Yo dude, nobody cares about your corp, chill.

All the best,
Prop Wash

And yet he [unironically] posts.

And yet he [unironically] posts.

Look dude, I was only trying to help you out. You were posting a whole lot of angry words about some uninteresting stuff and getting kind of worked up about it, so I tried to put things into perspective. Lashing out at me won't change that, so maybe you should just calm down. I hope we can talk again once you're ready to approach this rationally.

All the best,
Prop Wash

Look dude, I was only trying to help you out. You were posting a whole lot of angry words about some uninteresting stuff and getting kind of worked up about it, so I tried to put things into perspective. Lashing out at me won't change that, so maybe you should just calm down. I hope we can talk again once you're ready to approach this rationally.

All the best,
Prop Wash

Not surprisingly, En Garde are shedding members. They've lost 6 corps and 300+ people since we left (not including ourselves), albeit one of the corps (75 members) was brought into -A-. So much for En Garde not being a feeder alliance anymore. So to you guys who are all proud of being in En Garde and think you're great, you're not. You're in En Garde because you're "not good enough" to be in -A- proper. En Garde as an alliance will always be **** with low quality corps and players, because any corp that's worth anything will be brought into -A-, and any good FCs will be poached form their En Garde corps and brought into one of the main -A- corps. En Garde is equivalent of the settling pond of the sewage treatment plant.

And I laughed when I found out our friends had been offered the exact "deal" we'd been offered to join. Seems like -A- have a stockpile of snake oil they need to get rid of and are intent on trying to screw over old friends by pawning it off on them. What a great way to maintain long-standing relationships.

any one who ever said any thing about engard not being a "feeder" alliance (i dont like the term its more of a tryout/recrument alliance for -a- ) is completely wrong and delusional to that effect...

...i am sorry you are so crap you cant make isk on your own and think to just spong isk

That's how En Garde was sold to us, and again to our friends. just a couple of weeks back who got the same offer we did. We were all outright told that it was no longer going to be a feeder alliance and was meant to be developed into a real, credible force that can stand on its own rather than having to have -A- hold its hand every step of the way. And there was a thread to that very effect on the En Garde forum when we joined, so you may want to take a look before spouting what you obviously know nothing about.

And BTW, there are no isk issues here. The ability to make it in your useless space wasn't the issue. It's the issue we were outright lied to about what space we had access to in order to get us into the alliance, much like all other details.

Anyway, that must be some mighty fine tasting Kool Aid you guys are drinking. Just keep telling yourselves that it's all good and that you're not being farmed, used, scammed and lied to.

And of course, you're not renters either. You just pay a membership fee for your exclusive club.





Damn, I can't even type that last line without laughing my ass off.

havn't lost any one to -a-

Difference is; we actually have pilots worth poaching.

diffrence is they want to change corp

the 208m we(corp) pay a month is more than paid it self back from the replacement found, a alliance with out any real income gotta raise capital some how to pay for sov ****

as for the space being useless i disagree, moon poor maybe.

Real alliances don't need to charge a "membership fee". Renters do. You're renters who have even less rights to their space than AAAC renters do. I really wasn't aware until joining that there was a class of 0.0 alliance below that of renter. Now I know there is.

You can call yourselves whatever you want to make yourself feel better and try to inflate your ego a bit, but a turd by any other name is still a turd, no matter how much you polish it.



And any moons of value in "your" space belongs to -A-. You get nothing. As -A- bitches, you're given nothing of value. You're there as meatshield buffers when in your own space, and used as F1 monkeys to pad fleet numbers when on ops. Yes, you get replacements. That's the least -A- can do since without them, you wouldn't be able to afford to fleet up anyway. And without you, their fleet numbers would actually suck. The least they can do is give you partial reimbursements for some of their fleet doctrine.

But make no mistake. Whatever they "pay out" to you, they make back many times over at your expense selling you overpriced modules and replacement hulls in Catch and in your deployment areas. And they make stupidly high profits on this. And if you undercut their marketeers' prices on the market, you will draw their ire and wrath. Otherwise, much of -A- leadership and membership alike consider you a useless waste of space and treat you with complete disdain on a daily basis.

Enjoy being serfs, because that's what you are.

Serf (surf), Noun:

1. Vassal, peasant

2. A member of the lowest feudal class, bound to the land and subject to the will of its owner

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Alphastarpilot is without a doubt one of the top 5 anti-support FCs in game..

-A- is a garbage alliance filled with arrogant idiots, incompetent tryhards and washed-up ex Morsus Mihi morons striving for the good ol' days (where they got rich by knifing the kidneys of the person closest to them and fighting an endless struggle for relevancy) that will never come.

Their pets are no better.

They only hold the south because the space is literally so terrible that no one else can be bothered to take it.

-A- is a garbage alliance filled with arrogant idiots, incompetent tryhards and washed-up ex Morsus Mihi morons striving for the good ol' days (where they got rich by knifing the kidneys of the person closest to them and fighting an endless struggle for relevancy) that will never come.

Their pets are no better.

They only hold the south because the space is literally so terrible that no one else can be bothered to take it.

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