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evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.18 11:54:00 -
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So i see titans now selling at over 100 bill - some bidding 130bill for travel fit.
The base for these used tobe like 60 bill not long ago, and they have been nerfed sonce then... So how come they have shot up in price, i just dont get it. If they were rare now and was hard to build fine but they are not. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
Get Off My Lawn
108
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:02:00 -
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because mineral prices
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
3812
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:03:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So i see titans now selling at over 100 bill - some bidding 130bill for travel fit.
The base for these used tobe like 60 bill not long ago, and they have been nerfed sonce then... So how come they have shot up in price, i just dont get it. If they were rare now and was hard to build fine but they are not.
Yeah Rokhs have only gone up 100 mill I don't get why Titans should be so different
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evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:06:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:evereplicant wrote:So i see titans now selling at over 100 bill - some bidding 130bill for travel fit.
The base for these used tobe like 60 bill not long ago, and they have been nerfed sonce then... So how come they have shot up in price, i just dont get it. If they were rare now and was hard to build fine but they are not. Yeah Rokhs have only gone up 100 mill I don't get why Titans should be so different
Is there ANYTIME Mal you arent being sarcastic? Sorry i dont play eve to check mineral prices...
plus im sorry but a 40 bill price hike is massive you cant compare that to a 100mill hike to a rokh!
So ok why have mins prices risen so much then? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
3812
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:09:00 -
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Thanks, Obama.
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Salo Aldeland
Luma Operations
44
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:34:00 -
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Take one mass bot banning, two nerfs to gun mining, add a dash of Hulkageddon and viola! |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
Get Off My Lawn
108
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:43:00 -
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also no drone poo, jita embers, new expansion soon ect ect = prices are higher for everything
edit: and as titans have a lot of everything theyre more expensive
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Nulla Curas |
Yabba Addict
Legion of the Many
10
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Posted - 2012.05.18 14:07:00 -
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evereplicant wrote: im sorry but a 40 bill price hike is massive you cant compare that to a 100mill hike to a rokh!
Of course you can, if the mineral cost has nearly doubled. 100 mil plus on the rokh is almost double what it was before. It used to sell for around 120 mil IIRC, and now for 220 mil. Titans (I'm going by your numbers here, I don't bother checking titan prices) were around 60 bil, now around 100-130 bil. Again, double or thereabout. How can these figure be incomparable, given the almost identical rise in cost?
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Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian
Pinked
80
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Posted - 2012.05.18 14:07:00 -
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To build the damn thing you need half a moon's worth of materials, not even counting the modules, which are equally massive.
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
115
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Posted - 2012.05.18 19:19:00 -
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Does it matter?
They are alliance assets, no?
Alliances have unlimited (or near enough) ISK, no?
Now that they are where they should be price wise, it is time to get them to where they should be balance wise  |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
174
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Posted - 2012.05.18 19:42:00 -
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With a decrease in bot mining, there is a shortage of materials. Shortage of materials = more expensive materials. More expensive materials = more expensive ships
On the other hand, with a decrease in RMT isk being bought, that should lower the buying power of people that were using RMT so that should have driven demand down. Lower demand = lower prices
What I think is happening is people are just sitting on their Titans instead of lowering their cost. People that can afford to build Titans probably have enough ISK that they can wait it out for a bit. Or RMT use has not been impacted very much or RMT use was never a big deal when it came to buying Titans.
Would love to see some numbers on how many Titans were sold over the last few months
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
174
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Posted - 2012.05.18 19:46:00 -
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Incursions also got nerfed so that is another instance of reduced ISK. Then you have Hulkadeddon.
Like a perfect storm is hitting the ISK area all at once these days
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Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2012.05.18 19:47:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:Malcanis wrote:evereplicant wrote:So i see titans now selling at over 100 bill - some bidding 130bill for travel fit.
The base for these used tobe like 60 bill not long ago, and they have been nerfed sonce then... So how come they have shot up in price, i just dont get it. If they were rare now and was hard to build fine but they are not. Yeah Rokhs have only gone up 100 mill I don't get why Titans should be so different Is there ANYTIME Mal you arent being sarcastic? Sorry i dont play eve to check mineral prices... plus im sorry but a 40 bill price hike is massive you cant compare that to a 100mill hike to a rokh! So ok why have mins prices risen so much then?
There is no possible way anyone could be this stupid.
0/10, too obvious. |
Death Toll007
Fleet of Doom
Psychotic Tendencies.
54
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Posted - 2012.05.18 21:00:00 -
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Eve players... we bring you INCARNA!!!!
Wait... you don't care about walking in a station where you cannot pew?!?! We had no idea... we promise to make it up to you and focus on internet space ships....
Eve players... we bring you RMT killing at the same time Goons are Conducting HULKAGEDDON, the Drone regions are redone to get rid of poo, and introduce a new dynamic improving liklihood of killing stuff in PvP...
Wait... you mean this will tank the eve economy?!?!?!? We had no idea... we promise to make it up to you and balance the ships you can now afford (Frigates).
LOLZ
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Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal
Terran Commonwealth
122
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Posted - 2012.05.18 21:45:00 -
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Still way too cheap imho. |
Sup B1tches
Quovis
CORE Alliance
26
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:31:00 -
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"This is EVE, where you MUST do boring **** like mine for 14 months straight before building your titan!" |
Noisrevbus
123
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:33:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:Malcanis wrote:evereplicant wrote:So i see titans now selling at over 100 bill - some bidding 130bill for travel fit.
The base for these used tobe like 60 bill not long ago, and they have been nerfed sonce then... So how come they have shot up in price, i just dont get it. If they were rare now and was hard to build fine but they are not. Yeah Rokhs have only gone up 100 mill I don't get why Titans should be so different Is there ANYTIME Mal you arent being sarcastic? Sorry i dont play eve to check mineral prices... plus im sorry but a 40 bill price hike is massive you cant compare that to a 100mill hike to a rokh! So ok why have mins prices risen so much then?
I'm not sure if you've earnt it with your attitude, but i'll play nice.
Let's assume mineral prices have doubled, then everything get twice as expensive; so yes, the hikes compare.
Prices have risen because the Drone Regions had their loot tables redistributed from mineral drops to standard bounty-loot. Too many bots were farming the minerals to bottom-line tech one production, especially on high-quantity things like capitals. With these changes CCP aim to make mining worthwhile again, but prices will be very steep until the community adjust, since very few people have been doing any traditional mining lately. Pirebears have been running incursions and Nullbears have been running on the fumes of tech one production to mass cost-efficiency. |
Pink Marshmellow
Caucasian Culture Club
Narwhals Ate My Duck
27
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Posted - 2012.05.19 05:06:00 -
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The factors mentioned Plus Speculation has caused mineral prices to skyrocket.
The prices will stay high for a while until inferno is release, then it will slowly go back down. That is my prediction. Enjoy your 250 million abaddons and T2 Cruisers.
I will go fly commandships now. |
Salo Aldeland
Luma Operations
47
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Posted - 2012.05.19 14:04:00 -
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Sup B1tches wrote:"This is EVE, where you MUST do boring **** like mine for 14 months straight before building your titan!"
No, this is EvE. Where you pay a bunch of chumps to do boring **** like mine all month for your titan. Titans belong to the 1%. You think the 1% goes out and shoots rocks? |
Kasutra
Tailor Company
36
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Posted - 2012.05.19 16:53:00 -
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Sup B1tches wrote:"This is EVE, where you MUST do boring **** like mine for 14 months straight before building your titan!"
Confirming that boring **** like mining is the only way to earn isk in EVE. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
3841
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:00:00 -
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Sup B1tches wrote:"This is EVE, where you MUST do boring **** like mine for 14 months straight before building your titan!"
Confirming that Titans are meant to be a solo project
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6909
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:12:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Sup B1tches wrote:"This is EVE, where you MUST do boring **** like mine for 14 months straight before building your titan!" Confirming that Titans are meant to be a solo project To be fair, that would be a rather fun project just for the sheer size of itGǪ
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Rond Dorlezahn
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
19
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:32:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:Malcanis wrote:evereplicant wrote:So i see titans now selling at over 100 bill - some bidding 130bill for travel fit.
The base for these used tobe like 60 bill not long ago, and they have been nerfed sonce then... So how come they have shot up in price, i just dont get it. If they were rare now and was hard to build fine but they are not. Yeah Rokhs have only gone up 100 mill I don't get why Titans should be so different Is there ANYTIME Mal you arent being sarcastic? Sorry i dont play eve to check mineral prices... plus im sorry but a 40 bill price hike is massive you cant compare that to a 100mill hike to a rokh! So ok why have mins prices risen so much then?
Proportionately, you can totally compare them. AFAIK, a 100m increase for Rokhs is a greater % increase than a 40 bil hike is for a Titan.And if you don't want to know about mineral prices, then you really aren't gonna like most of the answers to your question, because the answer is "mineral prices". |
Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric
The Polaris Syndicate
124
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Posted - 2012.05.19 18:51:00 -
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price from jitonomic total:
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TitleGǻGǻGǻGǻ QuantityGǻGǻGǻGǻGǻ PriceGǻGǻGǻGǻ Price for allGǻGǻGǻGǻGǻ
Tritanium3 424 277 918 6.12GǻISKGǻ20 956 580 858GǻISK
PyeriteGǻGǻ 830 144 346GǻGǻ 7.54GǻISKGǻ 6 259 288 369GǻISKGǻ
MexallonGǻ283 777 449GǻGǻ53.31GǻISK15 128 175 806GǻISK
IsogenGǻGǻGǻ 50 168 210GǻGǻGǻ 83.52GǻISK 4 190 048 899GǻISKGǻ
NocxiumGǻGǻ14 038 545GǻGǻGǻ 780GǻISKGǻGǻ10 950 205 485GǻISK
ZydrineGǻGǻ 2 512 489GǻGǻGǻGǻ 1 285GǻISK 3 228 573 490GǻISKGǻ
MegacyteGǻ1 248 752GǻGǻGǻGǻ 2 655GǻISK 3 314 899 597GǻISKGǻ
In total: 64 027 772 504 ISK / 46 061 677 M3
Now you might imagine how long it takes to haul and mine 3,5bil tritanium. 
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Drakarin
Omnitech Corporation
Wonder Kids
6
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Posted - 2012.05.20 08:19:00 -
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Supply & Demand.
This is applicable to the cost of the minerals required to build the ship, too, of course. In fact, it's the key.
The cost of resources to build a Titan has increased, because of Hulkaggedon, changes to drone loot and a few other factors. So, people still want to make them, but they want to make them for a profit. Thus, the base established price increases in order to earn the same profit that they were prior to this increase in mineral costs.
Next, you have the supply and demand ratio of the ship themselves, the demand is likely a bit lower now because they are being nerfed, however; less are being made because of fewer resources so the supply is lower too.
Voila, prices increase. It's not about greed or magic, but rudimentary economics.
Malcanis wrote:Sup B1tches wrote:"This is EVE, where you MUST do boring **** like mine for 14 months straight before building your titan!" Confirming that Titans are meant to be a solo project
My current long-term (2 year) project is to solo build and fly a carrier. While it's a far cry from an actual Titan or Dreadnought, it's still not exactly meant to be used like that. Nonetheless, that's fun. Play the game as you want.
I wonder how long I'll last solo in a carrier. Hopefully more than a day, lol. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
445
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:31:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:Incursions also got nerfed so that is another instance of reduced ISK. Then you have Hulkadeddon.
Like a perfect storm is hitting the ISK area all at once these days
Hulkageddon doesn't seem to have had an substantial influence in mineral prices yet (unless they are supposed to be dropping as hard as the high-ends, but I doubt that). CCP Diagoras' numbers show that the amount of trit/account in EVE is steadily declining, but there must be such an abundance of it on the market and in stockpiles, that the prices remain the same.
Only pyerite is now slowly rising. Perhaps that's Hulkageddon, but it's too little to notice in the prices on the ship market.
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