote
Yo dude, nobody cares about your corp, chill.
All the best,
Prop Wash |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1013
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 18:49:00 -
[118] - Quote
I think A should be disgusted as recruitment scamming is the lowest of the low |
Selpy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
48
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 19:32:00 -
[119] - Quote
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:I think A should be disgusted as recruitment scamming is the lowest of the low
you give them far too much credit by calling it a recruitment scam. at least goons know how to do that right.
no, this was just regular recruitment for en garde. This is how they "grow" their alliance.
|
Evanga
Trust Doesn't Rust
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.29 21:41:00 -
[120] - Quote
this is an outrage!
Why are you allowed to even make threads on the internets! |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
213
|
Posted - 2012.05.29 22:17:00 -
[121] - Quote
Prop Wash wrote:Yo dude, nobody cares about your corp, chill.
All the best,
Prop Wash
And yet he [unironically] posts. |
Chaos Overdrive
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
14
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 01:34:00 -
[122] - Quote
Indeterminacy wrote:Prop Wash wrote:Yo dude, nobody cares about your corp, chill.
All the best,
Prop Wash And yet he [unironically] posts.
THORN Alliance is still irrelevant. c/d? |
Evanga
Trust Doesn't Rust
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 06:12:00 -
[123] - Quote
you guys have any fc's left i can recruit? |
Prop Wash
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
40
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 06:15:00 -
[124] - Quote
Indeterminacy wrote:Prop Wash wrote:Yo dude, nobody cares about your corp, chill.
All the best,
Prop Wash And yet he [unironically] posts.
Look dude, I was only trying to help you out. You were posting a whole lot of angry words about some uninteresting stuff and getting kind of worked up about it, so I tried to put things into perspective. Lashing out at me won't change that, so maybe you should just calm down. I hope we can talk again once you're ready to approach this rationally.
All the best,
Prop Wash |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
213
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:03:00 -
[125] - Quote
Prop Wash wrote:Indeterminacy wrote:Prop Wash wrote:Yo dude, nobody cares about your corp, chill.
All the best,
Prop Wash And yet he [unironically] posts. Look dude, I was only trying to help you out. You were posting a whole lot of angry words about some uninteresting stuff and getting kind of worked up about it, so I tried to put things into perspective. Lashing out at me won't change that, so maybe you should just calm down. I hope we can talk again once you're ready to approach this rationally. All the best, Prop Wash
Yes, we are all angry as ****. I mean, my title in game is literally space mad. I can barely contain my rage and fury long enough to type :words: and everyone else in corp is more or less just as angry.
We're not having any fun at all. None. What. So. Ever. |
Captain Woo
BLOOM.
Bloomswarm
6
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 21:33:00 -
[126] - Quote
hihi I like Lucian James 
Sincerely,
Captain Gigglepants
I'm so bad at this eve.-á
Also PL spy |
Horath Blackguts
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
34
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:06:00 -
[127] - Quote
Prop Wash wrote:Indeterminacy wrote:Prop Wash wrote:Yo dude, nobody cares about your corp, chill.
All the best,
Prop Wash And yet he [unironically] posts. Look dude, I was only trying to help you out. You were posting a whole lot of angry words about some uninteresting stuff and getting kind of worked up about it, so I tried to put things into perspective. Lashing out at me won't change that, so maybe you should just calm down. I hope we can talk again once you're ready to approach this rationally. All the best, Prop Wash
Unsolicited advice is a symptom of narcissism. It really isn't healthy for you. |
Ivan Ward
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
70
|
Posted - 2012.06.02 00:21:00 -
[128] - Quote
Against ALL Atthoriites and you'd think they have honor and rules?
"Hot pilots we have problems too, we're just like you." |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1060
|
Posted - 2012.06.02 14:12:00 -
[129] - Quote
Who the hell would want to join -A- |
Commit Sudoku
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
43
|
Posted - 2012.06.02 15:27:00 -
[130] - Quote
people who fall for recruitment scams |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
106
|
Posted - 2012.06.11 13:49:00 -
[131] - Quote
We hadn't flown with them before; but we had flown with their leader, and foolishly trusted him.
After we quit apparently -A- approached one of our US TZ friends and tried to offer them the same lies they'd offered us. Understandably they got their faces well and truly laughed in.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
314
|
Posted - 2012.06.12 14:30:00 -
[132] - Quote
Not surprisingly, En Garde are shedding members. They've lost 6 corps and 300+ people since we left (not including ourselves), albeit one of the corps (75 members) was brought into -A-. So much for En Garde not being a feeder alliance anymore. So to you guys who are all proud of being in En Garde and think you're great, you're not. You're in En Garde because you're "not good enough" to be in -A- proper. En Garde as an alliance will always be **** with low quality corps and players, because any corp that's worth anything will be brought into -A-, and any good FCs will be poached form their En Garde corps and brought into one of the main -A- corps. En Garde is equivalent of the settling pond of the sewage treatment plant.
And I laughed when I found out our friends had been offered the exact "deal" we'd been offered to join. Seems like -A- have a stockpile of snake oil they need to get rid of and are intent on trying to screw over old friends by pawning it off on them. What a great way to maintain long-standing relationships.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
10
|
Posted - 2012.06.12 15:13:00 -
[133] - Quote
Crunchmeister wrote:Not surprisingly, En Garde are shedding members. They've lost 6 corps and 300+ people since we left (not including ourselves), albeit one of the corps (75 members) was brought into -A-. So much for En Garde not being a feeder alliance anymore. So to you guys who are all proud of being in En Garde and think you're great, you're not. You're in En Garde because you're "not good enough" to be in -A- proper. En Garde as an alliance will always be **** with low quality corps and players, because any corp that's worth anything will be brought into -A-, and any good FCs will be poached form their En Garde corps and brought into one of the main -A- corps. En Garde is equivalent of the settling pond of the sewage treatment plant.
And I laughed when I found out our friends had been offered the exact "deal" we'd been offered to join. Seems like -A- have a stockpile of snake oil they need to get rid of and are intent on trying to screw over old friends by pawning it off on them. What a great way to maintain long-standing relationships.
any one who ever said any thing about engard not being a "feeder" alliance (i dont like the term its more of a tryout/recrument alliance for -a- ) is completely wrong and delusional to that effect.
i am quite happy about being in engard, fleet fights with cta reinbursments with out having to do any thing boring sovweise ? awesome!
i am sorry you are so crap you cant make isk on your own and think to just spong isk |
Addel Kwin
Everlasting Forge
En Garde
1
|
Posted - 2012.06.12 15:48:00 -
[134] - Quote
This whole conversation cracks me up.
Call Engarde what you will... its really all about what you are looking for from eve.
For me, Engarde is perfect. I have flown with mega alliances and its fun, but I dont like the level of commitment required. RL happens. I dont like the lack of support for new members either because sometimes I like people for more then their pixelized ability to train skills while AFK. Personally I like developing young players and showing them the wonders of the game... but as a 6 year old toon, I also need a little PVP prowress to keep me coming back. I get all of this here.
I will never find good PVP in a renter alliance. I havent found the opportunity for chillaxed social / developmental interests in power block alliances.
Alliances like engard fit both those needs for me. Its a good fit for players like who have done it all and are at the stage of being more casual about eve. its also good for guys who want to step up to the next level but maybe are not ready. You can find that in any major block (feeder alliances or what have you) and they are all the same in role and function. If you dont like it, its not the right fit for you. Dont hate on the alliance for being what it is, fix your situation and find a more suited home.
Engarde is a great home for some players. Just like -A-, PL, TEST, Goons, Etc., etc. are good homes for players who fit what community they are trying to create. If you dont like what you see, its because it doesnt align with your values in eve.
Otherwise the rest of this is just a case of the wh0re calling her friend a sl(-)t.
Not the most interesting thread I have seen tbh. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
314
|
Posted - 2012.06.12 17:08:00 -
[135] - Quote
Lilan Kahn wrote:any one who ever said any thing about engard not being a "feeder" alliance (i dont like the term its more of a tryout/recrument alliance for -a- ) is completely wrong and delusional to that effect...
...i am sorry you are so crap you cant make isk on your own and think to just spong isk
That's how En Garde was sold to us, and again to our friends. just a couple of weeks back who got the same offer we did. We were all outright told that it was no longer going to be a feeder alliance and was meant to be developed into a real, credible force that can stand on its own rather than having to have -A- hold its hand every step of the way. And there was a thread to that very effect on the En Garde forum when we joined, so you may want to take a look before spouting what you obviously know nothing about.
And BTW, there are no isk issues here. The ability to make it in your useless space wasn't the issue. It's the issue we were outright lied to about what space we had access to in order to get us into the alliance, much like all other details.
Anyway, that must be some mighty fine tasting Kool Aid you guys are drinking. Just keep telling yourselves that it's all good and that you're not being farmed, used, scammed and lied to.
And of course, you're not renters either. You just pay a membership fee for your exclusive club.
Damn, I can't even type that last line without laughing my ass off.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
10
|
Posted - 2012.06.12 17:22:00 -
[136] - Quote
Crunchmeister wrote:Lilan Kahn wrote:any one who ever said any thing about engard not being a "feeder" alliance (i dont like the term its more of a tryout/recrument alliance for -a- ) is completely wrong and delusional to that effect...
...i am sorry you are so crap you cant make isk on your own and think to just spong isk That's how En Garde was sold to us, and again to our friends. just a couple of weeks back who got the same offer we did. We were all outright told that it was no longer going to be a feeder alliance and was meant to be developed into a real, credible force that can stand on its own rather than having to have -A- hold its hand every step of the way. And there was a thread to that very effect on the En Garde forum when we joined, so you may want to take a look before spouting what you obviously know nothing about. And BTW, there are no isk issues here. The ability to make it in your useless space wasn't the issue. It's the issue we were outright lied to about what space we had access to in order to get us into the alliance, much like all other details. Anyway, that must be some mighty fine tasting Kool Aid you guys are drinking. Just keep telling yourselves that it's all good and that you're not being farmed, used, scammed and lied to. And of course, you're not renters either. You just pay a membership fee for your exclusive club. Damn, I can't even type that last line without laughing my ass off.
the 208m we(corp) pay a month is more than paid it self back from the replacement found, a alliance with out any real income gotta raise capital some how to pay for sov ****, so feel free to be butthurt about it.
as for the space being useless i disagree, moon poor maybe.
as for being lied to, farmed and scamed lol.
knew what we went in to when we joined over a year ago, farmed? havn't lost any one to -a- but poaching is a normal part of eve get over it, scammed? havnt gotten scammed yet and doubt its going to happen any time soon.
enjoy your bitter, i donated you 10m to buy a hug from some one. |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
106
|
Posted - 2012.06.13 02:03:00 -
[137] - Quote
Lilan Kahn wrote: havn't lost any one to -a-
Difference is; we actually have pilots worth poaching.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
10
|
Posted - 2012.06.13 02:23:00 -
[138] - Quote
Muul Udonii wrote:Lilan Kahn wrote: havn't lost any one to -a- Difference is; we actually have pilots worth poaching.
diffrence is they want to change corp |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
106
|
Posted - 2012.06.13 11:42:00 -
[139] - Quote
Lilan Kahn wrote:diffrence is they want to change corp
Nah, the FC they poached came back. He didn't think he was doing anything wrong as he's young and hot-headed.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
314
|
Posted - 2012.06.13 15:22:00 -
[140] - Quote
Lilan Kahn wrote:the 208m we(corp) pay a month is more than paid it self back from the replacement found, a alliance with out any real income gotta raise capital some how to pay for sov ****
Real alliances don't need to charge a "membership fee". Renters do. You're renters who have even less rights to their space than AAAC renters do. I really wasn't aware until joining that there was a class of 0.0 alliance below that of renter. Now I know there is.
You can call yourselves whatever you want to make yourself feel better and try to inflate your ego a bit, but a turd by any other name is still a turd, no matter how much you polish it.
Lilan Kahn wrote:as for the space being useless i disagree, moon poor maybe.
And any moons of value in "your" space belongs to -A-. You get nothing. As -A- bitches, you're given nothing of value. You're there as meatshield buffers when in your own space, and used as F1 monkeys to pad fleet numbers when on ops. Yes, you get replacements. That's the least -A- can do since without them, you wouldn't be able to afford to fleet up anyway. And without you, their fleet numbers would actually suck. The least they can do is give you partial reimbursements for some of their fleet doctrine.
But make no mistake. Whatever they "pay out" to you, they make back many times over at your expense selling you overpriced modules and replacement hulls in Catch and in your deployment areas. And they make stupidly high profits on this. And if you undercut their FC's prices on the market, you will draw their wrath. Otherwise, much of -A- leadership and membership alike consider you a useless waste of space and treat you with complete disdain on a daily basis.
Enjoy being serfs, because that's what you are.
Serf (surf), Noun:
1. Vassal, peasant
2. A member of the lowest feudal class, bound to the land and subject to the will of its owner
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
12
|
Posted - 2012.06.14 09:14:00 -
[141] - Quote
you try too hard and limted ship replacement?
yea that's why we have gotten tengues and lokis the last 14 months, when did goons start reimbursing tengues?
oh your right "real" alliances have personal systems you PAY for out of your own pocket i do not personaly see the big difrence to having one corp paying all the bills |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
138
|
Posted - 2012.06.19 01:32:00 -
[142] - Quote
Crunchmeister wrote:Lilan Kahn wrote:the 208m we(corp) pay a month is more than paid it self back from the replacement found, a alliance with out any real income gotta raise capital some how to pay for sov **** Real alliances don't need to charge a "membership fee". Renters do. You're renters who have even less rights to their space than AAAC renters do. I really wasn't aware until joining that there was a class of 0.0 alliance below that of renter. Now I know there is. You can call yourselves whatever you want to make yourself feel better and try to inflate your ego a bit, but a turd by any other name is still a turd, no matter how much you polish it. Lilan Kahn wrote:as for the space being useless i disagree, moon poor maybe. And any moons of value in "your" space belongs to -A-. You get nothing. As -A- bitches, you're given nothing of value. You're there as meatshield buffers when in your own space, and used as F1 monkeys to pad fleet numbers when on ops. Yes, you get replacements. That's the least -A- can do since without them, you wouldn't be able to afford to fleet up anyway. And without you, their fleet numbers would actually suck. The least they can do is give you partial reimbursements for some of their fleet doctrine. But make no mistake. Whatever they "pay out" to you, they make back many times over at your expense selling you overpriced modules and replacement hulls in Catch and in your deployment areas. And they make stupidly high profits on this. And if you undercut their marketeers' prices on the market, you will draw their ire and wrath. Otherwise, much of -A- leadership and membership alike consider you a useless waste of space and treat you with complete disdain on a daily basis. Enjoy being serfs, because that's what you are. Serf (surf), Noun: 1. Vassal, peasant 2. A member of the lowest feudal class, bound to the land and subject to the will of its owner
You are completely full of it.
-First and foremost, -A- Sov is held by the individual corps, this is the reason for you confusion about ratting rights, even for -A- members there are only a few, and En Garde is welcome in all of them, there is ONE system last time I checked that was -A- only and its in bumbfuck Stain of all places, no one uses it.
Yes there are a couple on pipes, and yes, they suck but if you moved south for that ratting you are doing it wrong.
-Secondly, reimbursements are hull only for ALL of -A- this varies only if you are an a FC, a booster or an anchor, the rest of us buy out own mods and subsystems as well. This way, you keep down the amount of stupid **** when mistakes come out of your own wallet. Roaming losses are covered (again) at the corp level, my corp reimburses losses under our FCs ect ect.
-Third the markets are always a mess, Maka sends out three hate mails a mount about people gouging the markets, it happens, if you don't like it, well there are other ways to get stuff, lets just say I don't do much shopping in GE- much of the time. Most of the business in -A- is covered by contracts, the policy is 15% over Jita, to cover fuel costs, it even gets enforced sometimes.
...and lol Maka rage best rage, seriously, yes he rages, a lot. However, usually if its focused at you (which it must have been to garner that much nerd rage) you are screwing up already.
Just like the time, we had to shoot you morons because two roaming fleets hit one gang and you ding bats didn't have your overviews set so you were shooting a blue fleet. This of course was after we asked you in local to stop firing, because we were blue. FCi s like "Oh they are shooting the logi's ...primary primary primary"
...and for reference, NO ONE is given anything of value, even in the main alliance, you earn you way or go somewhere else. Lets face it Catch, Impasse and Tere aren't that valuable, but there are plenty of unclaimed systems around, you could have felt free, as long as you could pay the SOV bills.
...and no En gard aren't renters, we don't expect anything from the renters, they fly by and we don't shoot at them because they are blue that is about it. Pay the bills and do what you want. |
Akaria Cicero
Apex Overplayed Coalition
Fatal Ascension
0
|
Posted - 2012.06.20 17:24:00 -
[143] - Quote
Lucian James wrote:[quote=Chaos Overdrive]
Alphastarpilot is without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-support FCs in game..
I have question: Assume youre the average 25-ish y/o neckbeard playing eve in nullsec. How on earth can you allow yourself to be lead by a dude whos in the process of growing his first pubic hair? Do you guys have no dignity left?
\\Also confirming that I'm without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-t1miningfrig fcs out there. |
Richter Enderas
Kaesong Kosmonauts
Test Alliance Please Ignore
124
|
Posted - 2012.06.20 17:53:00 -
[144] - Quote
-A- is a garbage alliance filled with arrogant idiots, incompetent tryhards and washed-up ex Morsus Mihi morons striving for the good ol' days (where they got rich by knifing the kidneys of the person closest to them and fighting an endless struggle for relevancy) that will never come.
Their pets are no better.
They only hold the south because the space is literally so terrible that no one else can be bothered to take it. |
WarFireV
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
48
|
Posted - 2012.06.20 18:27:00 -
[145] - Quote
Richter Enderas wrote:-A- is a garbage alliance filled with arrogant idiots, incompetent tryhards and washed-up ex Morsus Mihi morons striving for the good ol' days (where they got rich by knifing the kidneys of the person closest to them and fighting an endless struggle for relevancy) that will never come.
Their pets are no better.
They only hold the south because the space is literally so terrible that no one else can be bothered to take it.
Yesss, let your tears flow young one.
|
Richter Enderas
Kaesong Kosmonauts
Test Alliance Please Ignore
125
|
Posted - 2012.06.20 20:39:00 -
[146] - Quote
Tears? I only stated facts.
You should re-read it for clarity and make a better post. |
Boris Lachenkov
Kaesong Kosmonauts
Test Alliance Please Ignore
39
|
Posted - 2012.06.20 20:47:00 -
[147] - Quote
Richter Enderas wrote:-A- is a garbage alliance filled with arrogant idiots, incompetent tryhards and washed-up ex Morsus Mihi morons striving for the good ol' days (where they got rich by knifing the kidneys of the person closest to them and fighting an endless struggle for relevancy) that will never come.
Their pets are no better.
They only hold the south because the space is literally so terrible that no one else can be bothered to take it.
Excellent post.
A++ would read again.
Would kindly remind everyone to check em'.
http://i.imgur.com/EbgQ3.jpg |
Jack Winters
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
6
|
Posted - 2012.06.22 00:33:00 -
[148] - Quote
this thread provides. THANK YOU |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
13
|
Posted - 2012.06.22 09:30:00 -
[149] - Quote
Jack Winters wrote:this thread provides. THANK YOU
no **** altho you guys are late to the party :P |
GrafO
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
3
|
Posted - 2012.06.22 10:57:00 -
[150] - Quote
Somebody say party? |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
332
|
Posted - 2012.06.23 13:32:00 -
[151] - Quote
Sounds like these thorn guys are pro drama carebear queens. Engarde used to be a sort of trial allaince for -A-. You have to earn your spot. Seems like you guys have proven in this topic to be frist class drama queens. No one rly wants those anyway,.. better fix that as a corp if you want to be somewhere in eve as a corp.
just my personal opinion
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Tector
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
65
|
Posted - 2012.06.25 00:10:00 -
[152] - Quote
Prop Wash wrote:Huh. It's a good thing that you posted here to tell us, because otherwise I'm not sure any of us would have figured out that AAA is a vaguely embarrassing shadow of its former self. Thanks for the heads-up :)
All the best,
Prop Wash
Heh, "vaguely." |
WarFireV
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
50
|
Posted - 2012.06.25 03:26:00 -
[153] - Quote
Everything will be ok.
We are just a ****, dead, shadow of are former selves alliance who scam people.
|
Takamura Muggins
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.06.26 01:16:00 -
[154] - Quote
Started laughing at "alphastarpilot" I'll let you know when I stop. |
Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
217
|
Posted - 2012.06.27 17:31:00 -
[155] - Quote
Akaria Cicero wrote:Lucian James wrote:[quote=Chaos Overdrive]
Alphastarpilot is without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-support FCs in game.. I have question: Assume youre the average 25-ish y/o neckbeard playing eve in nullsec. How on earth can you allow yourself to be lead by a dude whos in the process of growing his first pubic hair? Do you guys have no dignity left? \\Also confirming that I'm without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-t1miningfrig fcs out there.
Doesn't know who Lucian James is...wololol. get the **** out. |
Din'stalor Alaric
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
80
|
Posted - 2012.06.27 22:40:00 -
[156] - Quote
Alphastarpilot is by far the worst pilot i have ever known, but at least he undocks unlike the rest of the -A- ensemble in here who just market track and forum rage.
By the way, if you want to suck my balls, you may.
Lucian love best love
Elephant
Dinosaur
Table.
Solo 4 Life.1v1 always honored, flying without booster alt since Oct 2010.No ransoms honored even if offered :) |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
13
|
Posted - 2012.06.28 03:03:00 -
[157] - Quote
Din'stalor Alaric wrote:Alphastarpilot is by far the worst pilot i have ever known, but at least he undocks unlike the rest of the -A- ensemble in here who just market track and forum rage.
By the way, if you want to suck my balls, you may.
Lucian love best love
Elephant
Dinosaur
Table.
think you must have us confused with your ceo |
Makalu Zarya
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
51
|
Posted - 2012.06.29 08:16:00 -
[158] - Quote
Thorn guys...awesome topic...like I seriously enjoyed reading all that about myself.
As for accusations of this and that...you either like me or you hate me, and I frankly don't particularly care which one it is.
If you think I singled you out...or for what matter singled anyone out then you are just dumb ******* stupid. However considering that your idea of going out with a bang was bombing a blue fleet...I'm not surprised.
To all the elite fcs who commented on other people's fcing...hmm..funny...never heard of you...that's probably cause you never fced anything other than your own ass...try it and we'll see how you do.
over and out...let the trolling continue, I'll get more popcorn |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
111
|
Posted - 2012.06.29 09:27:00 -
[159] - Quote
No, we don't think you singled anyone out. We just think you're a giant **** with zero people skills and a massive sense of entitlement who consistantly whelps fleets because your tactics are terribad.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Jack Winters
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
7
|
Posted - 2012.06.29 11:11:00 -
[160] - Quote
Muul Udonii wrote:No, we don't think you singled anyone out. We just think you're a giant **** with zero people skills and a massive sense of entitlement who consistantly whelps fleets because your tactics are terribad.
Allow me ask you this: If he has no skills, how can he possibly have 17,000 kills and 2.8 trillion isk damage done + be ranked around 150th in game atm. If u can asnwer me this, i will join u again the mighty zarya
let me guess, ure trolling : -p
edit* and all that is just on one toon, not counting the others |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
111
|
Posted - 2012.07.01 13:15:00 -
[161] - Quote
You don't need people skills to press F1 17,000 times.
It also helps to have 50 fools follow you into battle to die in your name.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you have heard of us. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1142
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 04:13:00 -
[162] - Quote
Wishdokkta CEO wrote:Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf wrote:Quote:-A- FC > how about i blacklist your corp in about oh...90% of eve? I lolled.
Don't worry, the people in the "10%" of EVE they don't "control" are really friendly if you aren't like... like -A-
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
144
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 21:24:00 -
[163] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Wishdokkta CEO wrote:Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf wrote:Quote:-A- FC > how about i blacklist your corp in about oh...90% of eve? I lolled. Don't worry, the people in the "10%" of EVE they don't "control" are really friendly if you aren't like... like -A- I think BoB used to say similar things to their pets. Naughty.
Ironic as ******* coming from a CFC member. |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1222
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 21:29:00 -
[164] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Wishdokkta CEO wrote:Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf wrote:Quote:-A- FC > how about i blacklist your corp in about oh...90% of eve? I lolled. Don't worry, the people in the "10%" of EVE they don't "control" are really friendly if you aren't like... like -A- I think BoB used to say similar things to their pets. Naughty. Ironic as ******* coming from a CFC member.
how? |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1219
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 00:30:00 -
[165] - Quote
Makalu Zarya wrote:Thorn guys...awesome topic...like I seriously enjoyed reading all that about myself.
As for accusations of this and that...you either like me or you hate me, and I frankly don't particularly care which one it is.
If you think I singled you out...or for what matter singled anyone out then you are just dumb ******* stupid. However considering that your idea of going out with a bang was bombing a blue fleet...I'm not surprised.
To all the elite fcs who commented on other people's fcing...hmm..funny...never heard of you...that's probably cause you never fced anything other than your own ass...try it and we'll see how you do.
over and out...let the trolling continue, I'll get more popcorn
go undock some fleets about it
ahahahahaha you won't
a rogue goon |
Beachura
Helghan Empiral Armada
Apocalypse Now.
0
|
Posted - 2012.07.06 15:11:00 -
[166] - Quote
Quote: I don't pay to listen to some raging nerd with an overly inflated ego, a sense of entitlement, no sense of responsibility, and an utter lack of social skills screaming at me for doing exactly what he ordered. If I wanted to put up with that kind of treatment and pay for the privilege, I'd get married again.
Very well said. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
242
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:55:00 -
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Richter Enderas wrote:-A- is a garbage alliance filled with arrogant idiots, incompetent tryhards and washed-up ex Morsus Mihi morons striving for the good ol' days (where they got rich by knifing the kidneys of the person closest to them and fighting an endless struggle for relevancy) that will never come.
Their pets are no better.
They only hold the south because the space is literally so terrible that no one else can be bothered to take it.
Makalu Zarya wrote:
To all the elite fcs who commented on other people's fcing...hmm..funny...never heard of you...that's probably cause you never fced anything other than your own ass...try it and we'll see how you do.
over and out...let the trolling continue, I'll get more popcorn
"Yes it is as you say," DBRB replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the cyno sitting at the right hand of the undock and dropping on the heads of your fleet." |
Richter Enderas
Kaesong Kosmonauts
Test Alliance Please Ignore
142
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:03:00 -
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Makalu Zarya wrote:Thorn guys...awesome topic...like I seriously enjoyed reading all that about myself.
As for accusations of this and that...you either like me or you hate me, and I frankly don't particularly care which one it is.
If you think I singled you out...or for what matter singled anyone out then you are just dumb ******* stupid. However considering that your idea of going out with a bang was bombing a blue fleet...I'm not surprised.
To all the elite fcs who commented on other people's fcing...hmm..funny...never heard of you...that's probably cause you never fced anything other than your own ass...try it and we'll see how you do.
over and out...let the trolling continue, I'll get more popcorn
Tell us again about how your Loki doctrine is the ~*~ ultracounter ~*~ to Drakefleet.
Also you're as **** at FCing as your alliance is at being not ****.
(hint: that's pretty ****, if you didn't already know) |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
Exhale.
134
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Posted - 2012.07.09 13:50:00 -
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Always fun to read about how awful -A- are |
Kan'loch Lacoud
Love Squad
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
13
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Posted - 2012.07.09 19:00:00 -
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What. -A- is incredibly bad?
They have terrible space?
They bullshit people?
I had absolutely no idea whatsoever, especially not with what is happening in Delve. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
243
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Posted - 2012.07.09 23:43:00 -
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Really. I liken DBRB to jesus and take a quote referencing the second coming of Christ and everyone lets it go. |
Vasentic
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
3
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Posted - 2012.07.10 02:41:00 -
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Richter Enderas wrote:Tears? I only stated facts.
You should re-read it for clarity and make a better post.
A Testicle telling someone else to make a better post?
Oh sh!t that is rich.
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